First, I observe

IN his Title-page he boasts, of his Mr. Talbot's appointing time & place of meeting our Friends, to prove the charg­es in the Bom [...] against us; but he tells not, that that per­emptory challenge was soon answered by us in one half-sheet, called False News from Gath &c. to which I further add, that according to the Prover [...] what is spoken may easily be mis­rendred or forgotten; witness that very little discource P: Fretwel [...] had with Elizabeth [...]enton in the presence of M: Wheat at Burling­ton; the one solemnly denies what was there alledged by D: L: in his Almanack 1705. to be said about E: Fentons being Sprinkled, The other offers to Swear the contrary. See Mystery of Fox Craft page 15. But that which is published in print begun here and continued by them) will speak for it self tho' it be never so much [...]is rendred in print or otherwise. And how easily might that great falshood of D: L's have passed current among many people; (viz. that he had proved all the charges against us in the Bomb) if we had had only a verbal dispute for it; seeing he sticks not, confidently to affirm in the front of this his works; that he hath in this his book so proved them notwithstanding our prints on both sides compar'd makes it obviously appear; that he hath [...]o so much as touch'd upon two thirds of them; so that I say, how currant might this fa [...]shood have passed among people and how uncapable should we have been, so undeniably and satisfact­orily to have detected him if bar [...] and verbal say so [...]s after a dis­pute had been all we had had to have disproved him by.

I come now [...] 2, [...] and 4 pages and as [...]o his many and mostly often answered quotations there brought and attested to, [Page 2] by his eight pious and learned men (most of whom call them­selves M [...]sionaries I observe [...]st tha [...] tho' they say, they ex­actly agree with the books & [...] [...] yet it ap [...]rs otherwise and tho' they seem to have squeezed them as c [...]se to our [...]nds words, and to answer their ends too, as they could possibly do, yet they have not escaped [...] their fingers by [...] cabbling [...] dirty m [...]re. For W: Penn doth not deny as they her [...] [ Ser [...]ns A­pol pa: 146] [...]stify (to w [...]) That Jesus Christ that suffered was properly the Son of God. Those words Jesus Christ in the C [...]h­e [...]s bring their false additions to what W: P: said; and this [...]h [...]y do no [...]withstanding W: P: [...]xpr [...]sly saith in the next t [...]r [...]g words that he that laid down his Life and suffered his body to be Crucified by the Jews without the Gates of Jerusalem is C [...]r [...] the only Son of the most high God. These are his very words. How then dare they bring him in to deny Jesus Christ ha [...] suffered▪ to be properly the Son of God: since in that very place he calls h [...]m the Only Son of the most high God: And by the words outward Per [...]on it's as clear from his following words, he meant only of his body saying (as proof that the outward person that suffer­ed was not properly the Son of God A body hat [...] thou prepared me sa [...]d the Son Then said W: P. The Son was not the body tho' the body was the Son's. Now if that body tha [...] died was properly the entire Son of God how is then the Son of God of an eternal g [...]neratio [...]? And doth [...]ot the Apostle thus distinguish w [...]ere he saith he was made of the seed of David after the flesh: but was declared to be the Son of God according to the Spirit of holine [...]s, &c: Rom. 1. 3 4 which is sure [...]y more then what is [...]ward or i [...] ­able. In short their adding those words [Jesus Christ] to W: P's words renders the Quotation not exact [...]y to agree either with W: P's words or sense.

2dly Observe. These Eight Men [...]use W Pe [...]n in saying. That in page 20 and 21 of Sandy [...]oundation he denies that Christ [Page 3] hath made satisfaction for the Sin of man. For, first W: P: denied not that Christ ma [...] satisfaction in a Scriptural sense, which is, that God out of his [...]te love was so well pleased with what Christ did when he suffered for our Sins as that he accepted of it as a prop [...]ions and most satisfactory Sacrifice on our behalf, B [...] [...]h [...] Doctrine which W: P: opposed was, that God could not save us but by Christ suffering [...] wrath and vengeance in the nature of a a [...]str [...]ct rig [...]d and full payment of a debt for our sins, rendring thereby▪ as if God did not for Christ's sake freely forgive us. And if this be to deny Christ to have made satis­faction for our sins in any sense, then themselves deny it; for Dr: Stilling [...]fleet then Chaplain in Ordinary to King Charles the second, (since Bishop of Worcester) preaching in favour of our Principle in this respect plainly saith: Our Adversaries (meaning the Presbyterians managed that Controversy with more zeal than judgment and saith he; none need think themselves obliged to main­tain, that Christ paid a proper and rigid satisfaction for the Sins of [...]en considered under the notion of debts and that he paid the very same that we ought to have done which saith he) in the sense of the Law is never called satisfaction but strict payment. Note here the said [...] distinguishes, just as W: P: did, betwixt strict payment and satisfaction. Again (saith he) Above all things 'tis impossible to reconcile the fr [...]ness of remission with full payment. And again, It's impossible the same debt should be fully paid and forgiven. See his dis [...] of Christ's sufferings page 269 270. 272. cited in Di­vinity of Christ by Geo: Whitehead pag 85 86 87.

Now how doth it behove D: L: and his learned A vo [...]chers well to consider how the Church of England agrees with W: P: In this matter in saying, It's impossible the same deb [...] should be fully paid and yet forgiven. An [...] how they as well as W: P: distinguish betwixt satisfaction and str [...]ct payment; opposing the latter, but not the former. So saith W: P: in the same book Not [Page 4] (saith he) ‘that we deny but really confess that Jesus Christ, in life doctrine, and death fulfilled his fathers will, and offered up a most satisfactory Sacrifice; but not to pay God, as being o­therwise unable to save men. see page 32. More I could men­tion of their unfair q [...]otations but my design is brevity.’

3dly. Observe That tho' these eight men [...]ty that D: L's quotations exactly agree with our friends book yet they say not a word that they are cited full enough to shew the Authors sense, when compared with the contex and subject matter, as impartial me [...] would do. To instance one, to render Geo: Fox, from Great Mystery pag [...] 246, as a contemner of the Holy Scripture, wherein to abuse that good man and entire lover o [...] the Holy Scriptures. They cite him calling it blasphemy to affirm the Scrip­ture to be the word of God; but as his reason is m [...]re rendred, (to witt) because the Scriptures themselves give tha [...] title to Christ, but G: F: there calls the Scriptures expressly the Scriptures of Truth, & God's words [Marktha] [...]herefore had G: F: been quoted full enough to have sh [...]wn his sense, which in justice they ought to have done (& one line more would have done it) it would have [...]iearl shewn that G: F: was no contemner of the Holy Scriptures.

4thly Observe. Notwithstanding this, these eight M [...]n seem to be wise enough [...]o steer so clear as not to testify that D: L's quo­tations prove all or any of the charges in the Bomb as it [...]s title­page he seems to intimate; no I verily think especially for one of them tho' he hath done too much yet would never be brought to be guilty of so much extravagan [...]y.

5thly Observe. That tho' in Bomb Search'd, from page 14 to [...]9 I produced near twenty false particular and g [...]oss charge a­gainst us out of the said Bomb of all which, tho' D: L: hath not [...] upon above five or six of them ver [...] he very impudently (for [...] but right so to call [...]e) aff [...]ms he hath proved them all. be­hold therefore now far this man is gone, which [...] inspious and lear [...]ed ment [...] countenance

[Page 5] 6thly Observe. That of the said near twenty black charges [...] ­g [...] us the late Bomb ha [...] quo [...]ed, for proof [...]ut o [...] our book [...] bu [...] [...]or two of them and that in four places only; which not­withstanding is four too many because they are every one false; there being no such words as the Bomb alledges in any one of the sat [...] places cited by him For which abuse, in Bomb Search'd pa: .4 and .8 I particularly complained against him y [...] D: L: hath not in the least assayed to prove so much as one of these cit­ed charges to be true, and says he hath proved them a [...]l.

7thly Observe. As to the business page 5 about infallible dis­cerning let them b [...] look into pag 15 or the Three N [...] fo [...]k Rect­ors book called The Principle &c: they may see [...] that as [...] Doctrines whether they be false teachers or true 'tes evident we may certainly know whether they be false teachers or true else why are we comminded say they to try Spirits which shews they may be d [...]s­cerned of what sort they are tho' Satan does never [...]o mu [...]h transform himself into an Angel of Light &c: Now what difference is there betwix [...]ertainty and Infallibility a [...]ing they so much reproach us about? And indeed if Christ's Disciples are wholly d [...]ti [...]u [...]e of having an Infallible discerning to wa [...]t purpose then do these men (who to besure esteem themselves such print against us, as they do, since then for any thing they know whatever they presume to say we may be the sound and they the unsound Christians; and that, what they say to the contrary, would be at best bu [...] Co [...]ctural.

8thly Observe. How confidently D. L: commends the Author of [...] Snake which tho I have proved in an Almanack 1705 & 1706 under the hands of fou r [...]able perso [...] [...] England; (nor Quakers besides wha [...] G [...]o Whitehead. and Jo: V [...]eth have proved otherwise abundantly against him for a grievous false Scriber [...] which D: L: hath made no answer yet continues and imposes his Commendations as he doth abundantly in o­ther [Page 6] matters, as if whatever we make appear to the contrary, thinks he must be believed, tho' without [...] against us.

9thly. Observe. pa: 5. I did not say as D: L: alledges, that Francis Bugg, sold his Estate to pay his Debts, but rather that he had sold his Estate to his Son, part of which he had before obliged himself [...]o mak [...] his Wife a jointure of; & that at the very time he promised to g [...]v [...] three hundred pounds with his Daugh­ter, he was several hundred pounds in debt, more than he wa [...] worth: And that when he was told of his belying us in his books, he (scoffingly) answeied, his pen would run too quick sometim [...]; owning and making light of his writing lies against us, but to this D: L: is silent.

10thly. Observe. Ibid, Geo: Whitehead does not argue in pa: 55. of Light and Life, that the blood outwardly shed, was not the blood or life of Christ: and it was the Baptist, not G: W: that said that blood was not in being; neither did G: W: render him a dead Christ but only told the Baptist, he was such from his own Argument: And I do not see, that G: W; there defends S: E: but explains, his meaning; but for himself, he says, he does not make S: E's Expressions an Article of our Faith; especially as construed by the then Adversaries and plainly saith, that in one sense he owns the blood shed, to be more than the blood of an­other Saint, nay, he mentions, how in several respect it is so, tho' not as to the matter of it as to the visible; being expressly according to Scripture, the same we partake of see Hebrews 14. However, as I shewed before, G: W: in his Antidote expresly di [...] ­owns S: E's Expressions; but now behold Candid Reader does it appear by my saying, and truly that G: W: does there disown the Comparison about the blood of Christ? Admit he had said in his Light and Life about thirty years before, as D: L: renders him that therefore I must needs (whether I had as I did not) remembred any such thing or not) be a Lyar, a Jesuitical meaner, [Page 7] a Deceiver of the unwary a Betrayer of the Ignorant; and what not as he [...], this very matter renders me, b [...]des crying [...] this is Quaker sincerity, and the like upon such like occasions. For such like reasons, and after this must uncharitable manner, hath he deal [...] with me from time to time which unreasonable treat­ment I desire patiently to bear from him. And his ramble in page 6, about Christopher Atkins, the time of his being disowned, we have only his [...]are word; and I never said, he was disowned for Doctrine, yet the Doctrine, when understood was and is dis­owned as unsound; but what is all this to W [...] B's saying, The Apostles did not preach a visible Christ &c: as his-opposere did, for they preach him a visible man with flesh and bone &: denying him as W: B: there saith, to be the word: whereas the Apostle preached besides his being visibly ascended into heaven, that he was the word in the heart &c: therefore did not preach him as they did.

11thly. Observe, pa: 6 That, tho' one of the black charges or the Bomb against us was as he there most untruly saith, for cal­ling the Scripture Beastly ware; and Idol yet now he hath not the books to prove them by, and yet saith, he hath proved them all. Note a Lyar oft shews himself so for want of memory. And I have answered him several times particularly page 7 of Bomb Searc'd; about his accusing G: F: and wronging his Opponents books. Of which Answer like himself, he takes no notice but vaunts that w [...] have not offered to disprove him th [...] we have often told him, among many other things in answer, that we have not those Opponents books. And he in this very place says that he cannot disprove what G: F: says of some Priests calling the Letter of the Scripture God &c: because he hath not quoted the book. Now pra [...] what difference is there in this case be [...]w [...]x [...] books not being q [...]o [...]d and nor having the books quoted? And as I did there mention, so I could mention more [Page 8] of G. F's Opposers that di [...] a [...]wered d [...]fy the Scripture, cal­ling [...] the Object of Fa [...]th &. [...] Great My [...]tery pa. [...]6. A [...] ha [...] we [...] [...] ha [...] e book G: F: here [...] may be some typographica [...] [...]its or otherwise [...]; yet, I am perswaded we might manifest so much of the [...]rook [...]d and dark excretions of some national Priest's of those [...] their op­p [...]sing the [...]es break [...]g forth of the G [...] [...]ga and Truth that would the more evidently excuse G: F: in [...]s Ans­wers to them.

12thly. H [...]s pa: 8 Observe Seeing according to John's Testi­mony of Christ that Christ was a man [M [...]ck a man] preferred be­fore him and was before him This could not b [...] as [...] was born of a woman; for as such John was before Christ: And seeing the Scripture no where saith tha [...] Christ came down from heaven, and become man but saith expr [...]st, it was the son of man that came down from Heaven John 3 13. Therefore [...] no fundamentall Error in T: Ellwood of others to say Christ was man before he was [...] a woman; and surely 'tis as man that he is our Me­diator: And was he not the Churches Mediator before he was born of a woman? And as God he is not our Mediator, for his Medi­ation is between God and u [...] And I have search'd the four pag­es [...] by him [...] G: F's Great Mystery and [...]ho' there are some extentions for to safely guarded for so fully explained as co [...]d have been wish'd he keeping close to the intent of a [...]s opposers d [...]nying Christ to be within us yet there is not those words [the Light w [...]ther] as he talks if mentioned in any of the same pages: And for a [...] his taun [...]g army answer about Christ without &: had they been but [...]ontented to have q [...]eried accord­ing to the sense of Scripture o wi [...] whether we believed in and expected to be saved by Christ who is as t [...]h [...] personal w [...]e [...]rance in heaven without us but as to his Spiritual appearance he is us He might soon have had an answer directly in the ad [...]mitive; [...] [Page 9] that's soun [...] and Scriptural▪ implying only one and the same Lord Jesus Christ, who, tho' he be ascended into heaven, yet also according to his promise, he is and will be with his, to the end of the world.

In his pa: 9. As to our keeping Christ Commandments; we de­sire to learn keep and practice them; bur not so much to boast [...]or it, as he Pharisee-like, seems to do, by his thus accusing us of the contrary who yet, by his continued abuses to us shews that he is far short of keeping that one plain and great Command­ment of doing to others, as himself would be done by. And as to W: Penn's asking, what is Christ as to his [...]o [...]y qualifica­tions, as he, in the same page expresses it) but Meekness Justice &: he does not say thereby, as he renders him, that Christ is nothing but moral virtues.

As to the need, he talks of; of preaching Christ Crucified tho', according to the Ancients those (tho' called moral heathen that lived according to the word, are not to be excluded from all share in Christianity, yet contrary to D: L's suggestions to wi [...]) [ hat then there was no need, that the holy Apostles should preach Christ Crucified and Salvation by him] there was [...] need of it. First because Christ the Lord commanded it. [...]dly Becuse the accepted time was then come, wherein the middle will of p [...]rtition betwixt J [...]w and Gentile was to be preach'd as broken down so as that the Gentiles, who before (as to the Jewish and Legal Covenant at least) were farr off were now made nigh by the blood of Christ; and that all, thro' him, might have access by one Spirit unto the Fath­er: And all were to honour the Son, as they honoured the Father, see Ephes: [...]. John 5 23. Notwithstanding all which, it follows not but that according to Scripture Cornelius and all others, who feared God, and w [...]k'd righteousness, were accepted of him, even before they had the opportunity of knowing that Christ was Crucified, see Acts 10.31, 34, 35. but yet it's in Christ the belov­ed [Page 10] who was Crucified, and gave himself a ransom for all that that the acceptance was and is; so there was need of Christ's be­ing Crucified, for the Lord laid the iniquity of us all upon him, and by whose stripes it was we are healed; so that his coming was more than a figure. And tho' D: L: imposes, yet he name [...] no book of ours to the contrary. And G: W: does not call what I said of Christ's outward appearance and presence &c: nonsence, as he falsly saith; for as he cites not G: W's words fairly, so, if he had, it would have shewn that the non-sence was not said to be so in it self, but from the Baptist's own way of arguing; and yet upon this tho' falsly laid upon G: W: I must it seems▪ be termed for it a Dissembler, and making it my whole business to deceive, and what not: because I declar'd my belief of Christ with­out &c:

13. In his pa: 10 Observe D: L: speaking of W: P's book, San­dy foundation, says the Quakers keep it now up in England for fear if the Law and outward powers but poor than, where are his wits now, (as in page, he tells me of as if the Quakers were a­fraid the book which was writ near forty years ago, or them­selves, either should be punished by the Law and outward powers; whereas the Author, who hath been mostly in England from that time to this, and of publick note, both in City, Court & Count­rey was never brought by those powers to any trial about it. As for the rest of this page, about Christ's Satisfaction tho' he hath placed the Paragraphs, as if they were successively so in W: P's book yet there are several, that should have come in botween, left out; so shall say no more of it here, but to acquaint the read­er that it is so.

14. His page 11 Observe. Here he owns he hath added the word [Debt] to N: P's words, but that which is still his great [...] he justifies the [...]o [...]ng of it and says, it's more plain to [...] capacities; his reason for it is seems is, for that [...]'s s [...]o [...]ing [Page 11] else but the debt of our Sins, that W: P: there treats on; as i [...] W: P's treating of nothing else but the debt of our Sins, must needs make him by those words [his own] [...]ean the debt of Christ's own Sins. What is this but insipid So [...]ishness? And W: P: did not there say that Christ did, or did not pay any thing, but admitting there was such strict payment made as aforesaid, which Dr: Stilling [...]fleet as well as W: P: denyed he did, that then how­ever, it must not have been another but with what was his own, that he had paid it. And indeed i [...] was his own life, that he ransom'd us with. Matth: 20. 28. and which was a Sacrifice Satisfactory to the Father) but not a word of paying his own debt; but on the contrary in the very same page, W: P: in ex­press words saith, there was nothing due from Christ; ther [...]fore for this great abuse, I say again, D: L: ought in justice to make satisfaction.

And as D: L: himself does not quote Richard Hubberthor [...] to call Christ a Sinner; so, in one sense, God himself is capable of re­pentance; for he repented that he had made man &c: Gen: 6 6. He also repented of the evil he had said he would do unto N [...] ­ne [...]ch and did it not. Jona [...] 3 10.

And Observe D: L's wrangling here, about the term [finite] is grounded upon a mistake about words if his friend G: K: who doubtless knows words as well as himself can have any credit with him for whereas D: L: reckons, that if Christ as man, be [...]nite then impotent G: K: owns the first, but terms the last very unwarrantably, if not blasphemous; so here's D: L's vaunting consequence about it at an end. But observe, this leads me to take notice, that for all G: K: and D: L's great noise of being so found in their appearing aginst us, about the man Christ with­out us, the watch men upon the walls and the like; yet by their writings, when compared, I cannot see whether they own that Christ, as man, is in being, or not; for D: L: in his Trum­pet, [Page 12] page 37, concludes that if Christ [...]s m [...]n be fi [...]ite, then Christ as [...], is come to an End: but G: K in pa: 5 [...]: o [...] Railing Shi­me [...] says Christ as man, is finite, therefore according to G: K and D: L: compared together Christ as man is come to an End.

Again, in page to of The Rebuker &c: D: L: says, It's b [...]j [...]ond his capacity to determine whether Christ as m [...]n, be finite and impotent. So that again, both being compared, it seems to be beyond his capacity to determine, whether Christ as man, become to an end, or not. Again, in page 38 of his Trumpet, he says, W: P: blasphemoussly calls the man Christ the finite and impotent creature. But in the above page 10 he says he dare not call it blasphemous to say Christ is finite and impotent. Be­hold Reader how this Church-Champion contends [...]or the Church-faith. A Monstrous, but just, confusion upon him.

And as for his windy and shameless boast as that he could not bring me to answer the challenge, of leaving the matter to the judgment of four or six indifferent men, to try whether W: P: in Sandy Foundation called the man Christ the finite impotent creat­ure, as he alledged he did and as I did, and, upon Truth's bottom, still do deny. I say, that he could never bring me to this as he says, is an untrue, shameless and vain boast; he knows I took him up and signified the same in a Letter sent him by a person sent on purpose to his house, as farr as Egg-harbour telling him, therein, that I was ready to meet him within ten days from the date thereof; but which day of the ten or whether at Philadel­phia or Burlington, I wholly left to himself to appoint; but he answered me in a Letter by the same bearer with most fiivolous, quibbling and evading excuses, As that he lived not then at Della­war [...], and that he would have som [...] ground to believe I meant what I writ to him; and next that he would be secured in person insinuat­ing we design'd to kidnap him Now how idle is all this for [...]s he made no such conditions in his challenge, so, had no [...] I as far [Page 13] to send, as he had to come: and had not I as much ground to suspect, that he meant what he writ, as also that I might be kid­nap'd; and therefore would be secured in person, as he had to [...]spect such things of me. But see a further answer to this and his other, as idle, Almanack challenge, in D: L: Justly Rebuked, for abusing W: P: &c: from page 13 to pa: 17. And it's well it's in print, because notwithstanding what they may now alledge, it will speak for it self without being so subject to misrepresen­tation, as since by experience we know verbal discourses, with them, are liable to.

Ob [...]erve, in his pa. 12. Because D: L: says, I added the word [Christianity] [...]o W: P's words, in pa: 6 of Quakerism a New Nick­name &c: I shall therefore cite the words as they stand in the Errata. In the book it's together thus, ‘The distinction betwixt moral and Christian the making holy life legal, and faith in the history of Christ's outward manifestation. Christianity has been a deadly poyson these latter ag [...]s have been infected with, to the distruction of the godly living &c:’ Now I leaving in the word [Christianity] as I found it save that I placed the word [manifestation] next the word [outward] to make it better sense and saying it was so corrected in the Errata, hath made D: L: make this noise about it▪ but whether it be so or not, let the Reader judge; for the Errata stands thus. pa: 6. line 32 for Outward Christianity, read Outward manifestotion

Now here we see by the Errata the word [manifestation] i [...] placed by W: P: next the word [outward] [...]s I said; and it being W: P's method in the same table of Errata where he would have a word or words left out, he directed (except where 'twas neces­sary to put in other words, besides what was in before, in the room of them) still to blot them out; but W: P: gave no direc­tions to blot out the word [Christianity] [...]ho' had he there would not have needed any other word than what was in before: there­fore [Page 14] it's rational to conclude that as he did not direct so he would not have the word [Christianity] blotted out; besides, who is it that knows W: P: that do [...]s not know him to be a man of a better sense, than to esteem it deadly poyson to believe the History of Christ's outward manifestation? especially considering in the very same page W: P: owns, and stands for this to be Christianity, in these express words, (viz.) speaking of Christ's outward appearance, he saith, ‘A firm belief in him that so ap­peared lived, died, role and ascended as testified of in the Scriptures of Truth, [Mark, here say I is the historical know­ledge owned] but more especially, as he breaks in upon the Soul, by his divine discoveries, as the true light enlightening every man:’ This I call Christianity, Here we see, W: P: in the very same page, shews plainly, that he is far from calling it a dead­ly poyson, to believe the Hi [...]tory of Christ's outward manifes­tation: No, it was, as G: W: said, the making faith in the his­tory, in opposition to his power and work in the soul, and to godly living, which they would have had to be the Christianity necessary. And tho' G: W: and I do not parrot and D: L: like) use just the very same words yet the sense is the same, however, here it appears by his own confession, that I do not coppy exact­ly after the London Quakers, but dare venture further than they have done to my hands, contrary to his most false assertion be­fore in his last. And now, as I know not that I have any satis­faction to make on the above account, so I must again call upon him▪ to make satisfaction for saying that W: P: called faith in Christ's outward manifestation, a deadly poyson

From his page 13. observe, How doth G: F: any more than the Assembly of Divines, say, God is equal with God as D: L: talks of? Do not they say. That the Holy Ghost is equal in power and Glory with the Father? And might not D: L: with the like reason, construe the words of John in the same sense, who saith [Page 15] the Word was with God and the Word was God: And there is [...] the [...]am [...] reason [...]or us to leave out the words [As he is [...]] as [...] of as there is reason to leave out [...]he words [He [...] hath] The one being express Scripture words, the other [...] contrary to G: F's declared sense in the same page, and in page 5 [...] same book, as before I sh [...]wed, of which he takes no notice.

Again Observe Is it not strange, these Church people should thus taunt at us about perfection? as D: L: here doth ca [...]ing it the Quakers fond Imagination of a sinless perfection; for [...]s the substance of what we hold in that respect is but according to Scripture, to witt. That all men should so strive, and by the help of God (whose Grace hath appeared to all men attaining to a being w [...]e free from Sin; become Servants of Righteousness, having fruits of holiness that the end may be everlasting Life. Rom 6. 22. 23. Agreeable to which is that great conditional [...] ­ept to witt. Depar [...] from Evil and do good and dwell for evermore, Psalms 37. 27. and is not this agreeable to what themselves profess for to be free from Sin, and to depart from Evil, is but to renounce the Devil, and all his works: Again, to do good, and become Servants of God, is to keep God's holy will and [...]om­mandments. All which, they of the Church of England's profes­sion, not only promise to do but acknowledge they are bound to do and perform it: And a greater degree of perfection I never understood the Quakers ever professed to be necessary, in order to eternal life and happiness. But by their thus taunting a [...] his doctrine it seems as if they were building up those things which formerly they professed they were bound to renounce.

As for Josiah Coals business, it hath been largely answered by me several times which answers he cunningly hides from his reader [...]ho he rep [...] again and again.

As for t [...] Battle-Door, I sh [...] in my last, that G: F: was the [Page 16] Author of what J: Stubbs and B: Furley set his hand to, for they are G: F's words delivered by himself in English; but his fellow-labourers, doubtless being willing people of other tongues should have the benefit of them put them into several other languages; yet they being G: F's words, that they might not (like D: L:) assume to themselves other mens words did still set the Authors name to them: And if D: L: was from this so prodigiously cr [...]d­ulous, as to believe that G: F: had the Gift of Tongues &c: as he speaks of: yet I never did so believe; for which reason, I may as well conclude, that the Quakers were not made so to believe, as that they were. But again, like a man that thinks he hath a Licence to Lye backward and forward, as he lists, he now tells us, a Jew had Eighty Pound, to help viz: about the Battle-Door; but in his last he says. Thirty Pound, and his beloved Snake says Sixty Pound. How like men infatuated are they suffered to appear; and according to the Switch tho' they all bear false witness, [...], yet their witness agree not together.

From his page 14 Observe. As to his taunting and vapouring there about matter or Governmemt; I think it no more worth my notice than to referr my Reader from pa: 14 to 21 of Bomb-Search'd, for right information and satisfaction in this matter. Only, as to the story of his poor Banks, where in the same page he says ‘I pray God to keep them from having power to bite me, as they did poor Banks, one of their opposers, whom they catch'd carrying his goods on horses thro' Pensilvania and cast into Philadelphia Prison and took his goods from him, even his whole estate.’ Now observe, that this poor Banks was im­prisoned at Philadelphia is true; but that it was for going away with another m [...]ns wife, and goods who lived at New-York, and who about that same time sent after her is also true: For [...] saw her voluntarily down on her knees, asking the Governour's pardon [Page 17] for it; tho' when they were first taken, it being about twelve or one of the Clock of the night, she said she was the said Banks his wife but it being otherwise suspected, and closely said to her, she then said he was her husband in the sight of God: but be­ing that night kept apart and in the morning examined by Grif­feth Janes at whose Countrey house they were taken; she then owned her self to be the said man's wife at York and that the said Banks had perswaded her to go away with him: But Banks being examin­ed apart from her, he said she hired him to go with her down to Mary land. As for the goods, which D. L: calls [his goods] those who had the examination of the matter affirm, that she owned them to be her Husbands goods, and Banks tho' asked, would not own them to be his: And they were mostly expend­ed for her entertainment at the Ordinary; and that when she came again with her husband, the Accompt was settled, and he had what was left, as pr, discharge, under his hand appears. Now tho' this is that Banks the Ranter, whose name has long been of such an ill savour among sober people of all perswasions, yet this is D: L's Banks on whom the more to deceive) he be­stows this commis [...]rating Epithet, of [POOR] Banks but which is yet worse and sad to consider, how vainly this D: L: m [...]kes use of the sacred name of God in a pretended Prayer about it, upon this his false insinuating oration against us, in behalf of that old Ranter as above. And it's no discredit to us, that either Banks or his Comiserator D: L: should be our Opposer, (as he, very unfairly, without distinguishing how says Banks is so) for this very thing bespeaks them to be [...]oo much according to the Proverb, Like to Like, and Brethren in Ini­quity.

In his page 15 Observe. His turning our friends words to a litteral sense; [...] also his p [...]rver [...]ing their words when they told, and that truly, that the Powers in Oliver's days should be cut [Page 18] down, I am perswaded must be against his own conscience. And observe, tho' G: F: said they should be cut down by the same power &c: which is that power that pulls down and se [...]s [...] as he pleases) yet he did not say it should be by the same means or instruments as the same Executioner, the same Ax &: as D: L: idly talks of.

From, his pa: 16 Observe again, It doth not appear by what D: L: hath there said, thar G: F: could not write the date of the year, for however the date of one of his Letters may now ap­pear, which may be vitiated lying so long in Adver [...]aries hands; yet it plainly appears by the other Letter (which J: Talbot af­firms several that knew his learning owned to be his) that he both could and did write it; therefore the one could no more shew he could not, than the other shewed that he could and did. But it's worth the Reader's notice that they say of that which is unlearnedly writ, they are both avouch'd to be G: F's by them that knew his learning. Just as in one Letter, where they render him to write for Love [lou] and [love] in the other part of the same Letter, and [wiff] for wife in one Letter, and [wife] in the other; yet all said to be his by them that knew his Learning. To conclude, whatever he hath found in one Letter, conceining it's not being dated well; yet it fol­lows not, that therefore he could not do it seeing in the other Letter as themselves have published it's manifest, he both could and did do it, which was the most I said of it; and so have no satisfaction to make about it.

From his pa: 16: again Observe. Upon my shewing how in his writings he imitated word for word the Snake and G: K: he talks, as if he told me but I know not whhre that he can do no better, than follow the example of good men. Had he only said other men, those that trace him, may possibly be of the same min [...]. But how will he do by this? For his good man, the Snake, will not [Page 19] allow others in such work; but terms F: H: little (if any) less than a [...]hief for [...] the famous Seld [...]n about tythes tho' b [...] [...]ames the said Selden twice in the doing of it, see Switch, pa: 480.

Again Observe G: F: doth not say in page 7 of Sauls Errand. That what is not spoken from the mouth of the Lord is Conjuration: but rather that that which is Conjuration is the raising a living shing out of the dead and the Spirit out of the Letter &c: is that which is not from the mouth of the Lord.

Again by my mentioning a late instance of an ill practice done by a Clergy man in Rhoad Island I never said nor thought of a­ny now living there; for tho' there was an instance la [...]e in com­parison of D: L's long ago stories; yet the person was gone from thence some years before I writ: And this I the rather say (since he thus takes it) to clear any that may be now there, from any suspicion about it. And I do again say in sincerity, that we have learned otherwise, than to calu [...]nate their Society for particular miscarriages of some Clergy-men among them▪ But as I remember not that I was told, so I never did cast any calumny (as he speaks of) nor reflection on any Burlington Magistrate; neither was any one named to me. I only gave a hint of a matter in general, as 'twas reported to me, so I left it. And I see not how any person can justly say, he is concerned in it. And one would think D: L: might have been silent about it, till he had, at least given satisfaction for the great abuse he hath very frothily and undecently put upon the memory of A: Cook of Rhoad Island, and Mary A: of Long-Island both deceased. No, but instead of that, or whatever he may have said elsewhere in his pa: 15 16. he says my charging it among other things) as a falshood upon him it returns upon my own head, and that my charging it as a falshood in him is false in me; so that he holds his charge against them still, and yet makes no attempt to prove, nor in the least [Page 20] [...]o invalidate the proofs I, in my last produced against it. Indeed had we not learned otherwise, than thus palpably and fa [...]sly to accuse the Innocent we might justly have been esteemed as Wranglers and false Accusers, ou [...] not as Christian Contenders, for the holy Faith, once delivered unto the Saints. But alas, now 'tis out, for from my complaining against them for charging, and we say false charging. Innocent persons by name, who, when living, were preachers among us; and that it was not our way to do so by them, says D: L: but by the way, let me tell the Qua­kers, that the Clergy and Quaker Preachers are under differing cir­cumstances. But how? Why the substance is, The Clergy know­ing themselves (and all men) Sinners, pray for Pardon &c: Which the Quakers do not, but are too proud, and the like. Now that, that we do not (for here it hinges) is such a palpable falshood, that I need say no more for proof but to appeal to such as fre­quent our Meetings of worship. G: K: hath published in print rear 30 years ago that our friends frequently do it in our meet­ings, see Way Cast up pa: 121 122. And this I have in Satan's Harbinger shewed him; yet like a hardened person, he goes on, with his notorious false charge, taking no notice of what we justly say in vindication, as well as that we experience frequently in our publick meetings, his charge to be false. It's true, we have not the se [...] times, or hours to pray in neither do we read the Primitive Christians had any; but who cannot but see, that men may much as be lifted up in a proud concert of their per­formances of praying for pardon twice a week &c: as the Phari­sees for fasting twice a week? And indeed, how parrallell may this be to those Pharisees, who doubtless thought themselves under different circumstances from other men, for that they fasted twice a week and the like. Upon my complaining on them, for immodestly accusing innocent persons, as ab [...]ve, he calls it, tel­ling us of our failings; and that there is no other way to humb­le [Page 21] us: But I challenge him to sh [...]w, by one instance, that ever the Lord Justified any as Instruments to humble men, by raising in a vain and light way, false accusations against them. The Lord hath humbled, and hath his own ways to humble us, as he did his Servants of old tho' never j [...]st [...]fied his and their Ene­mies in their false immodest and scoffing attempts to do it. To conclude this, it seems as if it were from a high conceit they have of themselves (I do not mean all of that Society) and of their great humility, that they take such liberty to abuse us; but the Lord who knows our hearts, will one day plead our cause.

In his page 17 Observe, If D: L: will not own, that woes be­long to them that have made drunk the Nations, we cannot help that; but the Lord by his Servant John gave such a like lesson concerning them. Revel: 17 and 18 chap: And there is no comparison, betwixt telling a body of people, as i [...] were of their doing wickedness by consent, and by their publick unrighteous decrees, and framing mischief by Laws. I say, there is no comparison betwixt that, and taunting at a whole Society, for the failings of particular persons among them (for there was such in all ages) much more to abuse them.

From his pa. 18 Observe, It justification be in all respects wrought by Christ in his own person wholly without us, and performed but once, as he there says: How is it then that according to the Apostle, that Abraham our father was justified by works? And that a man is justified by works and not by faith only. And again it's said, we are justified by faith; now the faith of a Christian hath works and must be shewn by works see J [...]mes 2. and it worketh by love. But surely, the faith and good works of all Christians, were not performed in Christ's own person at once, and wholly without us. What signifies your [...]king such a boast of your ow [...]ing the Scripture more than your [Page 22] neighbours, when in this and in divers other things, you urge and practise so much that which is not Scriptural?

Again Observe, I have hitherto been trying D: L: for his a­buses to us but am now come, where he tells us he would have us try our w [...]ts, to see if we can reconcile Robert Barclay; but upon viewing the passage he assigns to try us by, I do confess I presently saw, that were it as hard to reconcile R: B: as it is to reconcile D: L: to honesty, he had then assigned us a very hard task; for according to his too much habituated manner, he most vitiousl [...] renders R: B: in page 895 of his Works, and says, He affirms that the historical faith and knowledge of Christ, is not commonly given to the Quakers or to be expected by them or any o­thers by the Spirit; but the Scriptures. Now this he hath framed to render R: B: to contradict himself in another place viz: page 43 saying, the Spirit teacheth every true Christian what is needful for him to know &c: But R: B's Works speaks for it self thus, ‘The Historical knowledge of Christ is not commonly manifest­ed to us, nor to any others, but by the holy Scriptures, as the means &c:’ Here we see, first, those words [by the Spirit] is D: L's base addition. And 2dly, those words [as the means] is as base an omission; for as R: B: s [...]d not, as he renders him so the scope of the Paragraph shews, that he did not in [...]end by what he writ, that the historical faith and knowledge of Christ was commonly given to men without the Spirit tho' by the Scrip­ture, as the means; and that's no contradiction; for tho' [...]he Scriptures be the means or Instrument of which the Lord, by his holy Spirit, makes use to convey us that knowledge; yet it follows not, that therefore it is without the Spirit as D: L cor­ruptly renders R: B: to say. Our Lord's promise was that the Spi­rit should teach us all things. And it was by the Anointing the Saints, afterwards had within the [...], by which they were taught all things. Yet it's clear, the Scriptures were commonly the means, by [Page 23] which the Revelation of Ch [...]ist crucified, was made known▪ as well as otherwise; for the Apostle speaking of the Mystery of Christ says it was by the Scripture made known unto all na­tions for the obedience of the faith, see John 14. 26. John 2. 27. compared wich Rom: 6 26. And this is no contradiction of which their own Doctrine shall be judge; for do not they themselves say, in their Church Catechism, that the Sacrament is a [means] where­by they receive the inward and Spiritual Grace which they also call a new birth now, a new birth is a regeneration; and tho' they say the Sacrament is the [means] of this regeneration, yet they do not say that this is without the Sprit: for they say expresly, at that very time, that they are regenerate with the Holy Spirit: So that R: B: honestly cited compared with Scripture and their own doctrine, makes D: L's mighty fabrick, being built on his usual foundation of false citations, to tumble down at once.

D: L: in his pa: 13. seems to threaten us with more jobbs of mending work. Indeed at this rate, he may help us to work enough; but untill he mend his own evil work and makes satis­faction at least by acknowledgment (tho' I have not thought my self oblidged in this to follow him with such particular citat­ions, as I us'd to do and as is usual in such cases with Adversaries, yet) he may expect for the future, to be followed, by me, less particularly than ever.