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SOME Reasons and Causes OF THE Late Seperation That hath come to pass at Philadelphia be­twixt us, called by some the Seperate Meeting, And Others that meet apart from us.

More particularly opened to Vindicate and Clear us and our Testimony in that respect, viz. That the Sepe­ration lyeth at their Door, and They (and not VVe) are justly chargeable with it.

WITH An Apology for the present Publication of these Things.

Rom. 16.17.

Now I beseech you Brethren, mark them which cause Divi­sions and Offences, contrary to the Doctrine which ye have learned, and avoid them.

1 Tim. 6.3.

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholsom words, even the words of our Lord Iesus Christ, and to the Doctrine which is according to Godliness, &c. v.5. from such turn away.

2 Cor. 6.14.

Be ye not unequally yoked together with Vnbelievers, &c. and v 17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye seperate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you, &c.

Rev. 2.20.

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that Woman Jezabel, which calleth her self a Prophetess, to Teach, &c.

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An Apology for the present Publication of these Things.

WE are sorry that we should have occasion to publish such Account of things, in the open View of all, who may read the following Account, or hear of it, that may be occasion of Grief to many, especially who had better Thoughts of some here-away, than the said Account doth give of them; and it is too probable, the Enemyes of Truth and of all true Religion, will seek to take Advantage there from, and think themselves greatly gra­tified thereby, so as to rejoyce the more in their Iniquity, and glory over the sincere Lovers and Professors of Truth. But as on the one hand, we have been deeply afflicted with sorrow to find some so highly pretending to Truth, and to the inward and immediate Teachings and Leadings of the Spirit of Truth, which they have greatly profes­sed, and some of them have preached for some Years, so very igno­rant and unsound in some of the chief and Fundamental Principles of the Christian Faith and Doctrine, and so resolute and confident in their Ignorance and Error, that they have from time to time refused and rejected good and seasonable Information, and means of Instru­ction, that have been in love held forth unto them, partly in publick Testimonies, and partly in private Meetings [...]d Conferences. So after our great and deep Affliction of Sorrow o [...] thei [...] account, and for the sake of many simple People that owned them as Ministers of Christ, whom we saw to be greatly hurt, blinded and darkened with them, but not further enlightned by means of them, notwithstanding of their great and high pretences to Light and Life, and to the Spirit and Power of God inwardly revealed, we can and do sincerely say, on the other hand, God hath greatly comforted us, and we have great joy and consolation in the sence of his Love, revealed and sealed to us by his holy Spirit in our hearts, being perswaded by the same, that according to his Soveraign Wisdom, Goodness and Power, and great Faithfulness, he will make these very things, to wit, the Discoveries that some men have lately given of themselves, to work for good to [Page 3] many; and we may sincerely and uprightly say, They, and not We, have discovered and made Publick these things; for when they heard true and sound Doctrine preached, concerning Christ and the true Faith in him, &c. they have whispered against it, and publickly rejected it, which yet hath been greatly refreshing and edifying to us, and to many others, having [...]elt the Power of Christ accompanying that Doctrine, and sealing to the Truth of it in our hearts; so that not only we have owned and do own the Doctrine that hath been preached among us, of late Times, by divers that God hath raised up in a zealous Testimony to the Truth of these things ( Denyed by some, and Rejected by others, and meanly esteemed by too many, as not Necessary, but Indifferent matters to Salvation, to be believed, though true) but also, we have owned, and do own the Spirit by which that Do­ctrine hath been zealously delivered unto us, being perswaded, it was of God; and we do not judge so rashly and uncharitably as some do, calling that sincere and godly Zeal, that hath appeared in some among us in publick Testimonies, Anger and Passion: But it is no new thing to hear Light call'd Darkness, as well as Darkness called Light, and Good Evil, and Evil Good; we believe, and are perswaded, that as to the main, it hath been and is a sincere godly Zeal, that hath been of Gods raising in some of our Brethren, both to preach in publick Testimonies this Doctrine, so much of late contradicted by some, and slighted by others, and to defend it with gre [...]t freedom and bold­ness in private Conferences and Meetings, and at some Monethly Mee­tings, notwi [...]hstanding of what humane Weaknesses (as to Circum­stances) might at times, on great Provocations, attend some, that we believe God hath forgiven, which have been far greater on their side, than on [...], wherein some of them have exceeded all bounds of Christian Moderation, to the pronouncing Dreadful Wo [...]s against the Innocent (which none of us have done) and giving bad Names to such who did not deserve it; thus putting the Sheep of Christ into Wolves and Bears Skins, to render them odious, and to be the Object of Tongue and Heart Persecution, which too much abounds in this part of the World, although by the Mercy of God, and the good Laws of the Country, Persecution by Violence of the Hands, is re­strained.

Now that these men have been the Discoverers of their own Igno­rance, Error and Unbelief, is very apparent, because they not only [Page 4] dared to whisper against found Doctrine in private, but openly in Meetings appointed to hear these Differences, and even at Monethly Meetings, they have been so bold as to resist found Doctrine, and show their Unbelief; and the Nature of our Meetings being such, especially our Monethly Meetings, that too many come to them and sit in them, hearing all things there [...], that are not qualified, either with Chri­stian Knowledge or Prudence, or indeed with humane Discretion, as men, to conceal things that are not always seasonable to be published, insomuch that scarce any thing hath been said or done in a Monthly Meeting for a long time past, but it is soon after publickly known: And we desire to reverence the Providence of God, and to acknow­ledge his powerful Hand, Wisdom and Goodness, and great faithful­ness in this Discovery; for we are well satisfied it is far better that the hidden things of Esau be searched and found out, than to remain hid; for when Achan had Transgressed in the Camp of Israel, and had hid the accursed thing, the Anger of the Lord was kindled against them until he was discovered, and Judgment executed against him. And seeing it is so, that many evil and hurtful Opinions, that are as poysonous Weeds, have had too much place among us, but have so secretly lurked under Ground, and yet have brought forth bad Fruit above Ground; for it is the Nature of Errors in Doctrine, to produce Errors of Practice, and evil Conversation of Life, that we did not know that such bad Fruits did spring from such bad Principles of Do­ctrine that were held by them, but we did rather impu [...]e them to some other Cause, than to Ignorance or Error in Judgment. We have great cause to rejoyce and bless God that his Light hath made this Discovery among us; for the Light discovereth Darkness, as well of Error and Unbelief, in relation to Doctrine, as in matters of bad Conversation; and we are fully perswaded, that it is an infallible sign of that approaching Glory of Gods blessed Day that is more abundant­ly to be revealed among us, and in us, which many of our faithful Friends have fore-told, as nigh at hand, and all the faithful have much longed and wai [...]ed for, and continually pray for. And it will have a service to bring many to Truth, that have stood at a distance, because of Offences and Stumbling Blocks that have been laid in their way, through the Ignorance of many, especially who have professed the Truth with us, after some sort, but have not received the t [...]ue and sound Knowledge of it; and too many that have presumed to preach [Page 5] and pray in our Meetings, their way both of preaching and praying hath been very offensive to many tender-hearted People, by their pre­tending greatly to the Spirits Leadings and Movings, when they have expressed very unsound and unsavoury words, and have greatly dis­covered their unskillfullness in the Mystery of Christ, both outwardly as he came in the Flesh, dyed and rose again, and is ascended, and the great benefit of his outward Coming to men, as so known and belie­ved by them, and as inwardly revealed; so that many who have come to our Meetings have been as a hungery Child that greatly needed the Breast, and thirsted for the sincere Milk of the Word, having heard a great Noise of it, but when they came to suck they did not find that which answered their d [...]sire, and went away dis-satisfied, and the Breast it self was so daubed over with what was unpleasant to them, as Mustard or [...] Sout is to the Mouth or Taste of a sucking Child. But God having so ordered it by his great Love, that by his marvellous Providence discovering these things, that hath been a long and great hurt and hinderance to the prevailing of Truth among u [...], and causing his Light to spring up more clearly among us, that Christ and the Faith of him, both without us and within us, is sincerely and powerfully preached by some of Gods raising up among us, more clearly and fully than many have formerly known, although the Do­ctrine is the same in matter and substance, that the most faithful and soundest Friends and Brethren have all along held from the beginning; and we are infallibly assured, this present Exercise that is at present so heavy and grievous to many honest hearted for want of a through disce [...]ning and understanding the Mind and Counsel of God therein, and his blessed Purpose, for the Advancement of his Truth shall greatly [...]end to their Comfort in due Time, and to the Comfort of many, to raise them up to give Glory to God, with high Praises in their Hearts and Mouthe [...], for what he hath begun to do, and will finish and perfect in his own time, for the Exaltation of his own Name, and the Name of his dear Son, that the Mystery of him, even that great Mystery of Godliness, which is Christ come in the Flesh, and God manifest in the Flesh, even in that Body of Flesh, through Death to re [...]oncile us unto God, with the blessed Effects and Fruits of it, inwardly witnessed by the Revela­tion of him in us, may be yet more gloriously revealed, that the Souls and Hearts of many may be affected with the same, and overcome therewith, to love him, and live to him, who dyed for them, and [...]ose [Page 6] again, and to love God, and live to God through him, in all holy [...], who gave him freely unto them. And though the Adver­saries of Truth may for a small time rejoyce a little, and seem to be gra [...]ified and strengthened in their Enmity against Truth, and the sin­cere Lovers and Professors of it, so as even to seem to glory over the [...], yet after a little time their joy will be turned into sorrow, and their great glorying and seeming gratifyings, into Discontents and Fret­ [...]ings, when they shall be made to see and acknowledge the Hand of the Lord in all these things (to their great Amazement and Disap­pointment) for the good of all that love him, and the Exaltation of his Name, and promoting Truth and Righteousness in the Earth, that his Kingdom may come in greater Power and Glory, and his Will may be done on Earth, as it is in Heaven. And as for all such who are, by a [...] Spirit, acted to Prophecy false things concerning us (and to pronounce Woes against us) and our present Work and Testimony, as if both it and we should fall and come to nothing (as some have done) our Faith and Trust is in God, and our Dependance and Relyance is on him, whose we are, and whom we serve, and for whose Glory and Honour we are zealously concerned in this present Service, with true Humility of Mind, and earnest Prayer unto God, that he will preserve and strengthen us to the end, and make our Almond Rods to bud and blossom, while others that resist the Truth of our Testi­mony will wither; for of a Truth, God is with us, and on our side, whose blessed Power and Presence we feel, to encourage and strengthen us; and therefore let such who gain- [...]ay the Truth of our Testimony, and from a rash, head-strong and wilfull Spirit, make opposition to the same, take heed what they do, lest they be found Fighters against God (for what is of God will stand, let ever so many high and bold Pretenders to that which they are not real Possessors, contradict it) and lest that be fullfilled concerning them, that is written, Acts 13.41. Behold, ye Despisers, and wonder and perish, for I work a Work in your Days, a Work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you, compar'd with Hab. 1.5.

And further, the false Reports and Rumors that are already spread abroad concerning us, by many, laying all fault upon us of this pre­sent Breach and Division, and loading, not only us, but the Truth it self with many false and bitter Aspertions, Reflections and [...], will be cause enough (we hope, to all impartial People to whose [...] [Page 7] this shall come) to be a just Apology to us, for the Vindication of Truth, and the sincere Doctrine of Christ, that is greatly reviled in divers great and weighty particulars, particularly the Doctrine of Christs being in Heaven in the true Nature of Man, and Substance of the Seed of Abraham and David, which he took o [...] the Virgin, according to which he is called the Seed of the Woman that should bruise the Head of the Serpent, and which was promised to man immediately after the Fall, and the Faith of him and in him, as such, its being necessary to our perfect Iustification and Salvation: His Co [...]ing again and Appearing without us to judge the Quick and the Dead, in the appointed Time that approacheth; and the Resurrection of the Dead, and Day of Iudgment, when all Mankind shall stand before the Son of Man; it is dreadful and astonishing to think what Vomit and Filth some of late have cast out against these precious Doctrines and Testimonies of Truth, some ca [...]ing them Popery, some Presbyterian and Baptists Principles; but we must not reject all that either Papists, or Presbyterians, or Baptists pro­fess in words, and which our Charity obligeth us to judge, that some among them really and sincerely believe, as that there is one God and one Lord Jesus Christ, and one holy Spirit, and many other good and wholsom parts of Christian Doctrine; but the greater is the Shame, and the Offence and stumbling Block is the greater, in the way of many, that divers plain and first Principles of Christs Doctrine, owned by all Christendom, or at least, for the most part, should be either denyed or questioned by any among us, that make so high Pretences to the Spirit of Christ, and yet are so ignorant of the Doctrine of Christ, whereas the Spirit of Christ leadeth all who have it, to believe and own Chri [...]s Doctrine, and honourably and worthily to esteem of it, and the true Witnesses of it, where ever it is preached.

And concerning Christ's Coming and Appearance without us, even the Man Christ Jesus, in his glorified Nature and Body, that is not the Godhead, but the Temple of it, in the Time appointed, that is [...] at hand than many are aware of, which will be [...] dreadful to [...] the Workers of Iniquity, and especially to all Vnbelievers that do not believe that he will ever so appear, although the Scripture Testimony is very full and plain thereto, and will be very refreshing and [...]ull of [...] to all that believe in him, and believe and wait for him, that he wi [...] so appear, and that the time ha [...]te [...]eth, We [...] all, not to [...] of it, for it is a great and necessary Doctrine of the Christ [...] [...], [Page 8] highly conducing to true Christian Piety & Godliness, that he will come again and appear without us, to judge the Quick and the Dead, lest they be found among such, & numbered with them, concerning whom he spoke, with relation to that very time when he should so come to raise the Dead and judge the World, Luke 18.8. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man cometh, shall he find Faith on the Earth?

Some Reasons and Causes of the late Sepe­ration here at Philadelphia.

THe first Cause of the Seperation betwixt them and us, was this, That at a Monethly Meeting held at Philadelphia the 29th of the 11th Moneth last, T.— having openly in the face of the Meeting accused G. K. for denying the Sufficiency of the Light, and promising to bring his Evidence the next Monethly Meeting, or then that he would acknowledge he had done amiss; And at the next Mo­nethly Meeting being required to give his Evidence, he brought W— who was known to be a prejudiced Person against G. K. and so could be no sufficient Evidence agianst him, besides that, divers were present at the Place and Time, where and when W— alledged he heard G.K. deny the Sufficiency of the Light, &c. that cleared him, That they heard him bo [...]h t [...]en and at all occasions, that he delivered his Mind on that Subject alway [...]s bear [...]estimony to the Sufficiency of the Light to Salvation. And at the said Meeting, being the 26th of the 12 Moneth, T— having said in the Meeting, (in answer to a Question put to him by G. K.) That he had not learned that Less [...]n, whether the Body of Christ that was nai [...]ed to the C [...]oss, crucified, buried, rose and ascended, &c. was the God­head, or some-what that Christ took of the Virgin; At which many were greatly offended to find him so ignorant, having been so long a Prea­cher. And after much discourse about these matters, the Meeti [...]g did adjourn with unanimous Co [...]se [...]t of them that staid, which was the far greatest part, and also with the consent of T.— himself, and these who went away before the adjourning of it, said nothing against it, nor was the Meeting understood to be broke up before the adjourn­ment, [Page 9] only some few did go away, it being cold Weather, and grow­ing dark; the adjou [...]ning of the said Monethly Meeting was to the next day about the eighth hour, at which time they me [...] i [...] the School­house, where the Meeting used to be kept at tim [...]s in the Winter Season. And after much discourse concerning T— in the [...] Mee­ting, he being required to prove his Charge, and to condem [...] his [...] Ignorance and Unbelief; but refusing to do either (though he said publickly in the Meeting, If he did not prove his Charge against t [...]e next Monethly Meeting, he would acknowledge his Error, and yet did neither) and going away from the Meeting, the Friends of [...]he Mee­ting (some that were present that were not in the Profession of Truth, removing at the desire of Friends) did give a unanimous judgment conce [...]ning T— A true Copy whereof hereafter followeth. And the said Judgment being desired by Friends that gave it to be recorded in the Monethly Meeting Book, at the next Quarterly Meeting, that happened within a few dayes after, a Party in the Meeting did with­stand it▪ and deny'd them that gave the Judgment to be a true Monthly Meeting, and consequently their Judgment was void. And by this it plainly appeareth, the Breach was on their side; for there is no Equity or Reason why they having denyed us to be a Meeting, that we should own them, seeing we were really a Meeting, lawfully adjourned, con­sisting of at least Sixty Persons, most of which used to keep Month­ly Meetings, and owned to be Friends in the same Profession with them.

And at the same Monethly Meeting on the sixth Day, W— an antient Preacher, having renewed his former Accusation against G.K. charging him openly in the face of the Meeting, That he preached Two Christs, because he preached Faith in Christ within, and in Christ without us, &c. and on the next day, at the Meeting adjourned, he being sent for by the Meeting, to make his Charge good, or else condemn his Ignorance and Error, but he refusing to come, the Meeting did also give a unanimous Judgment concerning him (not one dissenting in either of the Judgments, only one or two signifying th [...]ir not through­ly understanding the case, declared thei [...] unclearness, but said nothing against it) the true Copy whereof doth also hereafter follow. And this Judgment also given b [...] the Meeting, being refused by a Party in the Quarterly Meeting to let it be entred in the Monethly Meeting Book, gave us just Offence, because in so doing they refused us to be a [Page 10] Monthly Meeting, and denyed our Judgment, which we are perswad­ed in our Consciences, by the Spirit of Truth, was a just Judgment concerning these men, and we could do no less, both for the Peace of our Consciences, and the honour of Christ Jesus, and also for the credit of our Profession, in all parts of the World, where such a Profession is made, than to give such a Judgment concerning these Men. [ Note, That G. K. ha [...] no hand in giving Iudgment concerning these Persons and Matters, but was wholy [...] b [...]ing the Person accused ▪ And also, Note, that t [...]y watch re [...]sed our Iudgments, were present at the said [...], but when they perceived things to go contrary to their Mind, t [...]ey with-drew.]

Another thing wherein the said Party, both in the Quarterly and Monethly Meeting gave us Offence, was, That whereas great Oppo­sition had been made by them [...]gainst a late printed [...]ook, entituled, The Christian Faith of the People of God called Quakers in Rhode-Island, vindicated, &c. several Friends presented to this Meeting a Paper, desi [...]g the Meeting to be cautious not to oppose the Rhode-Island Friends Testimony to the Truth; whereupon, after having read and duely considered the said Rhode-Island Sheet, judgment was given by us, approving it, and W. B. for printing it, but this also was refused by them to be recorded in the Monethly Meeting Book, wherein they have given a Three-fold Instance that they have denyed us to be a Meeting. A Practice that we never knew before among the People ca [...]ed Quakers, that ever such a thing was suf [...]red, that one party of a Monthly Meeting should deny their Brethren, and leave them, and yet afterwards lay claim to them, when they themselves made the Seperation.

Here follows a true Coppy of the Iudgments given at the Monthly Meeting held at Philadelphia the 27 day of the 12 Month, 1691, 2, which was the Meeting adjourned by consent from the 26 to the 27 day, where they met at the School-house, as used in cold Seasons.

WHereas at the last Monthly Meeting T— openly accused G. Keith with denying the sufficiency of the Light, which G. K. denying, T— insisted that [...]e could prove the same. And coming into this Meeting to prove his Charge, brought W— as his Witness, whom the Meeting having heard, the said [...]— by his own consent lest the matter to [Page 11] the Iudgment of this Meeting, which they having duely weighed and consi­dered, they do unanimously agree, and deliver it as their sence, That the said T— do give [...]orth a Paper of Condemnation, of his falsly charging G. K. and to clear the said G. K. of the said Charge. As also, it is the sence of this Meeting, that the said T— do give satisfaction to the Friends of this Meeting, by a Paper, of his true Faith and Belief in Christs Resurrection, and as he is now in Heaven, in the glorified Nature of Man, which is not the Godhead, he having given this Meeting great cause to question his Belief therein; and that he [...]orbear offering his Gift by way of Testimony in our publick Meetings, until he hath given Friends and G. K. satisfaction in manner above-said.

Whereas W— having formerly accused G. K. with preaching Two Christs, and the Charge and matter having been fully debated at the last Yearly Meeting, be [...]ore publick Friends, and others, who did deliver it as their Sense and Iudgment, That the said W— had abused G.K. there­by, and that G. K 's Doctrine was right & true in his preaching Faith in Christ within, and Faith in Christ without; and the said W— having never given any Satisfaction, but at t [...]is Monthly Meeting did say, That what he had formerly said, in his Charge against G.K. he did yet stand by and justifie; The Friends of this Meeting do deliver it as their Sense and Iudgment, That the said W— should condemn his Vnrighteous Charge publickly, by giving for [...]h a Paper of Condemnation for his so doing, and that he desist offering his Gi [...]t by way of Testimony, till he hath so done.

There being a Paper presented to this Meeting, signed by several Friends, in relation to the Rhode-Island Paper, entituled, The Christian Faith▪ &c. recommending the service of the said Paper, &c. whereupon the said Paper being read in this Meeting, the Friends thereof do unanimously agree, and give it as their Sense and Iudgment, That the said Paper is for the general good and Service of Truth, and Friends, in this Country and else-where, and that it came forth very seasonably for the Vindication of Truth and Friends; and that W.B. ought not to be blamed, nor discouraged for print­ing the same.

Signed by order of the Meeting, by J. W.

But, that it may appear how weak and insufficient the Reasons are, that were given by the said Party at the Quarterly Meeting, why we were no M [...]eting, we think fit to give an account of them, with our Answers to them. One Reason was, That a Monet [...]ly Meeting co [...]ld not adjourn, and there was no President for it: But to this the Clark of the [Page 12] Meeting answered, That he had minuits to show, a Monthly Meeting had formerly adjourned; And why could not a Monthly Meeting, upon a weighty occasion adjourn, as well as any other Meeting? Another Reason was, That the Clark and the Monthly Meeting Lo [...]k was gone: But to this it was answered, The Monthly Meeting could make or consti­tute a Clark, as other Meetings have done; for it is the Meeting that makes the Clark, and it is not the Clark that makes the Meeting. A 3 d Reason was, There were few o [...] the Friend [...] of the Ministry, or Elder Friends and Brethren, that were present at the adjourning, or at the Meeting adjourned. To this it was answered, That there were more, both Friends of the Ministry, and Elder Friends and [...]rethren at that Mee­ting that did adjourn, and met when adjourned, than hath been at many Monthly Meetings here, that have been approved. A 4 th Reason was, That the matter o [...] Difference being a matter of Doctrine, and be­twixt Friends of the Ministry, a Monthly Meeting could not be proper Iudges o [...] it. To this it was answered, That the Difference being a matter of Fact, (and [...]ot a matter of Doctrine that could be called in Question by any Judicious Christian,) and the Accusation being made to the Monthly Meeting, they were proper Judges of it; and i [...] the Differ­ence had been a matter of Doctrine, we did, and do assert, That the Monthly Meeting, to wit, consisting of a considerable Number of F [...]nds of the Ministry, and other judicious Friends, were proper Judges of it; but to lodge the Judgment wholly in Friends of the Mi­nistry, and to deny all other Friends to have a share in the Judgment, even when the Difference is in a matter of Doctrine, we judge is an encroachment upon our Christian Liberty, and savours too much of the Church of Rome; as also that other ease pressed too indiscreetly at the Quarterly Meeting, when some that were known to be Parties against G. K. did require of him his Submission to the Judgment of the Meeting; He answe [...]ed (as we judge, soberly and Christianly) That [...] to the Iudgment of the Spirit of Truth in Friends; but to give an absolute Submission, he could not, to any S [...]ciety of men what­soever; fo [...] absolute Submission implyeth absolute In [...]allibility, that no Society [...] pretendeth unto but the Church of Rome, and therefore to introd [...]e it among us, would be Rank Pope [...]y; at which some [...] [...]gainst G. K. were g [...]eatly dissatisfied, and one took out his Pocket- [...]ook and writ down some words of G. K. to that effect before he had finished the full Sentence, which we judge was very unfair, as well as unusual.

[Page 13]But whereas some from this would infer, as if G. K. denyed any positive Power of Iudgment to a true Church, or Meeting of true Christians, met together in the Name of Christ, where he is present in the mindst of them G. K. gave no ground for any such inference, for he doth rea­dily grant, That a true Christian Assembly hath a positive Power of Judgment, when met together in his Name, and that he is present in the midst of them, and is felt and witnessed to guide them in true Judgment. But we all know, that it is possible at times, that Parti­ality, and Prejudice, and Annimosities may prevail in Meetings, that may pretend to meet in the Name of Christ, and also to have him present in the midst of them, and yet where such things prevail, Christ is not in the midst known to give true Judgment, or to guide men to give it, as Friends Letter to us from London expresly declareth. And therefore we judge, That No absolute Submission should be required of any Member to the Judgment of that Society he belongeth unto in a matter of Truth or Christian Doctrine, or wherein the Conscience is concerned; for it is time enough to submit to the Judgment of Bre­thren, when a man hath heard it, and has brought it to the Ballance and Test of that which giveth true Judgment in every particular, that is in a qualified Frame to understand it, even as Christ said, As I hear I judge, John 5.30. And if any be st [...]ff and Refractory to the true Judgment of the Christian Society he belongeth unto, they may freely proceed to put into Practice Gospel [...]iscipline against him, without requiring his Submission, as it is in Worldly Judicatories.

But if any say, At last it was yeilded in the Quarterly Meeting, that the Adjourned Meeting in the School-house was a true Meeting, but an Appeal was made from that Monthly Meeting to the Quarterly Meeting, and the Quarterly Meeting offering to give a new Iudgment in the Case, and in order thereto ordered G K. to with-draw, he refusing so to do, hindered that [...]o Iudgment could be given. But to this it was and is answered, That there could be no Appeal from that Monthly Meeting to the Q [...]arterly Meeting, because most of the Quarterly Meeting did con­ [...]t of the Friends that gave the Judgment at the Monthly Meeting, and such as were over, were but a few in comparison, except some Country Friends that did not care to meddle in that matter, and so to appeal from the Monthly Meeting to the Quarterly Meeting, was in effect but to appeal from the Monthly Meeting to a small part or Num­ [...] of Persons in the Quarterly Meeting, the most of which, and [Page 14] the most leading men, were known to be prejudiced against G. K. and Parties against him; and G. K. did offer very fairly in naming seven or eight Persons, that we know were his opposite Parties (and had been mainly instrumental at former Meetings about a Year ago, and at the time of the Yearly Meeting, to hinder Justice to be done, and true Judgment to be past concerning bringing W— to Conviction and Condemnation of his Error) That if they would go out, he would go out also, but they who were his manifest opposite Parties, and had manifestly appeared from time to time to excuse and defend W— and blame G. K. for his sound Christian Doctrine that he hath preached among us, refusing to go forth, we are satisfied G. K. did well not to go forth, so as to submit to the judgment of these men, who had sufficiently shown their Partiality against him, and som of which had unjustly accused him, as can be well proved. Besides, things being duely considered, there was no reason that G. K. should have gone forth, either at that Meeting or any other, for G. K. was no otherwise concerned in that Difference with W— and T— than all faithful Friends, and the whol [...] Meeting ought to have been con­cerned, to wit, to defend one of the greatest Principles of the Christian Faith, viz. That the Man Christ Iesus who was crucified, did rise from the Dead, and is now in being, And That Faith in him is ne [...]essary to make men true Christians; And therefore not G. K. alone, nor principally, but Christ himself, and all his faithfull Followers are concerned in the same; and in none of these Meetings was any Charge of any Trespass proved against G. K. nor so much as brought under the Consideration of the Body of the Meeting, only one or two particular Persons fasly accused him, but the thing was never brought to any due Tryal. And here let it be noted, [...]hat both the Meeting of Friends of the Ministry at R. E's refusing to answer G. K's Complaint against the dishonour done to Christ Jesus, that W— was guilty of, so as to bring him to any Conviction or Condemnation of his Error, and also the Meetings at the House of S. C. and A. M. at the time of the Yearly Meeting, wholly neglecting to bring the said W— to Conviction and Condem­nation of his Error, altho' at the last of six Meetings it was declared, That G. K 's Doctrine concerning Christ within and Christ without to be One Lord Iesus Christ, was true, and that therefore W— was blame worthy, and yet after all this W— persisted in his false Charge against G. K. and hath been greatly excused and supported by many, that this hath [Page 15] given such deep ground of offence, to all of us, with other thing concurring, that because to this day nothing hath been done (it being now above a Year since complaint was made against W—) by these of the other side, who meet in a Seperation from us, either to bring W— or T— to Condemnation, but suffer them to continue to preach and pray in their Meetings; therefore we do justly judge, That the whole Meeting that meet in a Seperation from us, that owneth these men & tollerateth them in their great Errors and Trepasses, are guilty with them, and accountable for their Errors; and therefore according to Christs command recorded in the holy Scripture, we ought to be sepe­rate from them, altho' (as hath been sufficiently proved) they began the Seperation, and they having begun it, we cannot in Conscience unite in Meetings with them here at Philadelphia, until they give satis­faction to Truth in these weighty things.

The Second Cause of the Seperation (which also we lay at their door) is, That whereas in the Monthly Meeting in the first Month last, a Proposition bei [...]g made to change the Meetings, both at the Centre & in the Town, and some being for the said Change, and others against it, and having good Reasons why they were against the said Change, ye [...] a Par [...] in the Meeting, contrary to our declared mind and assent, [...] over them that dissented, to change the said Meetings; a [...] we have not known formerly allowed by Friends any where in their [...]onthly meetings, that one Party (suppose equal or greater in Number than the rest) should assume a Power to appoint or change Place [...] and Times of Meetings without the Consent of their Brethren; for things, of that Nature especially, use always to be done with una­nimous Consent, and not by Plurality of Votes, which is not the way of Truth; and because we were not free to stand to the Arbitrary and Rash Determination, as to that Change, therefore we met at the ordi­nary Meeting-place, as formerly practised, and they began the Sepe­ration, in keeping a Publick Meeting in the after-noon at the Bank, contrary to our declared sense and mind, only some of us met at a pri­vate Family meeting in the Evening, at the House of G. K. that could be counted no seperate Meeting for that day. And afterwards, we finding they were resolved to continue in their way of Seperation, and that some had endeavoured to lo [...]k us out from meeting at the Bank in the fore-noon, this put us upon seeking a new place to meet in, in [Page 16] case we had been disappointed of the other; and tho' some of us did declare our sincere intention and sense, that it were good but to have one Publick Meeting on first Days, to end about the second hour, and the remaing part to be used for private Meetings in Families, yet their keeping up their publick After-noons meeting, hath given us just occasion at present to have a Publick After-noons Meeting as well as they, for we hope they shall not have any cause to say against us, that we are short of them in our Zeal for good Meetings.

Things being thus far advanced, and the Seperation being begun, and carried on so far by them, and justly chargeable upon them, some of them having desired us to make some Proposals, or Expedients for healing the Breach, and uniting again as formerly, after some time we s [...]nt some Proposals to them, that we were satisfied in our Consciences were most equal and just, and such as the Truth required of us; but they are so far from being satisfied with most of them, that they have the more blamed us, some insinuating as if we had transgressed the Law, but we are not afraid of any such thing, providing true Liberty of Conscience, according to the just and due bounds of it, be allowed to us; and for our part, we are so well satisfied that all our Proposals to them (in that Paper signed by fifteen of us) are just and equal, that if they please, we shall freely consent to their Printing of them. The sum of which Proposals doth principally consist in these two things, 1st, That all such of the Ministry among them, whom we can prove guilty of preaching false Doctrine, or of falsly accusing the Innocent, or ex­cusing and defending the Guilty, and contending against some sound Prin­ciples of Truth, in Meetings appointed for hearing these Differences, may be brought to Conviction and Acknowledgment of their Error and Trespasses: And 2dly, Seeing (by a marvelous Providence that hath discovered it) that our Monthly Meetings here-away have consisted of a mixt Number of some Believers and some Vnbelievers, or of some men unsound in the Christian Faith, that we agree together to put Robert Barclay's Doctrine (well ap­proved of by the best of our Friends in England, and particularly by G. F. and G. W.) into Practice, in his Book called, The Anarchy of th [...] Ranters, &c. see §. 4. p. 32, [...]3. & §. 6. p. 48, 49. which is▪ To declare our Faith and Perswasion in certain Fundamental Doctrines of the Christian Faith and Religion, that by the same, as well as by a good Life and Conver­sation, it may be known who are qualified to be members of our Church; and that every one owned to be a member of our Church, declare his Faith & Per­swasion [Page 17] in every [...] these Fundamentals, which is a secondary [...]end [...] our V [...]i [...]n, the Spirit being the principal, which may be easily done by answering to [...] plain Questions, with Yea or Nay.

And now, a Third & main Reason that we give for this Seperation, well warranted both by Scripture Testimony, and command of Christ recorded in Scripture, and the truth of it sealed to us, by the Spirit of Truth in our hearts, that whereas there are diver [...] of the [...] ▪ of most Gross and Vnchristian Errors against the Fundamental Doctrine [...] of the Christian Faith, who are publick Preachers among them, and whose Ministry they fit under, and some encourage them, others tollerate and suffer them; and that others even of their Preachers are guilty of other gross Errors, and other Trespasses that render them altogether unqualified for the Ministry, and to uphold or tollerate them is to bring Reproach to Truth and ou [...] holy Profession, and to the Body of our faithful Friends, with all whom we remain in [...]ar Unity in all parts of the World, hoping that faith [...]ul Friends and Breth [...]en th [...]t have an impar [...]ial account and information of us, and do rightly and duely consider and examine the Righteousness of our Cause, wi [...] en­courge us therein, to the Disappointment of such who affirm the con­trary, but we being principally supported & encouraged by the Spirit of Truth in our hearts, that as such men immediately guilty of these vile Errors, some of which no Protestant Christian Society would tolerate, neither Episcopal, Presbyterian nor Baptist, are to be turned away and seperated from; so that Society is to be turned away from, whoever they be, that doth uphold or tollerate them, and bring them not to due Conviction and Condemnation, after due and sufficient notice is given unto them, as there hath been for a long time, from one Mee­ting to another, as concerning some of them, now many Months since past, and nothing done effectually to bring them to any Conviction, but that it seemeth they are resolved still to support or tollerate them. Now the Scriptures that warrant us in this Seperation (altho' as is said first made by them) are these following, 2 Cor. 6.14, 15, 16, 17. 1 Tim. 6.3, 4, 5. 2 Tim. 3.2, 3, 4, 5. Tit. 3.10. Rev. 18.4. 2 Thes. 3.6. Rom. 16.17. Rev. 2.14, 15, 20. and the same is expresly confirmed by the Doctrine delivered by R. Barclay in his said Book, well approved by good Friends, who expresly saith, p. 5. [...]. We do sa [...]ly conclude, t [...]at where a People are gathered into a Belief of the Principles and Doctrines of [Page 18] the Gospel of Christ, if any of that People go from their Principles, and assert [...] false, and contrary to what they have already received, such as stand and abide firm in the Faith, have Power, by the Spirit of God, after [...] Christian endeavours to convince and reclaim them, upon [...] to SEPERATE from such, §. 6. p. 52. and §. 4. p. 33. [...]e [...]aith, The Escapes, Fauls, and Errors of such who own, believe and p [...]o [...]ess the same Do [...]tri [...]es and Principles of Faith with us, and go under the [...] Dis [...]nction and Denomina [...]ion, may by our Adversaries, justly be [...] not seasonably and christianly reproved, reclaimed or [...]. And therefore we [...]udge, that we have equal ground & cause of Seperation, as well from that whole Society that doth not condemn th [...]s [...] men, for their gross Errors in Fundamental Doctrines, as we have to seperate from these particular men, seeing they who tollerate them, [...] by Scripture and R. B's book, are guilty with them, and the [...] of these men may be justly imputed to them. Note, That whereas it hath been said by some, That they would have dealt with t [...]ese m [...]n [...] have been guilty of those Errors, but that G. K. would not go forth, being desired to with-draw at the Meeting at R. E 's and at the Quarterly Meeting: To th [...] it is answered, That G. K. had good reason not to with-draw at both these times, because at both these times these who [...] take upon them to be Judges, were his manifest Parties against him, and so could not be in justice his Judges; but at the Yearly Meeting he did with-draw at the Meeting's de [...]re, and yet they did nothing to bring W— to Conviction; besides, it was not G. K. but the Truth it self, that the Difference was concerning; and therefore there was no occasion for G. K. to with-draw; and they have had sufficient time [...] to have done it, but nothing that we can hear of is done.

[...] it is very strange, what some h [...]ve said, That no Error in Doctrin or T [...]pass w [...]atsoeve [...] o [...] particular Persons, though tollerated by a Society [...] were joy [...]ed with in [...] Profession of Truth, can be any just cause of Seperation, doth equally blame all our Friends in their Seperation from the respective Societies they were formerly joyned in Profession with, as some in their Seperation from the Church of Rome, others from the [...], others from the Presbyterian and Baptists, and doth equally [...] the Seperation of the faithful Martyrs in Q. Mary's days from [...]he Popish Worship in England, yet well approved generally by our [...]. And surely for People of contrary Principles and Spirits, and having a contrary Faith & Perswasion, in Fundamental Doctrines, [Page 19] to be united together in one Worship, would make the greatest Con­fusion imaginable, and be incomparably more like Babylon than the true Church of Christ; and so to affirm is contrary to all common sense of any that hath the least true Notion of a Church, that ought to be as a Field or Garden, as clean of Weeds as possible; for tho' the T [...]res are to be suffered to grow in the Field of the World, yet they are not to remain in the Church, according to Christs Doctrine. [...] at this rate, the Weeds shall remain with the good Corn and Herbs [...]n [...]he same Garden, yea, and exceed them, that cannot but greatly [...] good Corn and Herbs. Beside, how can the Gardner delight in such a Garden that is full of Weeds, and no care to seperate the good Herbs from the Weeds. And tho' it hath been said by some, That as the faithful stand in the Power of God, they shall have dominion over the unfaithful; but we find no warrant or promise, that God will give them Dominion, if they obey not his Command, which is To Seperate and with-draw from such; and not to remain in fellowship with them, for what part hath a Believer with an Infidel? 2 Cor. 6.15.17.

The Names of some of the Friends that gave the aforesaid Judgments at the said monthly Meeting the 27 of 12 Mon. 1691.
  • George Hutcheson,
  • Paul Saunders,
  • Iohn Lynam,
  • Ralph Iackson,
  • Phillip Iames,
  • Richard Hillyard,
  • Anthony Sturge [...],
  • Thomas Peart,
  • Thomas Tress,
  • Iohn Loftus,
  • William Harwood,
  • Iames Chick,
  • Thomas Morris,
  • Iohn M cc Comb,
  • Iohn Hutchins,
  • Iames Cooper,
  • Thomas Winn,
  • Iohn Hart,
  • Anthony Taylor,
  • Abel Noble,
  • Nicholas Pearce,
  • Iohn Furnis,
  • Iohn Redman,
  • Iohn Williams,
  • Ralph Ward,
  • William Dyllwin,
  • Iohn Duploveys▪
  • Iohn Budd,
  • William Bradford,
  • William Paschall,
  • Ioseph Willcox,
  • Thomas Budd,
  • Thomas Hooton,
  • Thomas Paschall,
  • Humphry Hodges,
  • Henry Furnis,
  • Simercy Adams,
  • Robert Waliis,
  • Thomas Ienner,
  • William Davis,
  • Francis Cook,
  • Henry Iohnson,
  • Ioseph Walter,
  • Hugh Derborough,
  • William Say,
  • William Hard,
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Postscript.

WE have seriously considered, how that of late Years espe­cially many are crept into a bare out-side Form of the Pro­fession of the People of God, called in Scorn Quakers, and have assumed or suffered themselves to be called by that Name, and have frequented not only their Publick Meetings, but also their men and womens mea­nings, and have taken upon them to act and be concerned in these mee­tings, and some have presumed to preach and pray therein, that to our certain knowledge, by manifest evidence of Words and Works, are not worthy to be reputed members of a Christian Society or Church of Christ, because of their great Ignorance and Unbelief in the first Principles of the Doctrine of Christ, whereof some here-away of late have given sufficient proof, to the great Scandal of our holy Profes­sion, by their plain and express words uttered before divers credible Witnesses, and sometimes by their unsound Doctrines published, and g [...]oss Perversions of Scripture, to the Observation of many who are but of weak understanding, and some of them have been detected of scandalous Conversation, and have not given any convincing Evidence of their true Repentance, and that there hath been too much forbear­ance used by some toward such, for their hardning and emboldning themselves against the Truth and faithful Friends and Brethren, and that by the marvellous Providence of God that hath suffered such things to come to light, some have discovered their woful Ignorance, Unbelief and gross Errors by their late words, without all shame or [...]ea [...], and that some others have appeared too manifestly inclined to [...]loak, excuse and support them, which giveth us too great occasion to suspect them guilty of the same, or the like things; and that things are come to that pass of late, that contrary Testimonies are born in meetings by —one against another, and yet both pretending to the Spirit of Truth; and great Disputes and Contentions have been of late betwixt— one against another, before not only many called Quakers, but some others that never were of that Profession, & that concerning several Fundamental and Principal Doctrines of the [Page 21] Christian Faith, as first, Whether we are only to believe in Christ the Light within us, or whether we are to believe both in Christ within us, as he is Light and Life, and also in Christ without us, as he dyed for our sins, rose again, and is ascended, as he was that great Sacrifice of Attonement for our sins, and is our high Priest and Mediator, and Advocate with the Father for us in Heaven? 2dly, Whether to preach Faith in Christ within, and Faith in Christ without us, be to preach Two Christs, or one only Christ Iesus, the measure of Christ within us, and the fullness of Christ without us, in the Man Christ Iesus, being One Lord Iesus Christ, as the Light of the Sun that is in the Body of the Sun in fullness, and the measures of it that come into our Eyes, are but one Light and one Sun, and as the Life that is in the Root and Branches of a Tree, is but one Life, the fullness being in the Root, and the measures in the Branches. 3dly, Whether it be a Doctrine necessary to be preached, and believed to make a Christian viz. throughly and intirely in all necessary parts,) to believe in Christ without us, as he is true and perfect God, and true and perfect Man, &c. 4thly, Whether Christ hath now any thing in Heaven that he had not before the World was? or Whether Christ's Body that was crucified and nailed to the Cross, and was buried, did rise again, and is ascended into Heaven? Some Questioning, Whether it rose? some saying, It rose, but after it ascended into the Cloud, Christ was seperated from it: Some saying, It was no part of the Virgins Substance, or of mans Nature that ascended into Heaven; and one saying, He had not yet learned that Lesson, whether that which was crucified without us, was the Godhead, or some-what that he took of the Virgin; others saying, This is a Nicity, and to be ignorant of such a thing, or not to believe such a thing, doth not hinder but that [...] man may be a true Christian, and a Minister of Christ. 5thly, Some accusing and charging some of their Brethren as dividing Christ, be­cause they preach Faith in Christ both without us in the fullness, and within us in the measure: Others justly charging them, Than they who preach only Christ as within, do divide Christ in a false and wrong Notion of him. 6thly, Some accusing their Brethren for denying the sufficiency of the Light within to Salvation, because they preach, That the Sufficiency of the Light within [...] not to be set up in Opposition to the Sufficiency of the Man Christ without us, in whom the Fullness is, as if the measure within us were the whole Saviour, excluding the Man Christ without us; and also because they distinguish betwixt the first Ministration of Light common to all mankind, and the second that is peculiar and special [Page 22] only to true Christians, or such who have the Faith of Christ crucified, &c. revealed to them, both these ministrations, with all other diver­sity of Operations and Gifts coming from one God, one Lord, and one Spirit, who is over all, through all and in all, Eph [...]s. 4.6. And also, because they cannot set up the present measure of Light and Grace to be sufficient for all time to come, but exhort men to wait and pray in the help of the present measure of Grace received, to receive more Grace from him, who hath the fullness of it, even the man Christ Iesus. And lastly, that they cannot set up the Sufficiency of the Light within in opposition to the necessary and great outward helps and means of Salvation, such as the holy Scriptures, and Preaching, and Teaching of faithful men. And beside these great Questions and Disputes that have happened among us, there have been others concerning the Resurrection of the Dead, and Day of Iudgment, as, Whether the Saints have got the Resurrection of the Body already? or Whether they get it immediately after Death? or Whether they wait for it generally unto Christs Coming? and Whether Christ is to come without us, to judge the Quick and the Dead? and Whether there is any Day of Iudgment beyond the Grave? and Whe­ther there is any great and general Day of Iudgment that the deceased are in expectation of? And this is but a hint of these things that have been in Question & Debate amongst us here-away in Pennsilvania and West-Iarsey, &c. to which many other great & weighty things of Christian Faith and Doctrine do so necessarily relate, that they stand or fall to­gether. And it is no small grief and wound to us to find some so little concerned about these things, as if they were not so material as to cause any just Seperation or Breach of Fellowship, when we know, that for less Errors many of us have seperated from other Professions; and we cannot but declare before the World, our godly Zeal moveth us to a holy Impatience, that we cannot longer bear (some of us having born the weight of these things for many months) such gross Ignorance and Unbelief, and gross Errors, tending to the denying the Lord that bought us, and making void his Death and Sufferings, without bear­ing witness against them, who either hold them or support and defend them; and we are convinced and perswaded in our Consciences, that God calleth us to seperate from such Unbelievers, and not to be yoked together in Church-fellowship and Discipline with any that we have not proof of by Confession of the mouth, that they are sound in Faith, touching these necessary and Fundamental parts of Christian Doctrine, [Page 23] as well as that their Conversation is such as becometh the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. And we have been so much grieved with the Confusion and Disorder that hath lately happened in our Meetings be­cause of these things, (more like Babylon than a Church of Christ) that we have great clearness and peace in the Lord, to retire and se­perate from such disorderly Walkers and Talkers, as we have formerly done from other Professions, to meet together in the Name of Christ, having the true Faith of him, and of his Promise, To be spiritually present in the midst of us, and to wait upon him, and be refreshed and edified, whether in Silence or any living Testimony of words that God shall be pleased to enable any among us to bring forth. Yet we design not any Seperation from our Faithful Brethren here or any where else in any part of the World; for we declare, we are one with all our faithful brethren in all parts of the World, both in Spirit, Do­ctrine and Practice of true Christianity; and we faithfully believe, that our Faith in all things doth well agree to all our faithful Brethren every where, and is the real, sound and upright Faith, as it hath been recei­ved, not only by Antient Christians, in all Ages of the World, but also by the most sound Antient and Present Friends of Truth, called in scorn Quakers. And we altogether deny and disown to be called the Disciples or Proselites of man or men, being spiritually baptized into no other Name than that of Christ Jesus, who was crucified for us and rose again, and whose Disciples and Followers we only desire to be, and to follow none but as they follow him.

Some Testimonies taken out of R. Barclay's Book, called, The Anarchy of the Ran [...]e [...]s, &c. well approved by good Friends generally in England and else-where.

1st. Concerning Doctrines and Fundamental [...] of the Chri­stian Faith, he saith, p. 29. The Doctrines and [...]damental Principles o [...] the Christian Faith, we own and believe, originally and principally because they are the Truths of God, whereunto the Spirit of God is our Hearts hath constrained our Vnderstandings to obey and submit to, &c. and in p. 52. he again expresly mentioneth Fundamental Principles & Doctrines [...] the Christian Faith. [N [...]e, By this it appeareth, that sound Friends do [Page 24] own that there are Fundamental Principles of the Christian Faith, altho [...] divers of that Party that is now seperate from us, said some time ago in a Monthly Meeting (as divers can testifie) in contradiction to G. K. That the [...]e was but one Principle of Truth, viz. the Light; and G.K. proving the contrary both from Scripture and Friends Books, that mentioneth Principles; one replyed, There was b [...]t one Fundamental Principle, and yet here R.E. mentioneth Fundamental Principles, that argueth more than one; for tho' there is but one Foundation Truth, which is Christ Iesus, yet there are divers Fundamental Principles of Truth, i. e. such as do necessarily belong to the Foundation, that with­out the Faith of them a man cannot be said to be a true Believer or real Christian.]

2dly. Concerning the Church, he giveth this Definition of it, p. 32. A Church then in the Scripture-phrase, is no other than a Meeting or Ga­thering of certain People, which (if it be taken in a Religious Sense, as most commonly it is) are gathered together in the Belief of the same Principles, Doctrines and points of Faith, whereby, as a Body, they become distinguish­ed from others, and have a certain relation among themselves, and a conjunct Interest to the maintaining and propogating these Principles they judge to be right, and therefore have a certain Care and Oversight over one another, to prevent and remove all occasions that may tend to break this their conjunct Interest, hinder the Propogation of it, or bring Infamy, Contempt or Con­tumely upon it, or give such as on the other hand are or may be banded toge­ther to undo them, just occasion against them, to decry and defame them. [Note, This is the present case with us, and therefore to prevent Truth and faithful Friends being defamed by Adversaries, we are weightily concerned in this publick Testimony.] And a little after p. 33. he saith, The Power and Authority, Order and Government we speak of, is such a Church, Meeting, Gathering or Assembly claims towards those that have or do Declare themselves members, who own, believe and profess the same Doctrines and Principles of Faith with us, and go under the same Distinction and Denomination, whose Escapes, Faults and Errors may by our Adversaries justly be imputed to us, if not seasonably and chri­stianly reproved, reclaimed, or condemned, &c. And p. 34. he saith, We being a People gathered together by the Power of God, into the Belief of certain Principles and Doctrines, and also certain Practices & Performances, by which we [...] be seperated and distinguished from others, so as to [...] a part. And p. 48. he saith, The Principles, Doctrines and Practices [Page 25] necessarily depending upon them (viz. into the Belief of which we were gathered by the Power of God) are as it were the Terms that have drawn us together, and the Bond by which we became centered into one Body and Fellowship, and distinguished from ot [...]ers; and yet this not so the Bond, but (see his margen) that we have a more inward and invisible, to wit, the Life of Righteousness, &c. And p. 49. he saith, Suppose a People really gathered into the Belief of the true and certain Principles of the Gospel, if any of these People shall arise, and contradict any of those Fundamental Truths, [Note, That he owneth Fundamental Truths, and therefore according to him and sound Friends, there are more than one Funda­mental Truth, altho' Christ the original Truth is but one, yet the Branches are many] whether has not such as stand good right to cast [...] a one out from among them, and to pronounce possitively, This is con­trary to the Truth we profess and own, and therefore ought to be re­jected, and not received, nor yet he that asserts it, as one of us: And is not this Obligatory upon all the members, seeing all are concerned in the like Care, as to themselves, to hold the right and shut out the wrong? And p. 52. If the Apostles of Christ of Old, and the Preachers of the Ever­lasting Gospel in this Day, had told all People, however wrong they found them in their Faith and Principles, Our Charity and Love is such, we dare not judge you, nor seperate from you, but let us all live in love to­gether, and every one enjoy his own Opinion, and all will be well; how should the Nations have been, or what way now can they be brought to Truth and Righteousness? Would not the Devil love this Doctrine well, by which Darkness and Ignorance, Error and Confusion might still continue in the Earth, unreproved and uncondemned? And again, in the same p. 51, 52. he saith, Were such a Principle to be received or believed, That in the Church of Christ No man should be seperated from, no man condemn­ed, or excluded the Fellowship and Communion of the Body, for his Judgment or Opinion in matter of Faith, Then what Blasphemies so Horrid, what Heresies so Damnable, what Doctrines of Devils, but might harbour it self in the Church of Christ? &c. And p. 78, 79. he saith, (giving some of the Differences betwixt the Romanists, and the ge­nerality of these called Protestants, on the one hand, and the People called Quakers on the other hand) That whereas those in matters of Dif­ference only allow these of the Clergy, so called, i. e. the Ministry, to give a Iudgment, with other select Persons chosen, The People called Quakers exclude no member of the Church to give his Iudgment: And 2dly, Those [Page 26] say, The Decision is to pass Conclusive by Plurality of Votes; which, as he saith, the Quakers do not, but allow that at times the plurality may be wrong, and the few may be right. And p. 81. he saith, If so be in such a Church (viz. as above described) there should arise any Difference, there will be an Infallible Iudgment from the Spirit of God, which may be in a general Assembly, yet not limited to it, as excluding others, and may prove the Iudgment of the plurality, yet not to be decided thereby, as if the Infallibil [...]ty were placed there, excluding the fewer, in which a Meeting or Assembly upon such an account, there is no Limitation to be of Persons par­ticularly chosen, but that all that in a t [...]ue Sense may be reckon'd of the Church, as being sober and weighty, may be present, and give their Iudgment, &c. And p. 85. he saith, This Infallible Iudgment is only and unalterably an­nexed and seated in the Spirit and Power of God, not to any particular Person or Persons, Meeting or Assembly, by virtue of any settled Ordina­tion, Office, Place or Station, that such may have, or have had in the Church; No Man, Men nor Meeting, standing or being invested in any Authority in the Church of Christ, upon [...]ther Terms, than so long as he or they abide in the living Sense and Vnity of the Life in their own particulars.

ANd further, whereas the said Breach and Seperation hath made a great Noise, and many false Reports are spread abroad concern­ing the same, many greatly blaming G. K. and the rest joyned with him in that Testimony against the false and unsound Doctrines of some that go under the Profession of Truth, These are to let all sober People and Friends know, that it is our great and earnest desire to be united, and have the Breach effectually made up, and in order thereunto we have made Proposals to them, which they have not answered. And on the 14th of the 3d Month, 1692. some of us being with the two Old England Friends, that lately came to visit us, and relating to them something concerning the said Seperation, and what Offers and Pro­posals we had made to them, which they said were very reasonable, and many being present that approved thereon, we got a Meeting with them, but the matter for which the Meeting was procured, not suffer­ed to be entred upon, and that Meeting passed over; but still it was our desire to agree and unite, and therefore desired them appoint an­other Meeting, which they said they would consider of, but not hear­ing from the [...], as expected, we sent this following Letter, which hath not been answered.

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Friends, [...].— & A.—&c.

WHereas we being in Company yesterday morning with T.W. and J.D. discoursing something concerning the late Breach here at Philadelphia, and several Friends coming in, we told, That it was proposed at the Meeting of publick Friends at Burlington, That let us but ag [...]ee in Principles of Doctrine, and all other Personal Reflections and Differences should be buried, and that we still proposed the same; which the Friends said was very reasonable; and many others being present, said, That they did not question but that all that were concerned would consent thereto, and be ready to imbrace such an opportunity; and they desired us to draw into writing the said Proposals, which we did thus, viz. 1st. That both Parties should draw up into writing an account of their sincere Faith and [...]lief in the Principles of the Christian Doctrine: 2dly, That a time and place should be appointed for all honest Friends to meet together to hum [...]e themselves before the Lord, and in a sence of h [...] P [...]wer and [...] to read, weigh and consider the said Principle [...], and see if we could agree therein: 3dly, That when we were agreed therein, all Personal Reflections should be passed by and forgiven: 4thly, That all such as have given offence, and hurt the Truth by their unsound Expressions, be brrught to a Conviction of their Error. Which Proposals, all the Friends that were present well approved of; but when it came to you, ye thought that a more private Meeting of Friends of the Ministry, in the first place, would best answer to put things into a method for a more publick con­clusive Meeting; The agreement and conclusion of which was, That all Friend [...] of the Ministry in Town present should meet, and an equal Number of our side. At the time appointed we all met at S. E's, and things were pretty fairly debated, but the matter proposed not come to; therefore it is our desire, in the behalf of the rest of our Friends, that another meeting [...] appointed to morrow, and where we left off last night to begin, and so orderly proceed to weigh and consider of some Principles of Christian Doctrine, to see if we can come to agree and unite in Doctrine and Spirit, and so the Breach [...]e made up; and though it be a time of much outward business, yet we are willing to prefer so weighty a concern of Truth beyond all outward and temporal Affairs, and hope you will do the like: The Reason w [...]y we would have it to morrow, is, because many Friends are in Town now that may help to accomodate things, and we know not when there may be the like Opportunity again. We desire your answer this night or to morrow morning.

T. B. W. B.
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After this, being informed that some at their Meetings had pro­nounced great Woes against us, and laid the Seperation upon us, as the cause of it, and prophecyed of [...]ur down-fall, as other Seperatists have withered and come to nothing, which greatly strengthened our Oppo­sers, G. K. and his Friends found great freedom to go to their After­noons Meeting on the 22 of 3 month, and there he [...]ore a faithful Te­stimony in the Power of the Lord, which some of his opposers acknow­ledged did attend him; after which, he told, That the occasion of his and his Friends being there, was also to signifie their desire to have the [...] made up, and to be united to that Meeting, and that he and his Friends had unity with the most there, as to the main, as also with a [...]l faithful Friends every where else, and did frequent their Meetings in the Country; but for the sake of some in this Meeting, that were unsound, which did both preach and pray among them, and they wou [...]d not suffer them to be brought to Conviction of their Error, m [...]de u [...] not free to m [...]et with them. And also to propose, that where­as some among them had lately judged us, that we thought it very [...] unchristian that any should judge us before they had heard, [...] and dealt with us, and therefore desired that a Meeting might be appointed to morrow or on third day, to have things fairly debated, that it might be known where the cause of the Seperation lay; but no Meeting was allowed of or appointed. Whereupon G.K. and [...] Friends went away to their own Meeting, and after the other Mee [...]ing was over, two of them came to our Meeting, and opposed G. K. in his publick Testimony, as he had been twice before at other times, tho' he has never opposed any of them in their publick Te­stimony. The reason why we give this short Relation, is, because it is already represented as if G. K. came to their publick Meeting to oppose and make disturbance the [...]e, which G.K. saith, the Searcher of [...], was not in the least his intent (as neither he did) but to [...]ar a faithful Testimony, as it should please the Lord to assist him, and to signif [...]e his and his Friends de [...]ire of Unity, and to request a [...] with them, that it might be known where the Cause of the Seperation lay, but neither thi [...], no [...] our former Proposals being im­braced, [...] fo [...]d it greatly necessary to make [...]his publick, to pre­vent false Reports, which a [...]e many, and to let it be known, that the Cause and Continuance of the Seperation lye [...]h at their door.

Signed in behalf of many others, by
  • Thomas [...], H [...]n [...]y F [...]nis,
  • George Keith, John Hart,
  • Richard Helliard
  • Thomas Hooton.

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