THE CHRISTIAN A QUAKER THE QUAKER A CHRISTIAN DEMONSTRATED In a Letter to a most Worthy Person in this City, giving Answer to the little Book lately Published, and now Re-printed, Entituled, A Dialogue between a Christia [...] and a Quaker.

Whereunto is added a Post-script t [...] the Reader.

Vir bonus Cajus Sejus malus tantum quia Christianus. Tertul.

London, Printed. 1674.

THE CHRISTIAN A QUAKER, THE QUAKER A CHRISTIAN.

SIR,

AS I have at sundry times upon divers and distink Occasions, visited you, and finding Favour and [Page 2] Acceptance with you, I have thought meet at this time, to present you with some brief, and general Animadver­sions on the little Book, lately Pub­lished, called, A Dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, which at first I marvelled at, especially at this time and season.

Indeed I heard some few Weeks before, by a very good and sober Per­son, That there was such an one, as the Author of this Book seems to be, [...]as then writing to this purpose: but he spake it thus; That it was to prove the Quakers to be no Christi­ans. He told me the name of the Man, which I remember I had some knowledge of. He olso told me, who encouraged and countenanced him in it. Some of great Name in this City, who also have heretofore ap­peared in like manner, against the [Page 3] forenamed People: but his Name I will not mention.

There was one remarkable Passage I was enformed of, touching the Author of the Book, viz. What befel him in the Writing of it, which he related thus. as from his own mouth.

As I was (said he) Wtiting, and making it ready, That Scrip­ture, 1 John 2.27. came in my way, and so stumbled me, that I was ready to lay the business quite aside. The words are these; But the Anointing, which ye have received of him, abideth in you. And ye need not, that any man teach you, but as the same Anoint­ing teacheth you of all things, and is Truth, and is no Lye.

But here he at length (as he said) [Page 4] taking Counsel of his Pillow, got o­ver this Scripture, or laid it quite by; for I do not remember I find it in his Book.

SIR, Let this serve but for a Preface.

TOuching the Book it self, I shall chiefly take notice of the Title, and shall make but this Observation of it; That if it be but transposed, and the order of the the words inverted (and so make the Author, who intends himself by the Christian, to be the Quaker, and the Quaker indeed to be the true Christian, and so invert or transpose the whole Dialogue throughout) the Book may pass for a Book of some good Informa­tion.

This matter indeed to me is plain, and evident: that the Christian [Page 6] throughout this book, is the Quaker, and the Quaker the Christian.

For evidence and demonstration of the first, why I say, the Christi­an (so called) is more truly to be termed a Quaker, is, because in my eye, and belief, he bears the simili­tude and likeness, throughout the Book, of a Jew, not he (I mean) who is one inwardly, whose praise is not of Men, but of God; but he that is a Jew in the other sense of the Scripture a Jew (that is) a Pro­fessor of the Letter only, such a one, as was even Paul himself, whiles Saul, a well meaning Zealot (as the Lan­guage now is) here, the Body of the Jews stuck, and here they abide, even to this very hour: for they stumbled at the very same stumbling-stone. The Jews are the Professors of Christ (that is of the Messias) as well as those called by the common [Page 7] name of Christians; and the ground, upon the matter, of this their Pro­fession, is much of the same kind.

The Jews have of a long time been expecting their Messiah with­out them, but however, he is not (as they confess) as yet come unto them, so that they rather expect to be Christians, but are not such as yet.

The Christians, that common­ly bear that name, say, the Messias was in times past among his Disci­ples, and Followers, but he is since that, ascended, and gone out of their sight; but though he be not for the present with them, or among them, they yet expect his return: so they are in expectation of him, as well as the Jews. The name Christian, I would only be called by, as prefer­ing it, above all other names, pro­vided [Page 8] there be cause, and ground, why I should be so called. Th [...]re are three sorts of them, that are so called.

1. Such as have the true reason, and ground of that name, that same [...], that anointing, which is truth, and no lye, in themselves. To these Christ is come, and in them lives; but such for the most part, that are indeed so, are rarely called so; but by some other names of reproach, among which, perhaps, nay without doubt this name of Quaker is one.

2. The second sort of People, called Christians, are such Christians, as this Author seems to be, even zea­lous, well-meaning Zealots (as they write and talk now adays) zealous after, and according to the Letter on­ly: as zealous for outward things, relating to the Christians; as the [Page 9] Jews were of old, and even at this day. The outward Sabbath, the outward Sermon, the outward Word and Meetings, the outward Forms of Baptism, and the Supper: Christ without them, long ago, not yet come to them. Upon these outwardnesses, they stand, build, hope and trust: as the Jews of old did, upon their outward forms, of Persons, and Ser­vices: as Moses, the Sabbath, Cir­cumcision, the Temple, &c. And because of their Zeal to these things: They Crucified Christ, Stoned Ste­phen, and did as great mischief to the followers of them, as was possible: yea they thought, they did God good service, to kill them.

But who have been the imitators of them in our days, to speak nothing now of the times before?

1. In O. E. Was there not a way [Page 10] found out by devout men, in their Ignorance and Zeal, after the Letter, not only to imprison, but to Stigma­tise some, for Blasphemers, which were indeed found to be true Christi­ans; and you may remember, what was done to these people, in the days of O. P. Who told the great Assem­bly then, there were a certain despi­cable People, who like the Serpent, nibled at the Heel of the Govern­ment, of whom yet, there was no great cause of fear, meaning this very People, against whom, Laws obliquely were made, cruel, and bad, and accordingly put in execu­tion; but these People proved in­deed (as was suggested) Jacob's (i. e.) Supplanters of that Generation of Men, that were only right and pure in their own eyes.

Let me also remember you a lit­tle of the sufferings of J. N. of­ten mentioned in this Book, a mat­ter, will never be forgotten. The whole power then of E. yea, of S. and J. which did then consist of Per­sons chosen, as was supposed of the most wise, and able, out of the three Nations, all, or most of them of the highest note, of this sort of Pro­fessors: they sate on his Tryal and Examination, no less than thirteen days, without any intermission: ma­king an Order, that nothing else should intervene, till the business of J. N. should be ended; and then at last, having upon the mat­ter, found little or nothing against [Page 12] him,Although it's true that the greatest part of his Friends, called Qua­kers, were dissatisfied, and troubled, concern­in him; as looking on him then clouded, and to have given advantage to the persecuting Spi­rit, by his being too Passi [...]e, in not rejecting, or testifying against a few shatter-brain'd silly Women, who foolishly too mmch admired him; how-be-it he afterward coming to some sence thereof cond [...]mn'd it, But this did not spring from the Barbarous actions of his Persecutors (who unjustly design­ed to bring an Odium upon the Quakers) but from a secret Con­viction of truth in him­ [...]elf. did yet sentence him to be Whipt at the Carts-t il, from Westminster, to the Old Exchange in Cornhill; and there on a Scaf­fold, raised to that purpose, in the presence of many thousands, was Stigmatised with an hot Iron, and his Tongue bored through with the same: yea after that, to Ride with his Face towards the Horse-tail, into Bristol; and after all, kept a close Prisoner in Bridewell, in London for a long time; yet there were not a few, [Page 13] wise, and good men, Witnesses and Assertors of his Innocency. These, and such like, were the Acts of de­vout men in O. E.

2. But in N. E. They did much after the same sort, or worse, as did appear in their Severities, and Cru­elties against Samuel Gort [...]n, and those with him, Roger Williams, and those with him; the Woman Hutchinson, and divers like minded with her; and at length, to some of the People called Quakers, of whom some were put to death, which yet was never in these last days done in O. E.

Thus, SIR, you see the Reason, why these sort of Christians, may well be termed Jews: i. e. Professors, zea­lous of the Letter only, and the things without. Of these evils of theirs, I have not yet heard that they have repented, but go on wiping their [Page 14] mouths, and talking as if all know­ledg of Heavenly things were only found with them.

Sad was that word of the Psalmist, spoken to those Jews of old, Bow down their backs always. Let their Ta­ble become a snare, &c. fulfilled upon them in all ages: whom to debase is Gods design, for they are in that mu­table st [...]te, that is changable, and must pass away, as it is said of the first Heaven and first Earth.

And this is the second Reason, why I say, that this Author, who calls himself a Christian, is more meet to be called a Jew; and there­fore a Quaker; because he, and those of like mind with him, stand yet up­on that Mount, to which it doth ap­pertain to Quake, Shake, and be Re­moved. At the sight of this Moses himself, and all the outward Carnal [Page 15] Israel trembled exceedingly: inso­much, that the people prayed, that Moses, and not God might speak unto them.

Hence, SIR, I do not deny, but the name of Quaker did arise; for they were come to the Law of God, and that not in the Letter only, but in the life and sense of the full extent of it, feeling and undergoing the Judg­ment and Condemnation of it, where­by all their outward hopes and Con­fidence in the flesh, or outward things, Services, or knowledges of things remote, and at a distance from them, fell from them as the untimely fruits of Fig-trees, shaken with the Wind: I my self have seen many in this state; but was so far from finding fault with it, that it gladded my heart exceedingly to behold. It is the first step towards the Kingdom of Heaven. That I doubt not to say, it were hap­py, [Page 16] not only for this Author, but for this whole Nation, especially for those of his mind, if they were come into this Quaking, Trembling Shaking State: As I believe in God, they will and must. That that which cannot be shaken may come instead. Read Mal. 4.4, 5, 6. compared with Heb. 12. the last.

And this is the Reason why I judge this Author, is rather to be termed a Quaker than a Christian, because he is in such a state that must pass away, and be removed: Whereof he more than seems to have an inward sense and fear, as he manifests sufficiently by his clamour; for if his own House, or Building were sure, firm and safe, what need he fear, as he doth, the shaking of it?

3. There are a third sort of men, that will needs be called Christians [Page 17] too, that are most of all unworthy of it, and most of all remote from being so; that live the life rather of Beasts, than Men, much less Christians, that not only live in, but glory in their Heathenism and Prophaness; Men of corrupt minds, debauch'd and wicked men, whose glory is their shame, whose God is their belly; who wholly mind earthly and perishable things; and even in word, make a mock of all appearance of Religion: yet even many of those are more mild and mer­ciful to the first sort of Christians, than those last described, As the Gen­tiles of old, that were of such sort of men, heard that very word gladly, that was rejected of the devout Jews, and persecuted by them whence 'tis said that Joseph fled with the young Child Jesus, and his Mother into Aegypt from the Jews; as Joseph in the Type, did from his Brethren. And 'tis said, Out of Aegypt have I called my [Page 18] Son. It is safer to have ones Conver­sation among the unclean, loose and Prophane men, than with the petu­lent, angry, fierce and cruel, such as the Apostle bids beware of. And if you will receive it, this is the earth that many times helps the Woman, the Persecuted and afflicted Church. For this cause Christ was accounted by the Pharisees, as a Friend of Publicans and Sinners.

2. But Secondly, It is to me appa­rent, that he whom this Author, in his book makes to bear the name of Christian. The Christian I first descri­bed, and I will give you for it these following Reasons.

1. He is said to have God Essenti­ally with him, yea in him: and that this God is Christ himself, and the Holy Spirit. And this is the Light within, and this Light is God, or Christ, or the Spirit; yea, [Page 19] that this Light is in every man. But how? not manifest in all men alike. 'Tis indeed in all men, as a Treasure hid in the field of mans heart; found of some, others must dig for it before they find it. 'Tis the Light that shin­eth in the Darkness, which the Dark­ness comprehendeth not: for how can it, it being the only obscurity of it, or that which obscureth it? And what is this Darkness? surely no o­ther than Sin, Error, and unbelief, &c. The Light is that of which Saint Peter speaks, A Light that shineth in the dark corner of mans heart. To which every man shall do well to give heed.

There is no word so frequent among these People as this, the Light within: not but that it hath other names, yea, without number; but this seems for good reason to have the precedency: Why? because it gives Light to all the [Page 20] rest. The late Assembly of Divines (so called) having undertook to give a Description of God and his Attri­butes omitted this, God is Light, John 1.1. which some Learned and Wiser Men than they, took notice of, with some reflection. This Light doth An­teced, and must be first. And there­fore of old time, they that were Bap­tised, whether into the name of the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit; i. e. into the nature of either, were termed Illuminati, Enlightned men; for so is the coming of the Lord, in e­very degree of his appearing: as Lightning, which shines from one part of the Heaven, in the heart of man, to the other.

Now by this Light, which is God himself, God manifests himself, and that in us, even in as many as give heed unto it, and follow the guidance of it, so that in process of time (mor­tifying [Page 21] in us what is opposed unto it) our whole man is not only Luminous, but Lumen, Light it self. Ye were Darkness, (saith the Apostle) but now ye are Light in the Lord. And thus Man becomes the Living Temple of the Living God, and the Living God a Living Temple to him: I, and my Father (saith Christ) are one: not unus, but unum, saith Beza, That they all (speaking farther of his Disciples and followers) may be unum, one thing. God one thing with Christ, and Christ one thing with the Father in them, that are one Spirit with him; that so it may come to pass (as most right it is) that God in us be all in all.

This without all doubt (that so be­lieves and feels) is the Christian, whom this Author wrongfully, if not worse, calls Quaker.

2. I will add but one Reason more, [Page 22] which yet I have hinted already, why the name of a Christian doth most properly belong to him, whom this Author calls Quaker: not only from the Anointing, of which I spake be­fore; but from a more particular con­sideration of the name Christian. It is said in the Acts of the Apostles, that the Disciples were called Christians first at Antioch, which was (as some think) then the Seat of War, or a Garison Town: here the Disciples of Jesus, first set up their Banner; and being concerned in another, a more Heavenly Warfare, were there first called [...], that is to say, Christs Asses. This I find expressed in a cer­tain Learned Author be­yond the Seas, [...] Asses. [...] Christ's Asses. which I read and translated above twenty years ago. The Title of the Book was, Argumen­tum Theologicum, de non gerendo gla­dio materiali, in Republica Christiana, [Page 23] which is the opinion and mind of these People that are commonly cal­led Quakers, well they may be, and sometimes have been beaten by Arm­ed Men; but they take up, nor use no such Weapons at all, as all the rest of the outward Christian World; yea, and those that profess themselves the Churches; and most manifestly and prodigiously at this day do those they call Protestants, (a reformed sort of Christians so accounted) warring one against another, not only of late here in this Land; but shamefully at this day beyond the Sea, confedera­ting with their professed Enemies: so they heretofore reputed the Roman Catholicks; yea, they also, mutually one against the other, which their most Holy Father (as they call the Pope of Rome) either overlooks, or wants Power, or Skill to prevent. All which turns to the scandal of the Christian Religion, both among Jews, Turks, and Infidels.

But these [...], whom this Au­thor calls Quakers, walk by a better Rule: for if they receive a blow on the one Cheek, they turn to them that give it, the other also, (so they profess) patiently undergoing all manner of Affronts, Persecutions, Reproaches, and Revilings, return­ing not evil for evil, according to the Commandment of the everlasting God, so that they may truly enough be termed [...]. Christs Asses: so I find an antient Learned Author (Guliel. Paris) explaining that Text: go saith Christ to such a place, to his Disciples, and you shall find an Ass tyed, with a Colt, the Foal of an Ass bring them to me, and if the owner say, what do ye? tell him, the Master hath need of them; this he In­terprets of, first the Jew, which was the Ass tyed viz. to outward obser­vations; but secondly the Colt, the Foal of the Ass, of the Gentiles, who [Page 25] were solute, and without Law: These (saith Christ) bring to me, as ha­ving need of them to glorifie his name among them both: on these he rides in triumph, as (somtimes he did in a Figure) into the Heavenly Jeru­salem, according to the Prophecy of Zachariah, behold your King cometh meekly, Riding upon an Ass, and upon a Colt, the Foal of an Ass: He is just having Salvation, he shall cut off the Charriot, &c. that is, he shall after such a [...]anner cause Warrs to cease in all Lands, which must certainly be, by such sort of Christians as these now described, that bear Christ about with them in their mortal Bo­dies, & for the sake of him alone, they undergo all contradictions of Gain­sayers, following their Lord, as Sa­rah did Abraham, calling him Lord, and are not afraid of any amazement. It was said of old to some in distress at Sea, Caesarem portuunt, having Caesar [Page 26] with them in the Ship, they need not fear: So it may be much more truly said of these, Christum portant, they bear about Christ with them: for so the antient Christians by the old Fa­thers were called Dei-feri, Christi-feri, Sancti-feri, Templi-feri, that they were such that bore about with them, yea in them, God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, and were the living Temples of the living God. This Testimony was given even by Pline to the Chri­stians in his time, that they bore a­bout God in their Consciences; which indeed is no other, than the advice of the Apostle, 1. Cor. 6. ult. Portate igiter Deum in Corpore vestro; Bear or carry God in your Body: So in the Vulgar Latine. I met lately with an antient Citizen a Man of great Integrity, and Honesty, as well as of Note: who told me of the Preacher, late in Bishops-gate-street (lately put to silence by the Bishop [Page 27] of London: of which the cause will be manifest hereafter:) this Man, some call'd a Quaker in a long Gown, the truth is to wonderment, he seem­ed in the spiritual Warfare [...]o allarm the whole City of Professors. Like Gideons Barly Cake, leaping into the Camp of the Midianites (Men of corrupt minds and judgements, as the word seems to import) being as it were asleep in their mistaken judge­ments, and perswasions (as they speak) this Man (said he) Inter­preted the third Commandment to his great content, thus: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; he read it thus: thou shalt not bear, or carry the name of the Lord thy God in vain. Thou shalt bear his name i. e. his Image, Na­ture, and Li [...]eness, and not a bare empty name only, which they that do, do it in vain, and therefore shall not be held guiltless.

This Sir, is the second reason. I might name many more, why these People whom this Author calls Qua­kers, may be more rightly than he, called Christians; but this may suf­fice for a Letter. I will conclude, in giving answer to one great question.

Object. Are the People called Quakers, the only true Christians?

Ans. I say not so, yea God for­bid, that I, or any other, should say so: yet this I will be bold to say their form of words (if rightly weighed) have compared with others, the bet­ter savor, being for the most part, the words of God, and the holy Scrip­ture, which yet (I confess) may be prostitued to an evil mind, and som­times are. I wish it be not found so in some of these, as well as other Peo­ple. I am sure it hath so hapned.

[Page 29]1. Heretofore among the Jews, who had for a time, the light of truth among them, in the ministration of Moses, and the Law; but they forsook the true light, and life of God among them; but yet to secure their lust, and abominable sins, they clave to the Letter, and form of words only; and so there was left among them only, the dark, or dead Body of Moses, or the Jews, about which Body, Micha­el contended with the Devil. The Devil would have that dark and dead body, to be the true body of Moses; but Michael (who is interpreted, who is like God) withstood him, make­ing it manifest, by keeping the Com­mandment of God: that Christ and his Apostles, and true followers, were the true (Mistical) body and suc­cessors of Moses, the true Israel (Sur­rogatus Israel) the true body of Moses then, is the true body of Christ (My­stical)

[Page 30]2. But Satan had afterward a new Game to play; and upon other pre­tences, even that of the name of Christ himself: so that there hath ri­sen as great strife in these latter days, touching the true body of Christ (mystical) as of the body of Moses be­fore, that it may be truly said, there is a dark, or dead body of Christ, or Christians: yet no party of Men pro­fessing that name, think, or believe so of themselves; but cast it still upon each other, wringing so the Nose, and forcing it to bleed: that they can­not, as they ought, savor the truth, where e're they find it: for since the day-break of Divine Light and Love, many fell into parties, in sundry pla­ces, and times: some few of them a­bode a while, in some measure of light, exceeding in some Divine truths, many of their foregoers; but when a greater, and a more clear light, was presented to them, and the day [Page 31] coming on, offence was taken, even by them that thought they had attain­ed to the best; and so there came a­gain to be a dark, and dead body left behind in every party: as appears by the stink and filth, proceeding from them, to the great offence of God, and his holy ones; but the morning-light more increasing, more offence was yet taken; yea, this very people have committed that fault: a greater light, more large, and full of Divine Love, hath shined among them, than was among them at their first gather­ing, which many of them dealt not kindly with, but spake evil of that way, as judging nothing better, was yet to come; So that there is even a dead and a dark body of them, resting in the form, and glorying in their out­ward separation from others; and are many of them in the same condem­nation with other parties, being but a party themselves, and so not (as they ought) to be impartial.

The great Adversary of this people hath by disguise done them great hurt, and made spoil of many good things among them. But this is enough for a Letter, and more than, if it should be made publick, I should have thanks for: but this, according to my weak power and skill, I have writ to stand between the Accuser, and the Accu­sed; and some what to alleviate those deep and false Aspertions and Reflect­ions cast upon these innocent people, who have stood their Opposers in so great stead, standing in the front in the time of the hottest Persecution: like men of might, or of God; bear­ing with much long suffering and Pa­tience, all manner of Contumely, Reproach and Contradiction, when these their Opposers hid their head; yet now in the warm Sun of Liberty, unworthily come forth to revile them, and if possible, to continue the Perse­cution against them. This (as the Pro­phet [Page 33] speaks, in like case) they should not do; but rather indeed bow to that meek mind and Spirit among them: for to the meek of the Earth (such are many of them I am well assured) is the Promise made, Mat. 5. These in due time shall be called by another name than hitherto they have been; even the name of the Lord their God, and David their King, (which imports as much as Love and Peace) which God effect, Amen.

But this, and the whole, I leave to your further Observation, and re­main,

SIR,
Your, &c.

Post-script.

MAny years since, when these People were in their greatest Lustre and sufferings, I writ these Verses, or Rhimes of them, which, [Page 34] herewith I send you, shewing the thoughts I then had of them.

Lo what work the dispised Quakers make?
The Heavens and Earth through their Sufferings quake:
Ye sturdy Oaks, and lofty Cedar Trees
This Shrub's more fixt than ye, now all men sees.
Dan's a Serpent, and bites the Horses heels,
The Rider's overturn'd and Judg­ment feels.
A voice was heard in Rama, Weep and Cry,
For Rachel hath her Children lost, and why?
Herod was fell and angry that a King,
Such tydings to him did the Wise-men bring,
Should from the least of Judah's Cities come,
And in the midst of his, have a King­dome.
[Page 35]
A day to judge the Earth is come. The Wise
Men from the East have seen his Star arise.
Ye Shepherds of the mis-informed Flocks
Those are no Gods, but Idol Blocks
Whom ye adore for such. Awake and come
And see, if ye have eyes, the cleanly Room
Where Jesus with his Mother Mary lie
Swaddled up, in the Quakers Mystery:
For who is born, I it avouch and vow
The Oath of God, which none may dis­alow.
No Oath hence-forward, needeth to be sworn,
He that's the Truth of all, is Christ new-borne.

A Post-script to the Reader. By R. B. Ph.

I Must needs confess, that I was greatly surprized with the Report [Page 36] of the Printing of this Letter (such as it is) it being done, wholly with­out my knowledge: When I heard of it, I made search after it; and ha­ving (with some difficulty) got one, I found it the same I had Writ­ten a while since, at the coming forth of that Book it reflects on; and must needs own all in it; except the Errata's in the Printing, and that in the Margin, touching J. N. which I Writ not; which in this second Edition (which the Printer hath thought meet to make) is Corrected.

Obj. 1. But you wi [...]l say, how came it to be Printed?

I answer, having kept a Copy of it, being occasionally in discourse about these People. A certain Per­son (eminent in the World) pro­duced many Papers Writ against them. Another present, whom I never saw before or since, spake ra­ther in favor of them, with whom I concur'd. Upon which, the first be­ing [Page 37] diverted by other Company and discourse, I took occasion to Read it to this latter; who asked me why I did not Print it? I said no; I shall not: but sith it liketh you so well, take it to you; and do with it what you will. And now after two years well nigh, have seen it. (Upon the account of the late Disputes I sup­pose) abroad in Print. But what I have further to say of, and to, this People, as to their present State, Practise, and Conversation; I referr them to the Letter I Writ to them some years since, Inclosed in one to G. R. a principal Man among them, to Communicate to the rest.

Obj. 2. It may be said, you have Writ and Printed heretofore, severe­ly against this People, as in your Preface to Mr. Robert Rich his Letter.

I answer, what I Writ, was in love to them, as therein is sufficiently manifest; though ill resented by some of them: for Love evidenceth [Page 38] it self, as well in sharp Reproofs, Chastisement, and Correction, as in countenancing, cherrishing, and justifying of the Person, Party, or thing it loves. But now upon the review of this Re-Printed Letter, I have thought meet to add to it, in brief.

1. Somwhat touching that menti­oned in the second and third Pages. Where I say, That I had heard before of such a one as this Author seems to be; but I say not, This Author was in­deed he; but such a one: for he that reported it to me, said it was the Preacher at — which since I un­derstood to be J. F. and not— as I supposed, whom I knew. This J. F. hath Writ to the same purpose with J. H. though indeed to little purpose, having, as I since told him (meeting him at the House of a com­mon Friend) gone about, and about, and always without; never touching them, whom he is so greatly offend­ed [Page 39] with. They in their Testimony, remaining, in mean time secure, and safe within, hid (it seems from his eyes) as in the secret of the Almighty.

2. Somwhat further touching the intent and scope of this Letter; which is an Apologie in behalf of the Testimony giver of this People, as though it were Peculiar to them, touching the Light within. That they that profess it, as the Christians of old did, are as they were said to be, Acts 28.11. the Sect that is every where spoken against. I have therefore thought meet to transcribe some Testimonies to it, both Antient and Modern.

1. From those of antient time; and first from those reputed Heathen, because not of the visible, or outward­ly constituted and professing Church, either that of old time of the Jews, or of the Christians since. I find this Paragraph in John Taylor, who flou­rished in Germany about the Year [Page 40] 1346. mentioned with honor by Mr. Fox in his Acts and Monuments, as he at whom Luther first lighted his Candle, yet reproachfully reflected on sometime since, by Mr. B late of Kidm.

Phylosophus quidam Alteri aeque Phyloso­pho dignum Phylosopho sententiam depromp­sit; dicens, percepi quiddam in me resplen­dens intellectui meo, quod equidem aliquid esse experior, sed quid sit inteligere nequeo. Videtur tamen mihi, si id apprehendere possem omnem me veritatem perspecturum; Cui alter ille Philosophus. Hoc ergo inquit Persequere, Certus, quia si apprehendere Potens, bonorum omnium Cumulum, & ipsam quoque Vitam eternam obtinebis. Which is in effect, thus in English A Certain Philosopher, gave forth this Sentence worthy a philoso­pher to another Philosopher like himself, saying, I perceive something shining forth in or to my understanding, some (ex­cellent) thing indeed I find it to be, but what it is I cannot well comprehend, or un­derstand: Yet it seemeth to me, if I were able to comprehend, and understand it, I should attain to the sight and perception of all Truth. To whom, that other Philo­sopher replyed, Follow that on, being assured, that if thou canst attain it, thou [Page 41] shalt reap the whole summe of all good things, even eternall life it self.

Secondly from one of those in the visible and outwardly Constituted Church: as that Father (as they speak) Great St. Austin. Thus in his own words: Sensi quiddam in me resplendens animae meae, quod si perficeretur in me, dicire non dubitarem, id vitam aeternam esse, occultat se, & nihilo­minus manifestat se, furtine venit, quasi omnia animae furaturum, ablatu [...]umque mani­festat se, indicat ex parte, ut per hoc ani­mam alliceat, provocet, & post se trahet, imo & auferat sibi ipsi. In English thus: I have perceived something shining and stir­ring in my mind or Soul; which, if it were perfected, I would not doubt to say, it were eternal Life it self. It hides it self indeed, yet nevertheless it manifests it self: it steals in upon me, as if it would rob me of all that I have in my mind: it discovers it self (first) but in part, that so it may allure, provoke, and draw, yea and take away my mind or soul even quite with it unto it self.

2. Add hereunto the Testimony of some in old time in the visible professing Church, touching some of those without it: As first, That of Clemens Alexandrinus: Thus in [Page 42] Latin; Philosophia Graecos Paedagogi more ducebat, sicut Lex Hebreos ad Christum. Philosophy was the School-mistris to the Greeks or Gentiles, as the Law was to the Jews, leading them both to Christ. 2dly, That of Justin Martyr (so called) because he suffered Martyrdome for the Christian Religion, a very Antient Martyr, in his A­pology for Christians, writes more boldly. Thus; Qui cum ratione vixerunt Christia­ni sunt, etiamsi Athis habiti sint; ut Socra­tes, & Heraclitus apud Graecos. They that live according to the Principles of (Right) Reason, are Christians, though they have been, or may be accounted Atheists; as Socrates, and Heraclitus among the Greeks. Where by Reason (without doubt) this Author means the [...] the Word, John 1.1. which Erasmus and some others translate Ratio, Reason, of which Paul (beyond all) speaks, Rom. 10. saying, even of all men, both Jews and Gentiles, v. 18. What, have they not heard? yes verily: their sound (viz. of the Apostles) is gone forth unto all the Earth, and their words unto the ends of the World. For it reached to and concerned all men, and is indeed every where, though hid from most, because un­regarded, disobeyed, unbelieved, and re­jected of them.

But that I may not be too tedious, I will add but the Testimony of a late Mo­dern Writer, touching this matter, ex­prest in a few Quaeries.

1. Quaer. Whether every man do not find something in him that is pure, which he may perceive to be such, by opposing the evil, and moving to the good, according to that of the Poet, Every man hath some­thing of God in him.

2. Whether that which is pure, which is no other than the Light of Christ, and Spirit of God, ought not to be believed in, followed, and obeyed?

3. Whether our comfort stand ground­ed in the obedience and following of that Light, or that only on which Christ hath done outwardly for us?

4. Whether this Light and Spirit in us can be examined, or tryed by the Letter of the Scripture? Seeing he that is in the Iniquity or sin cannot judge truly of the Spirit, and the things thereof, either by or without the Scripture; but if the same Spirit be in us, which is the Key of the Scripture, then we may examine and judge by the Scriptures, according to our mea­sure and growth, concerning the works of God within us.

[Page 44]5. Whether the New birth in Christ be not two-fold, one after the flesh, and the other after the Spirit, according to the scope of 2 Cor. 5. but this shall suffice.

Conclusion to the Reader. Notwith­standing all this, I do not (I suppose) hereby declare my self to be a Quaker, as having, by the grace of God, no need so to be; neither, as I understand, do these people own that name (at least now) as their proper Stile and Character, being most fixt and established in their belief and Testimony of Jesus. But what I have writ or done, hath been to shew my hope and expectation, which I know is the hope and expectation of all good Christians: That after all these Shakings, according to our daily Prayer, the Kingdom of God, that cannot be shaken may come, (a­mong us, and prevail in us and over us; yea, in and over the whole Land, from the highest to the lowest, wherein and where­by Righteousness and Peace, Truth and Love to the uniting of all in one Lord, and one God, every one in his order and place, may take place, to the consolation of all) Wherefore let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably, with Reverence and Godly fear: for our God is a Consuming fire.

FINIS.

The Reader is desired to correct these gross Mi­stakes in this second Impression.

PAge 18th. l. 14. left out these words after of, add. Quaker ought also of right to bear the name of, Christi- p. 25. line the last, read portant. p. 35. l. 12. [...]nstead of Who read He. in the post-script p. 36. l. 14. should have been added after corrected and left out. for it was appointed by the Author and so expected. that the marginal note touching J. N. should have been wholly left out. p. 39. line 24. for Jo [...] Tay­lor read John Taulerus p. 40. l. 14. for poteur read [...] ­tes. p. 41. l. 10. for furtine read furtive, p. 42. l. 11 for Athis read Athei. in the same page l. 17. put a Coma after where, and l. the 18th. after [...] put the the Word. p. 44. line 12. for most put in more.

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