The Prologue to Mr K.
§. 1.
THough I would not have you restrained from revealing Truth, yet if I had been worthy to have been of your counsell, I should have advised you to have▪ avoided this quarrelsom way. Our world hath Contention enough already; and it comes not from so good a root (Prov. 13. 10.) nor is it so good a symptom, nor doth it produce such lovely effects (Prov. 22. 10. & 17. 19. & 29. 21.) nor doth it bring so good a name (Prov. 21. 24.) as may make it seem desirable in my eyes. Had you consulted Solomon himself, he would have bid you [Strive not with a man without a cause, if he have done thee no harm, Prov. 3. 30.] and [Go not forth hastily to strive, lest thou know not what to do in the end thereof, when thy neighbour hath put thee to shame, 25. 8.] for [The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention before it be medled with, 17. 14.] It seems a strange thing to me, that you could finde no man to deal with in the main Controversie here chosen out, that was indeed against you, but that you must make to your self, an adversary of one that you confess doth not once deny your Conclusion. Unless it be because you are likely with such a one to have the easiest conflict. But then you should have remembred, that the Victory will be as small. I pretend not to such a piercing knowledge, nor to such acquaintance in the invisible regions, as to determine infallibly of what Province or Degree, of what quality, albus an ater, that spirit was tha [...] raised the storm of your Passions, or to know exactly his name and sirname that animated these your lines: But seeing you are pleased to choose me for your adversary, I must desire you to bear with me if I speak sometime less pleasingly; and to use what patience you have left, as knowing you have drawn this trouble upon your self. And whereas you put me on a double imployment: one to desend the Truth; and the other to defend my self; so I perform the first successfully, I hope I may be excused if I be more negligent in the later; yea if I give you the day, and free [...]y conf [...]ss as much ignorance as you charge me with. Its true that I have not the [...]i [...]s or Rob [...] of Honour, and as little deserve them, as you here express. But mi [...] I be sure that I have right [Page 2] to that farre better Title (of piety) which you are pleased to bestow on me, I could easily allow you the other. I remember the description of the old Christians by Minutius Faelix, [N [...]s qui non habitu sapientiam, sed mente praeferimus; non eloquimur magna, sed vivimu [...]: gloriamur nos consec [...]tos quod ill [...] summa contentione quaes [...] verunt, nec invenire potuerunt.] And that of Mirandula [Faelicitatem philosophia quaerit, Theologia invenit, Religio possidet.] And to contend for the reputation of being Learned, I shall scarce think is worth my labour, till I have higher thoughts of the prize. Mens thoughts and words are a poor felicity. Applause is such an aery nourishment, that I see few thrive by: (though I must confess that in me, as well as in others▪ the unreasonable sin of pride is daily stirring, and convincing me by experience that it is mortified but in part.) O that I may have the honour of being a member of Christ, and then I can spare the vain glory of the world! Vera ibi gloria erit, ubi laudantis nec errore quisquam, nec adulatione laudabitur: Verus honor qui nulli negabitur digno; nulli deferetur indigno: sed nec ad eum ambiget ullus indignus, ubi nullus permittetur esse nisi dignus: saith Austin, de Civit. Dei, li. ult. cap. ult. Only I must crave this of the Reader, that my confessed weakness be no prejudice to Gods truth: and that he will not judge of the cause by the person, nor take the name or person for a fault; which is the thing that the ancient Christians did so deprecate of the Pagans, and therefore I hope every Christian will grant. And I must also desire that want of smooth and pleasing words may not be judged the want of truth. Enimvero dissoluti est pectoris in rebus seriis quaerere voluptatem, & cum tibi sit ratio cum male se habentibus atque aegris, son [...]s auribus infundere dulciores, non medicinam vulneribus admovere: inquit Arnobius li. 1. adv. Gent. p. 49. I confess I do deeply compassionate ordinary Christians, when I think what a hard thing it is for them to discern the truth, among all the smooth words and plausible arguments of Learned contenders. Usually they think every mans tale good, till they hear the other; and then they think it bad: and at last when they see what fair glosses a Learned man can put on the worst cause, they are ready to run into the other extream, and to believe or regard nothing that they say. As Minutius Faelix saith, [Altius mov [...]or de toto genere disputandi: quod plerum{que} pro disserentium viribus & eloquentiae potestate, etiam perspicuae veritatis conditio mutetur, Id accidere pernotum est auditorum facilitate, qui dum verborum lenocinio a rerum intentionibus avocantur, sine delectu assentiuntur dictis omnibus, nec a rectis falsa secernunt, nescientes inesse & in incredibili verum, & in verisimili mendacium. Itaque qu [...] saepius asseverationibus credunt, [...]o frequentius a peritioribus arguuntur: sic assidue temeritate decepti, culpam judicii transferunt ad incerti querelam, ut damnatis omnibus malint universa suspendere, quam de fallacibus judicare.] But let such at least hold fast the Foundation, and remember that we are all agreed in that.
The Reader that I expect should profit by these Writings, must neither be u [...] terly unlearned, nor so learned as your self. For the former are not yet capable of it; and the later are beyond it, and will hardly learn from any but the more learned. It is the younger sort of Students whose edification I intend: who are neither quite above, nor below my instructions; nor so engaged to a Party or Opinion, but that their mindes lye open to any evidence of Truth. Praevent [...]s enim falsae opinionis errore humanus auditus, ad veri rationem percipiendam, durus & perdifficilis invenitur, quantiscunque testibus urgeatur. Mavult enim pravi dogmatis sententiam, quae semel infectus est, perversus vindicare, quam hanc [...]andem tantis divinarum humanarum{que} legum authoritatibus refutatam salubrius immutare: inquit Vigilius contra Eutich. li. 1. initio.
Lastly, If you should be in the right and I in the wrong in any one Philosophical Controversie, I must expect that the Reader do not thence conclude, that you are right in your Theology. And I could with that you had so mean thoughts of your Philosophy, as that you might not build your Theology on it too much; nor think much the better of your Writings, or of your self. For doubtless when the Canon of a Council forbad the reading of Heathens Books, these things were not so highly valued as now. I approve not of that extream neither: but shall conclude with that serious exclamation of Ahenagoras (Legat▪ per Christian. p. 13, 14.) [...], &c.
§. 2.
Pag. 133. Mr K.
FOr the fuller opening of this particular, I will be content to make some Digression from your Book, and to shew 1. That there can be no new immanent act in God, against M r Baxter. 2. That there is somewhat like Justification in that immanent act of God, whereby he decrees from eternity to justifie and condemn men. And 3. that yet that immanent act cannot be stiled Justification; nor is it meant so by Dr. Twisse or Mr. Pemble that I know; and so that Justification is not from eternity: and then I shall return to you, &c.
§. 2.
R. B. YOur Digression, methinks, is very sudden, and the occasion to a stranger hardly discernable: Its like it was the uncouth apparition of some ruling wight of another Orb, which made upon your intellect that strange impression, which caused you to reel thus out of your way, and lead you unhappily into this private path, or rather bewildred you in this Maze where we now finde you. But whoever led you in, charity commands me to do my part to help you ou [...], or at least to warn others that they do not follow you.
1. As to your first undertaking, I confess it was very ingenuously done, to say, You will do it [against Mr. Baxter] and not [against his doctrine or opinion,] acknowledging afterwards that I deny not your Conclusion. But I am used to Dispute against Doctrines, and not Persons: and therefore will give you the better in this.
2. Your second undertaking is more admirable then the first. For I have met with some besides you that dare adventure on the former, but never man that durst attempt the later. Is it not enough for you to prove Gods Decree of justifying to have somewhat like Justification? but you must also prove, that the Decree both to justifie and condemn, hath somewhat like Justification? If the Decree to condemn a man have somewhat like justifying him, then the Decree to torment him in hell hath somewhat like glorifying him: and the Decree to kill, hath something in it like quickening him. You must fly to some general point of similitude, or to the Lord Brookes doctrine, that all things are One, to make this good. But if it were but your oversight, then I hope hereafter you will be more [Page 4] compassionate to your Brethren, and no more so solemnly call men to [see the hand of heaven, in the pompous display of their folly, to appear most ridiculous; and to adore the hand of God in infatuating their parts, &c.] as you do by Mr. Goodwin for a smaller mistake then yours. Alas what man so Learned and accurate, as to be free from all oversights.
3. But indeed Sir I cannot so easily excuse your next errour, annexed to the third part of your undertaken-task; where you say [Nor is it so meant by Dr. Twiss or Mr. P [...]mble that I know.] What is it that is not so meant by them? Why that this Immanent act can be stiled Justification. You have boldly ventured to write thus: and I will be bold to try how well. Either its true, or not true that they so meant: If true, and undeniably apparent in the Writings of one of them, if not both, and oft repeated by him, and yet Mr. K. knoweth it not, why then he doth not only write before he knows, and Vindicate men before he understand whether they are guilty or innocent, but makes it the great motive of his undertaking, as [ [...]ot having the patience to see so worthy Divines so unworthily handled.] If in the mi [...]st of his impatience he knew not this, then it seems I am not alone ignorant of the business that I meddle with. But I will lay it open to the Judgement of the Reader, whether the thing be true or false? and whether you might not with less learning have known this if you would? and ought not to have known the cause before so zealous a Vindication.
Dr Twiss Vind. Grat. li. 1. part 2. §. 25. p. (vol [...]min) 272, 273. Sic scribit [Omnis actualis justificatio est justificatio, & omnis justificatio simpliciter dicta congruenter exponenda est de justificatione actuali. Nam Analogum per se positum stat pro samosiori significato.] [Sed libet his paulisper immorari. Quaenam erit illa peccatorum Remissio quae fidem consequetur; & quam oporteat Spiritus sancto acceptam referre? Remissio enim peccatorum, si quidditatem inspicias, nihil aliud est quam aut Punitionis Negatio, aut Volitionis puniendi negatio. Sit ergo peccata Remittere, nihil aliud quam nolle punire. At hoc nolle punire, ut actus immancus in Deo, fuit ab aeterno, nec fidem consequitur, &c. Quod vero operatione Spiritus sancti nobis ex hac parte, per fidem contingit, aliud esse non potest quam sensus gratiae Dei, &c. Quare siquid morte sua nobis impetrat Christus, quod ad peccatorum nostrorum Remissionem attineat, sensum Are not Christs Merits and the Spirits gifts here highly honoured? istum amoris Divini peccata nostra remittentis, nobis impetret necesse est. Et pag. 279. c. 1. [Nam justitia Christi dicitur nobis imputari, & merita ipsius nobis applicari per fidem, non coram Deo, sed apud conscientias nostras: quatenus per fidem generatur in cordibus nostris sens [...]s & agnitio hujus salutaris applicationis ex amore Dei quem ex fide gustamus; & spiritualiter sentimus nos justificantem, & in filios suos adoptantem, ex quo nascitur pax conscientiae. Quare ante fidem haec Christi justitia nostra suit, quatenus ex intentione Dei patris & Christi mediatoris pro nobis praestita, &c. Sed advenicute fide quam in cordibus nostris Sp sanctus accendit, tum demum agnoscitur & percipitur hic amor Dei erga nos in Christo Jesu. Unde dicitur justitia Christi imputari nobis per fidem, quia non nisi per fidem dignoscitur a Deo nobis imputari: & tum demum justificari dicimur ejus generis justificatione, at{que} absolutione a peccatis nostris, quae pacem ingenerat conscientiis nostris. Hoc autem duobus argumentis confirmo. 1. Quia per justitiam Christi non modò assequimur remissionem peccatorum, sed & fidem ipsam, at{que} resipiscentiam, hoc est, cordis circumcisionem, Eph. 1. 3. ergo etiam ante fidem & resipiscentiam applicatur nobis justitia Christi, utpote propter quam gratiam assequimur efficacem ad credendum in Christum & agendum paenitentiam. Alterum est, quia justificatio & absolutio, prout fignificant actum divinae voluntatis immanentem, sunt ab aeterno. [Page 5] Unius autem voluntatis notificatio externa, per modum absolutionis cujusdam judicialis & fore [...]fis, quae fit per verbum & spiritum, pro tribunali conscientiae uniuscujus{que} haec est illa justitiae Christi imputatio, item{que} justificatio & remissio atque absolutio quae fidem consequitur.] Et cont. praefat. p. 18. b. Extra controversiam est remissionem peccatorum prout esta actus in Deo immanens antecedere nostram fidem & resipiscentiam: Nobis vere non nisi per fidem innotescit, cujus etiam fiducia multo adhuc confirmatior evadit per resipiscentiam.]
Lib. 1. Part. 2. p. 272. [Justificationem verò & Reconciliationem pro codem haberi ab Arminio (quod & verum est) &c. And he oft maintaineth the eternity of Reconciliation.
Lib. 2. P. 2. pag. 434. [Ergo etiam ante fidem Deus nobis reconciliatus est: neque enim nisi jam reconciliatus & propitius gratificatur nobis fidem. Quid quod remissio peccatorum & acceptatio nostri, Non nisi actus internos & immanentes in Deo notant: cujus generis actiones non suboriuntur Deo de novo.] Lege ult. & postea [Juxta ista distinguere poterimus de reconciliatione dupliciter dicta: Nam & Deus reconciliavit nos sibi in Christo quoad rei veritatem: & in ministris suis posuit verbum reconciliationis, quoad ejusdem praetiosae veritatis evidentiam & manifestationem. Sic cum inimici essemus dicimur reconciliati fuisse Deo quoad rei veritatem: quod tamen non nisi per Evangelij praedicationem fit qu [...]ad ejusdem veritatis patefactionem & salutarem communicationem.] Et p. 433. [At A [...]minius applicationem remissionis peccatorum, ita interpretari videtur, ut per applicationem fiat, & jam quasi de novo esse incipiat: quasi vero non requiratur, ut jam antea existat quod applicandum est. Nobis vero sic instituendum videtur. Christus morte sua nobis procuravit redemtionem a peccatis, cum Deo reconciliationem, & peccatorum omnium remissionem; quae quidem per pradicationem Evangelij & per fidem, nobis applicantur, non ut sint, sed ut nobis innotescant. Nam rationem omnem superat quomodo applicari possit illud quod nondum est, &c.] Pag. 434. Nostra vero interpretatio sic procedit: Christus nobis acquisivit morte sua redemptionem effica [...]em & actualem, id est, actualem peccatorum remissionem, & reconciliationem cum Deo. Applicantur autem ista per praedicationem Evangelij, non ut de novo fiant, sed ut nobis innotescant, &c. At inquies, actualis Remissio peeatorum est ipsa Justificatio: Justificatio sequitur fidem: nam fide justificamur: ergo nomine peccata remittuntur antequam credat. Respondeo, Cum docet Apostolus nos fide justificari, nihil aliud ex instituto docet, quam nos justificari per sanguinem Christi, sive propter Christum crucifixum.] And in the Index he owns it, that Remissio actualis est Justificatio: and therefore we may take what he saith of remission as meant of Justification.
The like Lib. 3. pag. [...]8. & lib. 1. p. 2. pag. 272. which we before cited part of [Nec sane occurrit species aliqua rationis, cur reconciliatio cogatur in ordinem cum impetratione remissionis, Justificationis & redemptionis, potius quam cum actuali Remissione, Justificatione & Redemptione.] So that he puts actual Justification with Remission and Reconciliation.
So contra Corvinum pag. 48. Et quid quaso Adoptio est quam conscquimur per fidem? Di [...]is esse Acceptationem Dei. Quid autem est Acceptatio? Annon actus in Deo immanens? An vero actus Deo immanens superverit de novo?]
Its undeniable in this that Twisse doth not only affirm Remission and Reconciliation and Adoption to be before we are born, immediatly on Christs death; but also to be immanent Acts, and from Eternity: and though he be more seldom in thus using the word [Justification] yet he affirms Reconciliation and Remission (which he saith are from Eternity) to be the same thing with Justification: yea he expresly entitleth that eternal immanent act [Justification.] [Page 6] And did he only affirm Remission and Adoption and Reconciliation and Acceptation to be immanent acts and from eternity, I beleeve few sober men will think it any better, then to affirm the same of Justification. Yea he plainly intimates a distinction of Justification: one from eternity or from Christs death, and the other upon our believing: And therefore when he speaks of Justification by faith, he cals it [that sort of Justification] intimating the other sort.
Now for Mr. Pemble, as he expresly maintains Justification in foro Dei to be long before we are born, even on Christs dying, so that is all one to our purpose, as if he maintained it to be from eternity. And it were meet that some of you should have shewed before now, what Transient act it is by which particular sinners not yet born (and therefore not yet sinners) are justified at Christs death I pray you Sir remember to do this in your next.? If it were (as Mr. Pemble intimates, I think) Gods accepting the Price, its worth the while to shew that to be Temporal and Transient, when Dr. Twiss will have his accepting of man in Adoption to be immanent and eternal: But if you maintain Gods justifying act at Christs death (whether undertaken or suffered) to be an immanent act, then it must be before Christs death, even eternal too. Mr. Pembles words are, Vind. Grat. p. 21. [But with a distinction of Justification. 1. In foro Divino, in Gods sight; and this goeth before all our sanctification. For even whilst the Elect are unconverted, they are then actually justified and freed from all sinne by the death of Christ: and God so esteems of them as free, and having accepted of that satisfaction, is actually reconciled to them. By this Justification we are freed from the guilt of our sinnes: and because that is done away, God in due time proceeds to give us the grace of sanctification to free us from sinnes corruption, still inherent in our persons. 2. In foro conscientiae, in our own sense: which is but the Revelation and certain Declaration of Gods former secret act of accepting Christs Righteousness to our Justification.] So pag. 23. he speaks again of the same Justification in foro Dei, and saith, that all the sinnes of the Elect are actually pardoned, the Debt-Book crossed, the hand-writing cancelled, &c. and that this grand transaction between God and the Mediator Jesus Christ was concluded on and dispatcht in heaven long before we had any being either in nature or grace.] This phrase of [dispatching it in heaven] makes me conjecture that it will prove some immanent act which they call Justification at Christs death. Lay all this together, and judge whether it be true that neither Dr. Twiss nor M [...]. Pemble, do mean that the immanent act can be stiled Justification. Or if it were true, whether Justification before we are born, is not an errour fit to be resisted. Indeed it is true that Mr. K. saith, that neither Dr. Twiss nor Mr. Pemble did ever mean, that [the Decree of God from eternity to justifie and condemn men, is to be called Justification:] For the Decree to condemn men cannot well be called Justification: But I believe this being but Mr. K. oversight, he will not make use of it to justifie his third Proposition.
§. 3.
Mr. K. Digression. P. 1.
VVHether there may be a new immanent Act in God?] To the first, By an immanent act, we mean such as is terminated in the Agent; and not in any thing without it. Now that there can be any new immanent act in God, M. Baxter doth not [Page 7] adventure to affirm. Only he is pleased to say this; [That all immanent acts in God are eternall, he thinks is quite beyond our understanding to know. Aphor. pag. 174.] and he casteth out somewhat to render it suspected, p. 173. which I shall examine by and by.
§. 3.
R. B. THey say of those that are bred souldiers and used to bloodshed and Victory, that the state must make them fresh work and finde them constant imployment, or else they will make work and finde imployment for themselves. A Polemical Divine much used to Disputations, and thereby to the glory and Triumph of Victory, is, as it seems by this Learned man, in the same case. Mr. Goodwin found him not work enough, and rather then he would want more, he makes to himself an adversary (for he saith, it is against Mr. Baxter) which here in the beginning he confesseth, makes not himself one, so much as by a denial of his Proposition, or an affirming the contrary. Could you finde never a man in the world to deal with, that affirmed that there may be new immanent acts in God? If you could, they had been fitter for you to take in hand: For its like, they would purposely have maintained that assertion with some shew of reason: If you could not; then your doctrine is so universally received, that I should think it should not need your Arguments now to support it: And then you may well conclude, as you do, that you have done little by this Dispute; if you have but laboriously maintained that which no man denies. But it seems to me it was some reasons ab homine, from the person of your chosen-seigned adversary, rather then from the cause that allured or impelled you to this encounter.
As you well begin with some explication of your sense, so will I also: and the rather seeing I have little else to do. I desire the Reader therefore to understand this much of my thoughts about the subject in hand, before I proceed further.
1. In generall, I am very strongly perswaded that it is one of the greatest sins that a great part of Pious Learned Divines are guilty of, that they audaciously adventure to dispute and determine unrevealed things; and above all others, about the Nature and Actions of the Incomprehensible God. And that this is The very thing that hath divided, weakned and ruined the Church, more then any one thing, except plain contempt of God: And that it is under the wounds of these overwise mens Learning, that the poor Church hath lain bleeding many hundred years. Our Contentions, Envyings, Hear-burnings, by perverse zeal, and much of all our warres and calamities, are long of this sinne in these men: That as the Romish Clergy are justly esteemed the greatest Schismaticks on earth, for their audacious and unmercifull additions to the Creed, making such a number of new Keys which heaven must be opened and shut by, which God never made: So are those zealous Learned men, the cruel dividers of the Church, by occasioning our contentions, that will with boldness pry into things unrevealed, and with considence and peremptoriness determine them, and then with long and subtil and fervent arguings maintain them, and make them seem necessary to the peace of the Church, or the soundness of our faith. Scarce any one thing hath more fully discovered to me the frailty and fearfull pravity of man, then this: To think, that so silly a worm should be no more acquainted with his own weakness, and the infinite distance between God and man; and should so confidently think that he knows [Page 8] what he doth not know! yea and what he cannot know? yea and be angry with all the world that will not say, It's true; and will not believe that he knows what he pretends to know! If a man should perswade me that I know how many Angels are in heaven, or how many daies it will be till Christs coming to Judgement, one would think it were no hard matter for me to know that I do not know any such thing. But if I should perswade my self that I know it, and should expect that all others should believe that I know it, and would write Volumes to prove it, and count all those ignotant or erroneous that will not believe me, or that will not say they know it when they do not, as well as I, whether this were the part of a man awake and in his wits, let others judge. How much more beyond our reach is the unsearchable nature of God, further then he hath revealed himself in his Works and Word, which, alas, affordeth us but a glimpse of his backparts. Yea the wonder is yet greater that these same Learned Divines, when they are at a nonplus in their arguing, will plead mans ignorance and incapacity to put off their adversary and blame others for too bold enquiries and intrusions into Gods secrets: and most of our Reformers do speak hardly of the Schoolmen for it (and very deservedly) and yet will not see the guilt in themselves. No man speaks more against his own natural inclination in this then I do: I feel as great a desire to Know, and to pry into any thing that others have disputed, and as much naturall delight in the reading of the most audacious subtil Disputers, as others do. I was wont to say, I could get more out of Aquinas, Scotus, Durandus, and such like in a day, then out of many Ancient Fathers, and later Treatisers, in a mone [...]h. But I finde that as desire to know was the beginning of our misery, so is it the continuance. Why do men fear themselves no more, in that which innocent Adam was undone by? I finde that this bait of knowing things unrevealed, doth but entice men into vain hopes, and labours, and self-deluding promises, and flatter men into a pleasant loss of time (and worse:) and in the end faileth all their expectations: and the Learned Disputers come off as Adam did, with Gods acknowledgement that he was like God in knowing good and evil (Ironically, as some Divines think; or expressing his unhappiness plainly, as others.) Those leaves of Bradwardine and Twiss Vind. and de scient. Med. &c. which I was wont to reade with longing and delight, I confess I look on now with fear; and many Learned Schoolmen (specially on the first Book of the Sentences) I read, as I hear men swear or take Gods name lightly in their common talk; even s [...]ldom, unwillingly (looking for other matter) and with horrour. Yet how oft doth Dr. Twisse tell Arminius and D [...]. Jackson of the sinfulness, unsafeness and uncertainty of departing from the Scrip [...]u [...]es in these high things, about the Nature and Decrees of God? And what Bradwardine excellently saith, I desire the Reader to see in him, de Causa Dei, l. 1. c. 1. corol▪ 32. B [...]t especially I desire the Reader to peruse that excellent Epistle of Col [...]ius in Beverovicius de Termino Vitae; which contains what I have a minde further to have said of this: with Gibieus's first Chapt. de Libertate Dei (lib. 2. de lib.) which shews how far God is above all our highest names and notions: and that Deus ab [...]llis [...]iber est: with much more against the Doctrine that I oppose. See also Car [...]. Contarenus de officio Ep [...]scopi, operum p. 410, 411. and what he citeth out of Dio [...]ysius. And I intreat you to reade seriously that notable passage, 1 Tim. 6. 3, 4, 5. where pride is shewed to be the root, and supposed knowledge said to be b [...]t Do [...]ing, and they are said to know nothing, that thought they knew most, and the sad effects of all are manifested.
[Page 9]2. I do think that most of our profound Disputes, wherewith the Domini [...]ns and Jesuites, the Arminians and Antiarminians have Learnedly troubled the world, are guilty in part, of this hainous sinne before mentioned: and that these great Doctors do dispute for the most part of they know not what. I confess its usual with men that know little themselves, to think that others know as little, and to measure the knowledge of other men by their own: and so its possible I may undervalue the Learning of these men, because having none my self, I cannot understand the largeness of their capacities, and sublimity of their speculations. However I am sure I am wiser and righter in one point then I was: For when I steeped my thoughts in their speculations, and was my self of the same express opinion with one of the parties, I thought that I begun to grow somewhat wise my self; but now I know I was deceived, and it was my folly, and that I knew not what I thought I knew. And though I will be bolder to befool such a one as my self, then men of such sublime incomprehensible knowledge; yet its my opinion that they are but men; and what a man is though I do not yet fully know, yet I am daily both studying and trying: and experience which i [...] the teacher of fools, hath taught me this much of him; that he is no Deity; nor one of the Intelligences that moveth or comprehendeth the orbs; that the wisest are not so wise as they would seem, or as they imagine themselves; that all their conceptions which they judge so comprehensive are comprehended in the compass of a narrow skull, and there lodged in a puddle of such brains, and humours, that a little knock if it hit right may make the wisest man an Ideot, and drive out all that profound Learning which Mr K. thinks is so near kin to the knowledge of God. I confess of late I have accustomed my self to such mean though [...]s of man and his imaginations, and such high thoughts of God, that I reade many of the profoundest School Divines (whom yet in some respects I honour) as I hear children discoursing of State matters, or Theology; or as if I heard two disputing in their sleep. The Serpent hath beguiled us as he did Eve, by drawing us from the simplicity that is in Christ. Vain Philosophy hath been the bait to deceive the Church: And so we are judiciously broken in pieces and ruined; and have learned to our cost to know good and evil. I think there is no hope of the Churches recovery but by returning to the primitive Christian simplicity; and using Aristotle as a help in Naturals, but not preferring him before Christ in the teaching of the highest speculations of Theology, as if we must go learn Gods nature of Aristotle, where Christ leaveth us at a loss. When those Learned men, who professing themselves wise became—shall become fools that they may be wise, and come quite back again to their cognosce teipsum, then they may know more of God then they yet do, and yet perceive that they know less then they thought they had known: and then their knowledge will edifie which now puffeth up.
3. I think that man can have no positive proper corception of God, at least besides ens (which the Scotists think proper) and that there is no word in humane language that can express Gods nature in strict propriety, but all our notions of him are so exceeding imperfect, that they express more of our ignorance then of our knowledge. White is bold to say (Institut. Peripatet. l. 4. lect. 9, 10.) that none of the Names that we attribute to God, hath a notion which hath in God a formall object: and that that science is of all other the most sub [...]ime and proper, which inquireth into the impropriety of the names that are spoken of God, and denieth them all as to him.
[Page 10]4. I think that there is no such thing in God [...] Understanding, Knowledge, Will, Intention, Decree, Election, Love, &c. as these are by men conceived of, and expressed: And that man knows not what it is in God formally which these terms are used by him to express. And that it is a farre less improper speech to say, that the Firmament is a nutshell, or the sun is a glow-worm, or to denominate the reason of men from the apprehensions of a fly or a worm, then to attribute Understanding, Will, &c. to God. What the impropriety is, we shall speak to more anon.
5. Therefore all those reasonings concerning Gods Nature or Acts, which are drawn meerly from the nature and acts of man, as concluding from a supposed Analogy of attribution (much more a formal Identity) is a vain deceitfull reasoning.
6. Yet as Scripture speaks of God in terms improper, according to mans capacity, and fetcht from mans nature and acts, so must we both conceive and speak: that is, not believing that these are proper expressions or conceptions of God, but that there is that in God which we cannot now more fitly conceive of then under these notions, or fi [...]lier express then in these terms. God hath nothing properly called Knowledge or Will▪ but he hath or is that which man cannot fitlier express or conceive of then under the notion of Knowledge and Will: But what it is, God knows. We must say, God knows, and God willeth; and God must say so to us: For else man could not hear or speak of God, if God condescended not to the language and capacity of man. Camero saith, even of our most perfect state of glory, that Frui Deo nil aliud est quam potenti [...], sapientiae, bonitatis divinae fructum percipere, quem creaturae modus & ratio ferre potest, &c. Et videtur Deus experiundo quis sit (1. Jo 3.) Et qualem se erga nos praestet, caeterum (quicquid dictitent scholastici, homines acuti quidem, sed in hoc argumento nimis acuti, invisibilis est vel Angelis, quibus ad Dei conspectum nulla peccati labes, sola naturae imb [...]eillitas▪ (creaturae enim sunt) aditum interclusit. Praelect. de Verb. Dei. Glasc. c. 7. p. 455. I am more certain that even the eye of our understanding hath no direct and proper sight of God, while we are in the flesh.
7. Yet these attributions of Knowledge and Will, to God, are not falsehoods, for there is really somewhat in God which these are made the improper expressions of. Equivocals and Analogies are not eo nomine false expressions.
8. I am so farre from thinking that it is by Analogy of Attribution (as the Schoolmen call it) that Knowledge, Will, &c. are attributed to God and the creature; that I think these ascribed to God by an exceeding farre fetcht metaphor, further then (as I said) if I should call Heaven a nutshell; there being a thousand fold more likeness between these, then between Gods Knowledge and Will, and mans: For between finite and Infinite there is no proportion. Yea I will not undertake to prove that the Ratio homonymiae is not in Us, only, and not at all in the Things.
9. Yet no doubt, the thing meant by Knowledge and Will when attributed to God, is not only, as many say, most eminently in God, but is solely in God; that which is called knowledge and will in man being not the same thing, but toto genere diversum. But yet the conception that we have of Gods Knowledge and Will is but improper derived from the supposed simile, viz. our own understanding and will, which representeth it with exceeding imperfection. So that the terms of Knowledge, Will, Decree, &c. are spoken first and properly [Page 11] of the creature, and thence improperly of God.
10. Yet I acknowledge that though all these terms of Attribution, as to God, are exceeding improper, yet there are degrees of impropriety; some being more improper then others are: And so I doubt not but that the terms that are taken from humane passions and imperfections are more improperly applied to God, then these forementioned of Understanding and Will, &c.
And thus I have told you some of my thoughts, that Mr K. may know on what terms to deal with me, and not contend with one whose minde he understandeth not.
And as to his description of Immanent Acts, I deny that there is any such thing as an Act in God terminated in himself, supposing that you speak not of a meer objective termination (as I know you do not; For else you would call many of these transient acts, as having an extrinsick object.) As I acknowledge no certainty of a proper Act in God, so I acknowledge no positive termination of that which in him we call an Act; and we call it immanent but in that negative sense which the later clause of your description doth express. We are like to make a good dispute of it, when I am forced to deny the subject, as being a Chymaera.
§. 4.
Mr. K. IN the mean time, out of the respect I bear to the memory of Dr. Twisse, I cannot forbear to say, that Mr. Baxter had better consulted his own honour if he had said nothing to the disparagement of that Reverend and Renowned Doctor: of whom he speaks very sleightingly more then once in his otherwise excellent Treatise of Infant-Baptism, and in all his other Books: In which I could wish there were not somewhat of the Doctrinal part not answering that of the Devotional What Dr. Twisse hath said of Justification from eternity, upon this ground, that there can be no new immanent act in God, and how much some in the Synod said against him, and how little he replied for himself matters not: he was now grown old,
When he beat Arminius, Corvinus, Tilenus, Penottus, Bellarmine, Dr. Jackson, and I know not how many more out of the field; & solus vacua dominatus arena left them all bleeding, as Mr. Goodwin would have said, at the feet of his Writings. It may be he was now at last, but magni nominis umbra, but whose very name really did most of the service, and I am sure was that formidable thing to the learned Adversary: But as old as he was, I question not but he could have e [...]sily made this good, There is no new Immanent act in God] against all that opposed him in the Synod, and Mr. Baxter to boot: and I would fain hear any of them all that opposed him, to give a satisfactory answer but to this one Argument.
§. 4.
R. B. 1. YOu need not argue me to a higher respect to Dr. Twisse then I have ever manifested, except you would have me say, He was a God, or an Angel, or an Infallible man.
2. If you cannot forbear, as you say, its pity you should be hindered: Men and women must speak when their list is so great. Who can hold that which will away?
3. I confess that I did not much consult mine Honour in that writing. Else you had not found your self work as you have done in these leaves. If you mean the Honour of my Honesty, your proof must do more to the determination then your assertion: If you mean the Honour of my Learning, do not you know well enough, how little I have to consult? He that hath nothing, hath nothing to lose.
4. [Sleightingly] is a word that will stretch, and therefore I will not charge you with untruth. In one mans sense, he sleights a man that cals him [that famous excellent Divine:] but in another mans, sleighting signifieth the esteeming of a man below his worth, and expressing so much, or setting light by a man. I am miserably troubled with those kinde of people that cannot endure [sleighting] as they call it, above all folks in the world. (I use to call them plainly, Proud people, here in the Countrey; but if I were to talk to Learned men I would use more manners.) They think I sleight them, if I do not applaud them, or complement with them, or if I commend them not with so loud a voice as they expect (and they are a people that are never low in their expectations:) or if I do but praise another above them, or speak to another before them, or be short with them (when I am busie) when they look for a longer more respectfull discourse; yea if my Hat should be over mine eyes that I see them not, or my memory so fail me as that I forget them; these and abundance more I am guilty of sleighting every day, that I am now grown accustomed to the vice, and shameless in hearing it charged upon me. But I suspect that my sleighting Dr. Twisse consisteth in my supposing him to erre, and telling the world so: that is, in taking him to be a man: for h [...]manum est errare: and for saying he knew but in part, that is, that he was not glorifi [...]d on earth by perfection. If you could have charged me with any more then this, would you not have done it? I say, would you not? when the Vindication of this Reverend man was the end of your encountring me? and it boyled so hot on your stomack, that [you could not forbear: you had not the patience to see so Worthy men so unworthily handled.] Yea your self affirm that which is his doctrine to be untrue, and yet I sleight him for saying so! Lay this with the commanded Adoration of the footsteps, and it seems, it is high matters indeed that you expect. I doubt, by this, that you will say, I slight you before I have done, either because I praise you not enough, or because I take you not for infallible and indefectible, or because I value Dr. Twisse or Mr. Pemble so very, very, very farre before you; when yet I am accused of slighting them. Sir, these Reverend m [...]n, I doubt not, are perfected Saints in heaven, and hate pride so much, that if they know it, they will give little thanks to him that will contend for the honour of their Infallibility, yea or for the guilding over any of their errours▪ much less, if their honour should be made a [...] snare to▪ the entangling of the godly, and a means to the promoting the [Page 13] Kingdom of darkness, and opposing that Truth which they love better then their Honours, and the dishonouring of that God whose glory is their felicity.
Yea let me tell you that I take my self bound in conscience to say more then ever I have yet said, and that is thi [...] [All young Students that will deigne to take advice from so mean a man as I, as ever you would preserve your graces and conversations, preserve▪ your Judgements; and as ever you would maintain the Doctrine of Christ, take heed of the Errors of the Antinomians: and as ever you would escape the snare of Antinomianism, take heed of these principal Articles of it following: [That Christs satisfaction is ours quà praestita, before the Application; and that so far, as that we are actually Pardoned, Justified, Reconciled and Adopted by it before we were born, much more before we believe: yea that Adoption and Remission of sin are immanent acts in God, and so are from eternity, even before any death of Christ, or efficacy of it: That pardon of sin is nothing but Ve [...]e non Punire: That Justification by faith is nothing but Justification in foro conscientia, o [...] the sense of that in our hearts, which was really ours from eternity, or from Christs death, or both: That justifying faith is the feeling or apprehension of Gods eternal Love, Remission and Adoption.] I say, take heed of these master-Points of Antinomianism: And as ever you would avoid these, take heed how you receive them on the reputation and plausible words of any Writer: and especially of Dr Twiss, who is full of such passages, and being of greater learning and esteem then others is liker to mislead you. For you know, if you receive these then you must receive the r [...]st, if you discern the concatenation. For if all your sins were pardoned as soon as Christ died, then what need you pray for pardon, or Repent or Believe or be Baptized for pardon? then God loved you as well when you were his enemies, as since; and then how can you be restrained from sin by fear? &c. And that you may know I speak not this in slighting of the D [...]ctor, as Mr. K. chargeth me. 1. I profess to do it mainly for Gods glory and Truth, and for the love of souls. 2. I take my self the rather bound to it, because I was once drawn my self to some of these opinions by the meer high estimation of Mr. P [...]mble and Dr. Twisse. 3. I profess still most highly to love and reverence the names of these two blessed excellent men, as formerly I never honoured any two men more. For Dr. Twiss, I am more beholden to his Writings for that little knowledge I have then almost any one mans, besides: and for Mr. Pemble, for ought I can see in his Book of Justification, he revoked this same errour which in his Vindic. Grat. he hath delivered: sure I am, no two mens Writings have been more in my hands, and few mens nam [...]s are yet so highly honoured in my heart.
This much I take my self bound to publish for a common warning. And I would further advise all to take heed how they entertain Dr. Twiss▪s doctrine about the cause of sin; of which I shall be ready to give my reason when I have a call; but will not now digress so far.
5. For your good wish [that my Books had not something in the Doctrinal part not answering the devotional] I thank you. But, alas, ignorance and errour will not be healed with a wish: Many a year have I studied and praied against them, and yet they stick by me still. But had I erred in the Foundation, it would have spoiled my Devotion: for non recte vivitur, ubi de Deo non bene creditur: And I had rather be defective in lesser doctrinals, then in Devotion. And though I am as confident that you erre in some of your Doctrinals (as I shall anon manifest) [Page 14] as you are of my erring, yet I heartily wish your Devotion be as good as your Judgement in Doctrine; and I think I wish you a greater blessing then you wished me.
6. I do not well relish your exceeding coldness in Gods cause, who are so hot for man: When it is for the honour of your Learned Brethren, [you have not patience, you cannot forbear.] But what Dr. Twisse hath said for Justification from Eternity, on the ground that there is no new immanent act in God, this you say, Matters not: Is it a phrase beseeming a Preacher of Christs Truth to say, [It matters not?] When that Truth is contradicted in so high a Point? and the souls of men, and the peace of the Church so much endangered? A G [...]llio might better have spoke thus. England hath not sped so well by the Antinomians of late, as that any knowing friend of it, should say, It matters not, when such great Divines promote their cause.
7. And where you also say, that [it matters not what some in the Synod said against him, and how little he said for himself.] I am not of your minde. 1. Is it only the vestigia Doctoris Twissi & M. K. that are to be adored? You shall give me leave to honour you much, and the Doctor more, but the Assembly more then either of you. 2. I do not think the Doctor was so weak, or at least a good cause so friendless in the Assembly, but that himself or some other would have done something considerable to the justification of his cause, if it had been justifiable. 3. I will be bold to ask you, the next time I see you, whether all your heat and impatience for unworthy handling or slighting the Doctor be not meant against the Assembly as well as me? or if not, Whether it be not respect of persons that made the difference? or rather the securing of your reputation, which you might think would be elevated by a Victory over others, or at least lose nothing, though the person were so contemptible, as not to adde to your glory; but by an opposition to the Assembly it might have been dasht in pieces? Or if the Antinomians being questioned by the Assembly shall alleadge Dr. Twiss's words (frequently and plainly uttered) for their Defence; and the Doctors cause being hereupon questioned shall fall without any justification; I pray you tell me, Whether there may not be the same necessity for us to take notice of his Errours as the Assembly? and whether after them we may not do it (while we honour his worth as much as I still do) without slighting or wronging him. It is more dishonour to be Questioned by an Assembly and come off unjustified, then to be judged to mistake by so contemptible a person as I.
8. Where you speak of [his very Name doing most of the service.] I do not understand what service you mean. I know you mean not the service done in his Writings: And sure you dare not mean [the service done by the Assembly:] for that were to make them a contemptible Assembly indeed, if a mans Name, yea magni nominis umbra, did most of their service: And it were to think as basely of their service as the worst Sectary doth, that I have met with. It were not worth so much cost, and so many years pains, nor worthy the Acceptation of Parliament or People, if it were but the offspring of Dr. Twisse's Name. But Sir we have received fruits that shew they came from another cause then a name or the shadow of a name. I confess I value their least Catechism for children above all Mr. Kendall's learned Labours, were they twenty times more of the same quality. I never heard but one Learned man speak contemptuously of the Assembly, and his friends say it was because he was not thought Worthy to be one of them (I except those that were against them in the Warre; where heat of opposition might [Page 15] occasion disesteem: But if this were Mr. K's case, yet methinks when he changed his Cause and Party, he should withall have changed his esteem of the Assembly.) But its likely that Mr. K. means that it was the Doctors Name that did most of the service of a Moderator; most of his own part in the Assembly: It may be so: But if he had nothing to work by but his Name, yet had his cause been good, it would in that Assembly have found some friends. But what you mean then by the following words, I do not well know, that his Name you are sure [was that formidable thing to the Learned adversary.] Perhaps you mean your self, by the Learned adversary, of whose fears I confess you might be sure, and so might know the Name or Word that did affright you: else I cannot imagine who you mean, except it were the Kings party or the Episcopal Divines together: But for Episcopacy, I know of no Disputes that ever the Assembly had upon it, and so had no adversaries in a disputing way; at least during Dr. Twiss's time. And for disputing the Kings Cause, I think they did as little in it. Some chosen men in the Treaties indeed disputed against Episcopacy, but with other weapons then Dr. Twisse's Name. If you should mean that it was Dr. Twisse's Name that made the Learned Episcopal Divines have Reverend thoughts of the Assembly, I must tell you that there were in that Assembly no small number of Divines of that excellency for Learning, Piety and Ministerial Ability, which might command Reverence from the Learnedest adversaries of you all.
9. But though his Name did all the service; yet you [question not but he could have easily made it good, That there is no new immanent act in God, against, &c.] It seems by this that you think this the easier to prove of the two: And indeed I am acquainted with none that are minded to oppose it.
10. Nor is it reasonable for you to say, that you [would fain have any of them all that opposed him, to give a satisfactory answer to your Argument,] when you know it was not in that Point that they opposed him. Would you make more your adversaaies against their will as well as me? or do you long for more honourable Antagonists to cope with? And whats your Argument?
§. 5.
Mr. K. IF there be any new immanent Act in God, it must be either of his Understanding or his Will: Of his Ʋnderstanding there can be none: else must he know somewhat a new, which inferres he was not Omniscient, knew not all before this new act of Knowledge: If of his W [...]ll, then either this new act is for the better or worse or indifferent: If for the better, he was not absolutely perfect before, as being capable of bettering: If for the worse, he is not so perfect since this act as he was before; which is to make him l [...]ss perfect by his new act: If neither, then is this act such as might as well have been out as in: and then it is an imperfection to act so impertinently. This same Argument as I take it made use of by Mr. Goodwin himself in a like case, and therefore he will not be offended how highly soever I value it as an irrefragable Demonstration.
§. 5.
R. B. REmember that I say not that your Doctrine is Untrue, but Uncertain. It may be possibly as you say; but whether you can tell that it is so, or prove it to be so, I doubt. To your great Argument, I expect better proof of your major Proposition, which indeed hath none at all. Two things I expected you should have proved: 1. That God hath an Understanding and Will which act; properly so called: or that you know what it is that is improperly called Gods Understanding and Will? 2. That God hath no immanent Act but of his Understanding or Will. To begin with the last: I will not say, datur tertium. For I dare not say properly dantur duo: But I will desire you to prove your major: and I think that in the same sense as God is said to have an Understanding and Will, for ought you know he may have other acts, which those two notions will not express. [...]or 1. You are uncertain whether Angels may not have other faculties or acts-immanent, besides Understanding and Will: (If you say, you are sure they have not, prove it:) and so others may be ascribed to God by Analogy from them, as these be by Analogy from man. You know perhaps how many senses you have your self: but how can you prove that no other creature hath a sixth sense, which you are uncapable of knowing the name or nature of? So how know you but Angels may have powers or immanent acts beside Understanding and Willing, which you know nothing of for name or nature? Must all Gods superiour creatures be needs measured by poor man? How much more noble creatures hath God, then these below that dwell in dust! 2. But if you were acquainted with all the Angels in heaven, and were at a certainty about the number or nature of their powers or acts, how prove you that God hath no other act then what Understanding and Willing doth express? That one unconceivable perfect act in God, which Eminenter (by an unconceivable transcendent eminence) is Understanding and Willing, (yet but Analogically so called) but properly and formally is neither, but somewhat more excellent; is in all likelihood very restrainedly or defectively expressed by these two words; even as to the objective extent. How know we but that in some of Gods creatures, or at least in God himself there may be something found besides Entity, Verity, Goodness; or any thing that is the object of Intellection or Volition, whereof no man had ever any conception. However, is it not unlikely, yea a dangerous imagination, That the powers or acts of such wretched worms as we, should be so farre commensurable with the Infinite Majesty, that as we have no immanent act but of Understanding or Will (or subordinate to these) so God hath no other? or none but what are expressed in these two notions! Alas, that silly worms should so unreverently presume! and pretend to that knowledge of God which they have not! and might so easily know that they have not!
And for the former, How farre God hath an Understanding or Will, I will peruse your words to Master Goodwin when I have done with this Section.
This were enough to your Argument and Challenge: but I proceed to the confirmation of your implied minor. And 1. I easily grant you, that it is certain there is no Addition to, or mutation of Gods Essence. 2. I think all the Acts ascribed to God are his Essence, and are one in themselves considered. Pardon▪ that I do but say [I think:] For though principles of reason and Metaphysical Axioms [Page 17] seem to lead plainly to this Conclusion; yet I am afraid of pretending to any greater Certainty then I have; or of building too much on the doubtfull conclusions of mans slippery Reasonings, about the nature of the Invisible Incomprehensible God. I think it most sutable to Gods Unity and Simplicity, that all his immanent acts (so called by us) are Himself and are One. But I dare not say I am certain that God cannot be Simple and Perfect, except this be true: both because He is beyond my knowledge, and because the doctrine of the Trinity assureth us that there is in God a true diversity▪ consisting with Unity, Simplicity and Perfection of Essence. 3. You know not what the subject of your Proposition is, (Gods acts of Understanding and Will:) and therefore you are uncapable of such peremptory concluding de Modis, knowingly and certainly, as here you pretend to. 4. You cannot prove that there's any such thing in God as an Immanent Act, or an Understanding or a Will in proper sense: but something there is which we cannot fitlier or more profitably conceive or express then under such notions, drawn Analogically from mans acts of Understanding and Willing. Now if we will speak of Gods Incomprehensible nature by such Analogy, and put the names of Understanding and Willing on God, as borrowed from mans understanding and willing, then must we accordingly conceive of Gods understanding and willing, as like to mans in the form of these acts (for we can reach to no higher conceptions, though these be utterly improper.) Now mans actual intellection doth connote and suppose an intelligible object, and his Will doth connote and suppose an appetible object: and consequently it cannot be expected according to the utmost imaginable natural perfection of them, that either should go beyond the extent of their objects, or be such acts without their proper objects: Even as Gods Omnipotency is but dicta ad possibilia, Vid. Aquin. 1. q. 25. a. 3. c. These things thus premised, some will perhaps think you sufficiently answered (when you say, it inferres that God was not Omniscient, knew not all, &c.) by telling you 1. That as Omnisciency signifies a Power of Knowing all things, Analogically ascribed to God ad captum humanum as distinct from the act of knowing; so God was yet Omniscient. 2. As Omnisciency signifieth the actual Knowledge of all intelligible objects, so God was Omniscient And no more is requisite to the perfection of his Knowledge. 3. But an Object may have not only its real but its See Buridane of that question in his Ethicks so far as to shew the great difficulty. intelligible Being de Novo which it had not before; and therefore as Omnisciency signifieth the Knowledge of all things that will be intelligible, as well as those that now are intelligible, so (say they) it belongs not to Gods perfection to be Omniscient; for it is unnaturally and improperly called Science (and so Omniscience) which hath not an Object. Their foundation (which may seem absurd to you) viz. That some things may de novo become the objects of Knowledge, they declare thus: 1. They suppose, that though God be Indivisible, and so his Eternity be Indivisible, and have neither in it, Praeteritum nor Futurum, nor Nunc neither, as we understand it, as expressing a present instant of time; yet as God knoweth not Himself only, but the creature also, so he knoweth not E [...]e [...]nity only but Time: He knows how things are ordered and take place in mans Divisible measure of motions: and therefore he knows things as Past, Present and Future, quoad hominem & tempus, which are so past, presen [...] and future. And he doth not know a thing Past to be Present (quoad tempus & hominem) nor a thing Future to [Page 18] be Past: but knows things truly as they be. 2. This being premised, they will then assume, that Peter and Paul did not actually exist from eternity: Christ did not actually suffer from eternity: and so the actual existence of Peter in nunc temporis, was not an intelligible object from Eternity: and therefore they think they may conclude, that it could not be known from Eternity. They will urge their reason thus: 1. There was no Time from Eternity (that is, before time:) therefore it could not be intelligible, that Peter did actually then exist in Time. 2. Else you will confound Futurition and Present existence: God did know from Eternity▪ that Peter would exist in Time, i. e. futuritionem Petri: therefore it was not Peter's present actual existence that he knew. 3. The nature of foreknowledge is to know things as future, and therefore must not be confounded with knowledge of things as existent. 4. This proposition before the creation was not true [Peter doth actually exist:] therefore God could not know it to be then true. But after Peter's birth it did de novo become a true proposition: and therefore must be de novo known to be then true. Before that, it was only true that [Haec Propositio vera futura est] but not [vera est:] therefore no more but the futurition of the Truth could be known, and not the actual present existence (as referring to time:) It is not all one to say [Petrus erit] and [Petrus est] nor all one to know it. 5. The contradictory Proposition was then true [Peter doth not exist:] But both contradictory Propositions could not be known to be true together, that is from Eternity. Therefore God did then know the Negative Proposition as then true [Petrus non existit:] and the Affirmative de futuro to be true [Petrus futurus est, vel existet:] but he did not know the Affirmative de existentia praesenti to be true from Eternity [Petrus in nunc temporis existit] no nor [Petrus in nunc Aeternitatis existit:] for they were then false Propositions: nor yet was it then true that [Tempus actu existit.] If you say, That there were no Propositions from Eternity, and therefore they could not be true or false: this alters not the case: for 1. We speak on supposition that there had been creatures to have framed these Propositions. 2. If we conceive not of Gods Understanding as knowing the truth of Propositions, concerning things, we shall scarce have any conception of it as an Understanding at all. 3. The Schools commonly speak of the Eternal truth of Propositions, e. g. de futuris contingentibus. 4. There are Propositions in Time, and these God knows: and thats all one to the present case. At Noahs [...]ood God knew not this Proposition to be then true [Petrus existit:] for it was not then true. Nor did he know then that [it is true in nunc temporis quo existit Petrus] but only, that i [...] will be true: For Futura and not things presently existent are the objects o [...] Foreknowledge: and that [Nunc temporis] it self did not then exist. 6▪ Otherwise it▪ would be true that All things do coexist with God from Eternity: (which is disclaimed by those that are now opposed:) and so that they do exist from Eternity. For if this Proposition were known to be true from Eternity [Petrus existit, vel Deo coexist [...]▪] then the thing expressed is true, Peter did so exist and coexist. For that which is false cannot be known to be at the same time true. If it be granted therefore that Peter did not exist from Eternity, and consequently that that Proposition was not then true, nor intelligible as then true, but only as of fut [...]e Verity, then when God in time knows it to be of present existent Verity, he knows more then when he knows it to be only of future Verity and of present falshood: And so about the crea [...]ures, When he knows that they do exist and knows them as existing, he knows more then when he knew them only to be future and as future. For if it be [Page 19] not more to know a thing as existent then as future, and so knowledge be not diversified from the object, then it is no more to know something then nothing: For the reason is the same: and future is a term of diminution as to existent. And then it will be all one to know [Judas is damned] and [Peter is saved:] [Jacob is loved] and [Esau is hated.] Yea then it would be all one i [...] (per possibile vel impossibile) it were known [Peter is damned] and [Judas is saved] or [Peter is saved and damned:] and so it would be all one to know falshood and truth.
Many such reasonings as these will be used against you. Of which if you would know my own opinion, I think they are de ignotis, dreams, fightings in the dark, yet much like your own. And though I know severall things that you may say against this reasoning, so do I know much that may be said against yours: and, I think, both sides would do better to profess that ignorance which they can neither overcome nor [...]ide. How constantly do the Schools distinguish between Gods Abstractive and Intuitive Knowledge? Scientiam simplicis intelligentiae & purae Visionis? and tell us that the former in order of nature goes before the other? If this be so, then God hath a Prius and Posterius in the acts of his knowledge. The like we may say between Gods Knowledge of Himself and the creature. If they think it not absurd that etiam in mente Divina there should be a transition of things è numero possibilium in numerum futurorum, and this sine mutatione; why may they not admit a knowledge of things as existent only when they are existent, and of things as future when they are future? and this sine mutatione too? For the distinction quoad momenta temporis, will make but a gradual difference, in point of mutation, from that quoad ordinem naturae, vel momenta Rationis. All distinction, that hath real ground, denotes imperfection, according to our highest speculators, and so must all be denied of God. I refuse not to say (if I must say any thing) of both as Mr. Barlow doth Exercit. 5. (think him not pedantick, because he is bound with Schibler:) Mutatio illa est solum in objecto cognito, non in cognoscente, seu cognitione; cum cognitio divina ab objecto non dependet, nec ad mutationem objecti mutationem ullam patitur, &c. Cum ideo admittit Alvarez res primo esse possibiles solum in ordine ad potentiam & futuras in ordine ad voluntatem, necesse est ut prius cognoscat cognitione abstractiva (quia ut possibiles ea solum cognitione cog [...]sci possunt) & postea cum per voluntatem fiunt futurae, & etiam actu existentes, illas cognitione intuitivâ cognos [...]et Deus. At hinc nulla in Deo mutatio sequetur, sed solum in objecto (ut fateatur necesse est) Et per consequens hoc dato, quod scientia Dei ab abstracti [...]a in intuitivam mutarctur, tamen non sequetur Deum esse mutabilem, vel cognitionem suam ex parte rei: sed solum quod objecto variato, intellectus noster, varias ei denominationes attribuit: ut quod sit intuitiva, quod [...]bstractiva, quae solum sunt denominationes variae cognitioni divinae ab intellectu nostro impositae, pro diverso respectu ad creaturam, cum in s [...] sit omnino simplex & invariata.]
But then I would fain know whether there be not the same necessity that the difference between objects [only future] and [presently existent] should cause our understandings to put the forementioned various denominations on Gods Knowledge, as the difference inter Possibilia & Futura, doth so cause us to put on it? And also whether in the same impropriety and imperfection, the very notions of [Understanding, Willing, Acting, Immanently, &c.] be not Denominationes ab intellectu nostro impositae, or assumed by God in condescension to humane weakness, expressing but some little, very little, of that Divine—I know not what. For that same thing which man hath a true formall conception of under the notion of [Knowing, Willing] is varied according to the variety of [Page 20] objects: But if it be not so with God (as I must think and say, It is not, if I presume to think and say any thing of it,) that is because Knowledge and Willing in Him are not the things that we by those terms use to express; nor yet any thing that we can have formall proper conceptions of: And by the same necessity and warrant as we do bring down the Divine nature so low, as to apply to it the notions of Acting, Understanding, Willing; may we also apply to it the notions of Acting, Knowing and Willing de novo; confessing a further addition to the impropriety of speech. And therefore as God himself doth in Scripture accomodate himself to our capacity, by assuming the terms and notions of Understanding and Willing, so doth he also of loving where he before hated, with divers the like, which in man would imply an innocent mutation.
I have here given you some reason of several passages of mine, which your following Pages carp at, before you discerned my meaning, as I shall shew you further anon.
So much to your proof that there is no new immanent act in Gods Understanding. One word to what follows about his Will.
Where you argue thus: [If of his Will, then this new act is either for the Better, or Worse, or Indifferent, &c.] Ans. In strict propriety, it is taken as unproved, that he hath Will, or Immanent acts. But ad captum humanum as we are necessitated to ascribe Willing and Acting to him, so they that think they may on the same grounds ascribe New acts of Will to him (as the Scripture undoubtedly doth,) will think that your Argument is sufficiently answered thus:
1. This arguing supposeth mans silly intellect capable of comprehending the Reasons of the Acts of the Almighty; as if it cannot be, except we can apprehend the reason of it, and whether it be for the better or worse or indifferent; or what it produceth, or to what end it is: which is a most bold arrogant presumption in such moles as we are. As I said before, you know not whether there may not be more Affections or Modi entium open to the Divine Intellect and Will, or Nature, then we have any name for or conception of: And though mans will look only at the goodness or appetibility or conveniency of objects, yet you know not what Gods will is; and therefore know not what is its adequate object. Many other reasons also of the obscurity of this might be given.
2. It will be answered you, that the said New act of Gods will, is for the Better: But then they will distinguish of [Better.] 1. They will say, It is Better quoad rerum ordinem: and it is Better to the creature: (as for God to love him that before he hated: or approve of him, whom before he disapproved.) 2. They distinguish also between that which may be said to be Better to God himself: Either Really, by a real addition to his perfection; and so nothing can be Better to God: Or 2. Relatively and Reputatively; as God is said to be Blessed, Glorified, Honoured, Well pleased, Exalted, Magnified, &c. And thus it may be Better to God, though he receive no real addition of felicity; and so not Vain or Indifferent.
3. They will desire you to Answer your own Argument as to transient Acts, and they think it may serve as to immanent acts. (Remembring that they suppose that there be new acts in God without mutation; because they suppose that those very things that we call immanent Acts in him are but denominations of his simple Essence, according to the various aspects or respects of the objects, which make no more mutation then relations do.) Was Gods act of Creation, of raising [Page 21] Christ from death, &c. for the Better, or Worse, or Indifferent? I think you will say as before, that it was not Better as to God in the adding of any real felicity to him: But to God Reputarively and Relatively, and to the creature really, it was Better. So will they say about immanent acts, which may perfect the whole (as the Honour of the Prince is the good of the Commonwealth) and may be necessary to the Good of particular persons; and the reputative Good of God himself. Its said, God made All things for himself, Was it for Better to himself, or Worse, or Indifferent?
4. Is it Better or Worse for a looking Glass that it receive a hundred various species de novo? You will perhaps say, It is no disparagement to the Glass to be receptive of new species without being made Better or Worse: as also that its reception is passive, and so is not Gods Understanding or Willing. I know not what it is: but I confess i [...] must needs be a very improper conception to conceive of God as passive in knowing. And yet man hath no true apprehension of a knowledge which is wholly sine passione: But how prove you that God cannot, if he please, by his active Knowledge, Know de novo, without becoming Better or Worse? or doing it in vain? Are you sure that every new act of intellection (even in a dream) doth make mans understanding better or worse? or else is vain? I confess more may be here said.
5. Having done with your Argument, they will further tell you, that, If God may have new relations without any real change, then, for ought you know, he may have new immanent acts without a real change: But the Antecedent is unquestionably true: (God was not a Creator before he had creatures: nor is he our Father before we are his children; nor our King, Master, &c. before we are his subjects, servants, &c. except de jure only:) The Consequence they prove thus: Relations have as true an Entity, as, for ought you know, these which we call Immanent Acts in God, may have: Therefore the Novation of them will make as great a change. Here they suppose that Actio and Relatio are both accidents (taken properly) and neither of them meer Entia Rationis (for in so thinking they go in the more beaten road) much less nothing: Or if you will say, that Relatio is but Modus entis, they will say so of action too: Or however they tell you, that it may be so for ought you know, with that which we call an Act in God. And here they suppose that his Acts are not his Essence absolutely and in it self considered; and that it signifies not all one to say, God is God, and to say, God willeth the existence of this worm: And therefore they will say, that these which we call Acts, may be, if not Relations, yet some of Scotus his formalities, or something to us unknown, which have either no more Being then Relations, or at least not so much as to make a real change in God. And that there is in his simple, indivisible Essence, a Trinity of persons, without any imperfection: so there may be in his Essence, distinct formalities (or somewhat that we cannot name or conceive of) of a lower nature, then Personality, without any inconvenience: and as th [...]se may be superadded to the meer absolute Essence of God (as Agere, Intelligere, Velle, are added) without dividing, or multiplying it: so may [...]bey on [...]e [...]ame grounds be New, or renewed, without any Mutation of Gods Essence; but only of the formality of intellection or Volition, which is added to his Essence.
6. They further think that the nature of transient acts, doth prove that immanent acts may be renewed: Bu [...] [...]his will be more spoke to anon, when we come to your doctrine of transient Acts. They say, A transient act is not a meer Relation [Page 22] or Passion or Effect: But there is in it that which may be called action [...] agente, as well as passion à patiente. Now if actio be efficientis actio here, and God in creating the world did verè agere, then either the world was created from eternity, or else God did create it from Eternity, and yet it was created only in Time, and the Causation or Causing creating Act was infinitely before the Effect; or else there was a new act really performed by God in Time. The first none will maintain, that I deal with. The second, say they, is against common reason: For Gods act is the Causa proxima creaturae; and omnis causa proxima reciprocatur cum suo effectu: i. e. Posita causa proxima in actu, necesse est effectum poni: If it be causa totalis, yea and requireth nothing else to the effect so much as by preparation, or disposition, no nor a subject matter, then the act of creation must needs immediatly produce the creature; and the Creare and Creari must needs be inseparable: Its answered that Gods creating act was from eternity, but the effect, or creature, was not till its Time. But it will be replied, That either God did more for the creatures production or creation at the time of its passive creation, then he did from Eternity, or he did no more: If more, then he did something de novo: If no more, then either the creature would have had its Being from Eternity, quia posita causâ ponitur effectus; or else if you ask whats the reason that the creature was not in Being sooner or later, no cause can be assigned▪ and so God should not be the cause. This holds equally (say they) whether you make the creating act to be only Gods Velle, or [...] superadded execution of that will, as being the effect of power. For either God willed the creatures present existence from eternity, as much as at the time of its creation, or as at this day▪ or he did not. If he did not, then he willeth de novo: If he did, then the creature would have existed, as soon as it was willed. To say, that God willed from Eternity that the creature should be in Time, is true: But is it as much to Will that it shall be, as to Will its present existence? If it be answered, That there is no Past or Future with God; I answer 1. That this was prevented before; when it was said, that God understandeth Time, and propositions concerning time, though time be only mans measure, and propositions mans instruments. 2. The men that I speak to, maintain that all things coexist not with God from Eternity (though indeed the term [from] as here used, contradicteth Eternity:) and they distinguish between Gods willing rerum futuritionem & existentiam praesentem: and therefore this seemeth to make against their answer. (But indeed none of all this arguing is solid, because of the different manner of producing effects per voluntatem, & per potentiam excquentem voluntati superadditam.) Perhaps it will be said, that if all this be granted, yet it followeth not that immanent acts may be de novo without a change in God, because the Creating act, or any transient act is so: For the former is God himself, but the later is not. To which it may be replied, 1. We speak not now of a product or effect, called the Creation, but of the creating act and then why should not that be God himself, as well as an immanent act? If you say it i [...] a Being, then it is God or distinct from God: If distinct from God, it is a substance or accident, or some modus, or who knows what? Accidents God hath none: Substance it cannot be; except it be God. If you say it is any modus, you know what School contradiction you must expect: Or if you say it is a Reality or a Formality, those that you deal with will tell you, that they can as well prove the immanent acts to be formalities, or such like, as you can the transient. For 2. they say (with others) that these acts are not called Immanent, Pos [...]ively, as if they had any effect or terminus in God himself; [Page 23] but Negatively, because they have no effect, ad extra; and do nihil ponere in objecto. So that as to the nature of the act it self, they say, it is the same, or at least, the later as much essential to God, as the former (though not their effects.) And I have paper converse with a Divine, if I mistake not, full as Learned as Mr K. (to speak sparingly) who maintains, that those which you call immanent acts (viz. Gods Knowing and Willing other things besides himself) are transient, and so to be called; as having as much an extrinsick object, as those that you and I call Transient; though they make no real change on them: and that those only are to be called Gods immanent acts, whose object is himself. 3. Moreover you will acknowledge that Gods Velle i [...] an immanent act▪ But how many and how great are they that maintain that Gods Creating act, was but his Velle that things should be! I need not tell you of Schoolmen that are for this: but when you (doubtless) know that D• Twisse himself affirms it, in his Vindic. you must either be of his minde, or handle him unworthily by your Dissent, as [...] did in another case. Now if the act by which God produced the creatures be but his Velle, then it is an act which you call immanent. And you well know how commonly it is maintained that Deus operatur per essentiam: and that there is no act but his essence it self, requisite to any effect, which he produceth, as it is the effect of the first Cause. But this is but ad hominem; for these are not their principles whose arguings I now recite. They suppose that creation and other transient acts, are not meer Volitions, but acts of power, in execution of Gods will. To which purpose [...]ow largely many famous Schoolmen have argued, is obvious to them that are conversant in them. Aurcolus hath fifteen Arguments to this end. Gregor. Arminiensis hath many Arguments to prove that how ever Creation or Conservation be taken, neither of them is God himself. Capreolus I know and other Thomists answer these Arguments: and much may be replied and is, to those answers: so that in so dark and unsearchable a Controversie, strong wits may finde something to say, against each other, longer then the patience of the wisest of their Readers will hold out to know the issue of their disputes. Aegidius, Thom. de Argent. Occam, and others plead also for a necessity of an executive act of power, distinct from the meer act of willing, or that Creation is not God. So do Jacob. Martini, Suarez, Schibler, and other later Authors. And if (as Aquinas saith) transient acts be formaliter in agente, as well as immanent, then the inception of new immanent acts seems to have no other inconveniences, then the inception of transient acts as to the form. But indeed the Thomists say the same of both, that they are only Gods essence, and that God hath no transient act at all, but only that his Essence or Will or Understanding may be so denominated for the rational Relation of the Object thereto. And therefore Aquinas (1. q. 25. a. 1.) maintaining that there is in God Potentia activa (though not passiva) withall maintains it to be the samething, as the action, and as his Will and Understanding. (And yet sometime be calleth Gods actions transient! but in this he speaks unconstantly or doubtfully, as Suarez noteth Met. disp. 20. §. 5.) And the substance of all Capreolus answer to Aureolus fifteen Arguments is this same distinction, between Gods act of Creation it self (which is his Will and Essence, immanent and eternal) and the Relatio rationis between God and the object; from which Gods will is denominated a transient act. But yet in this transient act, it is only the relation, and not the act it self (which is God himself) which may be diversified or renewed. Now if this meer relatio rationis be sufficient ground for our denomination of Gods act to be [Transient] and these transient acts to [Page 24] be new, then it may seem that the relation of the same act to some extrinsick terminative objects (as of Gods knowledge to the present existence of things in n [...]nc temporis) doth give the same ground to call those acts new, though not so properly transient. For if one may be denominated from its respect to its object, why not the other: Nay why the same relatio rationis may not as well denominate those acts transient also, which we now call immanent, is not easie to discern: For both have respect to an extrinsick object, if that suffice. Nay doth not that act which is called immanent, produce or effect? seeing it is only Volendo without any other executive action that God effecteth all things that are effected: and this Vel [...]e from eternity is (say they) causa in actu of those things that are produced in time. And therefore many say, that God hath no Will as to extrinsicks, but what is effective: and so that his Will hath no extrinsick object properly so called, but only products or effects. That omne velle Dei est operativum & efficax eorum quae vult, and that therefore he may not be said to will any thing but what he doth effect. See Gibi [...]uf de Libert. li. 2. c. 24. & 1.
So that in Conclusion, according to the Doctrine of the most Learned Thomists, there is in God neither immanent nor transient act in Mr K's sense. (Except those that are terminated, as they call it, in himself as the object.) Not immanent; for they are not terminated in the Agent, as Mr K. saith, such are; nay they have respect to things extrinsick; nay, say many, they are productive of these extrinsick things. Not transient; for Gods essence doth not transire in objectum extraneum, but only cause it without any other executive action; and so respecteth it. In the same sense therefore, and on the same grounds as you will maintain the transient act to be in time, and not eternal, will these men think to prove it also of the immanent. For even the transient acts of God (so called) are not in the creature, but only respect and effect them. As Capreolus saith (li. 2. dist. 1. q. 2. art. 3.) Talis actio praedicamentalis & quae est motus, est subjectivè in passo: Divina autem actio non est motus, nec mutatio, licet causet motum & mutationem.
7. But they much insist on that before intimated, that if it be no wrong to Gods simplicity to have diversity or multiplicity of immanent acts ascribed to him, then it is not any wrong to his immutability to have such acts ascribed to him de novo: For the reason will prove alike. But that it is no wrong to God to have diversity of immanent acts ascribed to him, is evident by 1. The use of Scripture. 2. The use of all Divines. 3. And the necessity of the thing. 1. I need not tell any man that hath read the Bible, that Scripture distinguisheth of Gods attribut [...] that it ascribeth to him Understanding, Will, Memory, &c. that it speaketh not of his Love and Hatred, his Approbation and Disallowance, his Justice and Mercy, as being one, not to be distinguished. 2. And what Divines sp [...]wise? even of them that make the boldest enquiries into Gods nature, and pass of it the most consident conclusions, as if they had seen the invisible Majesty: I mean the Schoolmen of all sorts: To how little purpose were many a Volume in [...] m Sent. for the most part, if it were enough to apprehend in God undivisible Unity? How easily on these grounds might we answer all Bradwardines, all Twisses sublime disputes, about Gods willing sin, his order of intention, and of his Decrees, his Election and Reprobation, whether absolute or conditional, definite or indefinite, and de rerum possibilitate & futuritione ab aeterno, with many the like? Its easie to say, that all these are one and the same thing: and the same is not before or after it self, &c. Yet this is not taken for a satisfactory [Page 25] way of disputing. 3. Yea is it not apparent, that there is a necessity of such distinguishing language? How many souls would you be likely to convert, and save? how many sins to prevent, by telling your Auditory, that in deed and truth it is all one thing in God to Decree a man to salvation, or to decree him to damnation? Its all one to Will that you shall sin, and that you shall not sin: that you shall die this day, and that your Neighbour shall live fourty years longer: Its the same thing, without any true difference, for God to Love you now you believe, and to Hate you while you were a worker of Iniquity; to be pleased and displeased, to Approve and dislike; His Love to Peter, to Jacob, and his Hatred to Judas, to Esau was the same thing, only the effects are not the same. I say, how savoury and profitable would this doctrine be?
And are there not the same Reasons for our ascribing to God, the beginning and ending of Immanent Acts, as the Diversity of them? Is not one as consistent with his Immutability, as the other with his simplicity? Doth not Scripture ascribe to God the Inception and ending of Immanent Acts, as well as the Diversity of them? And is ther enot as great a necessity of our using that language as the other? How many souls were you like to save by telling them [God Loved you as well before you believed, yea before Christ died for you, as he doth since! God doth Hate you now as much as he did when you were a worker of iniquity, and is as much offended with you since you believed as he was when you were a childe of wrath! He had the same thoughts of you when you were blaspheming, murdering and committing adultery, as when you repent and pray. God is now decreeing to create the world; he is now decreeing to give the Law by Moses, to save Noah by the Ark, Lot out of Sodom: he is now Decreeing that Christ shall suffer for us; he now knows all these as future: he is no more Reconciled to the world by Christ, or Pleased in or by his Sufferings and Merits then he was before: God knows now that [Christ is now on the Cross] or [Christ is not Risen] is a true Proposition, because he did once know that it is a true Proposition: and he ceaseth not to know it:] would this kinde of doctrine seem sound and edifying? Do you use to preach thus?
But you'le say, That Gods Knowledge, Will, Power, Goodness, Justice, Infiniteness, his Willing the End and the Means, the futurition of things, and their present existence, mens salvation or damnation are all diversified onely as to extrinsick denomination, and not really: from the variety of objects it is, that one act of God is variously denominated.
Answ. 1. But Scotus with his followers, Sirectus, Basolis, Trombeta le Roy, Gothutius, Mayro, Faventinus, and the like, tell us of more then extrinsick denominations: And if there be in God a Diversity of Formalities; it may as well be said, that there is an inception and ending of these Formalities in him. This doth no more derogate from the Immutability of God, then the other from his simplicity.
2. Have these extrinsick Denominations any true Ground in the things denominated, or not? If not, it seems they are all false, and therefore not to be used. If they have, then what is it? The difference of names should suppose an equal difference in the Things. A meer Relative difference, some are loth to grant. If they should, as they plead for a diversity of Relations, others may as well plead for an Inception and Cessation of Relations: (Could they prove Immanent acts to be but Relations.) If they say they are Modi or Entia rationis, or what ever title rash adventurous wits may impose on them, still others will say as much for their [Page 26] Beginning and Ending, as they do for their Diversity, and that one impli [...]s no more a Change in God, then the other denieth his simplicity. The describers of Extrinsick Denomination that place it between Ens and Nihil, make it to signifie the order of a thing to the subject which yet it is not in. But then it is a meer Relation which is Denominated; or if any more, it should be ex parte objecti only in our case.
3. But suppose that it be but a meer extrinsick Denomination, and have no Reall Ground in the thing denominated; see what follows: But this much: That Gods Knowledge, and Will, and Power, and Justice, and Mercy, his Knowing me to be Godly or ungodly, his decre [...]ing Peter to life, and Judas to death; his loving Jacob and hating Esau, are all one; his knowing one thing to be future, and another not future, is all one: But yet because of the Diversity of objects it is meet and needfull, that we Denominate extrinsecally Gods acts to be divers: and so to distinguish his Intention of the End, from his Election of the Means; his Election from his Reprobation, his Approbation from his dislike, &c. Even so, these acts in God have in themselves no Beginning or End: God did never Begin to Love, to Will this or that, to Know &c. But yet because of the Beginning and Ending of objects, it is meet and needfull to Denominate Gods acts extrinsecally as Beginning and Ending, as the objects do, and changing with them. For here the case is the same as to Gods Immutability, as in the other to his simplicity. And if this hold, then those men that should write Voluminous Disputes, about the Beginning and Ending of Immanent acts, would do as warrantably as Dr Twiss and others do in writing so of their diversity, priority and posteriority in nature. Nay is it not much more Justifiable then many of their Volumes? For from Eternity there was no reall diversity of objects to denominate Gods Immanent acts from. For that esse cognitum vel volitum, which they'le flie to, could be no where, but in mente & voluntate Divina: and if there were no Diversity in mente Divina at all, then what ground can be imagined of the extrinsick Denominations? For example, Possibilia & futura being nothing, could not in themselves differ from eternity: Yet how great a fabrick doth Dr Twiss build upon this Proposition, that [the transition of things future è numero possibil [...]um in numerum futurorum, being from Eternity, it must needs have an eternal Cause which can be no other then Gods Will.] Now if there were no such transition, but in mente divinâ, and if there were no such notion from Eternity any where else, as is [Future and Possible] and so it must be imagined to be an Ens raetionis Divinae, then it plainly follows that there was no such thing as Future, distinct from Possible: for in God is no distinct Immanent acts, (as knowing Possibles, and Knowing things future;) and in the things was no distinction, for they are nothing.
It seems therefore that upon your own Grounds it is as Justifiable and necessary, to Denominate extrinsecally Gods Immanent acts, as having Beginning and End, when the objects have so, as it is to Denominate them divers from the diversity of the object: and that if we made this our ordinary speech in voluminous Disputes, you could no more blame us for it, then all the exactest School-Divines are to be blamed for the other.
Moreover, some may think, that you do teach Infidels to destroy the Christian Faith, or teach a man to prove or disprove what he will, because Contradictories may consist, e. g. If they would prove that [Christ is not Risen] thus: That which God knoweth to be true, is true: But God Knoweth this Proposition to be [...]rue [Christ is not Risen] Therefore. The minor they prove thus: God did [Page 27] once know this Proposition to be true: Therefore he doth so still: for there is no Ending of any Immanent act of God. It will be answered, That this onely shews a difference in the object, that it was once true, which now is not: but Gods act is the same by which he knoweth these mutable objects. Be it so: (yet whether it be certain and can be proved still, is by them doubted:) but is it fit for us to speak of this act as one only? It seems then, it is all one, in God to know a Proposition to be True, and to know it to be false. For the fore-said Proposition [Christ is not Risen] was True one day, and False the next; and God knew both. You'le say, It is all one in God to Know that to be True which is True, and that to be False which is False: but in both he knows Verè, etsi non verum. But then you must tell us further, what it is for God to Know [Truly:] Is it the Congruency of his Knowledge to the Object, which we call the Truth of it? I think you will say so: And if so, then it is not obvious to shew how there was such a Congruence from Eternity, when there was Nothing but God; and so no other object for his knowledge to agree to: For in God they were all but one, either in esse cognito, or esse volito; for in him is no reall diversity: and out of him, or in themselves they were not at all: and therefore if God knew all things as many or divers, when they were not at all, and as existent, when they did not exist, where is the Congruence of the act with the object? But all this arguing is but light.
But they further argue thus: Gods Immanent acts, which we are speaking of, are not Himself: and therefore as they may be either diversified or multiplied without his Division or Composition, so they may begin or end without his Mutation. The antecedent they prove by that common Argument: These Immanent acts about the Creature, are Free; God Freely Willeth the existence of this worm or pile of grass: he so Willed it that he could have not willed it, or nilled it. But his own Being is necessary, and cannot but be: Therefore, &c. It seems hard to say, that God did as necessarily Will the pardoning of your sins, as he is necessarily God: Or that he could no more have Willed one pile of grass more or lesse on the earth, or one sand more or lesse on the Sea-shore, or one day more or lesse to any mans life, then he could cease to be God. This is a short way of answering Beverovicius question, and of answering the presumptuous enquiry, Whether God could have made any thing better, and a thousand more? Itane etiam ipsum Numen fato constringitur? Is it a good Argument? Deus est: ergo n [...]cesse est Creaturas esse, nec plures, nec pauciores, nec priùs, nec posteriùs, &c? One of my Rabbi's (by whose name I have acquainted Mr. K. with my ignorance) answereth that Gods Decrees are Free, Solum per terminationem ad extraneum, seu in quantum Volitio Dei, circa objectum aliquod extrinsecum practicè est. But this is as much as to say, No Immanent act is Free: For Immanent acts (at least if Mr. K. know) are not terminated in any thing wihtout: Or if a man should say, that those that have an extrinsick object, are objectively terminated in something extrinsick; yet this seems none of the Authours sense (as the word practicè shews:) and if it were (as perhaps it is) his words would run thus: [Gods Decrees are free, onely as they are such and such Decrees about such objects:] which would but yield the cause, that as such Decrees they are not the same formally with the divine Essence. And were it not for the Connotation of the Object, it were no Decree, nor to be called, but simply Gods Essence. I am sure Dr. Twisse will be fully and earnestly enough for those that maintain the liberty of the Divine Decrees which we now mention: and therefore I suppose Mr. K. will be of the same minde.
And that there is not such clear Evidence in this case, as to embolden men to such confident Conclusions, or to build so much on them, as some do, let Suarez perplexed Dispute Metaph. Disp. 30. Sect. 9. testifie, Quomodo cum divina libertate stet Immutabilitas? Where after the producing of many opinions, and the Arguments and Answers, he concludes, Ex his quae circa has opiniones dicta sunt, satis (ut opinor) declaratum est quanta sit hujus opinionis difficultas; faciliusque esse quamlibet ejus partem impugnare, quam aliquam probe defendere, aut explicare. Quapropter non vereor Confiteri nihil me invenire quod mihi satisfaciat, nisi hoc solum, in hujusmodi rebus id de Deo esse credendum, quod ineffabili ejus perfectioni magis sit consentaneum, quodque ab omni imperfectione alienum sit, &c.] And how uncertain are men, that some of those things may not consist with the Divine Perfection, which yet they confidently affirm to be inconsistent with it? If it be a point that is so farre past the reach of Suarez and many other such subtil Disputers, I think Mr. K. should not pretend to so full an insight into it, which may raise him to that confidence which is here expressed; much lesse should he think it so obvious to the understandings of his inferiours.
How light so ever Dr. Twiss make of them, certainly they are accounted no children among the most learned of their side, who do [...]each, That there may be so far a Beginning and Ceasing of Gods Immanent acts, which have a mutable object, without any change in God himself, as that they may have a new transition to the object, and so God may Will that which before he Willed not, though yet it be all by one simple act. Of this minde is Penottus, Lychetus, Fr. a Sancta Clara: And the said Sancta Clara▪ citeth others as countenancing his Doctrine. But though there are but few for this opinion, yet for the formal distinction of Gods Immanent acts (which as is said, seems to be as inconsistent with his simplicity, as this with his Immutability) there are many and that of the most Learned: Vid. quae habet Scotus in sent. l. 1. dist. 8. Qu. 3. & dist. 2. Qu. 4. & 7. & dist. 34. & passim. And Rada saith, that Scoti sententiam ab ejus diebus universa Pariensis Schola semper amplexata fuerit, necnon & Lovaniensis atque Bononiensis Academia; Et in universa Italia apud omnes vivos doctos est celebris & famosa. In Contr 4. And their Reasons are not contemptible, which may be seen in their several Writers: Specially in those that have wrote whole books of the Formalities. Or Rada (a man of a clear understanding and expression) will afford you many in that one Contr. 4. which are worthy consideration. And if Ph. Faber Faventinus his reconciling Interpretation of their Distinction Rationis Ratiocinatae, will prove their sense, then many of the Thomists are also of the same minde. Vid. Faventin. Tract. de formalitat. cap. 3.
I do not mean by this Argument to conclude that there must be (or in all cases may be) an Inception or Cessation of those Acts which admit of a formal Distinction: But only thus, that if a formal Distinction be consistent with the Divine simplicity, then an Inception and Cessation of some such formalities (or acts, quoad formales differentias) may seem consistent with Gods Immutability: (And I know no other Argument of moment then left, if that be solved.) What these formalities are, I do not wonder, if they give but a dark account: Yet that they are different objective conceptions they agree. And as Rada saith, ad Distinctionem formalem duo requiruntur. Alterum est, quod utrumque distinctionis extremum dicat aliquid Positivum in re, seclusa operatione Intellectus: Alterum est, quod utrumque extremum dicat propriam formalitatem, secundum quam sit in rerum natura extra suam [...]ausam. And Scotus himself saith of this as applied to God; Quod Forma in creaturis [Page 29] habet aliquid imperfectionis, scilicet quod est Forma informans aliquid, & Pars compositi: aliquid etiam habet quod non est imperfectionis, sed consequitur [...]am secundum suam rationem essentialem sive formalem, scilicet, quod ipsa sit quo aliquid est tale, e. g. sapientia in nobis est Accidens, hoc est imperfectionis: sed quod ipsa sit quo aliquid est sapiens, hoc non est imperfectionis, sed essentialis rationis sapientiae. In divinis autem nihil est forma; secundum illam duplicem rationem imperfectionis, quia nec Informans, nec pars: est tamen ibi sapientia in quantum est quo illud in quo ipsa est, est sapiens, & hoc non per aliquam compositionem, &c. Sent. 1. dist. 8. Q. 3.
Some think yet clearer Arguments might be fetcht from the Hypostatical Union, from the Acts of generation and spiration, or Love, whereby the Son is begotten of the Father, and the holy Ghost proceedeth from the Father and the Son, and from the distinction of Persons in the Trinity. But I will stop here (as having run further then I intended) lest you should mis-interpret me, and think, that I own all these Arguments that I touch upon. I know what D. Twiss against Pennotus hath said to one or two of them, and what the Schoolmen commonly say to the same▪ I mention these only to shew that a full or clear solution of these doubts is not also facile and obvious, as you seem to imagine.
I must again intreat you, and every ingenious Reader, to fasten no opinion on me, but what I own, at least none which I disclaim. If I must be of one side in this Controversie, I will be of Mr. Kendals side, and say, that God hath but one act immanent, and that is Eternal. But my thoughts are, that we know not what we talk of when we speak thus, and therefore I will not be of any side in this.
I think, 1. That God hath no Act at all in proper speech: but both Acting, and Understanding, and Willing are by a very, very, very low remote Analogy ascribed to him.
2. Yet I am ready to think, that as we are fain for our own understanding, to speak of God as Acting, Understanding, Willing, Loving, &c. and also for our own understanding to distinguish his Perfections, Properties, Acts, &c. which are but one, so may and must we as much speak of some of his Acts, as beginning and ending (which yet perhaps do not in themselves:) For the Reason and Necessity seems to be the same. For because the word [Knowledge or Understanding] is first used and applied to mans act of Knowledge, and signifieth first only such a Knowledge as is diversified by objects; yea and man can have no proper positive Conception of a Knowledge which is not diversified by the diversity of Objects (but onely a Negative Conception;) therefore it is that we are forced to speak of Gods Knowledge (and so of his Will and other Acts) as divers or distinct: as Divines generally do. And on the same Grounds, as man hath no positive Conception of any Knowledge or Will, about mutable objects, which is not varied with these objects, as to the Being, Beginning and Ending, therefore we must as necessarily denominate Gods acts about such objects, as Beginning and Ending, as we must denominate them Divers. And so we may well say, God willed from Eternity the futurition of the worlds Creation, and Christs Death, &c. But now he doth not will their futurition, but their preterition: and that he Loveth now (as believers in Christ) those whom he before Hated as Workers of Iniquity; and that he is satisfied and well-pleased in his Son, and his Sacrifice, who was not so before. Me thinks Mr. K. should think this language as fit for the mouths and pens of Divines, as the former, and not to be blamed or accused as [Page 30] erroneous, because improper, as long as we must speak improperly of God, or not at all. And I am sure that Scripture speaks of God in this language, ascribing to him Immanent acts, as new or as ceasing, and as moved by exteriour causes: Therefore this way of speaking is not unfit or intolerable.
The Summe of all that I say therefore is but this, That we cannot conceive of Gods Immanent acts, as in themselves they are (nor are they truely the same things that we conceive of, when we apply the several denominations to them:) and therefore we must conceive of them by Resemblance to the Acts of Man so denominated, still acknowledging the Impropriety of the terms, and disclaiming all those Imperfections which in man they do express.
But because Mr. K. hath spoken so much to this point already, its like he will take it ill if I take no notice of it. I will therefore a little insist on the consideration of what he saith on it, to Mr. Goodwin, pag. 93, 94. (but briefly, as being not to me.)
§. 6.
Mr. K. THis is such a Reason as most of your Disciples needed your favour to reade a Logick Lecture to them, that they might be in a Capacity to give their Judgements on it: You not having been pleased to do it, I will for once gratifie them with a Cast of my old Office; and now supposing my self again in my Deans Chair, I gravely begin thus. That Univocum is that which is attributed to several things according to the same Name, and Nature signified by that name; as Animal to a Man and an Asse, to which are opposed on the one hand Aequivocum, which is attributed according to the same Name, but not signifying the same Nature, as Canis which is said of a Starre, a Beast, and a Fish: either hath the same name Canis, but their natures are as different as Heaven, Earth and Water. On the other hand Analogum, which is attributed according to the same Name, and as signifying the same Nature; but not in the like manner. Now this same Analogum is of two sorts; The terms are promiscuously jumbled together by the Logickmongers, but let that be, 1. Proportionis; when the same Name is given to things of the Like, but not the same Nature: as Laughing, &c▪ 2. Attributionis: where the same Name is given to divers things, according to the same Nature: but this same Nature doth not agree to them alike; but to the one first, to the other afterwards, secundum priùs & posteriùs: yea to the later dependantly on the first: as Substance and Accident are each of them Ens, a thing, &c.
§. 6.
R▪ B. HOld a little. 1. The first part of your task, you have competently performed, viz. to acquaint us of the lower O [...]bs of your ancient Dignity: Our distance is so great from the Superiour Planets, that we might never have heard of your Deans Chair, had you not happily here informed us: But I hope you had a more noble Imploiment in your Deans Chair, then this poor, common, Inferiour work, to tell men of Univocum aequivocum & Analogum, and to distinguish Analogum Proportionis & Attributionis: But though I had not the happiness to be educated at your feet, yet in this your Learned, Elaborate, Polemical writing, I may, no doubt, expect the best of your Judgement; and may conjecture what you were wont to reade to your Pupils by that which you here so gravely read to Mr. Goodwin. First, you will not, it seems [jumble the terms so promiscuously [Page 31] as the Logickmongers do:] But, when these words had raised my expectations of some more exquisite distribution then ordinary, or at least of more apt terms, I am put off with the old distinction, not only common in the Schoolmen, but in the multitudes of Logick and Metaphysick Writers, which I had thought you had disdained: Not the smallest Senguerdius but hath it; (onely he, with many others term it, but Barbarous; whereas Keckerman terms it Insipid, and Burgersdicius inept:) And Rutgersius saith, that Analogorum nomine solum ea dicuntur quae secundum proportionem apud Aristotelem vocantur, prout notant interpretes ex cap. 16. post c. 15. maxime verò ex c. 6. 1. Ethic. &c. Usus tamen Latinae Scholae & Philosophorum obtinuit, ut etiam ea quae secundum attributionem vocantur analogorum nomine censeantur.
But though your Distinction be very ordinary, I confesse there is more then ordinary in your Explication of the members: But it is of such a nature, as makes me begin to abate the apprehensions of my infelicity, in that I had never the happiness to be your Auditor, and to have Learned Logick at your feet. Your Analogum in genere, is that [which is attributed according to the same name, and as signifying the same Nature, but not in the like manner.] Your Analogum proportionis, is [when the same name is given to things of the like, but not the same nature.] Analogum in Genere, is of the same nature, as well as Name. Analogum Proportionis, is not the same Nature, but the Like. And so the nature of the Genus is not in the Species: Nay they are contrary one to the other: and onely the later member (Analogum Attributionis) remains an Analogum, and each Species receives not the definition of the Genus. If this be the Doctrine which you so [Gravely deliver from your Deans Chair, I will say as you do [I cannot perswade my self to leave my old Doctors to follow You.] I will even turn to poor Keckerman, Burgersdicius, Suarez again; yea to a Rutgersius, Jacchaeus, Gorlaeus, Serguerdius, Alstedius, or any body that's near me of this generation, before I will swallow what I cannot digest.
§. 7.
Mr. K. NOw if Substance and Accident be Analoga, because of the dependance of Accidents on the Subject, then what ever is predicated of God and the Creature, must be predicated Analogically, because the creature hath it not but by dependance on God, but God independently from the Creature: And as the Being of the Creature, is derived from God in fieri, and depends on him in facto esse; so questionless the Knowledge of the Creature, is but a beam from the fountain of light, which is in God, and cannot longer subsist, then he vouchsafeth to preserve it by a continued irradiation, &c.
§. 7.
R. B. 1. I Would rather say that Substance and Accident are Analogata, then Analoga; but you may use your Liberty, and call the Analoga, Analogata. 2. I should think that it is not directly and strictly [Because of the dependance of Accidents on the Subject, that Substance and Accident are Analogata: but because of the Imperfect Entity which through this dependance the Acdents have in the more perfect Entity of the Subject. 3. It is not that most Generall [Page 32] Analogum, [Ens] as appliable to God and the Creature, that we are now in question of. But it is those inferiour of [Fore-knowledge, Knowledge, Will, Election, &c.] 1. Your [Because] is unsound, and I conceive your Consequence is false, viz. [then whatsoever is predicated of God and the Creature must be predicated Analogically] Do you think that nothing may be spoken equivocally of God and the Creature? If you do, you are a singular man. 5. I hope you do not think that our knowledge depends on God, as Accidents on the Subject: If you do, then God hath many Accidents indeed, were that true: I had rather say plainly, that God effecteth our knowledge (by way of natural Causation in some respect, and by moral Causation in other respects) as that which had no Being before, then to talk of Emanation as a Beam from the fountain of Light; considering what ill use many in these times have made of the doctrine of Emanation. 6. It seems by your former Conclusion [whatsoever is predicated of God and the Creature, must be predicated Analogically] and by your present predication of [The fountain of Light which is in God] that you judge [Light] or [the fountain of Light] to be predicated Analogically of God too. Which if you do, and this also must be by Analogy of Attribution, then it seems Heat, Cold, Gravity, Levity, Density, Rarity, Composition, or what ever is in the Creature may be thus attributed to God. 7. As to the point it self in question, 1. I will not meddle with that old Controversie, Whether Ens be spoken of God and the Creature Univocally, Aequivocally or Analogically. I have seen what Scotus saith for his opinion in Sent. 2. dist. 12. & alibi. & 1. dist. 3. q. 1. & 3. And what Anth. Andreas 4. Metaph. q. 1. Meurisse Metaph. Scot. l 1. Qu. 8. p. 108, &c. And Phil. Faber. Faventin. Phys. Scot. Theorem. 95. pag. 654, &c. Rada, and others say for it: And what Occham in 1. Sent. dist. 2. q. 8. And Guil. Rubio, say for the Nominals opinion: And what Cajetan saith against the Scotists. (By which Scotists the sense of Univocation, Aequivocation, and Analogy, is a little more subtilly opened, then Mr K. doth out of his Deans Chair.) But the Question that I speak to, is onely how farre Intelligere, Velle and Agere, may be Attributed to God. 2. And for the distribution of Analoga, and the sense of Analogy, I think, it will be long ere the Chair-men are agreed. Meurisse out of Rubio saith, Univocum opponi soli aequivoco, non verò Analogo, & denominativo: quia Univocum se habet ad aequivocum si cut Unum ad Multa: Unum autem propriè solum multis opponitur: se hahet autem ad Analogum & denominativum, tanquam veluti superius ad sua inferiora: Quia Univocum aliud est purum, aliud est non purum: Non purum est aut Analogum, aut Denominativum. Nullum superius autem oppenitur suis inferioribus: Itaque Ʋnivocum non opponitur Analogo & Denominativo; sed ab Analogo distinguitur tanquam Univocum purum, & à Denominativo Ʋnivocum quidditativum, seu illud quod est & praedicatum Ʋnivocum & Univocè praedicatur. Others innumerate Analoga with the Homonyma, distinct from Synonima.
Goclenius (who speaks largely of it) gives this distribution, Lexic. Philos. p. 100. I think in fitter terms then Mr. Kendal.
- Analoga sunt Proportione
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- Propriâ: ut Ens, bonum, principium, natura, motus, &c.
- Impropria
- Attributionetantum: ut sanum ad animal & medicamentum.
- Translataproportione: Risus, comparatione bominis & prati.
But I think poor contemptible Keckerman and Burgersdicius have better explained and distributed Homonyma and Analoga, then all that ever I had the hap to be acquainted with, not excepting the subtillest Scotists. 3. As for the application hereof to our Question, I still affirm, That the thing which the word [Knowledge] is spoken of, in God, is not only more eminently and perfectly in him then the Creature, but is only in him, and not in the creature at all: And the thing which the word Knowledge is spoken of, or doth signifie in man, is not at all formaliter in God, but there is in him something of an Infinite, transcendent Excellency above it, which makes it useless; and in God it would be Imperfection: And therefore it may be said to be in God eminenter non formaliter: The word [Knowledge] is first used to signifie the knowledge of man: It is translated to press to us that Incomprehensible perfection of God, which we cannot otherwise conceive of or express. Yet when ever we make use of the term, we cannot by it our selves attain to a conception, positive and true, of any higher thing then such knowledge as our own, with some negative additions, for removal of the Imperfections; as that it is Infinite, &c. so that man can have no true positive Conception of the Nature of that which in God we call Knowledge: Only he apprehendeth it to be somewhat like that which in man is called Knowledge. But Like is not the same. As Goclenius out of Aristot. [...] non sunt [...]. similia Analogia non sunt ejusdem generis: non sunt eadem genere. It is therefore a proper speech to say [Knowledge is not in God] and proper to say, it is in man: But yet it is a necessary speech to say [God knows] because we have no fitter expression for that perfection of God, which we so call. Aquin. de Veritate Mater. zda Qu. 1. saith, Et quia nulla Ratio significata per ipsum nomen definit ipsum Deum, nullum nomen à nobis impositum est propriè nomen ejus; sed est propriè creaturae quae definitur ratione significata per nomen: Et tamen ista nomina quae suns Creaturarum nomina Deo attribuuntur secundum quod in Creaturis aliqua similitudo ejus representatur. The third Opinion which he there rejecteth is, That Knowledge is attributed to God Metaphorically, as Anger is; against which he opposeth his fourth, Et ideo aliter dicendum est, quod scientia Deo attributa significat aliquid quod in Deo est.] As if these might not well consist! Even a Metaphorical expression doth expresse something that is in God, though it expresse it but Metaphorically. And in Qu. undecima, he hath no better answer to the fifth Objection, which is drawn from [the greater distance between God and us, then between Ens Creatum & non Ens] then this, Ad 5m dicendum, quod Enti & non Enti aliquid secundum analogiam convenit: quod ipsum non ens analogicè dicitur Ens: ut dicitur in 4o Metaph. Ʋnde nec distantia quae est inter creaturam & Deum communitatem analogicè impedire potest. If the Analogy between Gods Acts, Knowledge, Will, and ours, be no nearer then between Ens & non ens, sure it is not such as you imagine, and here express. And contra Gentil. l. 1. c. 31. he confesseth, that in omni nomineà nobis dicto, quantum ad modum signandi imperfectio invenitur quae Deo non competit, quamois res signata aliquo modo eminenti Deo conveniat. Now scire, velle, agere, a [...]e terms properly fitted only to mans imperfect Mode of Knowing, Willing, Acting and do afford us no positive Conception of any other: so that if we could devise some genus which did comprehend Gods acts perfectè and mans imperfectè, as Ens doth substance and Accident, yet that must not be Knowledge or Will: For these are the proper names of the Genus imperfectum: As if you should say, Substantia est Accidens. A certain kinde of Comprehension of the Creature God hath, whose Nature being to us unknown, the proper name is unknown too, and therefore we are fain to call it by the proper name of mans comprehension, [Page 34] i. e. Intellection and Science. And all Divines confess, that as to the order of knowing, and so as to the name we must first begin with the creature, to whom the name is first applicable. So Aquinas contra Gentil. l. 1. c. 35. Quia ex rebus aliis in Dei cognitionem pervenimus, res nominatim de Deo & aliis rebus dictorum, per prius est in Deo secundum suum modum; sed ratio nominis per posterius: unde & nominari dicitur à suis causatis. So Goclenius Lexic. Philosoph. de Analog. Duo sunt distinguenda; nimirum res ipsae per nomina significatae, & nominum impositio. Ad res ipsas quod attinet, prius ex de Deo prae dicantur, quam de creaturis. Atque hic propriè ordo est & convenientia, quam habent creaturae ad Deum; cujus ordinis causa dicuntur nomina Analogicè de Deo & de Creaturis praedicari. Quod vero attinet ad nominum Rationem & Impositionem prius iis nominibus app [...]llatae sucrunt res creatae quam Deus. Quare quod dicimus analogicè praedicari nomina de Deo & de Creaturis, quia prius de Deo quam de Creaturis: de Analogia reali seu secundum rem, non autem secundum nominis rationem intelligendum est. Zanchy hath the same words, whose they are first I know not. How fit a speech this is, de Analogia reali, I leave to others to judge: but all grant that the Name is first applied to the Creature, and thence to God. Now all this holds of meer Metaphorical expressions.
To use Burgersdicius dist [...]ibution, I yield that these names applied to God and the Creature, are not Homonyma à casu, (such as Aquinas cont Gentil. ubi sup. expresseth his meer aequivocals to be) but à consilio. But whether the Ratio Homonymiae be in Rebus, or in nobis, is not easie certainly to determine. Keckerman saith, Ambigua ex similitudine conceptus est, cum rebus toto genere diversis, ut Deo & Creaturis, idem nomen tribuitur ex cognatione quam mens format. Nimirum intellectus noster ut atque idcircò in Deo nihil concipit directè, sed obliquè ex similitudine quadam, & imagine rei sinitae tanquam objecti sibi congruentis. Hinc a nobis Deo & attributis ejus voces certae, propriae ac direct [...] imponi nequiverunt, sed indirectae tantum, homonymae, & ex similitudine eâ qua Deus nobis repraesentatur in creaturis tanquam effectis, quae repraesentatio valde imperfecta est. Nomen Jehova, i. e existentis, sibi ipsi imposuit Deus, at nos ne id quidem directè concipimus: reliqua autem quae Deo tribuimus, ut misericordiam, Justitiam, &c. cjusmodi vocibus exprimimus quae directè impositae sunt virtutibus hominum significandis, indirectè autem ad Dcum pertinent, quatenus nos tales in Deo virtutes similitudine earum quae in hominibus sunt virtutum concipimus. Ʋnde non minùs pic quam scite Cyrillus, in his quae de Deo dicuntur, Maxima scientia est Ignorantiam confiteri: & Augustinus, Deus, inquit, magnus est, sed sine quantitate, Bonus, sed sine qualitate: ut verò à nobis magnum sine quantitate, bonum sine qualitate directè & plenè concipi, est impossibile, &c. Et Julius Scaliger, Nullis, ait, vocibus tam plenè Deum significamus, quam iis quae Ignorantiam nostram praetendunt.
But suppose it be granted, that the Ratio Homonymiae is not only in nobis, sed in rebus, the question will remain, Whether it be ob inaequalem generis attributionem, or only ob similitudinem, vel mutuam rerum ad se invicem habitudinem? and so be Tropical? Mr. K. asserteth the former (under the name of Analogy of Attribution.) The Scotists have long defended then Doctors Assertion, that Deus non est in genere. Vid. Fab. Faventin. Phys. Scot. Theorem. 96. his Vindication against Greg. Ariminensis and Bacconius: and many others of them have done this at large. So doth Wickleff. in his Trialog.
And if this hold, then nothing can be attributed to God and the Creature by this Analogy, per inaequalem generis attributionem. Yea Aquinas himself oft saith, [Page 35] Deus non est in genere (as Sarnanus notes) in 1. p. q. 3. a. 5. & 1. d. 8. q. 4. a. 2. 3m. & 1. cont. Gent. c. 25. though after in q. de Potentia q. 7. a. 3. ad ult. Concedit Deum esse Genere substantiae reductivè: which Scotus refuteth. So Estius in [...] m Sent. d. 8. §. 10. denieth God to be in ullo genere. And Sarnanus hath no more to say for it in his Conciliation (pag. 15) then this, Esse in genere stat dupliciter: primo modo ut pars subjectiva contenta in illo genere: Et sic negatur Deum esse in genere. Secundo modo, ut principium Continens ipsum Genus: Et hoc modo Deus per appropriationem est in Genere substantiae. Vid. Gab. Biel. 1. Sent. dist. 8. q. 1. But this is not for God to be in genere, but for that Genus to be in God.
As Burgersdicius saith, Omnium longissimè à Synonymis absunt homonyma a Casu, quae{que} causam homonymiae habent in nobis: propriùs ad synonymorum naturam accedunt Tropica, ac imprimis Analoga: at omnium proximè quae ambigua sunt ob inaequalem attributionem. That these words are not spoken of God and the creature univocè all of us agree, and the Schoolmen have fully evinced. Also that they are not spoken purè aequivocè, we are also agreed, and the said Schoolmen have evinced (as particularly Aquin. in sum. de Verit. ubi sup. by many Reasons: And Zanchius de Natura Dei borrows many of them.) But which of the other kindes of homonymy they belong to, is the doubt. Mr. K. thinks that which of all other is the nearest to synonymy: I think not so: but rather to the Tropical or Analogical, strictly so called, that is, vel propter similitudinem simplicem, vel proportionem (if not some of them, to those that have the Rationem homonymiae in nobis) Jacchaeus saith (Metaph. l. 1. c. 6.) Ego vero mallem istam Analogiam r [...]ferre ad proportional [...]tatis Analogiam, non Metaphoricam illam (quomodo videre attribuitur oculo & menti) sed propriam, quomodo principium dicitur de corde, & fundamento domus. So he disclaims Mr. K's Analogy of Attribution: If the thing be not utterly uncertain to us, who know so little of Gods nature. But that we may venture on a conjecture, I should rather set the Creature at a greater distance from God then they do: and think that these Attributes are all Tropical, somewhat Metonymical, but mostly Metaphorical. I never saw (in Aquinas or any other Schoolman that spoke for it) any cogent Reason to prove, that Intelligere, Velle, Agere, Amare, are attributed to God in any other kinde then Reminisci, Gaudere, Odio habere, Irasci, &c. Only a gradual difference, I easily acknowledge, viz. That Intelligere & Velle having lesse Imperfection, have therefore lesse impropriety. And who knows not that there is a wide difference of this sort among Metaphors, some being very near, and some so farre fetcht, as to be Catachrestical Durandus saith (in 1. sent dist. 34. q. 4) Nullum nomen attribuimus Deo nisi ex Creaturis: non enim ponimus nomen nisi rei quam intelligimus; & quia non intelligimus [...] eum, nisi ex creaturis, & tantum quantum concludimus excreaturis, ideo nullum nomen imponimus Deo nisi excreaturis, & quantum ad illa, quae concludimus convenire Deo excreaturis: constat autem quod non omnia nomina quae attribuimus Deo dicuntur de eo translativè & metaphori [...]è, &c. Solum autem illa nomina dicuntur de Deo translativè & metaphoricè quae significant speciales qu dditates rerum creatarum: vel perfectiones secundum modum creaturis convenientem, ut Leo, Agnus, Sentire, &c. Quia res significata per haec nomina non est in Deo, sed aliqua ejus similitudo, ut fortitudo, mansuc [...]udo, & cognitio singularium, quae in nobis pertinet ad sensum. But I would fain see it proved, That Intelligere, Velle, Agere, do not as properly signifie perfectiones secundum modum Creaturis convenientem, as sentire doth? And when we say segetes fluctuant, fluctnation is no more proper to the motion of the waters, then Intelligere, Velle, Agere, are to the perfections and action of man, or other rational creatures. And whereas they say that the terms are applied to [Page 36] God, with a Remotion of the Imperfections which they imply in us, I answer, So they may say of those lower terms, which they confesse to be Metaphorical, only allowing a gradual difference of impropriety. Nor doth it follow therefore that there is no truth in these expressions of God, or that they are no helps to our knowledge of him, or means of demonstration. For Metaphors are not as pure equivocals: There's some common reason in the similitude, though in the first and proper sense the name be proper to one. When we say, Segetes fluctuant, we expresse not only Motion, wherein both agree, but a motion of the Corn like that of the Water. I think, as I said before, that it is no more proper to call God Scientem, Volentem, Agentem, then to call the Firmament a Nut-shell, because both seem to have a convexity or concavity, or contain something else within, &c. Or to call the Sunne Reptile, or a creeping thing, because it moves, and so do creeping things: or then it is proper to call Knowledge, Light, or to put Video for Intelligo (as Mr. K. cals God the fountain of Light before.) The Scripture saith, God is Light: yet I think this will be easily confessed a Metaphor: and I think it is but Metaphora propinquior, to say, Deus Intelligit, Vult, Agit, &c. And this I judge after long consideration of what Aquinas hath said, 1. q. 14. a. 1. & q. 19. a. 1. & alibi: and many other Schoolmen to the like purpose.
Shall I adde one Argument for the Negative (that it is not by Analogy of Attribution, that Knowledge, Will, Power, &c. are attributed to God and the Creature; as Ens is to Substance and Accident) ad hominem specially? That Knowledge which is the same thing with Will and Power, cannot be the one of the Analogates with our Knowledge which is not the same; in this kinde of Analogy ob inaequalem generis distributionem: (supposing Knowledge to be the Genus Analogum.) But Gods Knowledge is maintained by those that I dispute with, to be the same with his Will and Power) many say, they differ but denominatione extrinsecâ:) Therefore, &c. For the proof of the major, consider: Else on the same grounds [Power] might be thus analogically spoken of Gods Knowledge and mans Power: For where there is no difference in the Thing, there needs to be none in the Name, as requisite from the Nature of the Thing (but only from some extrinsick respect or use) But Power may not Analogically be spoken de Potestate humana, & scientia divina Ergo, &c. Common reason and use of speech confirms the minor. It seems therefore to be evident truth, that as it is from similitude, or some Tropical respect, that Gods Immanent acts, have divers names, rather then one alone: so is it from the same reason that they have these particular names, rather then other: And consequently that these names are not Analoga inaequalis Attributionis naturae communis; but Analoga Proportionis, or Tropical. Durandus (in sent. 1. dist. 2. q. 2.) saith, Alia est opinio quae mihi videtur verior, viz. quod distinctio attributorum, secundum rationem non potest sumi, nisi per comparationem ad aliquam realem diversitatem actu existentem in creaturis, vel possibilem. Quod prob. 1. sic. Differentia Rationis, nisi sit falsa & vana, licet sit completive ab intellectu, oportet tamen quod habeat fundamentum in re: sed differentia attributorum secundum rationem non potest habere sufficiens fundamen [...] in natura divina absolutè accepta; nisi comparetur ad realem diversitatem quae in creaturis est, vel esse potest, ergo differentia attributorum divinorum secundum rationem, non potest verè sumi nisi per comparationem ad creaturas. Major patet: ratio enim, quam intellectus format, nisi fundetur aliqualiter in re, ficta est & vana, &c. Vide reliq.
I will only adde the words of Burgersdicius Metaphys. l. 2. c. 8. §. 1. sequuntur ea (attributa) quae creaturis communicari posse diximus, saltem [...]: quae [Page 37] tamen analogia non in ipsis Dei attributis, sed in ipsorum effectis fine operationibus quaerenda est. Nam cum attributa infinita sint, aeque atque ipsa Dei essentia, & attributa incommunicabilia, nullam habent c [...]m creaturis [...], nisi in suis suis operationibus circa objecta Creata & finita. Apply this to Immanent Acts.
§. 8.
Mr. K. pag. 94. IF Fore-knowledge in God and the Creature be not univocally the same, as surely they are not, then is this Fore-knowledge attributed to God and the Creature, either Equivocally or Analogically: If Equivocally, then hath the Fore-knowledge of God and the Creature only the same Name: But that is not so; for God, I hope, fore-knows as truly as the Creature, and the Creature may sometimes truly fore-know. So that here is more then a nominal agreement between Gods and the Creatures fore-knowledge. It remains therefore that this fore-knowledge be attributed to God and the Creature Analogically: but is this Analogie either of Proportion or Attribution? If of Proportion, then either God or the Creature is is said to fore-know, but either Metaphorically or Metonymically. If only Metaphorically; I pray which of them is but Metaphorically said to fore-know? Not the Creature, &c. And surely much less may God be only Metaphorically said to fore-know these, and all other things that shall come to pass in all Ages. If only Metonymically, as some things are said to be healthy, because they have the signs of sanity in them, (I am bold to use the Boyes instance in this case) Is either God or the Creature only Metonymically said to fore-know? Not the Creature, &c. Not God, for he is the Author of our fore-knowledge: and therefore though his essence be not the subject of his fore-knowledge, [...]or his fore knowledge an Accident of his Nature, yet is he said to fore-know without being beholden to any such poor Trope for it. It rests therefore that fore-knowledge is attributed to God by more then this Analogie of Proporoion, and consequently by that of Attribution Now I demand which is the famosius Analogatum? Gods fore-knowledge, or the Creatures? Questionless Gods: there being infinitely greater Cause to set the Crown on Gods fore-knowledge, then on that of the Creatures, then there is to set it on substance rather then accident. If so, &c. then onward, as Analogatum per se posi [...]um stat per famosiori Analogato, so true fore-knowledge mentioned by it self, must alwayes be construed of the fore-knowledge of God: and therefore fore-knowledge is most properly attributable to God. And thus being now willing to resign my place, Haec sufficiant pro nunc.
§. 8.
R. B. IF I had once done with you, I would take heed of dealing with a Chairman again in haste, for your sake: for I finde I run upon a great disadvantage. For the credit of such mens understandings is so great with themselves at least, that they need no Argument, but their bare affirmation to carry the Cause. Your sole Argument [sic dico] doth put me harder to it, then if you had many: For what to say to this, I do not well know. Dispute against it, I cannot: and to set my Negation against your affirmation, will not do, till we stand on even ground.
1. Aquinas de verit. and many another Schoolman (and Zanchy out of them) might have helpt you to more cogent Arguments, against meer aequivocal denomination. When you speak of Gods fore-knowing, as [truly] that word [truly] [Page 38] is either opposed to feigned and false, or to improperly: that in God which the term [fore-knowledge] doth denote, is Truly in him, and him alone, but that which the word [fore-knowledge] doth properly and primarily signifie, is not in God.
2. Our Rabbi▪s (as you call them ab alto with a smile) do seem to us punies, to make a fuller distribution then you; as I have before shewed: and therefore we take yours to be defective, and consequently your reasoning void: I have told you of divers that please me better.
3. How greedily did I reade on, and follow you at the heels, to see how you proved that it is not spoken of God Metaphorically? and when I come to the businesse, What's the proof? Why you say [surely much lesse may God be onely metaphorically said to fore-know.] You passe your word on it: And this is the knotty Argument that I cannot answer, because I am not of your standing in the University: A little more of the University would have done me no harm (as you say) when I am to deal with this kinde of Argument.
4. Our Tutor Burgersdieius told us, I remember, that in caetoris tropis non minus est homonymiae locus, quam in Metaphora. And therefore Metaphorical and Metonymical, are not a sufficient enumeration.
5. Do not think ever the worse of your self for using the Boyes instance: for (as you have partly salved your credit by intimating that you are above it, so) Aquinas, Scotus, and most of the Schoolmen that I have read, besides Zanchius, and many another of our great Divines, do make use of the same instance: And to play with this bigger sort of Boyes, is no such disgrace to you.
6. Here I meet with a thing that runs in the form of a Reason: [for he is the Author of our fore-knowledge] therefore he fore-knoweth not onely Metonymically. I confesse the Conclusion is true; but I see not the reason of the consequence. As I remember a Metonymy of the effect is, when the efficient is signified by the name of the effect, either by a Verb, as pallet pro metuit, or an Adjective, as mors pallida; or a Substantive, as scelus pro scelesto (I purposely choose the Boyes examples, as best beseeming me.) And I have heard men often call Mr. Nath. Ward, Discolliminium, and the simple Cobler: And the Author of that Comedy, by the name of Ignoramus. I confesse it is a good Argument [He is the Author of our fore-knowledge, therefore he hath fore-knowledge eminenter, or somewhat that is more excellent then fore-knowledge.) But I dare not say, that God hath formally in himself whatsoever he is the Author of. For he is the Author of Nutrition, Augmentation Composition, of Sorrow, of Fear, of Hell, of Worms, Toads and Vipers. But it was the former (the Metaphorical Denomination, and also that of strict proportion, which some distinguish from the Metaphorical) which I had hoped you would have disproved. But I must take what will be had.
7. You think you plead for the Glory of the Divine Majesty, when you tell us he need not be beholden to a poor Trope. As if we should dispute, whether the Sunne do creep as reptilia do? and I say, Yes, Metaphorically: and you will stand up for the honour of the Sun, and say, we debase it; and that it doth creep without being beholden to a poor Trope for it: Or if the Question were, Whether the Sunne be a Vegetative, or sensitive creature? and I say, Yes, Metonymically: for it causeth Vegetation and sense. And you will say, It is Vegetative without being beholden to a Trope. What a Patron is he of the honour of mankinde, that will prove that he is a Worm, a Beast, Nothing, and his life a shadow, [Page 39] a dream, a Weavers shuttle, without being beholden to a poor Trope! Yet are these unspeakably nearer, then the names of man and his acts, to God: for inter finitum & infinitum nulla est proportio.
8. You conclude that the famosius Analogatum, is Gods fore-knowledge, your proof is [Questionless it is so:] As strong as the rest. But, when I look further I finde somewhat like a Reason: [there being Infinitely greater cause to set the Crown on Gods fore-knowledge, &c.] My dread of Gods most sacred Majesty, forbiddeth me to set on him such a Crown of Vanity. As if the Sun must be the famosius Analogatum inter Reptilia, because the Crown of [Creeping] must be set on its head! What if we should yield to you, that the term [Knowledge, Will, Action, &c.] being first Metaphorically applied to God, that yet it is partly Analogical quoad inaequalem Generis attributionem, the term expressing (though improperly as to one) a Nature common to both? It would not yet follow, that here the more noble sort, even Divine Knowledge, &c. were the famosius Analogatum: For though it be most excellent and unexpressibly glorious in it self, yet the term agreeing first with the lower, even humane Knowledge, therefore that is the famosius Analogatum, as being the thing most famously and notoriously meant by that term. If you ask, Whether the Sunne do glissen (as Glowworms, or rotten wood) or do Rutilare or Candere? If you say, Yea; yet I think the Sunne here is not the famosius Analogatum, though the light which this word intendeth be more eminently in the Sun, then in the other things.
You conclude, that [true fore-knowledge mentioned by it self, must alwayes be understood of the fore-knowledge of God.] Is that so indeed?
1. Why then do the Schoolmen generally acknowledge, that the names are all first applicable to the Creature, though the thing be most excellently in God?
2. Then, it seems, it is not a strictly proper speech to say [Man knows, or fore-knows, or Wils, or acteth:] for none of the Homonyma, are spoken of both, in strict propriety. But if you would undertake to prove, that God may in as strict propriety be said to Know, Will or Act, as man is, there are many that would undertake to prove the terms Univocal: which in most Divines Judgement, would be to prove, that man is God: an opinion, which our new world in the Moon (in Anglia lunatica) have very confidently imbraced of late years.
In a word, Sir, my thoughts of man, and his Acts, Knowing, Willing, are so low, and my thoughts of the Infinite God, so high, or at a losse, when I go about to have any positive, true apprehensions of his Nature, that I conceive you and I can no more tell what that is in God which we call Knowing, Willing, Acting, then my Horse can tell what Reasoning or Discourse is in me, or thereabouts. And yet I believe that the Knowledge of God is eternal Life too, viz. Now (as to the beginning) to know that there is a God, and that there is somewhat in Him which mans Knowledge, Will, Goodness, Justice, &c. have some exceeding, low, distant resemblance of, and which we cannot better apprehend or express then under such notions, and by such terms; it being yet in it self of more unconceivable excellency. And though I know the Schoolmen are confident (without proof) that Scire, Velle, &c. do express no Imperfection, but only Modal, and therefore may be applied to God (which I conjecture will also be your Argument) yet I do not believe that Assertion. Comparatively to lower or equal Creatures, it may be said, that it is not Imperfection, which they express. But [Page 40] absolutely or comparatively as to God, it is Imperfection: Not only some accident or Modus, but the very thing exprest by these terms, is Imperfect: Else the Creature shall have something equal to God, and so be God. And if it were but a Modal Imperfection; yet when the term doth strictly and properly expresse that Imperfect Modus it self, as well as the Thing, then that term cannot be applied to God any nearlier then Tropically. Knowledge, Will, Action, and all the terms fitted to man, are so strictly fitted to express the humane Mode, as well as that which you separate in your Intellect, and call perfect, that it cannot be applied to one without the other, but abusively or tropically; No more then [c [...]e [...]ping] is applicable to the swift motion of the Sun, when the term doth intimately signifie the slowness and Mode of the motion, with the motion it self.
God forbid that I should doubt, whether that in God be Perfect, which we call Knowledge, Will, Action: But what it is that under these names of infinitely remote similitude we do express, what earthly man can tell? Because I believe Gods Immanent acts to be perfect, therefore I believe them not to be the same thing that man apprehendeth under these terms.
Oh that frail man were more acquainted with his Nothingness! then would he not dare so to lift up himself in comparison with his Maker! Then would not the Christian world for so many hundred years have been filled with quarrels about unsearchable Mysteries; and the great Divines of the Church, be the great Dividers of the Church by voluminous contentions, and censo [...]ious, uncharitable, zealous emulations about Gods secrets: They would not have fastened upon utter uncertainties, and things unrevealed, and then have stiled their fancies [the Orthodox Doctrine] and reproached or quarrelled with those that were dissenters. The world would not have been altogether by the ears about things that they know no more then a beast knows what is the soul of man; such as many of the Schoolmens writings are, and most of those points in which the Controversies between the Arminians and anti-Arminians, the Jesuites and Dominicans, are untimately resolved: Yea, and your Academ cal Chairs would have been better imployed: and then God would not have been so provoked against them: Nor should I have needed to fear that your Chair is coming down, while I reade here that you are coming down; nor have cause to salute you so sadly at your descent, as fearing a future vacancy of your resigned place.
§. 9.
Mr. K. Pag. I Shall now see what Mr. Baxter saith, though not to answer this Argument, or any other, yet to detract somewhat from the Reputation of the Conclusion, that there can be no new Immanent act in God, but all are Eternal.
§. 9.
R. B. TO feign a wrong end to a mans speeches, is usually the way to fasten on them a false and alien sense. I therefore who am better acquainted with my own End and meaning then M [...]. K. is (as well as he knows me, by looking through his Prospective, Glass from Cornwell to Kidderminster) shall better acquaint others what was my meaning in the words, which he fastens on. And this is the true and plain Analysis of my words.
Having affirmed Justification to be a transient act, and that therefore the Inception [Page 41] of it argueth no mutation in God, I was fore't to meet with the opinion of Dr Twiss, who takes it to be an Immanent Act, and therefore if it should begin de novo, it would argue a change in God. (Not speaking of that in fore Conscientiae.)
These two Conclusions therefore I took as certain, and necessary to be held of every knowing Christian.
1. That God doth not change.
2. That God doth not pardon or justifie men from Eternity; (no nor from the time of Christs death) and therefore that he doth in time justifie and forgive men, even when they believe. These two Conclusions being Certain and necessary, I take the later as assaulted by D. Twiss; who thereby would make them seem inconsistent.
His Argument is, Justification and Remission are Immanent Acts, therefore from Eternity. To this I answer, 1. By denying the Antecedent: For I had before shewed, that they are Transient acts, and what Transient acts they are. 2. Having premised, that no acts are Immanent in God Positively but onely Negatively (as Schibler speaks;) I answered, That many doubt whether Immanent acts are any further Eternal then Transient acts (which I will open anon when we come to it:) and therefore that this is not a matter of such Certainty as the Proposition opposed is: and therefore Uncertainties must be reduced to Certainties, and not Certainties to Uncertainties: q. d. I am sure God doth not pardon and Justifie from Eternity from plain Texts of Scripture: But you are not sure that all Immanent acts are Eternal any more then Transient are; Therefore if these two Propositions were as inconsistent as you imagine, yet I would rather hold the former, and let go the later, then hold the latter and let go the former. Here I supposed it objected, that it is not to be endured that any should argue God of mutability: but the foresaid Doctrine doth so: Therefore, &c. To which I answered, that there is no change in God: and they that do hold this opinion, do yet hold it is consistent with Gods Immutability: and I gave two or three short touches of their reasoning: If you ask me, whom I mean, I answer, I mean Lychetus, Pennottus, Franciscus a Sancta Clara, and in part Suarez and Burgersdicius, in the words which I shall anon cite in his Metaphysicks. And mark that I do not say, that these plead for the Inception or Cessation of Immanent acts: but that Immanent acts are new as Transient are; that is, not quoad substantiam actus, but transitionem in objectum extraneum. For here it is supposed, that it is not those Immanent acts, whose object is God himself, which is spoke of, but only those that are about the Creature; Note also, that I never thought of owning this opinion; but had ever owned the opinion of the Eternity of all Immanent acts; and so farre as the matter is discernable, do hold to it still: but I take the point in Question to be past our reach; and therefore not of such Certainty, as to encourage us to reject a plainly revealed truth, upon supposition of their inconsistency.
After this I returned to my first Position, and made it my full, final Answer, that Remission and Justification are Transient acts, and not Immanent, and that in this I had most Divines on my side, though they did not ordinarily explain the Nature of this Transient Act: which thereupon I more fully explain'd.
Thus, Reader, I have given the true Analysis of all these words about Immanent acts, which Mr. K. makes the occasion of his quarrel with me: and which [Page 42] he layeth such a heavy charge on. And, I think, if I had said no more to him, but onely given you this true Analysis, it had been enough to satisfie the impartial, and Judicious, and to free my words from that sandy incoherence and senslesness, which (not understanding them) he doth fasten on them in his charge; and to vindicate my self from those corrupt intentions and errours which he intimates.
§. 10.
Mr. K. FIrst, saith he, Acts have not the respect of the Adjunct to its Subject, but an effect to its cause: Therefore new Immanent Acts will not inferre an alteration in God: Therefore, &c.
To this antecedent, I answer, that no Act is properly an effect, or relates as such to the Cause: the Act is rather the Causality then the effect, as Mr. Baxter may please to learn from his great Doctors in the Metaphysicks, whom I think enough to name in general, though he useth to quote them so exactly, as it were the Chapter and verse.
§. 10.
R. B. IF I have learning enough to understand your meaning, you endeavour in these words to prove two Conclusions. The first and principal (and I think, the whole scope of your writing) is, that I am Ignorant and unlearned. The second and subordinate is, that Immanent Acts are certainly Eternal, or that the change of them will inferre a change in God. The first you prove by my Pedantick citing of Schibler and Burgersdicius, the Boyes companions, and that as if they were Doctors in the Metaphysicks, and that so exactly, &c. which you think it enough to name. To this I answer, 1. Your Argument labours of two diseases, 1. Obscurity: which may make some, that know you not, conjecture that your design was scarce honest, which you so carry under hand by intimations, when yet it seems the great Cause of this your undertaking: For my part, I think you would never have mentioned my name here, but to this end. 2. Of Needlesness: If you had stooped so low as to consult me in this business, and opened to me your design, I could by three lines have saved you the writing of these leaves: but that's too late: But yet I may prevent your voluminous labour perhaps for the future, if I do it yet. Be it known therefore to all men by these presents that I R. B. do confess my self ignorant and unlearned, especially compared with such as Mr. K. and his Genius. Habetis cons [...]tentem reum. What need you any more Witnesses? I hope now you may save the main labour of your next writing.
Yet, let me tell you the reason of my crime, a little more fully. I take the common good to be the best. I have about thirty T [...]actates of Metaphysicks by me (an ill workman, that needs so many tools) and I value these two or three Common ones which I cited before all the rest: and I think so do the Schools that use them most commonly. Nor do I see any great reason hitherto to take Mr. K. for a more learned, authentick, unquestionable Doctor in the Metaphysicks, then Suarez, Schibler or Burgersdicius, as highly as I value him above my self. Nor indeed did I ever before this, hear of his name (to my remembrance;) much lesse of his Metaphysical writings. But as soon as ever Mr. K's Metaphysicks come [Page 43] to my hands, if I do not bow to them, & vestigiatanti Philosophi adorare, then let him call me an unreverent fellow.
Now to your second business: Where, 1. I might better have been understood, if you had not left out the fore-going words; [by Immanent, they must needs mean Negatively, not Positively.] For by this they that see all might have understood that, 2. It is Gods acts that I speak of, 3. And you do out of your own brain, affix the Ergo, as if it were mine, making that an Argument, which I there take as presupposed. The rest we will come to anon.
§. 11.
Mr. K. THus when the fire warms my hands, the heating is not the effect; but the Heat produced in my hand by the fire. This heat now is considerable three manner of wayes. I shall not honour my Papers with the name of Suarez for this, but referre my Reader, if he be a young Scholar, and not satisfied in it, to his Smith and Brerewood.
§. 11.
R. B. YEt again! You will make men believe that I am grown to some Reputation of Learning, when you think it necessary to use so many words, to prove me a freshman. Is not one word of your mouth enough to blast the reputation of such a puny?
§. 12.
Mr. K. EIther, 1. As it encreaseth, and in order to the highest degree of heat, and so it is called Motion, which is nothing else but the Terminus in fieri. Or 2. As tis received into the subject, and so it is called Passion, heating like beating being as well taken in a Passive sense as an active. Or, 3. As it is derived from the Agent, and so it is called action: but this action again is considerable two manner of wayes; Either Physically or Logically. Physically, and so the Patient is the subject of it: the heat which undergoes these several denominations, being in my hand, as was supposed. 2. Logically, and so this action is but an extrinsecal denomination, and the Agent is the subject of it: Now take it how you will, Action is an adjunct, as denominating the agent, no way an effect as an action, &c.
§. 12.
R. B. 1. THe word [Effect] is sometime taken for every thing that hath a Being and a Cause, and so every Action is an Effect, as having a Being dependant on its Cause: sometime it is taken more restrainedly, for that only which is permanent after the Action, or is Effected by it, and so Action is not an Effect. 2. The use of your distribution or distinctions to our business seems to me so small, as that I know not well to what end you bring them forth. 3. The order of your distinguishing I have no great minde to learn. I should rather have distinguished Logical and Physical Action, in the first place, had there been any use for it. 4. But your Logical action we have nothing to say to: Nor did I speak de subjecto praedicationis. 5. Yet I have no great desire of imitating [Page 44] you, in calling the Agent, the subject of the extrinsecal denomination [viz. Action.] It is your Physical Action, which is so denominated: Though of the verbal predication [agit] I would willingly say, that the Agent is the subject. 6. But it is your Physical Action which we have now to do with: and that not as it is in Patiente, for so it is Passion, and not formally Action. Whether Scotus opinion of a Real difference be true or not (which yet may have more said for it then some superficial answerers do take notice of) yet formally its like it will be granted, that they are not the same: And therefore you should speak of Action as Action, Ut dicit egressionem & dependentiam ab agente, and not as it signifieth Passion, that is, Reception of Action, and the effect of it: and so the Patient is not the subject of Action; Nor do I believe it a fit speech to say, that Calefaction is in your hand, though Calor be. But we must hear you further; to how great purpose we shall see.
§. 13.
Mr K. 1. NOw take it how you will, Action is an adjunct, as denominating the Agent, no way an Effect, as an Action. 2. Nor doth it carry that stile in any of these learned Sophies, commonly quoted by Mr. Baxter with so much reverence.
§. 13.
R. B. 1. SAy you so! is it an adjunct as denominating the Agent, take it how I will? What if I take it, [as it is received into the Subject, and called Passion] which is your second sense? Why said you that your Logical Action was an extrinsecal denomination of the Agent, if your Physical Action be so too? When you seemed by this to difference them? 2. I marvel that my Reverence to these Sophies should be the matter of so many of your lines, and you should think it necessary to rehearse it so oft: Sure you are jealous that your Reader will be very unobservant of your weighty observations▪ But, Sir, is not Reverence a sign of Lowliness? Why then are you offended at it? You should rather applaud me, and say, If R▪ B. do so much Reverence a Suarez, a Schibler, a Burgersdicius, if he knew me, how much more would he reverence me! But, to deal more plainly with you, the further I go in perusal of your learned Labours, the more I perceive my Reverence to aba [...]e. Let any man except your self judge by the next passage, whether you deserve more reverence then these Rabbies and Sophies (as you have honourably be-Titled them.) You boldly and flatly affirm, That Action [is no way an Effect, as an action, nor doth it carry that stile in any of these learned Sophies, &c.] Either this Assertion is True or False. If True, Mr. K. hath got little: but I am false, if this be true. If it be false, either Mr. K. knew it to be so, or he did not. If he did, and yet spoke it, and that so confidently, then he must pardon me for Reverencing these childish Authors before him. If it be false and he knew it not, then, 1. He is one that will speak boldly what he knows not, and accordingly to be believed. 2. And then it seems he knows not what he supposeth his Boyes to know, and he looks at as his A. B. C. I will finde out a Tertium to salve his credit as soon as I can. If there be no other, I'le lay it on a defect of memory, conjunct with a certain audacity, to tell the world in print, that those things are not written which he read when he was a boy, and hath since forgotten.▪
Let us try the truth of his Assertion. I must not [...]ell him of some Schoolmen or any other Philosophical Writers, that call [action] an effect, for then he will say, Those are not the Sophies in Question: It must therefore be the very same men. Let Schibler speak first Met. l. 2. c. 10. Tit. 3. Punc. 2. p. 54. Quod ad actionem immanentem attinet; dicitur ea Immanens ab iramanendo, quod scilicet in agente maneat, Existimo tamen eam non esse intelligendam Positivè, sed Negativè. Nam actio Immanens quâ talis est, est in Agente, hoc sensu, quia non transit ad Patiens. In ipso autem agente non est per modum Adjuncti, sed simpliciter ad ipsum comparatur ut ad Causam. Unde haec Propositio, Homo intelligit, vel disputat, non est ut adjuncti de subjecto, sed ut Effecti de Causa: Et patet: Nam Actio transiens nullum habet subjectum, ne quidem ipsum patiens, ut visum est. Ergo etiam actio Immanens à fortiori non postulat subjectum. Consequentia firma est, quia actio transiens magis est ex subjecto, & magis postulat subjectum, quam actio Immanens. Sed actio Transiens in esse Actionis, nullum habuit subjectum, &c. Ergo & confirmatur, quod Actio ut sic, non dicit nisi egressum à virt [...]te activa alicujus agentis. Egressus autem opponitur [...] esse in. Et hinc relinquitur generatim loquendo de actione ut sic, eam non postulare subjectum. Ne{que} enim Genus debet habere Naturam repugnantem suis speciebus, &c.
Yet more, that you may be past doubt of Mr. K's Veracity and Ingenuity, lib. 1. cap. 22. Tit. 28. Art. 1. Caeterum vox effecti ambigua est, &c. Primò Propriè & Adaequatè significat causatum specialiter, nempe cum conn [...]tato respectu ad causam efficientem, &c. Deinde effectum sumitur generalius & per Synecdochem sp [...]ci [...]i pro genere, quomodo dicitur aequipollenter ad Causatum, quomodo jam Cicero loquebatur, &c. Iam praeterea 3o effectum (sicut & Causatum) aliquando specialiter accipiuntur; prout significant esse stans & permanens post actionem: In quo distinguuntur contra effectionem vel actionem, vel motum: atque ita aliqui aiunt Actionem non esse effectum: sed id quo producitur effectus. Hic tamen communius Effectum & Causatum sumuntur, Diciturque id omne Causatum quod habet esse per dependentiam ab aliqua Causa sive sit Actio, sive Res per Actionem facta. Atque ita etiam Ramus in Logic. l. 1. c. 9. Huc, inquit, in doctrina Effecti, pertinet motus & res motu facta, &c. Vid. ult. 11. Et Art. 3. De effecto specialiter dicto. Nihil autem occurrit hic explicandum praeter specialia nomina effectorum; qualia sunt [...] & [...]. Igitur [...] hoc loco nihil aliud est quam ipsa Actio, Damasc. lib. 3. de Orthod. fid. c. 15. eam definit, quod sit efficax & substantialis naturae motus. De hoc effectus genere, hoc est, de Actione, intelligendus est iste Canon, Cessante causa cessat effectus: Effectus inquam qui est [...]: Cessante Patre cessat, (non Filius sed) Generatio Filij: Cessante Architecto cessat (non domus sed) aedificatio. [...] autem opus est post actionem manens, &c. [...] quando{que} generatim significat operationem, sicut & Latina vox Actionis, &c. Vid. reliq.
So in his Compend. Philos de Logic. l. 1. §. 1. c. 5. p. 17. Ad effectum tanquam exemplum ejus pertin [...]t motus, & res motu facta.
And Metaph. l. 2. c. 3. Tit. 17. n. 630. he saith, Resp. Esse ambiguitatem in voce creati entis: Creatum enim Ens quandoque dicitur id solum quod per Actionem creativam incipit esse, quodque est quasi Creationis terminus: Et sic Creatio non est aliquid creatum: Quandoque vero Creatum Ens dicitur omne illud quod▪ dependenter est ab Ente increato, sive id sit per modum Actionis, sive per modum rei factae per actionem. Et hoc modo Creatio est quid Creatum. Callovius Metaphys. Divin. saith, p. 524. In genere causatum est operatio, & [...], vel opus & [...]. Simile quid est in voce Effecti vel Effectus: Dicitur enim quandoque effectum pro eo quod est quasi Actionis Terminus, quomodo domus, v. g. est effectum. Aliquando [Page 46] vero sumitur communiùs ut dicatur effectum quicquid à Causa est, sive id sit per modum Actionis seu motus, sive per modum rei per motum factae; Et sic etiam ipsae Actiones dicuntur effecta, &c. Atque ita sicut nostrae Actiones sunt effecta, ipsae tamen non postulant, ut per alias actiones siant, &c.
So lib. 2. cap. 10. Tit. 3. Art. 3. n. 31, 32. Nam & ipsae Actiones dicentur effectus praecise, & in se, quia habent esse dependens aliunde, &c. So n. 41, 42. & n. 49, 50, 51. Et confirmatur per Aristot. l. 3. Phys. T. 20. Ʋbi ait, eundem Actum esse Agentis tanquam à quo, & patientis tanquam in quo, hoc est, ibi habet respectum effecti; hic vero habet respectum adjuncti.
Again, l. 2 c. 3. Tit. 14. n. 418. Potentia ad suum Actum comparatur ut effectum illius, Ʋnde Intellectio, v. g. esset effectus potentiae intellectivae, &c.
Now let Mr. K's auditors consider the next time he ascendeth his Chair, how farre their great Master is to be credited, and with what Cautions his most confident Assertions must be received. Let a man speak never so many Doctrinal untruths, we may modestly and handsomly confute them without offensive language: but when men speak such palpable untruths in matter of fact, I love not to dispute with them, seeing a man hath no answer for them, beseeming their errour, but a plain desideratur veritas, which seems so unhandsome language that it is usually ill taken what ever be the cause.
But let us hear another of the Sophies, viz. Suarez. Metaph. disp. 18. Sect. 10. n. 8. Quod si nomine Effectus comprehendamus non solum rem productam, sed quicquid à virtute agentis manat, sic concedimus actionem esse aliquo modo effectum agentis, cum sit dependens vel potius ipsamet dependentia ab illo: Esse autem Effectum hoc lato modo, non repugnat causalitati: quin potius in omnibus causis quas hactenus tractavimus, Causalitas est effectus causae, &c.
It were no hard matter to produce more Reverend Sophies for Mr. K. who use the same language and call Actions Effects; but being about so small a matter, I think it is not worth the labour. In thisVid. Alting. Problem. Theolog. part. 1. p. 55. much the Reader may perceive to what a loss of time he may be lead in reading such Controversies, where men leave the Things, and fall upon Persons and Words, out of an earnest desire to finde out some way to cast Contempt upon their Brethren.
§. 14.
Mr. K. VVHat was wont to be more common in horse-fair then An Actio sit in Agente, which with the knack of this hackney distinction, every dull J [...]de could turn at their pleasure, and hold sometimes affirmatively, sometimes negatively. So then thus farre little is said to the prejudice of that truth, that there is no new Immanent act in God?
§. 14.
R▪ B. YOur horse-fair, and hackney distinction, and dull Jade, are passages so profound that I must pass them as unanswerable by any that hath not attained to your Degrees.▪ But doubtless you knew also how common it is to maintain the Negative on other grounds, and to say, that Actio est Agentis, non in Agente: and this is the language that I have hitherto thought fittest: and your contrary judgement alone will scarce move me to change. As for the safety of your [Page 47] Conclusion, I must tell you, it is no such glorious Atchievement for you to vindicate it against one that never opposed or denied it.
§. 15.
Mr. K. BUt 2. Though this should be granted to Mr. Baxter to be true in acts transient, yet an immanent act is questionless an Adjunct, and not onely denominate the Agent, but inhere in it. For I ask, Is Knowing or Willing a Substance or Accident? an Accident questionlesse. If an Accident; In what Subject? Out of the Agent, you will finde no place where it may set the sole of its foot. Therefore it is in the Agent, and so an Adjunct: and if so, sure Immanent acts in God must needs infer [...]n alteration. For
§. 15.
R. B. I Confess your first on-set (so sudden, so causless against a feigned Adversary) made me suspect you to be some pugnacissimum animal (as Dr. Twiss cals his Adversary) but your prosecution puts me out of doubt. 1. Had you confined these speeches of yours only to the Creatures Acts, you had said but as many others have done before you: But it is Gods acts that you speak of, as you ascertain us in your application [and if so, sure Immanent acts in God must needs inferre an alteration.] But indeed do you believe that God is compounded of Substance and Accident? Yea doth the contentious disposition so potently carry you on, that you dare speak in such confident language, as to say that it is [an accident questionless] which you attribute to God? What could Vorstius have said more? I thought you had concurred in opinion with your Brethren, that use to call Gods Immanent acts, as diversified and as distinct from his Essence, only Extrinsick Denominations: But it seems you think otherwise (for a little time, while your hast doth hurry you that way per modum naturae.) 2. If you say, That you meant onely this much [Immanent acts are Accidents inherent in man: Therefore they inferre an alteration in God] You might so easily foreknow that I would deny your Consequence, that me thinks so great a Disputant should not so drily have passed over the proof. I do not stick on the strangeness of the Conclusion it self, that [Immanent acts in God must needs inferre an alteration;] which is against your self and all Divines, who maintain that there are Immanent acts in God. For I doubt not but your haste which the disputing itch provoked you to, caused you to put [Immanent acts] for new Immanent acts.] 3. But its strange, that you could bethink you of no answer that might be made to your Question [If an Accident, in what Subject?] when you know it is so common to deny that Inhesion is necessary to every Accident; And when you know that in this case an esse ab, or a dependant Egresse, is affirmed sufficient by so many. I cited the words of Schibler to that sense even now, where he purposely opposeth that which you asserted, lib. 2. cap. 10. Tit. 3. n. 54, 55. I will not trouble you to rehearse them, it being a Book so farre below you. Now to your Proof.
§. 16.
Mr. K. FOr, 3. Though Action as Action logically considered, be but an [...]xtrinsecal Denomination, and so only denominate the Agent, not inhere in it, as much of Reality as there is in all Transient Actions being in the Patient, even Physically, or rather Metaphysically considered; yet these Immanent astions have their Terms too, say the said Sages, and those in the Agent; he that hath a minde to look it, may soon finde it in Suarez, or his Scapula Schibler, in the predicament of Action. Thus then the first bol [...] hath done little execution against this truth▪ that there can be no new Immanent Acts in God.
§. 16.
R. B. IS this all the proof that we have waited for [Immanent actions have their terms too?] 1. Either you mean it of all Immanent acts, or but of some, if but of some, then it is a learned Argument: [some Immanent acts have their terms: Therefore there can be no new Immanent acts in God.] But I suppose you mean it of All: But then by [terms] do you mean [objects] which sometime are called termini? Or do you mean, the form to which the action tendeth, and which by it is produced or induced? If the first, then the Terminus of these Divine acts which we are speaking of, is oft Without, (as we use to say;) as when God knoweth, Approveth, Willeth, Loveth the Creature. And therefore some few will not call these Immanent acts, but onely those whose object is God himself. But I suppose you mean the later, and then, 3. You might easily foresee, that though I had yielded all that you say of the Creatures acts, yet I would deny it of Gods: And blame me not for it, if I be lesse bold then you: and if I dare not imagine that there is in God either Motus or Terminus ad quem, or effect, or form acquired, when he Knows, Willeth, Approveth or Loveth the Creature. I am in hope that you believe no such thing your self, when the disputing itch is a little allayed. But however, could you possibly think it so obvious and easie a point as to need no proof? Why have we never a word here to that end, who need so many? I love not these Happy Disputers that can prove that by silence, which neither themselves nor any other can prove by Argument. If you will flie to your Analogy, and say [There are Termini actionum Immanentium in man: Therefore there are so in God] I should tell you that you may as wisely say [There are Accidents, Effects and Mutations in man: Therefore there are such in God.] At least I should importune you for the proof of your consequence. 4. But for the Terms of Immanent Actions you say [The said Sages say it] and [he that hath a minde to look it, may soon finde it in Suarez, and his Scapula Schibler] Truly, Sir, I have hitherto hinted your faults in Ironies: but I think it fit to ask you now (seeing it is not once or twice, nor a slip of your pen) how you dare put such things in print, and set so light by honest Truth-telling, and leave such things on record against your self? You that do tanto fastu referre us to Schibler as our Scapula, sure know his Doctrine: or at least, if you know it not, you should not take on you to know it, and say, we may soon finde that in him, which he so largely and purposely disputes against. He saith indeed, that some Immanent acts have terms, as Syllogizing: but that cannot be your meaning: for you well know it will do nothing to inferre your Conclusion: But doth not Schibler (l. 2. c. 10. Tit. 3. art. 3. [Page 49] punct. 1, 2.) largely dispute it, that many Immanent acts have no terms, no not Vision or Intellection! and answer the Objections against him? and conclude that Acti [...] ut sic non dicit respectum ad terminum? And if Intellection have no Term, then Decree, and the rest that we were mentioning in the beginning, can have none in agente. 5. Nay what a great part of the great Philosophers and School-Divines do deny, that Immanent acts are true acts? Scotus takes them to be qualities, and not in the predicament of Action. Soncinus, Ferrariensis (and saith Schibler Thomistae frequenter ita docent) deny them to be true acts. And if so, then sure they have not the terminos of true acts.
And I before told you at the beginning of your Discourse, that we do not all agree with you in your Description of an Immanent act, if you mean that it is such as is not only negatively, but Positively terminated in the Agent, as your words import: You may see Schibler denying it (when you shall condescend to look it in him) in Met. l. 2. c. 10. Tit. 3. n. 54. & Tit. 5. art. 1. n. 64. But let this be how it will in man, I do very confidently deny that there is any such act in God, either of Knowledge or Will, as is either in the predicament of Action, or hath any Terminus in himself, further then as himself is the object of any act. And therefore you should first prove, that such Acts are in God at all, before you dispute whether they may be in him de novo.
§. 17.
Mr. K. COnsider we what follows: [Whether all such Immanent acts are any more eternal then transient acts, is much questioned] saith Mr. Baxter. By whom I pray? A clear difference between them as between heaven and earth▪ transient acts as I told you but now, being in the Patient, Immanent in the Agent.
§. 17.
R. B. 1. O Happy, too happy wit! that hath not onely with Moses seen the back parts of God, but hath taken so full a Survey of his Nature, that it can discern as clear a difference between his several acts, as between heaven and earth! I dare not attempt the like survey: but I may receive instrustruction from you that have survey'd it. And what is the difference? Why [transient acts are in the Patient, and Immanent in the Agent▪] What's the proof? Why it is this [I told you so but even now.] This may be a Demonstration to those that are capable of it: but recipitur ad modum recipientis: with me you have lost your Authority, so farre, that I need another kinde of proof. I will rather call it Passion then Action when it is in Patiente. Forma dat nomen: and Passion and Action are not the same formaliter, whatsoever they may be materially. Use the names promiscuously, if there be no difference in the things.
You know the subtil Scotists say, That Action and Passion are not the same, and that Action is in the Agent. And I have yet seen no reason to preferre you before Scotus. But I rather say, that Transient Acts are ab agente, but neither in agente nec patiente; as having a Cause but no Subject, as I have before expressed. And you may finde in my Scapula, Met. l. 2 c. 10. Tit. 3. n. 51. That Omne accidens est in alio sensu Negativo, &c. altas loquendo de generali essentia accidentis, non est ea in Inhaerendo, si rigorose loquamur, sed in eo quod id q [...]od accidens est afficit substantiam extra essentialiter, sive extra essentiam, aut rationem ejus existendo. Proinde etsi actio [Page 50] rigorose loquendo non inhaereat, tam [...]n satis habet de ratione accidentis, quia substantiam afficit & denominat extra essentialiter. Ʋnde porrò resp. ad assump. prosyllog. admittendo quod Actio Transiens non fit in Patiente, loquendo de actione ut fic, & sub esse Actionis. Quod igitur Actio transiens dicitur esse in patiente, id non est Intelligendum formaliter, sed materialiter: nempe illa res quae est Actio est in Patiente▪ non tamen sub formali Actionis, sed sub formali passionis: Eadem enim res quae Actio est, est etiam Passio. Now I hope you are more accurate in your speeches then to use to denominate from the matter, rather then the form: and therefore I hope hereafter you will forbear saying, that Actio est in Patiente, how common soever it may be. At least remember that you humbled your self but even now, to use a Hackney distinction, with which every dull Jade could maintain the Negative at their pleasure. And what if I adventured to use one Argument, Actio est efficientis causalitas: At efficientis Causalitas non est in Patiente: Ergò, Actio non est in Patiente. The major I prove by Infallible Authority, viz. Mr. K's, pag. 136. For the minor, If the Causality of the Agent were in the Patient, then we might fitly call it Patientis Causalitas. (For the name should be [...]itted to the thing) But that were absurd, Therefore, &c. Further, That which is in the Patient is a Causatum, or effect of the Agent per Actionem vel Causalitatem. But Causality or Action is not a Causatum or effect of the Agent per actionem vel causalitatem: Therefore that which is in the Patient is not Action or Causality. The major needs no proof; and its meant of every received form. The minor hath a full demonstration, viz. Mr. K's Authority; who denieth Action to be an effect. And those that be not moved with his authority, may observe that I here take the word [effect] in the more restrained sense as it excludeth Causality or Action; and therefore that I say [it is not an Effect per Actionem] and that is proved fully, in that otherwise, there must be another Action to effect this Action, and so in infinitum. But I did not think to have said any thing on this. All that Mr. K. can expect we should grant him is, that Actio qua Passio est in Patiente: but still Actio transiens qua Actio non est in Patiente, no more then is an Immanent action. Or if it were, yet the Authority of so many learned gain-sayers, makes the difference seem scarce so clear as that between heaven and earth.
Moreover, that which in God we call a Transient Act, is by the Schoolmen in greatest credit, affirmed to be Gods Essence only connoting the creature-Relatio to it: so that besides the creature it self (which though Scotus cals Creation, yet is sure the effect and not the act) and besides the Relation (which can be no proper act) there remains nothing but Gods essence, to be the substance of the Act which we call both Immanent and Transient. Capreolus saith, Nulla Divina operatio aut actio qua formaliter agit aut operatur, est transiens in passum, sic quod in passo formaliter recipiatur, cum ejus agere sit ejus Velle [...] Intelligere, quae sunt actiones Immanentes. Sed concedi potest quod divina actio dicitur quandoque transiens propter respectum rationis ad realem effectum in Creatura, ut Creatio, Conservatio, &c. l. 2. dist. 1. q. 2. art. 3. And the Thomist [...] (saith Suarez, Met. disp. 20. §. 5.) say, That Non solum Creatio, verum neque ulla actio respectu illius potest esse Transiens. Where then is Mr. K's clear difference as between heaven and earth?
And though I am loth to put my singer into the fire, by medling with Mr. K. any further then he invites me, yet perhaps he may expect I should somewhat take notice what he saith of this point to Mr. Goodwin, pag. 150, 154.
1. When he saith, [There are so many Immutations in Gods Essence] if transient operations be the same with his Essence, &c. I deny the consequence: [Page 51] because the Terminus or effect is not the same with his Essence, though the act be. The Effect only is Many; the Act but one. 2. To his solution of the first Question, where he saith, It is a mystery passing all understanding, that God should incline the heart to believe and not act anew, &c.] I say, I believe him for the mysteriousness. But as all multiplicity comes from Unity, so do all temporals from that act which is Eternal. To all Mr. K's Instances the Schoolmen say, It is the effect only that is New: In giving the spirit, faith, raising Christ; &c. God had no new act: Yet God did it by Velle, which is his eternal act and essence. To his answer to the second Question, I Reply, M. K's Questions are insipid and fallacious. [Did he Plant faith by making Plants? Did he make me to differ by making the world?] For though it was by the same act, yet that act hath divers denominations from its respect to divers objects. To [make the world] connoteth a particular object, viz. the world: and therefore the act which causeth you to believe, cannot be called [Creating the world] not because the act is not the same, but because it respecteth not the same object. The third Question belongs not to me. To the fourth I say as before: the act is Gods Velle: his Velle is his Essence: Therefore Eternal. His Questions [Whether the world were drowned by the same Act by which it was made? &c.] are answered as before: It was by the same Act, viz. Velle Divinum; but to be denominated variously according to the Variety of objects which it doth respect and connote. Even as it is the same Act which is Immanent and Eternal, which in Time is denominated Transient from its respect to the effect.
But Pag. 154. I finde him citing Mr. G. as saying [Learned men Generally acknowledge, that (the act) is really and formally one and the same thing with his Essence▪] And Mr. K. saith contrary, that [No man ever asserted Transient acts to be the same with the Agent] and that [all Transient acts be the same with the term, say all men that meddle with Metaphysicks] and he appeals to any Reader that hath but tasted the first principles of Logick. Truly these two Divines are very contrary: and have bewrayed both of them that which they might have concealed with much more credit to their Reading. Yet Mr. G. may interpret [Generally] with such limitations as may bring him off in part: but Mr. K's presumption and boldness is intolerable. When a man of so small R [...]ading as I am, know so well, that the Metaphysical Doctors do some speak one way, and some another: as I undertake by quotations now to manifest when I shall understand it worth any time and labour. I remember Mr K's words in his third Epistle of the sufficiency of [a pair of Sheers and a met yard.] But it is not so farre sufficient without more Reading, as to encourage a tender conscienc't man, to averre untruths so confidently, that [No man ever asserted, &c.] And where he saith [The Question is not of the acts of his Will, but of his Power, &c.] Knoweth he not that Dr. Twiss and the highly honoured Thomists do make God to work per essentiam, and say, that his Power is but his Will, called Power in respect to the effect which it doth produce? Vid. Aquin. 1. q. 15. art. 1. 4m. Truly me thinks that Mr. K. doth even to the meanly learned expose himself to great disgrace, to say so boldly, that [all men that meddle with Metaphysicks say, that all Transient acts be the same with the term.] Did he never at least reade Scotus so oft asserting and arguing for the contrary? Nor any one of his followers, nor one of all the other parties that deny this? If he had not, yet he should have blushed so peremptorily to affirm what he did not know▪ At least he should have known that Schibler hath this Conclusion, which he largely argues for [3o Actiones quae [Page 52] [...]endunt ad terminum non sunt realiter idem cum termino] and saith, Cal [...]factionem a Calore specie distingui. And he there tels you of Venetus, Aur [...]olus, Suarez & Colleg. Conimbric. that say as he: At least he that so derides me for citing these puerile Authors, should not have dared to say All men [that meddle with Metaphys.] say as he in this, when both common School-books, and the two most famous Sects of Schoolmen, Scotists and Thomists are against him (as Suarez will tell him, disp. 48. ser. 5. n. 2. of Cajet. Hispalens. Flandr. & communiter Scotist &c.] And for the fuller answering of Mr. K's Questions before mentioned, I desire the learned Reader among others to peruse the foresaid Answer of Capr [...]olus to Aureolus 15. arguments in l. 2. sent. dist. 1. q. 2. a. 3. But I must intreat you still to remember that my own opinion is, That action is not properly ascrib [...]d to God at all; nay farre more Improperly then men will easily believe: Suarez himself Metaph. disp. 48. §. 5. n. 11. maintaineth Gods Immanent acts, Intelligere & Velle are properly not acts, no [...] to be so called. But of this before.
Reade also Gibieuf. de Libert▪ l. 1. cap. 25. §. 13. shewing that the act whereby God made all things of nothing is Eternal: and c. 6. p. 323. And Cardin. Contarenus de praedestinatione, pag. (operum) 606. saith, Simplici & Ʋnica Actione, quae cum ipsius substantia eadem est (si tam [...]n substantiam appellare licet) omnes effectus producit: ita nullo etiam tempore aut temporis aliqua parte, actionem ejus contineri, &c.] Vid. Aquin. contr. Gent. l 1, 2. c. 35, 36, 37. 17, 18, 19.
And that the Action is not the same with the Terminus, see the Arguments of Ludovic. a Dola de Concursu Part. 1. cap. 2. §. 6. Aquin. is cited by Capreolus in 2. sent. dis. 1. q. 2. a. 3. as saying thus, de po [...]. Dei q. 3. a. 17. ad 12m. Dei Actio est aet [...]rna cum sit ejus substantia: dicitur autem incipere agere ratione novi effectus, qui ab aeterna actione consequitur dispositionem voluntatis qui intelligitur quasi actionis principium in ordine ad effectum.]
2. But the other part of the assigned difference goes down with me no better, but much worse, 1. In that he knows, I think, that it is not such a commonly received opinion [that Immanent actions are in the Agent] in a Positive sense, and not meerly negative, as that he should think it needed no more proof then his mentioning. I gave him the opposition of one Sophie, as he cals him, even now. 2. And if it were so in man, I again tell him, that I will not take his bare word, no nor his oath, that it is so in God.
But Mr. K. must needs know who they be that make question of this. What if it were but some private familiars of mine? Must Mr. K. needs know their names? But I had thought he had been well acquainted with the doctrine of Ly [...]hetus, Penn [...]tus and Sanctâ Clarâ in this Point, Who affirm, That though the act in it self be God himself, and so eternal, yet the transition of it to several objects, and so the denomination may be new; and so that God may to day predestinate him that before was not predestinated, or Love him that before was not Loved, and this without any change in God. Indeed these are the men that I mean. I thought with these men of the higher form you had deigned to be familiar: but because you speak of the matter so strangely, I will come down again to our own form, and rehearse a few words of Burgersdicius familiarly known to those at your footstool. Metaph. l. 2. §. 16. Est enim in Deo concipiendus unus actus, qui nihil aliud est quam essentia divina. Hic actus respicere potest diversa objecta creata, seu, quod eodem redit, Deus per istum actum tendere potest in diversa objecta, vel etiam non tendere: & cum in illa tendit, reverâ ea vult: Dixi in objecta creata: Nam semetipsum Deus non potest non amare. Decreta ergo Dei duo involvunt; actum scilicet, & illius actus tendentiam [Page 53] sine applicatione ad diversa objecta creata. Actus ipse liber non est, non magis quam Dei vel Immensitas, vel Aeternitas: sed libera est illius actus applicatio ad objecta: quae tamen quia nihil Deo addit entis, sed solum denominationem quandam externam, sumptam a connotatione objecti creati, tanquam termini sui, neque compositionem efficere potest, neque mutationem. Quod adeo verum est, ut existimem, si Deus decr [...]ta rescindere posset, illud imperfectionem allaturam Deo, non propter mutationem Decretorum, sed propter causam mutationis, quae aut imprudentia semper est aut impotentia.
Suarez hath such a like passage, which Fr. a Sancta Clara reciting, answers this Objection about Imprudence or Impotency, as Posnani [...]nsis before him: Froblem. quart. pag. 31. sed hac ratio ejus est debilis, ut recte notavit Posnaniensis: Nam imprudentiae vel inconstantiae vitium non est, siquis propositis duolus benis, primo [...]ligat minus bonum & postea majus: nisi forte ex passione vel timore difficultatis, vel alia inordinata affectione id proveniat; ut patet de bono caelibatus & conjugii. Deus autem nullo modo obligatur, nec passionibus laborat, sed ex mera liberalitate hoc non illud eligit: Ergo potest eligere sine nota inconstantiae. Haec ille. Ʋnde August. Si non es praedestinatus, fac ut praedestineris. Et Ambrosius (in c. 1. Luc.) Novit Dominus mutare sententiam, si tu noveris [...]mendare delictum. Subtilissimus etiam Bradwardinus dicit hanc sententiam suum aliquando pulsasse animum, &c.
Thus I have given you some answer to your incredulous Question [By whom I pray?] But another kinde of answer might be given, concerning another sort of men, who deny the Act it self to be Gods Essence, but somewhat that hath no more Being then a Relation, or a Formality, or Ens rationis ratiocinatae, or at least then a modus Entis: and consequently that as this may be without any composition in God (which they prove by the confession of our own Doctors) so may it begin and end without Mutation in God. But I'le not offend Mr. K's ears with the names of these men.
§. 18.
Mr. K. SUrely transient Acts there could be none before the Creation, there being no term of such Acts, no subject for them, unless there were either somewhat that was not made, or somewhat made before there was a Creation: but as for Immanent Acts, as Knowing and Willing in God, they were before the foundation of the world was laid. It is a very crude passage thus to say [It is much questioned whether ▪all such Immanent Acts are any more eternal then transient Acts:] For if the meaning be that any transient Act be eternal, that is a mystery beyond all that hath been heard: then somewhat was made from eternity: If the meaning be, that no Immanent Act is [...]ternal, that's after the same rate. The first made the Creature eternal▪ the second denies God to be eternal: Did he not kn [...]w from Eternity, yea fore-know all that hath been since the Creation, is or shall be to the dissolution of the world, he were not perfect, and therefore not God from eternity. So then neither can it be affirmed, that there was any transient act eternal, nor can [...] denied but that some Immanent acts are eternal: and if some, then all, or els a change in [...] must of necessity be granted. So that if the meaning be [Its questioned Whether s [...]me [...]mmanent Acts be no more eternal then transient Acts] that is, some immanent Acts be not eternal, the Argument returns with the old charge, that an alteration must be yielded in God, immanent Acts being not to be reckoned with any colour among effects, but adjuncts, and no ground of▪ putting any such new immanent Act in God in time, which I demonstrate further thus.
§. 18.
R. B. THe meaning of my words is not hid, but according to the proper literal sense, and I had some respect to the two sorts of men before-mentioned, but chiefly to one. And what I say in Reply to your words, you must be so just as to take to be according to their grounds, and not mine own: For it is but the unsearchableness of these things that I am all this while maintaining.
And first to your Argumentation against the Eternity of transient acts, it may be replied, that in transient acts you must distinguish between the Act it self, which is called transient, and the Passion or Reception of that act in the subject or the product, or effect of that act. The denomination of Transient is given to that act in the later respect as it doth connote the Product, Effect, Passion and Subject: yea is properly taken so from them, as that it signifieth nothing essential to the Act it self as an Act: So that all that same Act which is in Time denominated Transient, because in time it did produce its effect, was really from eternity it self, though the effect were not; and so differs not quoad rationem formalem actus, from an Immanent act. Proved, 1. The Act by which God created the world, was his simple Velle: But Gods simple Velle was from Eternity: Therefore &c. The major is indeed denied by such P [...]nies as Schibler, and many more of his minde: but it needs no proof with Mr. K. for it is the opinion (I am sure the saying) of D• Twiss: And indeed it comes all to one, as to our business, if you go on the others grounds. The major, Mr. K. maintains. 2. Deu [...] operatur per essentiam immediatè: sed essentia divina est aeterna: Ergo, &c. The major is spoken exclusively as to all acts which are not Gods Essence; and is so common with many Schoolmen, that I will spare the proof (for I perceive its easier taking it for granted then proving it) The minor none denieth that confesseth God. So that it is granted Mr. K. that these acts were not to be called Transient from Eternity, because they were not received, or rather did not produce the effect but in time: But yet the act which in Time received the denomination of Transient, was it self Eternal: God Willed from Eternity that the Creature should Be in time, and produced it in that time by that Will which was Eternal. So much on that side.
Now to your Argumentation for the Eternity of Immanent acts, you would receive two several kindes of Answer from the several men that I before told you of.
One sort of them think that the Thing it self which we call an Act, is nothing but Gods Essence, and so Eternal: but that the transition of this Act to several objects (as Sancta Clara cals it) or the Application of it to these objects (as Burgersdicius speaks) and so the connotation of, and respect to these objects, is not Eternal, where the object is not Eternal: and withall they think that the denomination specifical of the several Acts, yea and the diversification▪ [...] them, is taken from these [...]emporal transitions, or applications and respects to [...]e objects; and therefore that they must be used as temporal denominations, and it is fittest to say, God Knew, Loved, &c. Peter as existing, not from Eternity, but when he did exist: Yea they think the very name of an Act, is most fit to be used in this later sense; rather then applied to the pure Essence of God: however some call him in another sense, a simple Act.
The other sort of men do think, that the very Act it self is some M [...]dus or formality distinct from Gods Essence, and may begin without his Mutation, as it may be his without his Composition, as I have before said. Now both these sorts will Reply, that your Charge of [making God not Eternal] and of [making alteration in God] which you oft repeat, are but your bare word without any proof, and therefore not by them to be regarded. That God fore-knew all things that should come to pass they easily grant you: but if he know not that to be existent, which is but future, or that to be future which is wholly past, they say, this makes not God to be imperfect, or not eternal.
But I marvel that you still call Gods Immanent Acts [Adjuncts in God] which before you also called Accidents; not fearing hereby to be guilty of making a Compounded God, while you maintain him Eternal: Or not discerning that you give advantage to your Adversary to maintain, that those Accidents or Adjuncts which may be in God without Composition, may as well Beginne or End notwithstanding his Immutability, if their Object be such as doth Beginne or End. Now to your New Demonstration.
§. 19.
Mr▪ K. IF there be a ground of putting a New immanent Act in God; Ergo, This ground must be either in God or the Creature. If a Ground in God which was not before, then an alteration in him beyond reply: a ground in the Creature there can be none to put a new immanent Act in God; for that an immanent Act hath nothing to do with any thing without the Agent, it being herein contradistinguished from transient Acts, that transient Acts terminantur in pas [...], immanent Acts in agente. I confess somewhat without the Agent, is many times, yea commonly the object of immanent Acts: but if ever either the Subject or Term, I will publickly burn my Books, as Mr. Baxter desires his may be, when he goes one note beyond Dr. Twiss. I am confident he needs not fear coming so high: I am sure he fals infinitely short in this Argument, as will appear more fully by what he subjoyns.
§. 19.
R. B. THis is the Demonstration. I shall understand that word, in your mouth, better hereafter. Your horned Argument will be thus answered. The word [Ground] is ambiguous. If you take it largely for any sufficient Reason of the attribution, then there is Ground both in the Creature and in God: But if you take it more strictly for some one sort of Reason, then it may be in one and no [...] in the other. The ground may be in the Creature as the Object, and in God as [...]h [...] [...]fficient: and in one as the relate, and the other as the correlate. But you say [ [...] in God, then an alteration in him, beyond reply:] that's a pretty way to prevent a Reply: But your confident Assertions shall hereafter be annumerated with the weakest of your Arguments, though called Demonstrations.
1. Some will take it for a sufficient Reply to deny your Consequence, and think you had dealt fairlier to have proved it. For they will think that there may be in God an Eternal Ground of a New immanent Act, as well as there is of a New Transient act: The [...]ewness of the Act, will no [...] prove the newness of the Ground. And therefore you easily suppose that it must be [a ground in God which was not [Page 56] before] if the act be such as was not before. But this you should have foreseen would be denied. And if you say, that the newness or change in the effect doth argue something changed or new in the cause; they will deny it; and tell you that then every transient act would argue something new in God.
2. Those (of whom I spoke before) that maintain that immanent acts as acts need no subject, will think they reply sufficiently by telling you, that the novity of immanent acts, having a ground in God, will only prove that aliquid Dei vela Deo is altered, but not that aliquid in Deo is altered: because that action speaks but a dependant egress, and not an inhesion. The like they will say as to any form introduced in the subject by immanent acts, who deny to many and most immanent acts, a terminus; and particularly to intellection. And if you think that there can be no action without some effect within or without, I refer you for an answer to my Scapula, as you conceit him.
3. However many of us will hardly be brought to beleeve that Gods immanent acts have in proper sense a terminus: though mans may.
4. Some will think they Reply sufficiently, by telling you that by [alteration in God] you mean, either [an alteration of his essence] and then they deny your consequence: or [an alteration of some modus, or relation, or formality;] and such they will grant; and say, as oft before, that it is no more against Gods immutability, then the existence of that modus, relation, or formality is against his simplicity.
5. If when God created the world, he had a All consent not the Relation is only ex parte creaturae and not mutuall. new relation (of Creatour) which he had not before, and this without change, then he may have a new immanent act without change, for ought you know.
6. For Gods acts are not so well known to such Moles and Bats as you and I are, that we should be able so peremptory to conclude that the novity of them must needs argue himself to be mutable: we know not so well how much Being, or of what kinde, those acts have.
So much for Reply to that which is past Reply. Now to the next horn of your Dilemma.
You say [A ground in the creature there can be none to put a new immanent act in God.] And why? Because [an immanent act hath nothing to do with any thing without the Agent.] 1. How? nothing! neither as an occasion, nor an object? do not you confess within a few lines that something without may be its object? It is ordinarily said, and by some of your friends, that the Attributes and Immanent acts of God are diversified only by extrinsick denomination; as an immoveable rock in the sea that is washt sometime with one wave and sometime with another, without its own change: (It seems they take the passion or reception of these motions of the waves, to be no change.) So do diversity of objects, say they, diversifie Gods acts and attributes quoad denominationem extrinsecam. If that be so, then objects specifie those act; quoad denominationem extrinsecam, which in themselves are but one: and then the said objects may as well cause a novity as a diversity of immanent acts quoad denominationem extrinsecam: And then there is no more impropriety in saying, God doth de Novo Will or Nill; then in [...]aying, that it is not all one, for God to Will my salvation, and to Nill it: see what you have brought your cause to. 2. There are men in the world [Page 57] that conceive of God, as we do of the sun, that is still shining, but not still shining on this or that creature: it may begin or cease to shine on this place or that, without any change in it self or its actual shining: and so they think it is with God as to some of his acts, which have the creature for their objects: And for your objection, That this is a transient act of the sun, I shall reply to it anon, where you mention it.
But you are again harping on your old string; viz. [That immanent acts are terminated in the Agent.] And I again tell you, that Gods acts and mans are not so near kin, as that you may conclude of the termination of his acts from the termination of ours: yea I tell you, that I will not beleeve you that Gods willing or knowing the creature hath any terminus in himself (further then as you may say the creature is in himself;) that is no terminus strictly ascribed to actions distinct from a meet objective termination. A word of proof. 1. Where there is neither motus or mutation there is no terminus? But in God acting immanently there is neither motus vel mutatio: Therefore, &c. I think I need not confirm either part. 2. Where there is no effect or form acquired or introduced, there is no terminus (in the sense in question:) But in God there is no effect or form acquired or introduced (by such immanent acts) Therefore, &c. The major is plain from the common definition of a terminus. The minor is past question.
But here you confess that the objects of immanent acts may be extrinsick (Yet I could tell you, that Viguerius Institut▪ and others conclude, that Voluntas Divina non habet objectum extrinsecum:) but if subject or term you will burn your Books, &c. But hold your hand a little. Before I dare be guilty of that, I would fain know what Books they are. But you speak cautelously: for you tell us not who shall be Judge in this business: and if I should shew you never so many that are against you, you may keep your word by saying they all mistake, and by being the Judge your self. But, alas Sir, what cause have you thus to threaten your Books? Who can riddle the occasion of it? I tell you, that as good Philosophers (for ought I yet finde by you) as you, do think that such acts have no subject nor term: and you say, that if any thing extrinsick be the subject or term you will burn your Books! which if you do, let all bear witness that I was no occasion of it: If they have no subject or term at all, then they can have none without. Sure if you were not very quarrelsome you would not in such high words feign him to be your adversary, that saith more against the opposed Point, then your self
As for that out-leap wherewith you recreate your self, of my coming so high as Dr. Twiss, in the sense I spoke I yet desire it not; in the sense you speak (lusorily) I expect it not: nor do I know any man so simple as to compare me with him, or that needed this learned Digression. Yet I confess I thought my self somewhat neerer both Dr. Twiss and your self then you suppose me to be: For though I was ready to obey your conclusive command, of adoring the footsteps of such, yet I thought not that I had come infinitely short, as you here inform me, I do. I thought only God had infinitely excelled the meanest creature. Nay then, if you will be needs our Gods, Numina Academica, I am afraid you will shortly be lower then men; and lest I shall hear that news which I equally fear and abhorre, that you and such like will ere long be cast out of that Academical Paradise. But let that go: I suppose [infinitely] was but a high word, by a high spirit, quasi ab alto, from a high place. I have stood my self ere now on a mountain, and every thing in the valley seemed small to me.
But I forgot to tell you one thing: that (though I suppose I know what kinde of termination you mean, yet) you should have spoken more cautelously, and distinguished, and told your Reader more plainly what you deny; and not have resolved to burn your Books, if we prove things without the Agent to be a term in general. For you know that we distinguish of Objects into Motive and Terminative; and ordinarily say that the creatures are terminative objects of Gods Will, though not moving objects. Meurisse saith (Metaphys. Scot. li. 1. Q. 15. pag. 127.) Objectum secundarium non potest movere intellectum divinum ad cognitionem sui, licet possit illum terminare, ut docent Theologi. And Schibler li. 2. c. 3. tit. 15. n. 507. Non quasi putemus esse aliquid quod act [...]et quasi voluntatem divinam, (quod officium alias solet esse objectorum, in ordine ad habitus & potentias,) sed quia apprehendimus voluntatem Divinam Terminari ad aliquid quod hactenus habet rationem objecti. Est enim ad rationem objecti satis, si terminet actum aliquem. And Punct. 2. n. 510. the assertion is, Dei voluntas terminatur etiam ad res creatas. But enough of that. Now lets see the proof of our infinite distance.
§. 20.
Mr. K. [AS for God to know that the world doth now exist: that such a man is sanctified, just, &c. Gods foreknowledge is not a knowing that such a thing is which is not, but that such a thing will be which is not: yet doth this make no change in God, no more then the sun i [...] changed by the variety of creatures which it doth enlighten and warm; or the glasse by the variety of faces which it representeth, or the eye by the variety of colours which it beholdeth: (For, whatsoever some say, I do not think that every variation of the object makes a reall change in the eye, or that the beholding of ten distinct colours at one view doth make ten distinct acts of the fight, or alterations on it: Aph. p. 173, 174.] I cannot tell what to make of this rope, but sand it is, and nothing else, as shall strait appear; and how ill a match this Authour was, thus to descend in arenam with Twisse, Pemble, and I dare say all the sober Divines that ever were worthy to speak to a School Point.
§. 20.
R. B. SAnguinolent men do dream of sighting and killing: It seems you have accustomed your minde so to contending, that through the errour of your phantasie, all words seem chidings, and all actions seem fightings to you: And so you dreamed not only that I was in arena, but 2. that Dr. Twisse and Mr. P. were there with me. 3. Yea and all Divines worthy to speak to a School Point. 4. And that we were there coping for masteries: and in the end of your dream you rise up as Judge and give them the better, and proclaim me an ill match. But 1. he that reades my Book will finde that I argue not as from my self, but only shew how other mens argumentations do manifest such a difficulty in the Point, that we should not lay too great a stress on it; as I have shewed you before in the explication of my own words. Nay I do not once deny the Point (that immanent acts are eternal) but only say, It is much questioned (by others) whether they are any more eternal then transient acts: and annex a touch of some mens arguings for it: concluding only in a parenthesis, that the Point is, as I think, beyond our reach. So much to the first fiction. 2. And if I contended not with any then not with Dr. Twiss and Mr. P. on this Point: it being plain that it is [Page 59] on another Point that I deal with them. Thats for the second fiction. 3. The third is mounted with great confidence; you [dare say:] What dare you say▪ Why that I [thus descend in arenam with all the sober Divines that ever were worthy to speak to a School Point.] You are a daring man, that dare say this. But I have tasted so much of your temper before, that I perceive your veracity is oft least where your audacity is greatest: I thought I had contended with no man in those words; and you dare say, I contend with all men, worthy to speak to a School Point. What if it had been true that I had been here contending, and that against a Point which all these hold? doth it indeed follow that I do in arena [...] descendere with them all? and seek to match them? And what reason have we that know you not, to take you for Judge of all the Divines in the world, who shall be accounted sober, and who not; and who is worthy to speak to a School Point, and who not? Or why should I think you more worthy then the Learned men that I have before named, Ly [...]hetus, Pennottus, Burgersdicius, &c?
§. 21.
Mr. K. TO know that the world doth now exist when once it did not, and that such a man now is sanctified which before he was not, makes no change in God, but only shews a change in the object: but to know now that the world doth exist which before God did not know, or to know now that such a man is sanctified, who before was not, which before God did not know, makes a change in God, as well as the object.
§. 21.
R. B. VVHo would look for such answers from you, that had heard you judge of School Divines with such Authority? The first part of your Answer is not against any thing that I said: The second is a meer begging of the Question. Some think that quoad substantiam actus Gods knowledge is the same whatever the object be; but yet because [Knowing this or that] connoteth the object with the act, therefore the eternal essence of God simply in it self considered is not to be called [Knowledge] much less [the knowledge of this or that creature;] and that without the object it neither is Knowledge, nor ought to be so called; and so as from the object we distinguish Gods Knowing and Willing, so must we the several acts of his knowledge; and though the act quoad substantiam, which we call [Knowledge] in God be but one, yet the ratio formalis which must give the denomination, being in the respect of that one act to its objects, it is most fit to say that Gods knowledge of Peters salvation and Judas damnation, is not the same knowledge, though it be the same substantial act: the like is said of his Will: And as this must be said without wrong to his simplicity, so the like must be said of his beginning or ceasing to Know, without wrong to his immutability: and that as it▪ is not all one for God to know the Futurity and the present existence of a thing, so we must say, that he began to know the present existence when the thing began to exist, and that God did not know before the creation, that this proposition was true, Petrus existit: and that he ceaseth to know the Futurition of a thing that ceaseth to be future; and that God doth not now know, that Christ will be born and dye and rise: and that therefore immanent acts in God are not [Page 60] to be said to be all eternal; but only those that have an eternal object; because the act is to be denominated from its respect to the object: and therefore it being Gods Knowing and Willing which we call immanent acts here, where it is unmeet to say that act of Knowledge or Will is eternall, then it is unmeet to say, Gods immanent acts are eternal: but when you will express Gods immutability, it is fitter to say [God is unchangeable, or Gods essence or nature is eternall,] then to say, his knowledge, will, or immanent acts (in this sense) are so: because when we connote not the object, we are to call it Gods Essence, and not Gods Knowledge, Will, or such acts: so that here is no real change in God himself, but only a respective, or modal, or formal (as the Scotists speak) or such as we cannot now apprehend, affording new objective conceptions; all the change being in the creature.
Now how doth Mr. K. prove that this doctrine must [make a change in God as well as the object?] why he learnedly affirmeth it. He that can finde a word more, let him make his best of it. But in this case, all the proof lieth on the affimer; which we might well have expected from him.
§. 22.
Mr. K. ANd therefore all sober Divines use to be wary in their expressions in this kinde; acknowledging no difference between Gods knowledge and foreknowledge, but this, that his foreknowledge is in order to the object only, and not of any act of Gods: so that it is not opposed to post-science, but it signifieth only a futurity of the object, as was shewed at large in the third Chapter. God knows that that is to day which was not yesterday; but God as perfectly knew it yesterday as to day, and knew at once, all the various successions in time; or did he otherwise, a change cannot possibly be avoided, notwithstanding all Master Baxter alleadgeth to the contrary.
§. 22.
R. B. 1. IF your first sentence be true, I must lament the paucity of sober Divines; for sure I am, that of those which have written on these Points, too few have been wary in their expressions: and no wonder when they are no more wary in their conceptions; and when men dare maintain themselves to have that capacity which they have not, and to know certainly that which they do not, and might easily know they do not: When even such learned men as you will not be perswaded that these things are above your reach, but do with such haughty contention oppose one poor sentence in a Parenthesis (which is all my sentence) wherein I say, it is beyond our reach.
2. You lift up your self too high, in taking on you to judge all those Divines to be unsober, that are not in this of your opinion.
3. If the word [prescience] signifie only a futurity of the object, then these are equipollent expressions [Deus hoc praescit] and [Hoc est futurum:] but that is not true.
4. The same humane frailty and distance from God, which makes it necessary to us to ascribe Acting, Knowing and Willing to God, and to conceive of him under these notions, doth equally necessitate us to conceive of his Knowledge and Will, as distinct, and not altogether the same: else we should ascribe a meer name, [Page 61] without any conception of the thing named: For we cannot conceive of any such Knowledge as is the same with Willing, nor of any such Willing which is the same with Nilling; and yet we beleeve the simplicity of God. And the same necessity that compelleth us to conceive of Gods Knowing, Willing and Nilling, as divers, ab objectorum diversitate, doth compell us to conceive of his Knowledge of things as Future, and his Knowledge of things existent, as divers: yet still we deny a Mutation of God himself; only we conceive as the Scotists, that there is a diversity of the objective conceptions, and that our various denominations have fundamentum in re: but what it is, let him tell that knows.
5. Against all this that which you oppose is but your naked assertion, which I regard less then perhaps you expected. I affirm the uncertainty, and you the certainty; and therefore it is you that should prove that certainty which you affirm to have: For no man hath a certainty without some evidence or other to force assent; and therefore that evidence should be produced, if you are indeed a man of as Angelicall intellectuals as you seem to conceit your self.
6. God did yesterday know tha [...] the sun is not risen to day, i. e. that to day is not come: You will say, he did at the same time yesterday know that to day is come and the sun is risen? some will think to make this true, you must verifie contradictories, and say, [It is] and [It is not] at once, may both be absolutely true (and then farewell our first Metaphysicall certainty in composition.) Or else you must assert the coexistence of all things with God in eternity; which how loath you will be to admit, I conjecture partly from the tendency of your tenets, and partly from your adhesion to Dr. Twisse, and others of his minde.
7. For your third Chapter I have said as much to it already as I finde either need or list, being loath you should cast on me Master Goodwins task.
§. 23.
Mr. K. ANd to the first illustration the case is strangely different; yet I confess, if it did hold, it would prove the point a fortiori: Thus the sun, saith he, enlightens and warms variety of creatures, yet is not changed: therefore nor need God be said to be changed, though he know to day a variation in the creature: I yield all the conclusion: but all that is nothing to the purpose▪ for the question is not whether to know a variation in the creature prove a change in God? but whether a variation of the acts of his knowledge, according to the variation in the creatures do not prove a change in him? now the putting of a new immanent act, as a new knowing, is a putting of variation upon him.
§. 23.
R. B. 1. VVEre my advice of any weight with you, I should perswade you never to expect any illustration of Gods immanent acts by the creature, without a great difference in the case: and therefore that you would no more take such difference as so strange. 2. Your concession that it will prove the point a fortiori, if it hold, is as much as I could desire or expect. 3. A man would think, that the argument you here lay down as mine, were mine indeed, [Page 62] who findes so Learned a Divine saying so, that should abhorre falshood: when you put the words in a distinct character, with a [saith he,] as if they had been my express terms: but I desire the Reader not to judge of all your Writings by such passages as this: He may speak true at one time, that yet takes liberty to speak falsly at another. You did take the easiest course imaginable, to fain a conclusion which you could grant, and then to grant it and say it is nothing to the business. 4. I will not consent to your stating the question in new terms of your own, in the midst of a dispute. Do not feign me to dispute any question which you make many years after my Writing, and which is not to be found in my Writing in terms. 5. The word [Act] may signifie 1. the Divine essence; and so he that feigns a new act feigns a new God: 2. Or that mode, formality, respect (or whatever else it is to be called,) of God, arising from the nature or state of extrinsick objects; which Burgersdicius cals, the Application to the Object The question is only of this now, which some think may most fitly be called, Gods acts. Your naked repeated affirmation that a variation is put on God, when you prove it not, I take no more for a Demonstration.
§. 24.
Mr. K. SEcondly, When we are speaking of immanent acts, what have we to do with the suns enlightening or warming? I had thought those had been transient acts, and so not proper in this case! Yet
§. 24.
R. B. REmember you not the crude question that we were on? [Whether such immanent acts are any more eternall then transient acts?] The Questionists mean it quoad formalem naturam actus; for they take the denominations of [immanent] and [transient] to be but from the effect or terminus: And that you may see what they imagined, when they mention the similitude of the sun, let me intreat you to suppose for disputation sake (per possibile vel impossibile) that God had made at first no creature but the sun: I would fain know whether that sun in shining and casting out its rayes and emanation, did act immanently or transiently?▪ I conceive not transiently: because there were no subjects existing into which its act should pass, or which should as its extrinsick terminus receive from it any new form. It seems then it must be immanently: but that is but in sensu Negativo▪ because it is not transient: suppose next that the rest of the creatures were afterwards made, and placed as they are under the influence of this sun, and so were the receptive subjects of its action: Is it not the same sort of Action, without any change in it self, which before was immanent, and now is become transient?
But I need say no more to this; for you are pleased to confess.
§. 25.
Mr. K. YEt thirdly, Did it hold, I yield it were Argumentum a majori ad minus▪ If the sun be not changed notwithstanding all its warmth and lightening, then neither were God. But sure the sun is changed, and changeth perpetually, and could not act as a Universall cause upon the great variety of creatures in the world, did it not rejoice [Page 63] like a Gyant to run its course; did it stand still but one year together at one point, yea or but walk within one Hemisphere for a year, What should we do for that variety of seasons we need? All Summer would be as bad as all Winter. In opposition to this change of the Sun, is the Father of Lights said to be without shadow of turning. He hath no such Solstices or Tropicks; no motions, but a perpetual permanency. There is a great difference between Immanent acts and transient: that supposing the Sun to stand still as in Joshua's time, and to act without motion; here were no alteration to be acknowledged in the Sun, notwithstanding all the variety of objects, yea and variety of operations upon those objects, all which might proceed from the same Act as to the Sun, the difference being meerly in the Patient: As for instance, the same live-coal doth at once by its heat melt the wax, and harden the clay; here are different transient acts, but no change or difference at all in the fire; but only in the disposition of the matter on which it works. But in Immanent acts the Case is contrary; for they being in the subject, the variation of them makes an alteration in that, and not the object: as the same man unchanged may be the object sometimes of mens Love, sometimes of their hatred: the variety of these acts makes a difference in the Agent, doth not alwayes suppose any in the Object; and so here, Gods knowing now that this is, Gods not knowing yesterday, that it is now, makes a change in God, but indeed God cannot be said now to know that such a thing is, but to know that now such a thing is [which was not before] and this he did know, what ever is now even from all eternity, his prescience being a Knowledge in praesenti to him▪ though not de praesenti, as to the object; against whose being in eternity more shall be said hereafter against M r Goodwin, but now I attend M r Baxter, who proceeds.
§. 25.
R. B. 1. YOu seem rather to answer in jest then in earnest, when you tell us of the Suns local motion, when our Question was, Whether [the Sun be changed by the variety of Creatures which it doth enlighten and warm] that is, Whether it self receive any change from the terminus or objects of its acts? Do you intend the information of your Reader, or the discovery of Truth, when you shuffle in such an alien Answer? 2. All that its good for, that I know of, is to acquaint us, that you have some full Demonstration against Copernicus, which hath given you a Certainty that he erres; And if one▪ should hear it, perhaps it would prove like your Ordinary Demonstrations: for that which is hint [...]d in your words, seems of kin to them. 3. You yield all that I say concerning the Sun, acknowledging that it is not changed by the variety of Objects: And in the first words you say [Did it hold, I yield it were Argumentum à majori ad minus.] Lay both these together, and judge whether you yield not the whole Cause which you opposed. 4. You still harp on the old string, affirming, Immanent Acts to be in the Subject, and that their variation alters it, when as good Philosophers say they have no Subject, and that Vision, Intellection, &c. have no Termini: Your naked affirmations so oft repeated, rather weary then convince. 5. However you cannot from mans Immanent Acts, argue to Gods, unless they were more like. 6. I am unsatisfied whether a Transient Act (though not qua Transient) make not as much alteration on the Agent as an Immanent? Whether a Transient act be not the same with the Immanent, containing in it all that it contains, with the superaddition of its Reception in, and effect upon a Passive Subject? As in the fore-mentioned instance: If the Sun had been created first alone, its action whereby it now lighteth and heateth, would have been immanent; [Page 64] and yet when the same action shall afterwards become transient by the addition of other creatures to be its Objects, who will imagine that it is ever the less in the Subject (as you say) or that the alteration of it would make ever the less change of the Agent? I confess, I conceive not yet why there should in this point of changing the Agent be any difference between Immanent acts and Transient: though I easily conceive that one only doth change the object. 7. Your friend Mr Jeanes, pag. 231. useth the similitude of [a Rock in a River standing immovable, notwithstanding the succession in the waters that glide by it;] which I think is as defective a similitude, as these here used: yet its plain, that you cannot truly say, This Rock toucheth the water that is an hundred miles from it. Suppose the Sun were an eye, and could see all the world at once, and that pura activitate sine receptione specierum ab objectis: Suppose one man be born, or one flower spring up this day, which was not in being or visible yesterday: This Sun would see that to day which it did not see yesterday without any mutation in it self: And yet seeing is an Immanent act. Now I would know, whether it be fit to say, This Sun sees that as in being which is not in being: Or, Whether it be not fittest to say [It begins to day to see that Creature which begun this day to exist] though by so beginning it be not changed? Its true, God fore-knows all things that shall be: but that is not to know that they be, but that they shall be. 8. Mr Jeans ibid. saith [Yet this is no hinderance but that there may be and is a change in the extrinsecal Denominations of Gods knowledge from the variation of the objects hereof, &c.] so others commonly: And may I not hence conclude, 1. That then I may denominate Gods knowledge of the present existence of things, as Beginning with its object: and his knowledge of the existence or futurity of things, as Ending with its object; that is, when the thing ceaseth to be future or to exist? 2. And may I not conclude, that this Denomination is fittest, and so those that thus speak, do speak more fitly then they that speak otherwise? 3. And that there is some fundamentum in re for such a denomination: or else it were an unfit denomination, seeing names and words should be fitted to the things signified as neer as may be? 9. Do not you imply as much your self, when you say his Prescience is a Knowledge in praesenti to him, though not de praesenti? You confess then that God doth not know de praesenti, the things that now are not: but when they exist he knoweth them de praesenti; I confess the doctrine of the coexistence of all things with God in Eternity, would salve many of these things: but that you here disclaim. 10. Where you say, that [Indeed God cannot be said Now to know that such a thing is, but to know that now such a thing is (which was not before, as in the Errat. you adde)] it is a saying which I understand not, and conjecture it is still maimed of some necessary limb which should make it speak your sense: For I hope you do not believe what ever you say, That Indeed God cannot be said Now to know that those things are, which are indeed: If he know it not Now, when will he know it?
§. 26.
Mr. K. AS the glass by the variety of faces which it represents, hoc est, as the glass without any change in it represents various faces, now one, now another; so doth God know various objects, now one, now another, yet without change. The Antecedent is manifestly false; for that each of these several faces cast a new species on the glass, and those several species make several changes. For this purpose Mr. Baxter [Page 65] might have remembred what his great Logick and Metaphysick Masters say, concerning Ens intentionale, that it is opposed to reale and materiale: The species in the glass is indeed Ens intentionale, in opposition to Materiale, it is not so in opposition to Reale: But their putting and non-putting, or the presence and absence of the species, makes a real change, though not a material one in the glass▪ so real a one as that it may be seen, though not a material one that the childe that catcheth at is ever like to take hold of it; Plainly thus, That is a Real Accident which is in the Subject really, and so is that species, for we see it in the glass; that is a Material Accident which is so in the subject as to depend on it alone for its support, without influence of the efficient; heat or cold have such dependance on the subject, as that that alone can maintain them; as the heat will stick a while in the water, though taken off from the fire, and cold in my hand, though taken out of the water: But these Intentional Accidents though really in the subject, yet are so little supported by it, as that if the efficient do not continue its influence, they immediately perish as light in the air, these species, whether in my glass or my eye; who hath so much Logick and Metaphysicks to spill upon all occasions as Mr. Baxter, would have betrayed, I will not say ignorance, but incogitancy in so trivial a punctillio? Onwards, the case is the same for the species in the eye and the glass, and a change is made by the presence or absence of the species.
§. 26.
R. B. DIsputatore nimium foelici, nihil infoelicius; & nimium sapiente quis minus sapiens? If I spill as much Logick upon all occasions, as you do words, sure I am a voluminous Logician, and make up in number what I want in weight. You wanted an opportunity to multiply words, for ought I know to no purpose, unless to acquaint the unobservant world with your well-furnished Intellect, that they may be assured, that you have all those things at your fingers end, as trivial punctillio's, which I am so ignorant of; and these few words of mine have occasioned the opening of your pack, and the expansion of your wares.
But, 1. You are fain to use the old artifice of putting my words but as the ground of your paraphrase, and then dealing with that paraphrase of your own. This is not so innocent as common a trick. I speak of a change [of the glass] and you put [a change in it:] Had not you newly risen up as the final decider, I should have said, it is yet sub Judice, whether the Intentional or Spiritual Being, in question, be indeed Res or not? And so whether it make any Real change in the glass. I confess you easily dispatch the business, which makes me think of Gorlaeus words, Exercit. Philos. 7. §. 2. p. 108. Quid species sint visibiles inquirendum est: Tam enim earum natura intellectui est ignota, quam ee sensibus notae. Peripateticis tamen & hic, sicut & alibi facilis expeditio. Qualitates aiunt esse spirituales, & corporis esse objectivum, quod habet in speculo vel simili corpori. Nobis hoc non est satis: qui quaerimus porrò, quid qualitas spiritalis, aut quomodo corpus objective possit esse in speculo? Nam hae videntur contradictionem quandam implicare, corporis dari qualitatem spiritalem, & rem extra speculum existentem esse in speculo, &c.
2. But see what unreverent thoughts such Ignorants as I, are apt to have of learned men! I am confidently perswaded, that you, who are so fully acquainted with Gods Nature and Immanent Acts, as to be at a certainty where I am at a loss, for all that do not know what that is that you see with your eyes; nor whether it be in the glass or not! And therefore the Lecture that you have read me of Ens intentionale hath been lost labour as to me!
[Page 66]3. And you had done but your part if you had observed that I speak not of the meer Reception of the agents action, but of the Representation to us of the species: which should not be confounded.
4. Are you sure that it is from the object, that the glass receives that variation that you imagine? If it be, Rocks and stones are more active creatures then some dull souls will easily believe; when at the same time the same Rock or mountain may perform 100000 actions upon so many eyes or glasses. Yea if in the midst of the Action of this stone or Rock, you do but give your glass a knock, and break it into a hundred pieces, it will multiply the action of the Rock an hundred fold; and that without touching or coming near the Agent! Is it not pretty sport to see the activity of these nimble Rocks and Mountains? I am one of those Hereticks, that think these works of God must be the matter of our admiration, but cannot be comprehended by us here: and that it is no good consequence, that because you and your fellows nakedly affirm the contrary (yea notwithstanding all your proofs) therefore Des Cartes, Sr K. Digby. White, Hobbes, besides all the old Adversaries, are certainly in errour. I shall acknowledge more action of the Light, or air on the glass, then of the object, which seems but sine qua non. But withall I suspect, that the same Light or air doth perform the same action in the glass when you stand not before it, or when the object is absent; and yet no species is then seen; no nor visible. And I think that there is the same action on every glass-window, yea on every wall, or stone, or other body, as is on your speculum; and yet you see nothing on them as you do on it. And Hobbes saith, That it is in the eye and not in the glass, which you think you see in the glass (his reproaching of our Doctrine of visible species, I pretermit:) and if so, then there is not so much alteration in the glass, as you imagine. And indeed, you say little to prove it. If your Argument from sight would prove any thing, it would prove that the face is a foot or a yard (or more if you draw back) behinde the glass, and not in the glass: And yet if you go behinde you shall see nothing: Will you believe your eyes that things change into such various colours, and shapes, and quantities as some glasses by small mutations of posture do represent them? Will you believe your eyes that a strait staff is crooked in the water? I can tell you by my observation when I was a Boy, that if you will kill a Fish in a River with a Gun, you must allow much to the fallacy of your medium. If then either it be the action of the light or air, or something else, and not the object, then it is nothing to me, who spoke only against a change by variation of objects: Or if the foresaid action being supposed to be the same on the glass, when several objects, or no objects are before it, that which is superadded from the object is nihil reale, this is nothing against me: Or if the species which seems a foot behinde the glass be not in the glass, but in the eye or some where else, and so the glass be more truly an Agent by Reflection, then a Recipient of that species which I see, still this is nothing against what I said. So that laying aside all that Reception of the action of light, or any thing else, which the glass receives when there is no object present, and laying aside all that which is Received into the eye and air, and not in the glass, and whereof the glass is but a Causa sine qua non; then call the rest an Ens intentionale or spirituale, or what you will; but prove it to be quid reale altering the glass, and do not nakedly affirm it.
You say, that my great Logick and Metaphysick Masters say, That Ens intentionale, is opposed to Reale & Materiale: and yet you say that the species in the glass is not opposed to Ens reale. It is, and it is not, seem reconcilable to you then without [Page 67] a distinction. Indeed as Real is opposed to [feigned] I doubt not it is Real, but as it is opposed to Modes and Relations, and such like, that some place between Ens and Nihil, it must better be known what it is, then the name of Ens intentionale or spirituale will acquaint us, before we can conclude for certain that it is Real.
As for your Material Accident, it will require more ado to prove, that there is any such thing in the world, as an Accident depending on the Subject alone for support, especially a quality, as you instance in: Sure you intend not the withdrawing of the influence of every efficient, but of some lower or instrumental: I think, at least, Gods efficiency is necessary to be continued, for the Continuation of the being of every Accident, and ordinarily some lower efficiency too.
As for the Logick and Metaphysicks which on all occasions I spill, I take the charge as unfit to be answered, as not coming from your head or heart, but from your Naturals, your spleen and gal.
My Ignorance in comparison of you, I am so easily brought to acknowledge, that I wonder you should think so many words necessary to evince it: (yet you should have done it in intelligible language, and not abrupt expressions, defective of sense, almost such as Hierom describeth in his lib. 1. cont. Jovin. initio.) But how did you prove my Ignorance or Incogitancy of Ens intentionale? Deep silence! Because I did not mention it, or else who knows why? By that reason I am ignorant that Mr K. is an honest man, because I do not mention it; But by what is said, you may see its possible to have heard talk of Ens intentionale, and yet to think this similitude tolerable.
And what if you obtain all that you contend for? viz. That the similitude is faulty! Alas, I shall easily grant it of any similitude whereby we illustrate the Nature or Acts of God. Suppose then that this glass did make the same Representations sine receptione specierum: Or because these [...]nanimates are more remote, use the similitude of the Oeulus Ʋniversalis, which I mentioned even now. I am troubled that you force me to weary the poor Reader with so many words on so poor and unprofitable a business: But there's no remedy.
§. 27.
Mr. K. NOw whereas Mr. Baxter addes, That whatsoever some say, he doth not think, that the beholding of ten distinct colours at one view, doth make ten distinct acts of the sight, or alterations on it; I do not think that ever rational man said they do, for it were strange there should be but one view, and yet ten distinct acts of sight; but the question is, Whether the change of one of these objects doth not change the species in the eye, and so occasion another view or sight? Or rather it is beyond all question that they do▪ and yet whether they do or no need not be questioned neither; the point that lies before us, is, Whether distinct or new acts do not Cause an alteration? Which is that that we have just Cause to affirm with confidence, can have no place in God; and consequently no new immanent Act; so then there being nothing produced by Mr. Baxter which may suggest a suspition that there may new Immanent Acts be admitted in God, or any but such as are Eternal, Come we to the—
§. 27.
R. B. YOu are minded to play with the ambiguity of the word [View] which I take for all that Reception in the eye, or activity of it which it performeth [Page 68] in one Instant; and so for that natural Act whereby I fix my eye on one place at once, seeing as many things as at once I am capable of seeing: You take it, it seems for your intentional Action, or also the act which the visive power performeth, as in reception of that alone. I think the sense I use it in, is more common. And I say again, that it is none of our question, what light, air, &c. do on the eye: for they do no more when I behold one Rock, then when I behold the sands on the shore: But the Question is, What the objects do over and above on the eye? And whether if I see many millions of millions of sands at one instant, there be so many Real Actions of my eye at that instant? And whether every distinct sand that is added or taken away, there be one Act added or taken away, and so a real alteration in my eye? The rest which you adde is over and over answered before, and therefore being ashamed that I have, said so much on so unprofitable a point (though constrained) I surcease: Onely adding this brief rehearsal of what is said before.
1. Remember that we speak not of those Immanent acts whose object is Eternal: but of those that have a temporary object, as the actual existence of things, &c.
2. These kinde of Immanent Acts may be called Transient after a sort, in that they do quoad Terminationem objectivam, pass to an extrinsick object.
3. Agere, in the sense now taken, when applied to God, signifieth something more then meerly Esse.
4. The whole Generical Essence of Action is found in the species of Action.
5. Intelligere, Velle, Amare, relate to some Objects: Qui Intelligit, aliquid Intelligit: qui Amat, aliquid Amat. These terms therefore do alwayes (when affirmed as being in God) connote their Objects.
6. There is a necessity therefore that the acts be variously denominated from the diversity of objects. It is no way fit to say, That God doth Nill Good, or Will sin, or that his Velle & Nolle is all one: Or that his Intelligere & Velle is all one. For, as it is said, the Act connotes the Object: and therefore we are not so much as to ascribe the act to God when there is not an object for it; or as to an aliene Object. Else we might say, Dei Intelligere & Velle sunt idem: Deus Intelligit Peccata: Ergo Deus Vult peccata: And that God Nilleth Good, because he Willeth Good, seeing in God Vells and Nolle are all one.
7. This necessity of various extrinsecal denominations is ordinarily confessed by the most rigid Divines. I shall cite one more anon.
8. This Denomination hath fundamentum in re, or else it were delusory and abusive; these being the fittest names that most agree to the Things (of which see Mcuriss. Metaph. Scoti, li. 2. c. 3. Conclus. 3. & Durand. l. 1. dist. 19. q. 5. §. 13, 14. & Aquin. de Veritate, Mater. 7. q. 1, 2, &c.) Notions and Names are true or false, as they agree or disagree to the things.
9. On the same ground as God may thus be said to Understand, Will, Nill, Love, &c. and these may be said to be not the same, he may also be said to have divers acts of Intellection, Willing, Nilling, and these not to be the same: e. g. That it is not all one [...]o elect Peter, and to elect John.
10. Whatsoever this diversity of names implieth, as its foundation in God, (whether a bare Relative diversity, or also a Modal, or what ever the like) it is certain that it implieth no Composition in him, but it is onely what is consistent with his simplicity.
11. Some of the objects of Gods Knowledge and Love, are not from Eternity. [Page 69] The Existence is more then the meer Esse Volitum, or Will that they shall exist: And it is not all one to know the Thing it self in it self, and to know it in its Cause. Though God therefore did from Eternity intuitively know the Esse Volitum, and know the Creature in himself its Cause, and know its futurity, and so fore▪ know all things: yet it follows not that he intuitively knew the Creature in it self, as existing, (Unlesse we assert the co-existence of all things in Eternity with God.
12. There is therefore the same reason to Denominate Gods Intellection, Love, &c. as beginning and Ending with its Objects, as there is to denominate them as divers from the diversity of objects. And therefore this is a fit and necessary way of speech. It is not fit to say, God is now Creating the world quoad actionis formalitatem, though you over-look the effect: it is not fit to say, That God now knows that the world will be Created (unlesse you respect some new Creation) or that Abraham, Moses, David, shall Die, or that Christ shall rise again, &c.
13. This Denomination of Gods acts as beginning and ending, hath as much foundation in the thing, and is as true as the Denomination of his acts as various. And this may as well consist with Gods Immu [...]ability, as the other with his Simplicity. The reason is evidently the same.
Now for the one, hear what others say. Schibler Met. l. 2. c. 3. Tit. 6. n. 247, 248. Quastio est de Accidentibus quae in D [...]o sint. Haec enim solum possunt compositionem in Deo facere, &c. Unde specialiter relinquitur, quod in Deo non flat compositio ex subjecto & accidente, si maximè ei conveniat Agere, tali actione quae praedicamentalis dici possit. Nam actiones non comparantur ad agens, per modum essendi in, sed solum per modum essendi ab alio, ut infra, &c. Atque ita actiones tantum apprehenduntur ut egredientes ab essentia rei. Quod aut [...]m egreditur ab essentia rei, hoc, eo ipso, non potest cum essentia facere compositionem, quae extremorum unionem requirit. And n. 97. Nam Actiones Divinae transecuntes, non sunt sub ectivè in Deo, sed solum a Deo procedunt; unde nullam compositionem cum Deo faciunt, &c. Quanquam id etiam (verum) est de actionibus Immanentibus: Hac enim non dicuntur Immanentes positivè, quasi in agente rigide loquendo subject entur, sed N [...]gativè solum, quia in externam materiam non transiunt. Ʋnde ad rationem actionis simpliciter & Immanentis & transeuntis, non requiritur esse in, sed solum esse ab: Idcoque neutrum facit cum agente Compositionem. Et sic anima nostra, si incipiat intelligere aut Velle, non tamen componitur, tum exsuo esse & Intellectione & Volitione quà tales sunt: sed in utroque statu aeque est Anima simplex. Dixi, quà rales sunt, Quia ad intellectionem potest consequi aliqua compositio, si sit per speciem Intelligibilem.]
Keckerman in System. Theolog l. 1. c. 3. maintaineth, that the Persons in the Trinity, differ from the Divine Estence, as Modus a re, and from each other as Modus a Modo, and that Ens and Modus make no Composition. Much more may it be so said of Relations to things external.
Altingius Problem. Theolog. Par. 1. pag. 55. distinguisheth Gods actions, 1. Sunt act us intrinsici & Immanentes qui non transcunt in object um externum & nullum prorsus respectum aut [...] ad [...]. Tales sunt act us personales quos Scholastici notionales vocant, gignere, spirare, &c. Horum absoluta est necessitas absque potentia ad oppositum, & sunt aeterni. 2. Sunt actus extri [...]sici qui non sunt in Deo, sed à Deo; five qui a Deo sunt effectivè, in Creaturis autem subjectivè: velut creare, gubernare, redimere, &c. Deus enim extrinsecus solum ab iis denominatur. 3. Sunt Act us Intrinseci quidem in Deo, sed Connotantes respectum ac [...] ad extra, ut scire, velle. Scit enim [Page 70] Deus non solum se, sed etiam omnino quicquid [...]st scibile, sive ut possibile, sive ut futurum. Vult etiam non solum se, sed etiam alia extra se, &c. Hujusmodi act us sunt Decreta, relativi nimirum ad extra, & praeter voluntatem [...] statuunt rerum externarum. Compositio autem hinc male infertur, &c. Matk also, that he names the first sort onely Immanent acts.
And for the fitnesse and necessity of the Denominations, hear what Estius confesseth in Sent. l. 1. dist. 39. §. 3. De hac igitur scientia Dei (viz. ad enunciabilia) quamvis & ipsa sine dubio sit in se invariabilis, variè tamen loqui nos oportet, prout variantur propositiones secundum tempora. Cum enim nullam propositionem scire quis dicatur, hoc sciendi modo, nisi veram, eademque propositi [...] propter mutationem rerum ac temporum, modo vera sit, modo falsa; consequens cris, Deum nunc scire propositionem aeliquam quam post [...]a nesciat, & contra. Quod per singulas temporum differentias facile est declarare. Nam propositionem veram de praeterito, ut, Christus natus est, ante bis mille annos non sciebat, sed Christo nato scire coepit; eadem tamen nunquam scire desinet, sicut nec ullam aliam quae sit praeteriti temporis, quia propositio de praeterito vera, semper erit vera. Quod intellige de praeterito in genere: Nam si certum tempus designet, ut Heri natus est Christus, scire eam desijt, & de futur [...] simpliciter, ut, Post biduum pascha sict. Rursum propositionem de futuro veram, ut Omnes resurgemus, scivit quidem ab aeterno, nec fieri potest ut talem aliquando incipiat scire, quia propositio de futuro vera semper fuit vera, lo [...]uendo similiter de future in genere. Sed eam aliquando scire desinet; nempe post resurrectionem factam, quia tum vera esse desinet ipsa propositio. Denique propositionem de praesenti veram, scit tantisper dum ea vera manet, velut istam, Ecclesia militat. Ac talem incipit aliquando scire, & aliquando scire definit; nisi forte veritas propositionis sit perpetua, &c. Porro omnis haec loquendi varietas non inde nascitur, quod circa Dei scientiam accidat aliqua Mutatio, sed quia mutantur res subjectae. Ʋnde necesse est & ipsas mutari propositiones, &c. Manifestum est autem rebus mutatis non necessariò scientiam mutari, ne creatam quidem, nisi quid aliud concurrat, velut Compositio aut divisio, aut certitudo major per experientiam rei praesentis accepta. Quae in Deo locum non habent. Sicut ergo scientia Medici invariata permanet dum eidem homini ob variam ejus affectionem, modo haec pharmaca, modo alia diversa praescribit, &c.]
14. Lastly, I again desire the Reader to remember, that if I seem in all this to speak sceptically, it is no wonder, when all that I intend is but to convince these self-conceited Learned men, that these things are indeed beyond their reach, and that they know not what they think they know: it being my own opinion, That Action, Intellection and Will, are but Metaphorically ascribed to God, and that we cannot know what that is in propriety, which these expressions do shadow out in God. Tho. White saith; Institut. Sacrar. li. 2. Lect. 1. pag. 136, 137. Quare dicimus abstrabendo a nostris conceptibus, esse Deum unam simplicitatem simplicissimam, quae neque sit Deus, neque ens, neque aliud formaliter quod nos cogitare possimus; sed nostras cogitationes eam inad equate repraesentare; non quasi accipientes aliquod unum ex pluribus q [...]ae ibi actu sint, sed accipiendo participationes quasdam inferiores eo quod ipse est, & dissimiliores quam salvia vel pediculus est respectu hominis. Whether this hold or not of the notions, Deus & Ens, I doubt not but it holds of Intellection and Volition: or at least that we men are uncertain what these are in God. And the strange confidence of men in this, that they know that which no man knows indeed, hath made them unreverently vent their conceits, and fill the Church with perplexing co [...]troversies about things that none can determine. As Mr Burgess saith of Justific. Lect. 20. [Only you must take notice that we are [Page 71] in meer darkness, and not able to comprehend how God is said to act or work, &c. Therefore it is a sure truth, De Deo etiam vera dicere periculosum est, & tunc dignè Deum aestimamus, cum inaestimabilem dicimus; then do we rightly esteem of him, when we Judge him above our thoughts or esteem.] Matth. Paris speaking of the Dominicans teaching, which caused that great dissention and confusion in the University of Paris, writes thus (ad annum Dom. 1243. as he is cited by the Prefacer to Guiliel. de Sancto Amore) Incipiebant disputare & disserere subtilius & celsius quam decuit aut expedivit: Qui non verentes tangere montes a gloria Dei opprimendi nitebantur secreta Dei investigabilia temere perscrutari, & Judicia Dei quae sunt abyssus multa, nimis praesumptuosè indagare. Deo enim plus placet firmae fidei simplicitas, quam nimis transcendens in Theologiâ subtilitas.] Dr. Twiss Vindic Grat. l. 2. Crim. 3. §. 15. Sed quid fiet si haec humana ratio non ferat? An nihil [...]redendum nobis in [...]um [...] nisi quod quomodo fiat, humana ratione explicare See Mr K's own conf [...]ssion, how little we can conceive or express of God, in the end of his Epist. Dedicat. possit? Mysteriun hoc forsitan adorand [...]m potius quam scrutandum, &c. Et li. 2. Crim. 3. § [...]0. pag. (mih [...]) 405. E [...]iam non erubesco fateri, licet nunquam dub [...]trem de sancta Dei natura, tanquam de omni sceleris reatu alien [...]ssima, hoc tamen diu me su [...]pensum tenuisse (forte etiam hodie non paucos suspensos tene [...]) quaenam scilicet sit illa vera ratio, qui modus operationis Divinae quo siat ut se in omni actione tanquam Causa efficacissima immisceat, extra tamen omnem vitii contagionem, citra justam culpae suspicionem: Et an hodie per omnia satis explicatum habeamus, Deus novit, &c. Significat etiam Calvinus, multis hunc nodum visum esse inexplicabilem, &c. Hoc modo tutius consulendum censuit nostrae pietati, si fateamur hehitudinem sensus nostri my sterium hoc non capere.] And why should not the same Confession extend to the present case also? Though we do not use to confess our Ignorance till we are utterly at a loss (and then we say as Cajetan when he was stall'd, It doth not quietare intellectum) yet we have oft as great cause to confess it where we are confident sometimes; as perhaps Ariba that blames Cajetan for his Confession of Ignorance, might know as little as Alvarez that commends it for a most holy and pious speech.
I had thought to have said no more to this point, but finding a most Learned, I know Mr. Rutherford hath some jarring with him; and I do not undertake to justifie all that any man hath said, when I call them Orthodox; but I confess I think that for solidity in the controverted points that they meddle with, Davenant, Camero and Baronius are the glory of B [...]itain, as hav [...]ng happily hit on that mean, which many others have mist of, which I would not have understood as disparaging any others: for even in this, they have many excellent Companions, and others have their excellencies, that were not in this so happy as they. Our Renowned B. Usher, D Preston, D. Field, and many another famous light in England, have not only deserved the honour of eminent Learning and Piety, but even in this judicious Discovery of the truth, between the extreams which others have run into, they have helped to reduce the violent to Moderation, and to shew men a surer way to overcome the adversary, then their disadvantagious extreams. Orthodox, Judicious Divine Robert Baronius (Camero secundus, vel Cameroni secundus) to speak so fully in this point, in his excellent Treatise de Peccato Mortali & Veniali, I have adventured to transcribe the whole Chapter, it being not long, both that the Reader may see the Reasons of the like passages in my fore-going Replies more clearly, and that Mr. K. may be yet better satisfied that I am not so singular in these things, as he seems to think me.
Disp. Parte 1a sect. 6. Deum Posse eos amare quos prius odit, & odisse eos quos prius amavit, abs{que} ulla vel physica, vel morali voluntatis suae mutatione, obiter Declaratur.
EX doctrina praecedenti sectione tradita de justificatorum ad certum tempus exclusione ab eo favoris Divini gradu, quo priu [...] diligebantur, nequaquam sequitur Deum, aut voluntatem Dei in se mutabilem esse, sive loquamur de mutabilitate physica, sive de mutabilitate morali.
Nam quod ad divinum amorem executionis attinet, Deum non amare justificatos peccati mortalis reatu involutos amore executionis, nihil aliud est, quam eum non conferre in illos ea bonae spiritualia, seu media salutis, quae prius in eos conferebat nulla igitur est hic mutatio quoad actus immanentes, qui in ipso Deo existunt, sed tantum quoad actus transeuntes, qui sunt extra Deum & in hominibus recipiuntur, & proinde iis mutatis non mutatur Deus, sed illi in quibus hi actus, & eorum effecta recipiuntur. Dicet aliquis: Deus non solùm non confert illa beneficia in eos, sed etiam durante eo statu non vult ea conferre: prius autem voluit ea conferre: & proinde mutatus est. Resp. Voluit prius illa beneficia communicare iis existentibus in alio statu. Sed iis existentibus in hoc statu impietatis, & impaenitentiae, ne{que} jam vult, ne{que} unquam voluit, imo ab aeterno noluit haec beneficia communicare. Quam vis igitur durante hoc statu benevolentia Dei quasi ligata & impedita sit; ut supra monai, hinc tam [...]n non sequitur eam in se mutatam esse: sed tantum mutatum esse ejus objectum, quia viz. objectum ejus, hoc est, homines electi, prius erant capaces istorum beneficiorum nunc vero eorum capaces non sunt.
3. Major & gravior difficultas est de amore complacentiae, & odio displicentiae ei opposito. Cum enim hi actus sint immanentes, hoc est, in ipso Deo existentes, iis mutatis videtur ipse Deus in se mutari. Responderi solet primo, non mutari hos actus realiter, & a parte rei; quia uter{que} hic act [...]s in Deo fuit ab aeterno, & in aeternum in eo durabit, cum respectu ad diversos istius hominis status, quorum alter alteri in tempore fuccessit. Ita respondet Fonseca tom. 3. Metaph. lib. 7. cap. 8. quaest. 5. sect. 7. Quod si (inquit) quis objiciat eundem posse prius odio haberi a Deo, si sit injustus, postea verò diligi, si sit justus, & vice versa, sine ulla divinae voluntatis mutatione, ergo nihil repugnare quo minus divina voluntas nullo modo mutata transeat a nolitione in volitionem rei ejusdem, ex dict is patet solutio. Deus enim non eundem odio habet, ac diligit pro eodem tempore, sed pro diversis. Adde, quod etsi in eodem homine justitia succedit peccato, aut peccatum justitiae, tamen odio, quo Deus illum prosequitur ut peccatorem, non succedit amor, quo illum diligit ut justum, aut contra; sed uter{que} affectus divinus aeternus est respiciens diverses hominis status, quorum alter alteri succedit in tempore.
4. Secundò respondeo: quaemvis concederemus esse aliquam mutationem & successionem in actibus immanentibus amoris & odii divini formaliter consideratis, quatenus per rationem distinguuntur ab essentia divina & inter se, hoc est, quamvis diceremus actum amoris complacentiae ergo electum in hoc casu non amplius esse in Deo, ei{que} succedere actum odii displicentiae, non tamen inde sequeretur esse mutationem aliquam realem in ipso Deo. Nam actus Dei liberi nihil superaddunt voluntati aut essentiae divinae, praeter respectum seu relationem rationis, aut extrinsecam aliquam connotationem, quae tamen ad realem eorum entitatem non pertinent: nam tota eorum entitas realis est ipsa Dei essentia, nihil{que} intrinsecè includunt praeter eam. Quamvis [Page 73] igitur Deus desineret amare eos quos prius amabat, non mutaretur mutatione reali, quia nihil reale amitteret▪ si{que} inciperet eos amare quos prius odit, non mutaretur, quia nihil reale ei accederet, mutatio autem realis non fit, sine aliqua additione aut a [...]latione real [...].
5. Non necesse est ut hic probem actus illos nullam realem entitatem (sive ea vocetur perfectio, sive extensio actus divini ad objecta) superaddere essentiae divinae. Nam Evangelici omnes hoc unanimiter tenent: & quod ad Pontificios attinet, quam vis Cajetanus in 1•m partem Thomae quaest. 19. art. 2 & 3 Fonseca tom. 3. Metaph. lib. 7. cap. 8. quaest. 5. sect. 4. & Salas 1a. 2ae quaest. 6. art. 3. tract 3 disp. 3. sect 8. doceant actus liberos Dei, seu decreta ejus, superaddere essentiae divinae realem quandam entitatem, quae ab aeterno potuit non esse in Deo, quae{que} revera in eo non fuisset, si ab aeterno aliter decrevisset, & hos actus non babuisset, major tamen & melior eorum pars in contraria est sententia viz. Suarez. tom. 2. Metaph. disp. 30. sect. 9. & Va [...]quez. in 1•m partem Thomae, disput: 80. cap. 1. & 2. Valent. tom. 1. disput. 1. quaest. 19. punct. 4. Arrubal in primam partem Thomae, disput 54 cap. 2. & se sequentibus. Becanus in summa, Parte 1. Tract. 1. cap. 11. quaest. 4. Trigosus in summa Theologica Bonaventurae quaest. 13. art. 2. dub 3. conclus. 1. Franciscus Cumel variarum disput tom. 1. in disp de praescientia Dei dub. 3 p. 57, &c. Horum sententia proculdubio est vertor illa altera, quia si in Deo est realis aliqua entitas, quae ab aeterno potuit in eo non esse, at{que} adeo potuit non omnino esse, seu esse merum nihil, necessariò sequitur aliquid esse in Deo quod non est Deus.
6. Dicet aliquis: si mutatis actibus liberis Deus realiter non mutatur, poterit salva sua immutabilitate, mutare decreta sua de rebus futuris, & proinde poterit incipere velle quod nunquam antea voluit, vel desinere velle quod prius voluit. Nam talis mutatio decretorum divinorum fit sine aliqua additione, aut ablatione reali. Resp. Duplicem esse mutationem, viz. Physicam & Moralem. Physica, seu realis mutatio fit per additionem, aut ablationem alicujus entitatis realis. Moralis mutatio est propositi & voluntatis, aut etiam cognitionis & scientiae mutatio; ut si quis quod antea putabat verum, deinde falsum judicet; & quod antea facere decreverat postea nolit, quod sane magnam imperfectionem in eo qui sic mutatur arguit▪ Vide Vasquezium in 1•m partem Thomae super quaest. 9. art. 4. Cum igitur Deus dicitur absolute immutabilis id non minus intelligitur de morali quam de Physica immutabilitate, nam mutatio propositi & consilii quae moralis vocatur, arguit inconstantiam, imprudentiam, & cognitionis imperfectionem, quae non minus summae & absolutae Dei perfectioni repugnant, quam Physica, seu realis mutatio, ut bene observat Suar [...]z. tom. 2. Metaph disp. 30. sect. [...]. num. 58.
7 Ex his patet Deum, cum odio displicentiae prosequitur electum, quem prius amabat amore complacentiae, non mutari; quam vis fortasse nunc minimè sit in eo actus complacentiae, consideratus ut respectum rationis ad tale objectum divinae essentiae superaddit: Primò enim ablato tali actu, Deus physicè & realiter non mutatur, quia nihil ei decedit praeter merum respectum rationis ut irrefragabilibus argumentis demonstrant Suarez. & Vasquez, locis citatis, Secundò, neque mutatur moraliter, quia non mutat propositum, sed contra, permanet in suo proposito, aut potius in naturali sua inclinatione, quo ab aeterno fuit, nunc est, & semper erit, propenfus ad a mandam virtutem, & ad detestanda vitia, seu peccata. Permanet etiam in suo proposito perducendi eos quos elegit & justificavit ad aeternam gloriam, nam solidum stat Dei fundamentum, habens sigillum hoc, Novit Dominus eos qui sunt sui, 2 Tim. 2. 19.
Mark here that the reason which Baronius, Burgersdicius and others give against Gods change of his Decrees, viz. he should be morally mutable, holds not of the immanent acts which presuppose their objects, and whose objects are really mutable: as Baronius here manifesteth. It is certain that things are sometime future, sometime present or existent, and sometime past: and that they are so is of God, but without moral mutation: therefore his Knowing them so, and his Willing and Approving them so, is without moral mutation too. So the same man is good or holy to day that was bad and unholy yesterday: therefore God may love him to day with complacency and approbation, whom he disliked before; and may know him to be as he is, which before he did not, because he was not as he is. 2. Note the reason why God cannot change his Decrees: Both because they do effect or produce their own objects (as commonly called) viz. Rerum futuritionem, when as Gods Approbation, his Knowledge purae visionis, his Complacency, &c. do presuppose their objects. 2. And it would be a contradiction for the same event, to be future and not future, e. g. mans salvation: therefore if God absolutely Decree that Peter shall be saved, and after Decree the contrary, the first Decree must be changed causlesly, and for want of power not be executed; and also as it is verbum mentis, it must be false: which cannot be.
I Had thought to have said nothing of particular Scriptures that speak of Gods acts which we call Immanent as Beginning or Ending, because they are so commonly known: But lest any should think I slight Scripture Argument, which I principally esteem, or lest they take it for granted that there is none such, because none are produced, I will adde some texts in confirmation of the minor of this following Argument.
If God himself in his Word do ordinarily speak of his own Acts, which we call Immanent, as Beginning or Ending, then is it not unfit for us to do so to. (God knows best how to express his own Acts.)
But God himself in his Word doth ordinarily speak of his own Acts, which we call Immanent, as Beginning or Ending:
Therefore.
Luk. 2. 52. Jesus increased in favour with God and man.] Gods [favouring] Christ is an Immanent act: and yet Christ increased in Gods favour: Increase signifieth mutation, by an inception of further degrees.
Rom. 9. 25. I will call them my People which were not my people, and her Beloved which was not beloved.] Love is an Immanent act.
Joh. 16. 27. The Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me and beleeved, &c.] Therefore it was when they beleeved and loved Christ, that the Father in this sense began to love them.
Joh. 14. 21, 23. He that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, &c. And my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, &c.]
Pro. 8. 17. I love them that love me, &c.] Therefore with this same love, they were not before beloved, though with another sort of love they were.
Joh. 10. 17. Therefore doth the Father love me, because I lay down my life, &c.
Hos. 11. 1. When Israel was a childe then I loved him.
Deut. 7. 12, 13. If ye hearken, &c. the Lord thy God will keep unto thee the Covenant, &c. And he will love thee, &c.
Hos. 9. 15. I will love them no more: All their Princes are revolters.
Psal. 5. 5. Thou hatest all the workers of iniquity.] Such are the Elect before conversion.
Gen. 4. 7. If thou do well shalt thou not be Accepted, &c?
So all those texts that speak of Gods being reconciled, which properly signifies an Immanent act.
Act. 10. 35. He that feareth God and worketh righteousness is Accepted of him.
Mat. 3. 17. This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.
Heb. 13. 16. With such sacrifice God is well pleased.
Heb. 11. 5. He had this testimony that he pleased God.
1 King. 3. 10. And the speech pleased the Lord that Solomon asked, &c.
Heb. 11. 6. Without faith it is impossible to please God.
1 Thess. 4. 1. How ye ought to walk and please God.
1 Cor. 7. 32. He that is unmarried careth, &c. how he may please the Lord.
Rom. 8. 8. They that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Prov. 15. 8. The prayer of the upright is his delight.
2 Sam. 15. 26. If he thus say, I have no delight in thee, &c.
Jer. 9. 24. For in these things do I delight saith the Lord.
Zeph. 3. 17. He will rejoyce over thee with joy, he will rest in his love; he will joy over thee, &c.
Deut. 28. 63. And it shall come to passe, as the Lord rejoyced over you to do you good, &c. so the Lord will rejoyce over you to destroy you, &c.
Deut. 30. 9. For the Lord will again rejoyce over thee for good.
Psal. 104. 31. The Lord shall rejoyce in his works.
Isa. 62. 5. As the bridegroom Rejoyceth over the bride, so shall thy God Rejoyce over thee.
2 Tim. 2. 15. Study to shew thy self approved unto God.
Deut. 32. 19. When the Lord saw it, he abhorred them.
Gen. 1. 4, 10, 13, 31. God saw the light that it was good.
Ifa. 59. 15, 16. And the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgement: And he saw that there was no man, and wondred, &c.
Gen. 29. 31. When the Lord saw that Leah was hated, he, &c.
Jer. 26. 2, 3. Diminish not a word. If so be they will hearken and turn every man from his evil way, that I may repent me of the evil, which I purpose to do unto them, because of the evil of their doings.
Jer. 36. 3. It may be the house of Judah will hear all the evil which I purpose to do unto them, that they may return every man from his evil way, that I may forgive, &c.
Gen. 6. 6. It repented the Lord that he had made man.] So the 7th verse.
Exod. 32. 14. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
1 Sam. 15. 35. The Lord Repented he had made Saul King] So the eleventh verse.
2 Sam. 24. 16. The Lord Repented him of the evil, and said to the Angel, &c.
Psal. 106. 46. He remembred for them his Covenant, and Repented according to the multitude of his mercies.
Jer. 26. 19. And the Lord Repented him of the evil, &c.
Amos 7. 3. The Lord Repented for this: It shall not be saith the Lord.] So verse 6.
Jonah 4. 2. I knew that thou art a gracious God, and mercifull, slow to anger and of great kindness, and Repentest thee of the evil.
Jon. 3. 10. And God saw their works that they turned from their evil way, and God Repented of the evil that he had said he would do unto them, and did it not.
Jo [...]l 2. 13. He is gracious, &c. slow to anger, and Repenteth him of the evil.
Jer. 15. 6. I am weary with Repenting.
Hos. 11. 8. My heart is turned within me: my repentings are kindled together.
Psal. 30. 5. For his Anger endureth but for a moment.
Psal. 103. 8, 9. The Lord is mercifull and gracious, slow to Anger, &c. Neither will he keep his Anger for ever.
Isa. 63. 10. Therefore he was Turned to be their enemy, &c.
Psal. 85. 3. Thou hast taken away all thy wrath, thou hast turned thy self from the fiercenesse of thy anger.
2 Chron. 12. 12. And when he humbled himself the wrath of the Lord turned from him that he would not destroy him.
Josh. 7. 26. So the Lord turned from the fierceness of his wrath.
So 2 Chron. 29. 10. & 30. 8, 9. & Psal. 106. 23. Jer. 18. 20. and so frequently.
Also very many places that mention the kindling or arising of Gods wrath.
Psal. 78. 38. Many a time turned he his anger away and did not stirre up all his wrath.
Prov. 24. 18. Lest the Lord see it, and it displease him, and turn away his wrath [...]om him. There are three several immanent acts mentioned together.
So all those Texts where Remembring and Forgetting are spoken of God,
So many more Texts that mention Gods being displeased, Gen. 38. 10. Num. 11. 1. 1 Chron. 21. 7. Ps. 60. 1. Zech. 1. 2. 15.
So many Texts that speak of Gods seeing, as Gen 18. 21, &c.
Psal. 34. 17. The righteous cry and the Lord heareth and delivereth, &c.
Psal. 69. 33. For the Lord heareth the poor and despiseth not his prisoners.
With many more places that speak of Gods Hearing and Hearkening.
So many Texts that mention his Regarding, and his Considering, and Pondering.
And many that mention his Abhorring, and his despising.
And many Texts that speak of Gods Pity and Compassion to the miserable.
And many that speak of his Favour as beginning or ending, and mans finding favour in his eyes.
And many that speak of his Grace when it signifieth favour, and is expressed as beginning or changing. With many more to the same purpose.
Judg. 10. 13. 16. Ye have forsaken me and served other Gods; Wherefore I will deliver you no more. Vers. 16. They put away the strange Gods and served the Lord, and his soul was grieved for the misery of Israel, &c.] And he did deliver them by Jephtah. Yet here God seemeth to revoke a peremptory sentence.
If any shall say, that all these later are but figurative speeches applied to God from the manner of men: I as easily grant it as any man: But withall remember these two things. 1. That I suppose it is as true of Gods Knowing and Willing, his Electing, Decreeing, Purposing, &c. only differing in the degree of impropriety: Till the contrary be better proved then I have seen it, I think this will be [Page 77] my opinion. 2. It is onely the fitnesse or unfitnesse of these wayes of speech concerning God, tha [...] I am now enqui [...]ing into; and not of the propriety. If it be the Scripture-way so ordinarily to speak of Gods Immanent acts as New, as Beginning or Ceasing, then is it not unlawfull or unfit for us so to speak, in imitation of the holy Ghost: still acknowledging the unavoidable Impropriety of our expressions, and the Incomprehensibleness of that in God, which by such expressions is hinted out unto us.
I remember what Zanchius saith in Epist. Joh. Cratoni, in the third Vol. of his Works, pag. (mihi) 135. Quod ais, Precibus moveri Deum [...] est, quam si tollamus è Scripturis, quae impietates & quot pugnantia non è Scripturis colligentur?