A Trumpet Sounded Out of the Wilderness of AMERICA; Which may serve as a Warning to the Government and People of England to Beware of Quakerisme.

Wherein is shewed the Great contradictions of the QUAKERS, both in their former and later Writings. Also how they deny Jesus of Nazareth to be the CHRIST. And how in Pensilvania and there-away, where they have the Government in their own Hands, they hire and encourage Men to fight; and how they Persecute, Fine, Imprison, and take away Goods for Conscience sake. Notwithstanding they formerly exclaimed against the Government of England, &c. for the same things. Setting forth likewise there base Temporizing with whatever Go­vernment is uppermost, &c.

By DANIEL LEEDS.

Prov. 27. v. 5.

Open Rebuke is better than secret Love.

[...]d by William Bradford at the Bible in New [...]k; and are to be Sold by B. Aylmer at the Three Pidgeons in Cornhill, and C. Brome at the Gun the West-end of St. Paul's London. 1699.

Friendly Reader;

THere has happened some Errors in printing the following treatise, occasioned partly by my distance from the Press, and partly by reason of its being thronged with other Work. But the chief of them are here noted, which the Reader is desired to observe in reading, and par­ticularly one above the rest, it is in pag. 11. 2d collumn, at the end of 8th line, these follow­ing words are left out, which the Reader is de­sired to add, viz. [And his Flesh, and Blood, and Bones are of his Nature] for Isaac Penning­ton's words are these, viz. For that which he (Christ) took upon him was our Garment, even the flesh and blood of our Nature, which is of an earthly perishing Nature; but he is of an eternal Nature, and his flesh and blood and bones are of his Nature.

The rest are escapes of less Note, which follow, viz.

Page 4. line 23. blot out but. p. 10. l. 10. for 83 read 283. p. 26. l. 10. read so that as W. P. p. 38. l. 1. for as above, r. before at Numb. 27. p. 52. l. 17. read deny Christ to be God and Man. p. 54. l. 10. f. 10. r. 107. p. 58. l. 3. r. lugg. p. 72. [...]6 [...] f. and r. or. p. 74. l. 9 r. knaw. p. 78. l. 15. [...]cutting. p. 106. l. 24. r. if. p. 107. l. 26. for 5.13. read 513. p. 110. l. 20. r. fears. p. 111. 11. r. falsly. p. 130. l. 7. f. after r a few. p. 133 [...]2. r. et ernal God.

The PREFACE.

NOtwithstanding the ensuing Treatise seems to render the People called Quakers not only Hetrodox in their Doctrines, but Ʋnconstant and Hypocritical therein also; yet it is my real belief, That the Quakers at first came forth in Life and Power, and made a good beginning, Indeed so did most of Sects in Chri­stendom. ac­cording to what was made manifest to them. Yet nevertheless by reading their Books of Contrversie, 'tis easily seen how the Life and Power, that formerly attend­ed them, did more and more vanish, as they sell to contending with one another about Trifles and Cere­monie [...], instituting this aend that Order, and getting into Form; and this some of themselves did formerly discern▪ They at first came forth in Power, at last settled down in Form. And yet▪ I am livingly sensible that there are many, yea, very many honest sincere hearted People among the Quakers, even among those who are Opposers of Georg [...] Keith and the late S [...]pera [...]es. And therefore God forbid that my D [...]sign should be other than that the Haughti­ness of the Proud in Spirit should be abased, and Babels Buildings overturned, &c. And when my [Page]Intentirns were first set on this ensuing Work, I had taken G. R's Books in equally with the rest, or else I should have been partial, as Caleb Pusey has been [ being blinded with Prejudice, as his Term is] in only faulting G. K's Books, but not his Opposers; but as I proceeded on, at length I found G. K. (according to the Example of good men in all Ages [...] has publickly acknowledged himself guilty of Errors in divers of [...]is former Books, and promised a Correction of the same; and now of late we have his Retractation come over in Print. And I would to God his Opposers had been as sensible of this great discovering Day, to have made the like Confes­sion, and so at once have laid the Controversie in the Dust, and thereby have stopt this from ever seeing the light, which would have been matter of joy to me, and all concerned in this Controversie, who have a true Zeal for God and his Truth. For as I have from my Youth been trained up in the Quakers Discipline, so it has been the goodness of God to me to incline my Mind to seek after him, and that with a Desire after Knowledge, lest my Zeal should only proceed from Ignorance.

And it still remaining in my Memory, That when I was scarce seven Years old, my Mother (being Religious) used to take me aside to pray to God with her upon my Knees; but soon after she turned to the Quakers; and then I heard no more of that kind of Exercise.

Yet at Twelve Years of Age the God of Heaven visited me, and made me sensible of Eternity, and I ho [...]d then a Vision of Christ coming down from Heaven, which was Wonderful, but I calling to my Mother to behold the Glory, the Vision vanished.

Again, at Twenty Years of Age I was afresh [...]urned to Religion, often weeping in secret places because of sin, till at length I was meditating on a place of Scripture, I was suddai [...]ly surrounded with Glory, and with Soul Ravishments of Love and Joy, in so sweet and ravishing a manner as no Pen can or ought to describe, or Tongue declare (with which I have also some time since been visited) And I being a Hearer and Follower of those Ministers of the Church of England who had the best Name among the People, did at last take a dislike of them by a story one of them told in his Sermon, which I telling to my Parents, they soon prevailed with me to go with them to their Friends Meetings, which I no sooner did, but their Ministry had such effect upon me, that I was constrained to believe, what they preached was Infallible, even as the Oracles of God; [...]till on a time at a Meeting where Giles Baruadiston and Sam. Cater preaching, I observed a Contradiction in their Doctrine. Which Clash, together with bitter Reflections that I saw between two Elders in the Mens Metting, not long after, gave the first stroke to my former Faith, of our [Page] [...]riends being led by the Ʋnerring Spirit, and put me [...]t upon pensive Thoughts concerning them; but I [...] these things to my self. At length, concluding [...]at all other Societies that I knew, had also their [...]lings, and being joyned, along with my Parents, [...] the Quakers, (and being trained up in thei [...] Dis­ [...]pline) Resolved to sit down content, and bear these [...]ings, so long as I could feel my heart in a mel [...]ng [...]sture at all Opportunities offered; but could not afterwards swallow down all Doctrines that I heard [...]m preach, without examination, as I found most [...]d (though my Ʋnderstanding was much darkened [...] their turning the S [...]iptures into Allegories yet [...] apt as others I was to take up a rest in the esta­blisht form set up amongst us, and I thought I was [...]appy and safe in thus keeping my self within the [...]a [...]e of the Church; and the rather because the [...]r [...]achers oft brought Scripture to shew, That such [...] were luke-warm in their Profession God [...]ould spew them out. But Experience hath [...]ce shewed me, That their Mis application of this [...]cripture has proved a stratagem of Satan only to [...]ive People into Form.

For the Consciences of my old Friends are my [...]cord this day, That many in their Church have [...]n ill Persons, who at the same time have not [...]ed heat of Zeal for the Form, and for Ʋnity [...] Friends; and so far my Experience agrees with [...]. Penn's Doctrine in his Address to Protestants, [...] 177. 'Tis not to be saved (says he) to be [Page]within the Pale of any visible Church— fo [...] that is putting an eternal Cheat upon our selves Ill Things are Ill Things within or without the Pale, that matters not. So I also find, Tha [...] Good Thing [...] are Good Things within or without the Pale, that matters not; for Scripture and Church History shews, That many t [...]mes single Persons have been in the right, when gathered Churches and Con­gregations have been wrong; Examples of this w [...] have in all Ages.

But passing on to the Year 1691. when Difference arose at Philadelphia between George Keith and others, from his being accused to preach Two Christs, because he preached Faith in Christ with­out us, as well as within, and I giving diligen [...] heed to the Points controverted, my Understanding and Intellect was quickly enlarged, and th [...] Thoughts of my former Vision of Christ descending from Heaven, attended me, and my Zeal and Faith in Christ was increased, and divers Scripture Mysteries were then opened to me, to my great Sa­tisfaction, which I never before could attain to. And I began to find a Call within me, To be active in the station and Capacity wherein God had put me. Wherefore I set a Resolution to Search and Try things for my self, and not to believe on trust, or because others did. Well, accordingly I searche [...] our Friends Books, to see if those various Reports were true or false; and having, by diligence, re­ceived Satisfaction therein, I could not find case in [Page]my brest without taking the Opportunity that God by [...] Providence affords me, thus to Expose and Pub­ [...] what here follows, believing that God Almighty [...]ll bless my Endeavours to those who are desirous to [...]for themselves, and to try all things, in regard I [...]ow my proceeding herein was by a Motion heavenly, [...]ove we Self-will, my self having fought against [...] Publication hereof near two Years, under divers [...]ntations, being not insensible what Suffering I [...]ay hereby outwardly incur; but a peaceful Con­ [...]ence I esteem above all.

Now an Objection falls in my way, which I [...]ave heard my Old Friends make, viz. That faith [...] Christ, as without us, is only a Notional [...]istorical Faith, the Professors Faith, which we [...]e taught when Children, and is no saving [...]aith.

I Answ. And in true Experience I affirm, That [...] the very same at this day of the Light within; [...]d I appeal to all their own Consciences, whether [...]re is not ma [...]ny now amongst them, that have the [...] Belief in this inward Manifestation of the [...]ight, and yet know not the Work of Regeneration?

And it was worthily observed of Calvin (as [...]ed in one of their own Books, entituled, Righ­ [...]ous Judgment, p. 128.) viz. That Calvin [...]lined to the Divinity of the Light in men [Page]universally, but a little shy of speaking more positively, for fear of abuse by Phanaticks, Behold! now this great Reformer had a perfect fence how men might run into Abuses, by high pre­tences to Light and Spirituality. And whether what that great Reformer feared in that Age, be not come to pass now in this Age, I leave to the judg­ment of the Impartial Reader of the ensuing Book

Lastly, We have account from England, That since G. Keith's arrival there, the Doctrine of Christ crucified, and faith in him, as without men, is now frequently preached by the Quakers, causing many to say, That if ever Christ was preached out of Envy, now is the time (as we read some did in the Apostles days) hence 'tis not impossible, but in time they may come to preach that Doctrine in true love, and so confess that George Keith has been the greatest Instrument in Gods hand, of good to the Quakers, that ever yet arose amongst them.

But by the Complaint that their Friend A. Hulins lately made to their Mens Meeting at Burlington, by a Paper given in under his hand, it appears, that the Preachers about Delaware are not yet come so far as to preach such Doctrine out of Envy, much less for love. For the satisfaction of some, I shall here an abstract of his give own words, as I have it by me under his hand, viz.

Friends and Brethren, It being my lot to be disowned the 3d of November last, by Samuell Jenings, Mahlen Stacy and George Grey, with whose leave I make my Address to this Mee­ting, shewing the cause, &c.

[One preached thus] It is the Work of the Devil to cause People, that have profest the Ap­pearance of Christ in the heart, to respect the Person without them. [Another preached thus] I am grieved that any, that have profest the Light, should now direct the Minds of People to respect him as he is now in Heaven above the Clouds: Truly (Friends) it is Delusion [Ano­ther preached thus] There is that would have Flesh added in the Creed, but let them take it that will, I believe the Lord will give them his Plagues and Torments with it.— If these things are owned by you, I remain

Your Disowned Brother, Abr. Hulings.

Now, who would think any other, but that this Quakers Church at Burlington should condemn [...]uch Doctrine as this? No, but this they did not do, [...]ut gave A. Hulings his Paper again, without any Answer. Why, if they had done otherwise they had not acted agreeable to their Brethren at Phila­delphia some time before. For there is one John Humphery, a Preacher near Philadelphia, that writes a Letter against G. K. and his Friends, wherein he has this Expression, I am grieved to [Page]hear some say they expect to be justified by that Blood that was shed at Jerusalem.’ In justification of which Passag [...], he writes in another Letter, thus, viz. His (Christ's) own words will clear me from your aspersion, John [...].63. It is the Spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth Nothing. So he himself ascribes the work of mans Salvation and Sanctification, Not to the Flesh that suffered, but to the Spirit that quickened, Not to the Blood that was shed at Jerusalem, but unto that Flesh and Blood which is Spiritual, &c.’ Of this false Doctrine G. K. complained to the Quarterly Meeting at Philadel­phia, but no Answer could be have, nor no blame nor condemnation must pass against their Brother J. Humphery for this false Doctrine; tho' its near six Years since these Letters were writ.

Well, Reader, This is a Taste of the Doctrine and Faith of our Delaware Quakers, though as I said before, we hear the contrary Doctrine is now preached in London; and thou mayst expect to find much more such like false Doctrine, Clashes and Contradictions in the ensuing Treatise. And I should have been glad if I could been easie without detecting the same; but I have now done it, and hope it may be the last I shall be concerned in: And whatever may be my lot for this, I am content, knowning my Intentions & proceeding herein to be honest and sincere. Amen.

D. L.

The Contents

  • THe Introduction, page 1.
  • Chap. 1. The Dis-harmony, Clashes and Contra­dictions of the Quak [...]s in both their antient and later Writings, p. 4.
  • Chap. 2. Of Opposition at Ʋnity, p. 46.
  • Chap. 3. A short Summary of Citations from the Quakers Books, shewing that they deny Jesus of Nazareth to be the Christ, p. 52.
  • Chap. 4. Of calling Names for Religion, p. 55.
  • Chap. 5. Of Prophecyes, p. 59.
  • Chap. 6. Of Infallible Discerning, p 61.
  • Chap. 7. Of the Scriptures, p. 68.
  • Chap. 8. Of Magistracy and Government, p. 77.
  • Chap. 9. Of Persecution and Prosecution, p. 1.
  • Chap. 10. Friends Sufferings to be recorded by London Meeting, p. 91.
  • Chap. 11. Of Swearing, p. 97.
  • Chap. 12. Of Fighting, Swearing and paying Tythes, p. 102.
  • Chap. 13. Of Miracles, p. 810
  • Chap. 14. Of Life and Doctrine, p. 113.
  • Chap. 15. Sabbath Day, Wheel turned round, p. 118.
  • [Page] An Appendix, p. 12
    • Of In allibility p. 12
    • O [...] Temporizin, p. 13
    • Concerning Papists, p. 13
  • A Postscript, by way of Question to the Leaders my Old Friends, p. 13
    • A Proposition to meet our Adversaries in a pu [...] ­lick Meeting, concerning the matters contai [...] ­ed in this Book, p. 14
  • A Copy of a Letter sent to the Author by a Perso [...] of Note, p. 14

INTODƲCTION.

EXperience shews, That the Quakers have always been exceeding Clamorous against those who have opposed any of their Doctrines especially in those books whose Authors [...]re dead. And yet notwithstanding no Christian [...]rofessors are more gu [...]lty than themselves, not only [...]f condemning Doctrines of Persons that are [...]ad [as divers of their Books testify] but also [...]uilty of Censu [...]ing Persons too after their de­ [...]ease, especially such as have been their opposers. [...]or this take one Example from W. Penn, viz.

Reason against Railing, p. 163. Tho. Hicks com­ [...]laining of E. Burroughs for giving ill Names to [...] Bentist, for asking Questions of the Quakers. [...] P. makes Thomas Hicks this Reply, viz. 'Tis sicked, with a witness, and like a most irreligious Miscreant indeed; God is my Record this day, I [...]ould not to inherit more Worlds than there are Stars [...] the Firmament, have so violated the Laws of [...]harity against the most violent of our deceased Op­ [...]sers, Ʋngodly Traducer, whose Envy, no doubt, [...] fire enough in it to burn this good mans bones, [...]. Note, at what a rate he goes on [consider­ [...]g the cause] more like a Domineering Ranter [...]en a meek and humble Quaker, seeing himself, [Page 2]is really guilty of Censuring and inveighing at J. Perrot, one of there deceased Opposers, as may be seen in his Book, call'd Judas and the Jews; And yet I know not that he got so much by so doing as to pay one Debt, and much less so many Worlds as there are Stars in the Firma­ment; but having not the Book at hard, to cite particulars, I'll set down what John Taylor and Jo. Field [Brethren of W. P.] say of the said Perrot after his decease, p. 9. of their Loving In­vitation, viz. J. Perrot (say they) became a Troubler and Opposer, and lost the Ʋnity of Friends in general, and so was cut off from the Vine Christ, and dyed miserably [being in debt, as they say.] See now here they censure one of there deceased Opposers to Damnation. Behold the self-condemnation of these men! & their want of charity to the deceas­ed! Where has any of their Opposers been so Ʋn­charitable to any of them, after death especially?

But my present business is not at all about the Dead, neither about Men, nor Things that are Dead, but against confused Doctrines now living, viz. owned patronized and justified by men now living [as witness the late general account give [...] in the City Merurcy or News Book, by the 24 Quakers at London.] And W. Bayly, p. 568. op­posing some Doctrine of a Quaker who was dead says, As for that which is dead, I have little to say one way or other; I look not [sayes he] at th [...] Person of any Living or Dead in that respect, but [...] [Page 3]is that that lives that makes the difference. And just as W Bayly sayes, so it is; For those citations following are the Doctrines of those now living, tho' some of the first Authors be dead. And my care has been to cite the Passages so large as to deliver the plain and full sense and meaning of their Authors to all intelligent Readers, as they will find who please to examine and compare the same impartially. But if through my dis­tance from the Press some Errors or Escapes should pass Uncorrected, I desire the candid Readers excuse or pardon, seeing none are de­signed.

Lastly. Whereas some Preachers of late [to [...] se such confused Doctrines as follow] tell the P [...]ple, That [...] 'tis easie to find seeming Contra­lictions in the Scriptures; And why then may it not be so in our Friends Books? To which I say, they themselves in their Books give the reason why [...]is so with the Scriptures; which reason cannot hold as to their Books; for W. Penn takes up several pages in his Rejoynder, to shew to J. Faldo the. Uncertainty of the Scriptures, bringing Reasons to Prove them not the same as given forth, but altered and corruptud; so Jo [...]n Whitehead, to the same effect in Refuge fixed: also G. Whitehead in divers Books, and S. Fisher at large in Rustions, &c. all which shall be shewed hereafter. Now this cannot be alledged of their Books, because we have the first Impression of [Page 4]them, and therefore they canaot be altered of corrupted. So that this is too short a cover for this Mystry of Confusion, which I desire all sober Readers well to Note.

Having thus premised, shall now proceed to note some of the Contradictions and Clashes of the Quakers, as I find them set down in their antient and latter Writings: with some Ob­servations on the fame.

CHAP. I. The Dis-harmony, Clashes and Contradiction of the Quakers in both their antient and latter Writings.

Numb. I.

SAndy Foundat. p. 13. W. P. saith, Since the Father is God, and the Son is God, & the Spirit is God, then unless the Fa­ther, Son and holy Ghost are 3 disti [...]ct Nothings, they must be three distinct Substances & consequent­ly three distinct Gods.

Qrs. Plainness, p. 23. G. W. saith, That the Distinction of the Father and Son are not only No­minal but Real.

Note, here if G. W [...] Real distinction do not make the Father & Son distinct Substances. But W. Penn tells him they are distinct nothings. Re­concile these who can.

Numb. III.

Qrs. plainness, p. 19. G. W. there declares, that they cannot deviate from Scripture Phrase in their Creed; For un­till you bring us plain Scripture (saith he) that saith, the humane Nature is the Christ [which phrase is conscientiously scru­pled] we must rather pa­tiently bear your censure, than deviate from Scrip­ture Language in our Creed.

But in p. 18. G. W. sayes, Have we not plain­ly and often confest, that the divine Nature or word cloathed with the most holy Manhood, was and is the Christ? Note, [cloathed with the most holy Manhood] is not Scripture Language or phrase; so that here he deviates from Scripture Language in his Creed, in the very next page. Pray what is this but Hypocrisie?

Numb. IV.

Sandy Founda. p. 22. W. Penn saith, Since Christ could not pay what was not his own [Debt] it follows, that in the payment of his own, the case still remains equally grievous, since the debt is not hereby absolved or forg­men, [...]r transfered only.

Divi. of Christ Ans. to T. D. p. 16. How false and Blasphemous (says G. W.) this charge is against Christ, I appeal to all sober Professors of Chri­stianity, viz. That when God required Satisfact­ion of Christ, it was due from Christ.

Now observe, That as before W. P. Renders Geo. Whitehead's Doctrine Ridiculous & Shame­full, so here G. W. renders W. Penns Doctrine basphemous for holding, that Christ had a Debt of his own to satisfy to God, as W. P. more laregly affirms, p. 22. of his Sandy Foundat. Therefore as G W. in his Quakers plainness, p 20 says, Pray you Baptists agree upon a consistent Creed that you intend to stand by, so now the Bap [...]sts may say, Pray yon Quakers agree upon a consistent Creed that you intend to stand by; &c.

Again, I cannot but observe, that though G. Whetchead (as before) pretends, that they concientiously scruple to deviate from Scripture, Language or phrase, yet I have not met with one Book of controversie that G. W. has written, but he himself diviates from Scripture phrase herein.

Likewise in Divinity of Christ by G. W. and G. Fox, they begin in the Epistle with Com­manding and charging Professors to bring express Scripture for their Doctrine, saying, whether do the Scriptures speak of three Persons in the Godhead, in these express words? Let us see where it is written; Com [...], do not shuffle, for we are resolved the Scrip­ture shall buffet you about. And where doth the Scripture speak of a Humane Nature of Christ in Heaven? And where doth the Scripture say, the Soul is part of mans Nature? Give us plain Scripture, without adding or diminishing. Come let us see Chap­ter and verse, &c.

Now may not the Professors say, Come G. W. Come Quakers, where doth the Scripture say, the Distinction of Father and Son is not only Nominal, but Real, in these express words? Let us see where it is written: Come, do not shuffle. And where doth the Scripture speak or say, the divine Nature cloathed with the most holy Manhood, was and is the Christ? And where doth the Scrip-say (these words) The Light within every man? Give us plain express Scripture for this your first and grand Principle of all, without adding or diminishing. Come let us see Chapter and Verse, seeing you pretend you cannot deviate from Scripture phrase in your Creed.

Besides, if G. W. does not hereby mean deceit and hypocrisie, for what end does he pretend they cannot own this or that in their Creed, if it be [Page 8]expressed in plain Scripture, seeing they so often and plainly testify that the Scripture is not their Rule but the light within is their rule in Faith, But for Professors to call for Scripture is but according to their principles, because they own it for their rule.

Numb. V.

Sandy Founda. p. 15. W. P. saith, In the full­ness of time [God] sent his Son, who so many hun­dred years since in PER­SON testified the vir­tue, &c.

Quakers. plainness p. 24. G. W. saith, The Title PERSON is toc low and unscriptural to give to the Christ of God.

Numb. VI.

E. Burroughs p. 142. J. Bunjon said, How are they deceived who own Christ no otherwayes then as he was before the world began! E. B. Replys, Here thou hast discovered thy self more plainly: Did not the Saints own Christ Jesus, the same yesterday, to day and forever, for Salvation.

Quakers vindication p. 16. by G. Bishop, We distinguish between Christ which was before the Foun­dation of the World, and his being within, the true Light, & the Body which he took of the Virgin, &c.

Note, here G. B. owns Christ otherwayes [For Salvation] than as he was before the world began, for he makes 3 distinctions of Christ▪

Numb. VII.

R. Huber thorns works, p. 20. Preist says, Christ himself was not capable [...]f Faith and Repentance. [...]. H. Replys, Here I [...]harge thee to be a Lyar [...]nd a Slanderer; for he [...]as capable of Faith and [...]epentance.

Divinity of Christ. Ans. to T. D. p. 22. Christ he never did not could sin (says G. Whitehead)

Note, does not G. W. here hold Christ not ca­pable of sin? And how then was he capable of Repentance.

Numb. VIII.

Quakers Challenge, by Solomon Ecclis, George [...]og, whose Name (says [...]e) thou art net worthy [...] take in thy Mouth, who [...] a Prophet indeed: It [...]as said of Christ, that [...] was in the World, [...]nd the World was made [...]y him, and the World [...]ew him not; so it may [...] said of this true Pro­ [...]et, whom John said, he [...]as not: But thou wilt [...]ul this Prophet one day [...] heavy as a Milstone [...]pon thee &c. G. W. [...]cuses this in his seri­ [...]s search, p. 58.

Book call'd Ishmael, &c. p. 9. by G. W. One said, It is all one to say the Scripture saith, and God saith. G. W. Replys, Thou Blasphemous Beast, dost thou make no differ­ence between the Scripture and God! Here let all that reads this, see thy Blasphemy.

Note, upon what oc­casions they revile o­thers for Blasphemy, But G. W. excuses that real Blasphemy in his Brother S. E. and only sayes 'Tis a little fai­lure in syntax.

But let G. Whitehead tell me, If a man should affirm it is all one to say, His Book Ishmael saith and the Spirit of God saith, Whether this would be blasphemy? since he asserts in the Title page▪ That it was given forth from the Spirit of the Lord Pray Reader take good Notice of this, for he can no ways answer it without baffling himself

Numb. IX.

G. F's Great Mystr. p. 264, 264, 283. Priest sayes, A man by his own power cannot get into Re­generation, for they are d [...]ad in sins and Tres­passes. G. F. Replys, Some are sanctified from the Womb, and some Chil­dren are holy; so all are not dead in sins and tres­passes; and some Children were born of Believers. And p. 355. Believers are the holy: so the Be­lievers Children, A new Creation, a holy Genera­tion.

Divin. of Christ, An [...] to T. D. p. 20 G. W. says, Condemnation oam [...] upon all men — Death past upon all men; for that all have sinned. p 24 Again, Christ dyed for all so all were dead in Sins and Trespasses, &c.

Note. is not here a little failure in syntax too? else how is it that G. W. contradicts G. F. a Prophet indeed! But pray take a view and se [...] if the Children of be­lievers in the Light are not Children of Wrath too as well as others; or let us know by what Marks we shall distinguish their Children to be a holy Generation.

Numb. X.

Jos. Coal Ans. to Jo­ [...]w-man, p. 332. If by [...] Body of Flesh which [...]rist had, he means his [...]urch, then I am one [...]h him; for his having [...]at Body after his Ascen­ [...], I never denyed, nor [...]nd to do—and such a [...]ay we own Christ had [...]ur his ascention. Again [...]. P Rejoynder, p. 312. [...] true Church is become [...]rists Body. Again, in [...]uge fixt, p 90, 41. [...]rist hath a Body, or is a Body snitable to his [...] it, consisting of h [...] [...]uly flesh and Bone. [...]ain, he saith, Whereso­ [...]r the Spirit of Christ [...] that is in the Body of [...]rist.

I. Pennington, Quest. p. 20. For that which [Christ] took upon him, was our Garment, even the flesh and blood of our Na­ture, which is of an earthly perishing Nature, but he is of an Eternal Nature.

Mark, Tho' nothing be of an Eternal Nature but God, yet here one holds Christs Body of Flesh and Bones to be such, whilst the other holds, the Church to be his Body. But pray, had the Church no be­ginning? Can that be Eternal? But this, and the rest in these Passages let who can explain and reconcile them, for it passes my skill to do it.

Numb. XI.

Saul's Errand, by G.F. p. 14. Christ is the sub­stance of all Figures, and HIS FLESH is a Fi­gure.

But I. Pennington, [...] above, holds his Flesh [...] be of an Eternal Nature

Note the Contradiction and false Doctrine o [...] both these, or (if G W. please) a FAILUR [...] in Syntax.

Numb. XII.

Chr. Quaker, p. 97 by W. P. Now nothing can bruise the head of the Ser­pent but something that is also internal, as the Serpent is; but if the Body of Christ were the Seed, then could be not bruise the Serpents head in all, be­cause the Body of Christ is not so much as in any one, and consequently the Seed of the Promise is an holy and spiritual Principle of Light, Life & Power, that being receiv'd into the heart, bruiseth the Serpents head; & because the seed (which cannot be that Bo­dy) is Christ.

Foundat. of Tythes, p 238, 240. by T. Ellwoo [...] Nor do the Quakers [...] scribe Salvation to the fo [...] ­lowing the Light with [...] but to Christ Jesus, [...] whom the Light leads — If any one expects Remis­sion of sins by any other w [...] than by the death of Chri [...] renders the death of Chri [...] useless.

Note the confuse Clash of these 2 Cham­pions, W. Penn is for al [...] the work to be done by the Light within. T. [...] denyes it to be done by the Light within, no [...] not so much as Remiss [...] ­on of sins.

Numb XIII.

G. F's Catechism, p 69. [...] Light (within) which [...]y hate, is their condem­ [...]tion, which is the Sal­ [...]tion of all that believe [...]it.

T. E. as above, No [...] do the Quakers as [...]ribe Salvation to the following the Light within, &c.

Come, let's see if T. Ellwood with all his So­ [...]istry and false glosses can reconcile these two [...]rtions.

Numb. XIV.

Ed. Burroughs, p. 285. Bunion said (These [...]is. believe that Salva­ [...] was not compleatly [...]ought out for sinners by [...] Man Christ Jesu [...] [...] B. answers, Here tho [...] ­ [...]ta Lyar.

W. P. Reas. agt. Rail. p. 16. saith, The Light, which in all ages was the j [...]st mans path, is, ever was, & ever will be s [...]ffi­cient and saving. Thus also J. Co [...], l. 329. That Christ is not a Saviour as Man, but as God.

Let W. Penn reconcile these, if he can, and tell [...]how the Light is the Man

Numb. XV.

Ed. Burroughs, p. 283 [...] Bunion said, The QIS. [...]swade Souls, That that [...]an that was born of the [...]ing be Mary, is not above [...] stars. E. B. answers, [...]his is another Lye.

Sword of the Lord dr. p. 5. Your imagined God beyond the stars is utterly denyed & restified against by the Light.

Pray compare these. Also Note Sa. Jennings [Page 14] dissent from his Brethrens Religion [unless [...] dissembles] in scrupling to say, Thou art a Lyar [...] p. 34. state of the case:

Numb. XV.

Chr. Quaker by G. W. p. 2 [...]2 The man's mista­ken [...] he suppos [...] that we plead for the Righteous [...] ­ness of a Creature, [ i e Christ as Man] or mans own Righteous [...]ss, which he himself is enabled to perform, as the cause o [...] our Justification, &c.

W. P 's Serious Apology p. 148. Death came [...] act [...]al, not imputation therefore Justification un [...] o [...] L [...]i [...]e came by act [...] Righteousness, not imp [...] ­tative.

Note, Whether is th [...] Error of both these, or [...] Contradiction greater.

Numb. XVII.

G. F 's Great Mystry, p. 248. There is no man felt denyed and justified in the sight of God, but by Christ alone.

Note, Does not G. [...] above oppose G F. her [...] who holds Justificatio [...] by the Man Christ, u [...] ­less it be proper to sa [...] God in the sight of Go [...] justifies man.

Numb. XVIII.

W. P 's Rejoynder, p. [...]87, No present work, how good soever, can ju­ [...]fie any man from the Condemnation which is due for the guilt of sin, that is past.

Sandy Fonndat. p 16 [...] Gods Remission is groun [...] ­ed on our Repentance ( [...] as above) Justification by actual Righteousness.

Note, A Self-Contra [...] ­diction, unless Repent­ance & actual Righteousness be no present wor [...]

Numb. XIX.

W. P 's Rejoynder, p. [...], That Body did not [...]litute Christ, he is in­ [...]sible, and ever was to [...]igodly World.

Guide to the blind, p. 49. Christs first appear­ance to the world was in the flesh, and the fleshly eye saw HIM.

Just so the Priests, as Fisher says,
Believe it one of these two ways;
Sometimes one way then another,
Sometimes both ways, this and t'otaer.

See S. Fishers Works, p. 748.

Numb. XX.

G. W 's Light & Life, [...]3, As to Christ being every man, that's not [...] affirmation nor words, [...] that there is a Light [...] Christ in every man.

W. Smith 's Catechism, p 57, That of God in us is the only Foundation, it is Christ, and being Christ it must needs be only, and admits not of another.

Numb. XXI.

G. F 's Catechism, p 2, [...]e Light that shews to [...]ry man his evil Deeds, Christ.

W. P 's Chr. Quaker, p 91, We do not say that the Light in every man is Christ, but of Christ.

Numb. XXII.

G. F 's Great Mystry, [...] 185, The Devil teach­ [...] them, in whom he sows [Page 16]his Seed, not to have the Light within them, the Seed Christ, The Root of God.

Note, Who must we believe, G. Fox, or G. W. & W. P. as above? for [Page 16]here G. F. holds the Light within to be not only Christ, but ever The ROOT of God.

Numb. XXIII.

G. F 's Gr. Mystry, p. 249, Priest says, There is not whole Christ, God and Man, in men. G. F. answers, Then how must men grow up in the mea­sure of the fullness of the stature of Christ? And Christ and God will dwell in man, and walk in man. And p 185, as above, he calls the Light within The Root of God.

W. P 's Rejoynder, p 25, We never said the Light within every man was the only Lord & Saviour, and very God, &c.

Note, But does not G. F. grant whole Christ God and Man, to be in man? And is not this whole Christ the only Lord & Saviour? Also, is not the Root of God very God? Let W. P. reconcile it if he can.

Numb. XXIV.

G. F 's Great Mystry, p 324, Priest says, The Seed to whom the Promise of Salvation is made, is or hath been sinners. G. F. answers, The Promise of God is to the Seed, which hath been laden as a car [...] with sheaves by the sinner, [Page 17]which Seed is the Hope Christ that purifies—and the Seed Christ never sin­ [...]d— This Promise is not unto Seeds, as many, [...]nt to one, the Seed which [...] Christ.

Arr [...]ignment of Popery by G. F. The Prophets shewed, that all Nations are blessed in the Seed of Abraham, and so the Seed of Abraham to be the Sa­viour of the World.

Note these well, and read them once & again, [Page 17]and if it be really so, that the Seed Christ is both the Saviour & the saved, then 'ti [...] no self-Contradiction; that is, that the Seed only saves the same Seed; for he says, 'tis all but one Seed, which is Christ.

Numb. XXV.

Josiah Coal, p. 329, [...]aith, Tho' J. Newman [...]ldly and blasphemously [...]ffirmeth, That he was [...]ot a Saviour, as he was God, but as he was Man, [...]et it is easie to prove the [...]ontrary.

But G. F. before calls the Seed of Abraham the Saviour of the World. Now is not here a Contradiction? unless Christ, as Man, be not the Seed of Abraham.

Numb. XXVI.

G. W 's Div. of Christ [...]pist. by G. F. says, Thou (Priest) sayst, The Soul is part of mans Na­ [...]ure: Where doth the Scripture, thy Rule, say [...]o? The Scripture saith, God breathed into man the [...]eath of Life, and man [...]came a living Soul— [Page 18]And is not this of God, of his Beeing? And is not this that comes out from God, part of God, and from God? This last part W. P. cites in Reas. against Railing, p 66. and defends and justifies and denys it.

Rejoynder, pag 375, W. P. cites H. More, to prove the Soul to be the Man, saying, That the Soul of every man is his individual Person, and the Body but a Garment.

Note The Contradi­ction; for here the Soul [Page 18]is so great a part o [...] mans Nature, that it i [...] Man himself. Note also Ranters say, the Soul is [...] part of God, and return again to God, and God will not punish himself Therefore to talk o [...] going to Hell is an idle story,

Numb. XXVII.

G. F's Great Mystry, p 273, Priest says, It is horrid Blasphemy to say, the Soul is a part of God. G F. replyes, 'Tis rot horrid Blasphemy to say, the Soul is a part of God, for it came out from him, and tha which came out from him is of him.

Note, That both W. P. and G. W. do a [...] once, by their fallaciou [...] Equivocations, both ju­stifie this Doctrine o [...] the Soul being part of God, and also confident­ly deny that G. F. holds any such thing; for which see Reason against Railing, p. 65. & Qrs. plainness, p. 57.

Numb. XXVIII.

G. F 's Great Mystry, p. 205. & p. 63. The Saints came to see the end of Sabbaths▪ and New Moons, and witnessed the [Page 19]Body, Christ, before the [...]ay was made— for the Body is the Light of the World, the Body is the life given for the life of [...]he World, in whom there [...]rest—Christ gave him [...]elt, his Body, for the life [...] the world; he was the Offering for sin.

W. P's serious Apology, p. 146. But that the out­ward Person that suffered was properly the Son of God, we utterly deny— [Page 19] A Body has thou prepa­red me, said the Son; so the Son was not the Body, though the Body was the Sons.

Let W. P. reconcile these, and also tell us who is the Father of that outward Person.

Numb. XXIX.

W. P. Reas. agt. Rail. [...]ag. 91. Forgive us our [...]ebts as we forgive our [...]btors, w [...]re (saith he) [...]thing can be more ob­ [...]ous, than that which is [...]rgiven, is not paid; [...]nd if it is our Duty to [...]rgive without a Satis­ [...]action reccived, and that God is to forgive us, as [...]e forgive them, then is a [...]atisfaction Totally Ex­ [...]ded.

Rejoynder, pag. 284, W. P cites [...] defends We believe that Christ in us doth offer up himself a living Sacrifice to God for us, by which the wrath of God is appeased to us.

Note, A self-contra­diction, for in the one he totally excludes a sa­tisfaction, and in the other he grants it.

Note also, how many [...]housand Offerings this new Scripture makes of [...]hrist; as many Saints, so many times Christ [...]ffers up himself a Sacrifice▪

Numb XXX.

Great Mistry, p. 63. Christ gav [...]imself, his Bo­dy [...]or the Life of the world, he was the Offering for the sins of the whole World, and paid the Debt, and made satisfaction.

Note, In contradic­tion to W. P's Contra­diction, G. F. here holds Satisfaction was made for sin, by the Body being offer­ed. Is not this like Sampsons Foxes, tho [...] ­tyed by the [...]all, thei [...] faces look contrary?

Numb. XXXI.

G. W' s Div. of Christ, the Epist. by G. F. Where (saith he) doth the Scripture speak of a hu­mane Nature of Christ in Heaven? Is not Christ and his Body glorified, & he the Lord from Hea­ven?

G W's a [...]swer to W [...] Harw [...]rth, p. 13. H [...] Reasons to prove Christ now a Man in Heaven, do not (saith G. W.) reach nor touch us, the thing not being denyed, but really believed & confessed unto by us.

Numb. XXXII.

W. Shewins Treatise of Thoughts, p. 35. Not to Jesus, the Son of David & Mary, Saint or An­gel, but to God the Father all VVorship, Honour and Glory is to be given, tho­rough Jesus Christ.

Chr. Doctrine, &c. by G. W. and others, That divin Honour and Wor­ship is due to the Son of God; and that he is, in true Faith to be prayed unto, & the Name of the Lord Jesus to be called upon, as the primitive Christians did.

Note, Tho' they clash, yet we see here they [...]ave dropt some Christian Expressions more of [...]ate then formerly; And what may we think they [...]tend thereby? why G. Whitehead in his Coun­ [...]feit Convert, p. 72. says, I May see cause other­ [...]ise to word the matter, and yet our intentions be [...]he same. Now is it not admirable that a man of [...]. W's Cloath [as the proverb is] should be [...]rown so bold in crafty a [...]d deceivible Glosses, [...] deceive his Readers? Is this like the antient [...]mplicity of a Quaker, to say, I may see cause [...]therways to word the matter, and yet in­ [...]nd the same? Pray who knows when such a [...]an i [...] sincere, or how to believe him in what he [...]ys, that thus hides his meanings, sa [...]s one thing, [...]nd means another? Does not G. W. hereby [...]ender himself like those Deceivers with false [...]oney, who counterfeit the Kings Coyn, upon [...]eprobate Silver, to make it pass current? But [...]hatever they intend or mean in their newest Creed or Confession of Faith, in answer to [...]. Lancasters Querys, given at London, 1695. [...]y G. W. and six others, and also in some other [...] their Books, that at times [of late years specially] has been extorted or streined from [...]em, yet I think fit here following to compare [...] with their former Doctrine, and leave it to [...] reconciled by those who are cunning enough [...] to word the matter, seeing that in their said [Page 22]Answer to Dr. Lancaster, they refer to their former Books for Answers to his Querys.

Numb. XXXIII.

Answ. to Dr. Lanca­ster, by G. W. and six other, VVe sincerely be­lieve in Jesus Christ, both as he is true God and per­fect Man, our Immanuel and Mediator; and as in the fullness of Time he was conceived by the holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, and was crucified and put to Death, was buried, rose again, and visibly ascended into Hea­ven— And that this same Jesus Christ that wa [...] cru­cified, shall so in like man­ner come▪ as he was seen to go into Heaven) at the last and great Day of Judgment.

G. W's Truth defend. p. 65. Chr. VVade affirm­ed, That our blessed Sa­viour doth instruct men to lay fast hold of, and to a­bide in such a faith which confideth in himself, being without Men. G. W. answers, That's contrary to the Apostles Doctrine, &c.

Note, But now G. W. is one with C. W's Do­ctrine, which he then said was contrary to the Apostles; for now he professes faith in Christ as born of the Virgin, crucified and visibly as­cended, unless he says, This was not without men, and so deceives his Rea­ders by thus Otherwise wording the matter.

Numb. XXXIV

G. W's answ. to W [...]arworth, p. 23. Christ [...] rise in that Body [...]rein he suffered, and in [...] same ascended into the [...]avens—and it is so [...] circumscribed in the [...]avens as 'tis capable of [...]d as is proper to it; and [...] it be spiritual and [...]rious, yet a Body, and [...]erefore not in every place [...]here God is. Again, in [...]is Book, call'd, Judg­ment fixt, he says, Thou [...]at canst not see consist; [...]y of Salvation by the [...]an Christ, and by his [...]ight within, art gone [...]om his Light into Ima­ [...]nations.

G. W's Truth defend. p. 23, T. Smith asks, VVhen you tell us you have faith in Christ, do you mean Christ whose Person is now ascended in­to Heaven, or do you mean only a Christ within you? G. W. answers, Here thou would make two Christs—But how provest thou two such Christs?

Note here, That G. W. now in his answer to VV. Harworth opposing himself, makes two such Christs as T. Smith doth, viz. not only Christ with­in, but a Christ whose Person or body is ascend­ed into Heaven.

Numb. XXXV.

G. W's answ. to VV. Harworth, That very Bo­dy of Christ which was [...]aised from the dead, how [...]ould it but be in being, [...]ing he dyed not again. [Page 24] Pag. 7. The same Body that was put to death, was raised—VVe confess the same Man Christ, not only still in being, but also glo­rified—This Man Christ did neither vanish nor pe­rish, either as to his Spirit, Soul or Body.

G. W's Nature of Chri­stianity, p. 29. Christ has not the Body of Man. And p. 41. he denys Christs bodily existence without us.

Note, If G. W. can so word the matter, as truly to reconcile him­self with himself in these two Books, we shall then have some ground to be­lieve he has not sinned since the year 1659. when he told us That his sins were pardoned, see Truth defend. p. 8.

Numb. XXXVI.

VV. Smith's Primmer, p. 8. They that are false Ministers preach Christ without, and bid People believe in him as he is in Heaven above.

Note here, Does not G. W. (as above in Nu, 34, 35,) preach a belief in Christ as he ascended into Heaven above? Therefore a false Mini­ster by VV, Smith's Do­ctrine.

Numb. 37,

Christian Doctrine, by G. W. &c. p. 5. That Christs Body that was crucified, was not the God­head, yet by the Power of God was raised from the dead; and that the same Christ that was Therein [Page 25]crucified, ascended into Heaven. And in answ. [...] Dr. Lancaster he de­ [...]ares, That both Soul & Body was sacrificed.

G. W's answ. to VV. Harworth, His dying was only as to the Body, he was put to death as concerning the flesh.

Note, A self contra­diction: in one Book, he says, None but the Bo­dy [Page 25]dyed; yet in the other he says, A Christ was crucified in that Body; in the third, yea, both Soul and Body was sacrificed.

Numb. 38.

W. P's Apology, p. 146. [...]ut that the outward Per­ [...]n that suffered was pro­ [...]rly the Son of God, we [...]terly deny; A Body [...]st thou prepared me, [...]id the Son; so the Son [...]as not the Body, tho' the Body was the Sons. [But [...]he same Christ that was [...]erein crucified, ascended [...]to Heaven, as above] [...]nd says W. P. We deny [...]hat Person that dyed at [...]erusalem to be our Re­ [...]eemer.

Ans. to Dr. Lancaster by G. W. and others, where they own him to be Christ that visibly as­cended, & was outwardly put to Death, and that he was true God and perfect Man, and our Redeemer that was thus visible

Note, Though G W. sees cause now to word the matter thus, yet he gives us Notice, (as a­bove) that his faith is still the same as former­ly.

Numb. 39.

Divin of Christ, p 83. by G. W. While we were sinners, Christ dyed for us, [...] was Christ that dyed.

Refuge fixed, p. 38. by Joh. Whitehead, No­thing that was mortal was called Christ.

Observe the sum of the last three particulars, (as they have seen cause to word them) G. W. holds, Nothing but the Body dyed, & that it was Christ that [...], so that the Body that dyed was Christ [...] holds, That the Body was not Ch [...], no [...] that the Person that dyed was Christ.

Ag [...] G. W. holds, that a Christ dyed in that Body [...] W. holds, that nothing that dyed was Christ [...] So that VV. Penn in his [...] at the Priests so [...] And S. Fisher mocks at them for [...] SO, NO.. But the Priests may now [...] at the Quakers for their [...] and mock at them for their NO, SO

Therefore [...] the ingenious Figure of NO, SO, with some [...] that Sam Fisher inserts in pag. 773 of [...], which are now perti­nently, truly and [...]cly to be turned back again upon these Quakers, viz.

Sometimes its this, sometimes its that,
Sometimes its this and this and that,
Sometimes its either this or that;
Sometimes its neither this nor that;
One while it looks like SO, not NO,
Another while like NO, not SO;
[Page 27]
One way it seems or SO or NO,
Another way nor NO nor SO;
Some ways it shews both SO and NO,
So 'tis a meer Endless NO and SO.
[figure]

You have observed before the Clashes, Contra­dictions, Sayings, Gainsayings & false Doctrines of these men, one contradicting the other, and many times the same man contradicting himself. [...]o pray observe once more how G. Whitehead [...]ances the Rounds (as S. Fisher says in his Appen­dix to J. Owen) For in his Introduction to Divi­ [...]ity of Christ, he defines a Person to be a Man, and a Man to be a Person. And in Qrs. plainness, p. 19. confesses Jesus Christ to be a Man, but not a Person, p. 23, 24. Again, That Jesus Christ is a Man, whose glorious Body in Heaven is not a humane (or mans) Body; & yet (as in Numb. 35.) declares it to be the same Body that dyed, and yet denys Christ to have the Body of Man. Thus as S. Fisher says, p. 773.

Now it is One thing, then Another,
And now and then nor t'one nor t'other.

Numb. 40.

G F's Great Myst. p. [...]06, 131, 250, If Christ that's crucified be not within, & that Christ that's risen be not within, I say, you are all Reproba [...]es —The Apostles preached Christ that [...]s crucified within, and not another, for the other is the Anti­christ — And thou sayst thou art saved by Christ without thee, and so hast recorded thy self a Repro­bate— At be in the fancy that be out of the state of witnessing Christ that suffered within them, and rose again.

Answ. to Dr. Lan­caster, They own Christ that was crucified without the Gates, did visibly as­cend into Heaven ( and answ to W Harworth) is in Heaven in a Body of Flesh circumscribed, and not in every place where God is.

No [...]e, While they ju­stifie their old Doctrine, and the new not being free, but streined out, we must take it as G. W. tells F. B. That they may intend the same, only now see cause Otherwise to word it.

Numb. 41.

G W's Light & Life of Christ, p. 58. he there defends this Passage, viz. The Blood that was forced out of him (Christ) by the Souldier, after he was dead, was no more than the Blood of another Saint.

Ans. to Dr. Lancaster, The whole sacrifice of Christ, whereof his Blood outwardly shed, was a part, was of great price with God, for mans Re­demption.

Note the Contradic­tion or the Craft.

Numb. 42.

I bid. Light and Life, p 38. The Quakers see [...]o need of directing men [...]o the Type for the Anti-Type, viz. neither to the outward Temple, nor to Jerusalem, either to Jesus Christ or his Blood, know­ing that neither the Righ­tousness of Faith, nor the Word of it doth so direct: And where do the Scrip­tures say, the Blood was there shed for Justifica­tion, and that men must [...]e directed to Jerusalem to it?

Ans. to Dr. Lancaster▪ We sincerely believe in Jesus Christ a [...] born of the Virgin Mary — Christs Blood that was shed without the Gates of Jerusalem, with the whole Sacrifice of himself, both Soul & Body, was a true Propitiation — through Faith, &c.

Note here, G. W. (still opposing his Old Doctrine) row sees cause to woro the mat­ter Otherways.

Numb. 43.

J. W 's Refuge fixt, p. 90 I have several times (saith he) denyed that Christ hath now a Body of Flesh and Bones, circu [...]n­script or limitted in that Heaven which is cut of every man on Earth.

Let these 2. Brother Whiteheads reconcile their Doctrine.

Ans. to W Harworth, (as above at Numb. 34, 35 G. W. declares, the same Body of Christ which was put to death ascended into Heaven, and is still in being; & though made spiritual, yet a circumscribed Bo­dy, not in every place where God is.

Numb. 44.

G. W's Light & Life, p. 39, 47. As for those Expressions (saith he) God-Man being born of Mary, we do not find them in the Scriptures, nor do we read that Mary was the Mother of God, but in the Popes Canons, &c. —What Non-sence and Ʋnscriptural Language is this to tell of God being co-Creator with the Fa­ther? or that God had Glory with God? doth not this imply two Gods, or that God had a Father?

Ans. to Dr. Lancaster, as above, We believe in Jesus Christ, both as he is true God and perfect Man—and as he was conceived by the holy ghost born of the Virgin Mary.

Note here, G. W. in contradiction to him­self, owns Mary to be the Mother of God-Man, and God to be his Father. And if he im­plys two Gods thereby, I cannot help it, seeing he now sees cause so to word the matter.

Numb. 45.

G. W 's Qrs. plainness, p 19 That Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, That he is God-man, &c.

Note, how inconsist­ent G. W. is with him­self; he Quarrels with the word God-man be­fore, but here he uses it.

Numb. 46.

G. F's Great Mystry, p 289, God was in Christ, and they are one, the Crea­tor; [Page 31]the Father in the Son and the Son in the Father, and Christ in you, and God in Christ, the Crea­tor. And in Qrs. plain­ [...]ss, p. 24. G. W there says, The Son is co-worker with the Father.

Light and Life, (as before) what Non-sense is this (says G. W.) to [Page 31]tell of God being co-Crea­tor with the Father?

Note, Does not G. W. here accuse both G. F. and himself also, with Non-sense? for what's the difference between Co-worker and Co-Creator?

Numb. 47.

Paper against J. [...]. London 6 m. 1670. And [...] also testifie, That i [...] [...]y Person whatsoever all act or speak any thing [...]at is evil, under pre­ [...]nce of a motion from the [...]pirit of God, we utterly [...]ny that Motion to be of God.

G F's Great Mystry p. 77. And as for any being moved of the Lord to take your (i. e. Priests) Hour­glass from you, by the eter­nal Power, it is owned.

Note, here the Fa­ther, G. Fox, Justifies what is Fellony by the Law; But his London Children are so bold as to controul him.

Numb. 48.

If. Pennington' [...] Que. [...] 33, Now the Scriptures [...] expresly distinguish be­ [...]een Christ & the Gar­ [...]nt which he wore, be­ [...]een him that came, and [Page 32]the body in which he came, between the Substance which was vailed, and the Vail which vailed it; there was plainly HE and the Body in which HE came; this we certainly know, and can never call the Bodily Garment Christ.

Quakers plainness; p. 23. G. W. says, The meer Body of Jesus was not the intire Christ, yet the Name Christ is some­times given to the Body, [Page 32]tho' not so properly a [...] [...] the whole Man Christ.

Note, tho' G. W. here grants the Scriptur [...] sometimes calls the Body Christ, yet he will nei­ther call it Christ, no [...] own it to be so much as any part of Christ, bu [...] as a garment, if he be o [...] his Brother I. P's faith.

Numb. 49.

If. Pennington, p 20, That which he (Christ) took upon him was our Garment, even the fi [...]sh and blood of our Nature, which is of an earthly pe­rishing Nature.

G. W 's answ. to W [...] Harworth, That flesh sa [...] no Corruption, but wa [...] raised from the dead.

Note the Contradi­ction, for G W. here denys that it corrupted or perished.

Now least my old Friends should say, that I am so hard pinched to make them contradict themselves, as that if I should find in their Book that they say four Pence at one time and a Groat at another, that I would go near to make a Con­tradiction of it: Therefore I'll give a short hint of what G. W. calls Contradictions in their Op­posers Books. In Christ Aseend. p. 58. he brings John Newman to contradict himself, thus; The [Page 33]Scriptures principally called the Word—The Word that God hath spoken by his holy Prophets, blessed Son and Apostles. Now this may be called false Do­ctrine, but I profess they have better Eyes than I, that can see it to be a Contradiction. Pray judge if this be any more than to say four Pence in one place, & a Groat in another. Again, p. 60. he brings I. N. to contradict himself, thus; The Scriptures properly & principally called the Word.— The Will and Mind of God contained in the Scrip­tures. Note, Here J. N. in one Sentence explains his meaning in the other; but how 'tis a Contra­diction, I leave to the judgment of the Impar­tial, and whether G. W. here was not hard pinch­ed to find Contradictions; and yet many more such things he cites for Contradiction in that and several other of his Books, too large to insert here) to which I refer the Reader, with request to take notice what I might venture to call Con­tradictions by G. W' s Rule, should I shew my self so silly as to follow his Examples.

Numb. 50.

A Book entit This to go among Friends, by W. Smith, p. 17. As for G. Fox (says he) the Lord God hath exalted him, & his glory rests upon him, —not setting up a Man, [Page 34]or throwing down a man, but in all things giving the Power pre-eminence, and endeareaness to the Vessel filled with the ex­cellency of that Treasure.

W. Bayleys works, p. 307. For they (his Dis­ciples) loved his Person for the sake of the frame and Quality of the Spirit that dwelt in him, or else what was his Person [be­ing [Page 34]mean and Contemp­tible) to them, more than another Person?

Qu. To which of these do they give the Pre­ference? To the Person of Christ, or Vessel of G. Fox?

Numb. 51.

Great Mystr. p. 246. Priest says, God the Fa­ther never took upon him humane Nature. G. F. answers, That's contrary to Scripture, who saith, God was in Christ recon­ciling the world to him­self, and art ignorant of the great Mystry, God manifest in the Flesh.

Sword of the Lord drawn, pag. 5. Whereas you say, this Christ is God and Man in one Person, it is a Lye

Note, in one he is so far from denying God and Man in one Person, that he holds, not only God the Son to have taken Mans Nature, but God the Father also. O Confused Divinity!

Numb. 52.

Reas. agt. Railing, p. 20. In the fullness of Time he (Christ) mani­fested himself in a more familiar manner to Man­kina, in order to which he [Page 35]an holy Body, in which he preached his everlasting Gospel. [ Mark, an holy Body.]

T. Musgroves doctrin preached about Dela­ware, in the year 1695. That Christ as to his Manhood accounted him­self not good—Took no­thing [Page 35]on him that was good.

Note, The one holds the whole Manhood not good, the other, the very Body to be holy, & there­fore good.

Numb. 53.

Ans. to Dr. Lancaster, by G. W. &c. Christs Blood that was shed with­out the gates of Jerusalem together with the whole Sacrifice of himself, both of Soul and Body, was a true Propitiation and At­tonement for mans Recon­ [...]iliation and peace with God, for Remission o [...] sins, through a living Faith, &c.

Sandy Foundation, by W.P. p. 21. The Justice offended being infinite, his Satisfaction ought to bear a proportion therewith, which J [...]sus Christ as Man could never pay, he being finue.

Observe, Here G. W. opposing W▪ P. declares Christ, as Man, pays the debt for sin (through faith) if Soul & Body be the Man.

Numb. 54.

G. W's Light & Life, p. 41, 22. But three Co­ [...]ings of Christ (saith he) [...]hat in the flesh at Jerusa­lem, & that in the Spirit, [...]t also of another coming [Page 36]in the flesh, yet to be ex­pected, we do not read— But his second coming and appearance without sin unto Salvation, I own and witness.

Also, W. Bayley, pag. 306. says, I never rea [...] in all the Scriptures of a Third coming of Christ Personally, besides what shall be in [...] Saints.

Finally, This is the former Faith of W. P. and the Quakers inge­neral, too tedious he re to cite, of which we no where find they have made any Recantation.

Ans. to Dr Lancaster, by G▪ W. &c. Jesus Christ, true God & perfect Man, was put to death, buried, rose again, and Visibly ascended into Heaven, shall so in like manner come [as he was seen to go into [Page 36]Heaven] at the last and great day of Judgment and end of the World. Again, (in answ. to W. Harworth) The same Body that wa [...] put to death is still in be­ing the Man Christ di [...] not perish nor vanish either as to his Spirits, Son or Body.

Observe how plait their New Doctrine [...] for Christs visible com­ing in the same Body expresly Contrary to their O [...], or else dis­semblingly they now s [...] otherwise word the matter, but mean as formerly

As Fisher says, thus they dance round,
And round again in th' self same ground,
It staggers to and fro and reels,
Skips up and down, and runs on Wheels,
Starts aside like some broken Bow,
Crosses, Christ-like, Criss-cross in the Row;
Wind, D [...]st, Husk, Chaff, no stable Steepl [...]
A Tale that takes unstable People,
[Page 37]
A Toy, a Cloud, Mist, Smoak, a Fog,
('Tis Quakerism) and some Quavering Bog,
A Quick-sand, a Quagmire that sucks,
Who is in't, his feet out hurdly plucks

vid. Fishers Appendix, p. 773.

Numb. 55.

G. F's Gr. Mystry, p. 55, 63. All that makes [...]ompence [...]or sin is he [...]at never sinned, Christ [...]e second Adam, and not [...]e first —Christ gave [...]imself, his Body, for the [...]se of the World; he was [...]e Offering for the sins of [...]e whole World, & paid [...]he debt, and made Sa­ [...]isfaction.

Sandy Foundat. p. 21. W. P. denyes Christ to pay the Debt of our sins as he is God, because then the Father & Spirit being God, they also pay the Debt. Nor not as Man, he being Finite, (as above) Nor not as God & Man, as W. P. in that page expresly affirms.

A Little of G. Whiteheads help here might do well to word the matter so as to reconcile this Do­ctrine of W. P. and G. F.

Numb. 56.

R. B' s Apology, p. 95. Wherefore as we believe he (Christ) was a true and [...]al Man, so we also be­lieve that he continues so to be glorified in the Hea­vens in Soul and Body.

Note, W.P. says, as a­bove, Christ as Man was finite, viz. came to an end. But here R.B. says, he continues a real man in Soul & Body, & so is not finite.

Chuse which of these you will believe.

Numb. 57.

G F 's Gr. Mystry, p. 90 P [...]iest says, There is a kind of Infiniteness in the Soul, but it cannot be infiniteness in it self▪ G F. answers, Is not the Soul without beganning, coming out from God, returning into God again?

Note, W. P. as above, holds the Soul to be pro­perly the man And here according to G. F. this Man is without begin­ning; & if no beginning then no end, which is not only Infinite, but al­so Eternal. And yet, [Mark the Confusion,] W. P. before denys the Man Christ to be Infinite

Numb. 58.

G. W 's Div. of Christ, p. 27. The God whom we ser [...]e and believe in, is in­finite, the only wise God, and nothing relating to him, or his being, finite.

Sandy Foundat. p. 20. W. P. there calls the Man Christ, The Finite Impotent Creature.

Note the Clash, unless the Man Christ be not relating to God.

Here I cannot but take notice, that tho' W. Penn [...]lasphemously calls the Man Christ the finite imp [...]t [...]nt Creatu [...]e, yet he afterwards in his Reas. ag [...]nst Rail. (a above) and in other Books, calls his Body a [...]oly Body, as if he thought that way to salve and excuse his former gross Doctrine, o [...] at least to hood-wi [...]k his Readers, so as to let them see that he has so reverent esteem of [Page 39]Christ as to call his Body a holy Body, after he had (so irreverently) call'd his whole Man the finite impotent Creature.

Again, I observe W. P. to be one with his 24 Bre­thren, that in the City Mercary or News Book, owns and and defends these sayings, first in the Battle door, viz. All Languages are to me (sayes G. F.) no more but Dust, who was before Languages were. Next, in J.P's Collection, p. 199. But to the end of all Disp [...]tes and Arguments I am come; for before they were LAM, says James Parnell; To Pre-exist is to have a being before. where 'tis plain they de­clare themselves (at least) to pre­exist; and yet W. P. denys the Apostles to pre-exist; for in his Rejoynder, p. 299. he says, Paul did not pre-exist, Christ did. Now is not this a setting themselves above the Apo­stles, and equal with Christ? For Christ pre-existed, ( G. Fox and Ja. Parnell pre-existed but Paul did not pre-exist, says VV. P. Nay, fur­ther, I find in pag. 1. of the Book of the two women at Malta, D. Baker is not only for having his Friends, the Quakers to pre-exist, but also declares them to be Eternal, saying, O ye Eternal and blessed Ones! whilest the man CHRIST must be calld, The finite impotent Creature, by this high and elevated dust and ashes VV. Penn.

I shall now return to insert a few more Contra­dictory Clashes, and so haste to another head.

Numb. 59.

W. P's Rejoynder, p. 13 That (Christ) his coming was but [ Mark. but] to bring the world to a more improved knowledge and large enjoyment of that divine Power, Wisdom, Life and Righteousness which former Ages had, comparatively, but an ob­scure sight and imperfect sence of. And p. 296, 300. he justifies this saying, viz. That which Christ took upon him was but a Garment, even the flesh & blood of our Nature, which is of an earthly perishing Nature.

Truths Principles, by J. Crook, If Christ had not dyed, Man must have pe­rished in sin, this being the way, found out by God, to [...]ecover him.

Note, Here's one Chri­stian he grants the merit of Christs coming and Death. But W. P. makes the benefit of his coming to be no more but to shew man more plain what he saw before as through a glass, & per­haps thinks he mends [...]he matter by often cal­ling the Body A holy Bo­dy, whilst yet he renders that earthly & perishing.

Numb. 60.

G. F's Gr. Mystry, p. 222. Priest says, Christ is without his Saints, in respect of his Bodily pres [...]ho [...]. G. F. answers, H [...]w then are they of his fl [...]sh and his bone.

W. P. Chr. Quaker, p. 97. The Body of Christ is not so much as in any one.

Note, This W P. is still clashing against G. F. almost on every hand.

Numb. 61.

W. P's Address to Pro­ [...]estants, p. 119. Let us, (saith he) but soberly con­ [...]der what Christ is, and [...]e shall the better know [...]hether Moral men are [...] be reckoned Christians: What is Christ but Meck­ [...]ss, Justice, Mercy Pa­ [...]ence, Charity & Virtue [...] Perfection?

Note, Tho' W. P. Al­legorizes Christ, and makes him nothing but Virtues, yet his Brother G. W. tells W. Harworth as above) [...]hat Christ is something else, viz. a MAN, consisting of Spirit, Soul & Body, the same Body as dyed, or be only words the mat­ter so to deceive the People.

Observe now, That tho' these two mens Books quarrel about Doctrine, yet they ágree in praising [...]ne another; for G VV. in Qrs. plainness, p 5, [...]alls VV. P. A sincere hearted and zealous Man; [...]nd VV. P in one of his Books does as much for G. VV. And 'tis abundance of Books these two [...]en have written, yea, more by half than ever I [...]ave seen, nor do I desire to see them; for truly find Confusion enough in those I have seen, yea, more than I intend to demonstrate at this time, [...]ere being enough to shew the reason why they have not profited the People at all. W Penn says, Christ left nothing in writing, Chr. Quak. p 114, Christ wrote no Books. But they have not followed his Example in this; and yet he says, Christ was their Example.

But Note further, tho' W. P. will have Moral men to be Christians, yet R. Hubberthorn denys that Christ or Gods gift is obtained by moral means, and in p. 33. he calls them Lyars that so affirm. So let the Reader judge who is the Lyar in this case.

Again, I cannot but mind W P 's devised di­stinction and unscriptural Expression [if it were no worse] in calling the Man Christ The FINITE and IMPOTENT Creature; and yet G. VV. in his Introduction to Divinity of Christ, says, We judge that such Expressions and words as the holy ghost taught the Apostles and holy Men, mentioned in the Scriptures, are most meet to speak of GOD and CHRIST, and not the words of mans VVisdom and devised Distinctions, since the Apostles days. Now is not here a double face they carry, in seeming and pretending one thing, and yet practise the quite contrary. Again, in the Epistle to the same Book, they say, We charge you Presbyterians to give us printed Scripture for (the word) Abstract, &c. And yet in Qrs plainness, p. 26. G. VV. there uses the word Abstract. And 'tis abundance of such dissembling and silly Confusion thes [...] (seeming) wise mens Books are stuft with, too tedious here to mention.

And now I cannot but expect there will be great devising, pulling and drawing here, by some Quakers, rather than confess themselves guilty of the Confusion and Contradiction here charged, because [Page 43]they have so much accused others of the same thing. Surely some curious Wyre-drawing, [...]incing, Mangling, Otherwise wor [...]ing and Equivocating we must expect herein. But they [...]aving caught themselves in this Net (ten to one [...]ot) the more they'll flutter, the more they'll [...]etter themselves; for they cannot thus dance in [...] Net but some-body will see them; for they are [...]ow as easily seen through, as they pretend they [...]an see through others; yea, this will certainly [...]e the consequence, till they use the only Christian [...]eans to get out of this Net, which is by humbly confessing and condemning their Errors in their Books, as G. K. has done.

I shall now return to the matter in hand, and [...]sert a Clash or two about the Resuirection.

Numb. 62

W. P's Rejoynder, pag. [...]69, 307, I do utterly deny (says he, that this Text, [ viz. It is sown a natural Body, [...]nd raised [...] spiritual Body] is con­ [...]rned in the Resurrection [...]f mans carnal Body— [...] say, this doth not concern the Resurrection of carnal Bodies, but the two states [...]f men under the first & [...]cond Covenant.

W. Bayley's Works, p. 592, I own the Resur­rection of the Body (says he) as Paul did, viz. It is sown a natural Body, and raised a spiritual Body.

Qu. Whether it be one and the same Spirit that leads these men to expound Scripture in contradiction to each other? Surely old Israel with their Rams Horns were more Unanimous.

Numb. 63.

Chr. Quaker, p. 375 G. N. deciares, That this thing tends to Atheism, & to make men Atheist [...], viz other mens self con­fidence in asserting things contrary to reason & ma­nifest Experience, and in particular, in their affirm­ing that these self-same Terrestrial Bodies of flesh and bones shall be made spiritual, immortal and incorruptible. 'Tis true, (sa [...]s G. W.) Hen More had finer and more excel­lent Notions about the Re­surrection, than many o­ther learned men, & aim­ed at the Truth & spiri­tuality thereof, from the Vision of the holy men re­corded in the Scriptures.

Chr. Quaker, p. 372. G. W. cites H. More a­bout the Resurrection, saying, Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the King­dom of God; and I think (says he) there is the same reason of flesh and bones, viz. I understand natural flesh and bones, not glori­fied.

Note, G. VV. com­mends this Notion of H. More, as savouring of truth & spirituality, and yet renders those Atheists that believe the same; for H. More does not here deny the Re­surrection of the same Body that dyeth, only understands it must be glorified.

Note also, G.W. here confounds the same G. W. in his answer to W. Harworth, p 17, where he holds, That a very wonderful change may be in the Body, and yet the Substance not Annihilated or de­stroyed.

Reader, I do here honestly declare, that I would have cited more Contradictions about the Resur­rection, if I could readily have found them; but indeed, their Books do generally agree in this matter, viz. in denying the Resurrection of the Body that dyeth (as G. K. has largely made appear in his late Narrative of the Proceedings at Turners-Hall, London) so that I found no Passages to the contrary. But had it been my business here to have answered Books, I would have shewed how miserably blind Caleb Pusey shews himself a­about the Resurrection in his book, called, A Mo­dest Account, pray read from pag. 31, to p. 38. and see how he endeavours to shew G. K. incon­sistent with himself [where indeed there is no in­consistency] he gropes in the dark, like the Sodo­mites, carnally apprehending G. K. and very well demonstrating himself to be of the same faith with his Brethren, as aforesaid. Also, let all that read that Book of C. Pusey, take notice, that tho' he banters at G. K. for holding the Light not suffi­cient to save man, without something else, yet C. P. does not say in all his Book, that it is sufficient for Salvation without any thing else. Therefore how hypocritical is this to accuse a man for an Error, and yet dares not assert the contrary; but I refer the Reader to G. K 's answer to said C. Pusey, for further satisfaction, and so proceed to the next Chapter.

CHAP II. Of Opposition at Ʋnity.

THis is briefly to shew (and that chiefly from what is before cited) that those Quakers hold the same Doctrines which they have condemned in their Opposers, as Errors, blasphemous & dam­nable Doctrines; To do which, I shall only give an Example from two of their eminent Opposers, viz. John Bunion and Muggleton; the first quoted by Ed. Burroughs, the last by G. Whitehead.

E. B. cites J. Bunions Principles, p. 304, 306. Now I come (saith he) to reckon up John Bunions damnable Doctrines and Errors, viz.

1st, John Bunyon said, That Christs second coming was not his coming in the Spirit, for his coming in the Spirit is no Coming.

For this, see at Numb. 33. where G. W. owns the two comings of Christ, one that is already past, & another to come at the end of the world or last Day. And at Numb. 54. he there declares against three Comings, and will own but two; so that here G W. holds his coming in the Spirit to be no Coming.

2dly, J. B. said, That Christ had two Bodies, & [...]ne of the Bodies was out of the sight of the Saints.

For this see at Numb. 11. where Jo. Coal holds the Church to be the Body of Christ, & this Body G. I. (in Gr. Mystry, p. 93.) calls The Mystical [...]ody; that's one Body. Again, at Numb. 34, 35. G. W. holds, That Christs Body that dyed, is in [...]ing, a circumscribed spiritual Body. Note, here's [...]he two Bodies, as J B. holds.

3dly, J. B. said, That Christ ascended into Hea­ [...]n in our Nature.

For this, see at Numb 31, 35. where G. W. [...]olds, Christ to be a Man in Heaven, the same Body [...]hat was put to death, &c.

4thly, J. B said, That the Soul of man is the [...]ight, wherewith every man is enlightned by Christ, [...] God.

For this, see at Numb. 26, 27, 24. where G. F. [...]olds, the Soul to be a part of God, and to be the Seed [...] which Salvation is promised, which, he says, is the Hope, Christ.

Thus far they agree with Bunyions Principles, [...]hich they call damnable Doctrines.

Next, see Qrs. plainness, by G. W. p. 37, 38. [...]uggelton holds these false & blasphemous Doctrines (saith he) that the Quakers utterly deny, viz.

1st, That Death took Christs Soul into it, and that Christs Soul dyed when the Body dyed.

For this, see at Numb. 37, 38, 39. where the deny the Body to be Christ, & that it was Chris [...] that dyed, yea, they declare, That Christ in tha [...] Body dyed, or was crucified. And that both So [...] and Body was sacrificed, see Numb. 42.

2dly, That Muggelton holds, That the Godhea [...] Life dyed; That when Christ dyed, God dyed.

Now, see above whether they do not hold th [...] same; for at Numb 39, 11, G. N. says, It w [...] Christ that dyed; and [...]. P. says, Christ is of an E [...] ternal Nature, and his flesh and bones are of his N [...] ture; or nothing is Eternal but God [Mark that] an [...] compare it with their holding, That Christ in t [...] Body dyed.

3dly, That Muggleton holds, That Christ bei [...] God, imbodied with flesh and bone, one Person witho [...] us, cannot be in the Quakers.

For this, see at Numb. 35, 36, 12▪ where the hold, Christ remaias a Man, consisting of Spiri [...] Soul and Body, the same Body that dyed; and th [...] the Body of Christ is not so much as in any one.

4thly, That Muggleton holds, That God was bo [...] of Mary.

For this, see at Nuwb. 33, 51. where they declare, Christ to be true God born of Mary; also That God the Father took humane or Ma [...] Nature.

5thly, That Muggleton holds, That the De [...] became Flesh, Blood and Bone.

For this, see the Preface to G. W 's Judgmen [...] [Page 49]fixt, where he says of some seperate Quakers That they are Devils incarnate, viz. made flesh or become Man, which is flesh, blood and bone. Let G. W. otherwise demonstrate this, if he can, see­ [...]ng he says, The Lord laid a necessity on him to write [...]

Thus it appears how far their Doctrine agrees [...]ith what G. W. calls Muggletons false and blas­ [...]mous Opinions. Therefore as G. W. in p. 20. [...]f the same Book, says to the Baptists, Pray you [...]aptists (says he) before you conclude a final Sentence [...]on us, agree upon a consistent Creed that you intend [...] stand by, if you intend to impose upon us to believe [...] you believe, upon pain of Damnation. So now [...]e Baptists and other Professors may face about, [...]d say to the [...]uakers, Pray you Quakers tell us [...]hy did you not agree upon a consistent Creed [...]at you intend to stand by (if you intend to im­ [...]ose upon us to believe as you believe) before you [...]tenced us to Damnation, as many of you have [...]ne, & as G. W. has done, in his Book called Ish­ [...]el, &c. p. 11, 12. in these words, viz. Sensless [...]tural brute Beasts, MADE to be DESTROYED, [...]served in EVERLASTING Chains, under Dark­ [...], for everlasting Fire, Dogs, Sorcerers, shut out [...]n God; with many more such dreadful Sen­ [...]ces, or Quakers, Complements which agree [...]ll with Muggleton's Curses, at which George [...] been an Artist in his day, and his Brother Penn [...]ows him close, for he avouches the most cruel [Page 50]of these sort of Complements, in Reas, agt. Railing p. 165. as if these Quakers had a Patent to revile, and pronounce People Damned.

But pray look upon G. W 's other confident face, in his Apost Incendary, p. 4. where he says, As for our consessing that WE are the Church of the first born, let OUR DOCTRINE, TESTIMO­NY, LIVES and SUFFERINGS bear witness.

To which I say, SO BE IT, let their Doctrine and Testimony (before cited) bear witness, and let their Lives bear witness; for let their preach­ing against the Delights & Fashions of the world, and against REVILINGS, Envy, Pride, Cove­tousness, and other Debauche [...]ies, bear witness, while the world sees them guilty of all these things, as well as others.

Now, let them come forth and give a better Demonstration than their bear Say-so, that they are the Church of the first born, more than other Professors of Christianity, or else who do they think will believe them?

And lastly, As to their Sufferings bearing wit­ness that they are the Church of the first born; I say, if they will have Sufferings to be a Demonstration, then is the Church of England, (whom they have so much condemned) the Church of the first born; for they have really out-done the Quakers in Suf­ferings, as all the impartial will judge; for how many of them have expired in the Flames! how many strange cruel Torturers and bloody Massa­crees [Page [51]]in divers places, have many of them seffered for Religion! and doubtless, God would enable them to endure the like Sufferings again, rather then they would renounce their Religion. The like may be said of the Reformed Churches be­yond Sea, what cruel Sufferings have they under­gone!

Thus (my Old Friends) you may perceive how willing I am, that you should see that you are (at highest) but upon even ground with other Chri­stian Professors, whom you condemn; yea, cer­tainly you have exceeded all that I yet ever knew, in Equivocation, hiding of Sin, Reviling, &c. 'Tis my Prayer to God that I may be Instrumental to bring you down from despising your Fellow Creatures, Professors of Christ as well as you

But G. W. to prove the Quakers to be indeed the true Church, and not the Baptists▪ says, in Qrs. plainness, p. 33. We have a Record in Heaven, and also in many Consciences, &c. Now, Mark, does not the Baptists say the same, in their Book, called, A way to Zion? So that here one brings as good Proof as t'other; one says, and t'other says; yet G. F. unchristians all Professors, but themselves, for in his Professors Catechism, his very first words are▪ Come you Ʋnchristians, let us talk with you. But to face about again, W. Penn in his Perswasive to Moderation, pag. 46 calls them all Christians, and says, They only differ in the Com­ment, all allowing one Deity, Saviour and Judge, [Page 34]good Works, Rewards and Punishments. But the same W. P. turns again, and in his Rejoynder, p. 339. says, Oh! the Dreadful Darkness that over­spreads the hearts of the called Christians. There­fore says S. Fisher, p. 773.

Now this, not the other, anon its either,
Then by and by, its both and neither.

CHAP. III. A short Summary of Citations from the Quakers Books, shewing they deny Jesus of Nazareth to be the Christ.

SEe at Numb. 36, 20. where they hold those to be false Ministers, who preach Christ without, & bid People believe in him as he is in Heaven above; And that the Light within is Christ, and is ONLY and principal, and admits not of another. Also, at Numb. 15, 51. where they deny a God imagined to be beyond the Stars. And deny God and Christ to be a Man in one Person.

Now, he who is the Christ of all true Christians is Jesus of Nazareth, who is God and Man in one Person; and this Person is without all men in Heaven above, yea, and beyond the Stars too, and cannot be in any man. But he who is the Christ of these Quakers, they here shew, is not without man, not in Heaven above, not beyond the Stars, [Page 53] [...]ot God and Man in one Person; but that the Light within is Only their [...]h [...]i [...]t and admi [...] of [...] Other. And W. P. largely declare, That this Christ, or Light within, is the same, and no other than was in the Jews and Gentiles, before Christ became Jesus of Nazareth, see R [...]ason agt. [...]ailing, p. 16. Behold how plain [...]heir Books are [...] denying Jesus of Nazareth to be the Christ!

Again, see at Numb. 43. where J. W. denys Christ to have any Body of flesh and bones, but [...]ly the Bodies of men on earth. Also, denys [...]at Christ dyed. And also, I. P. Quest. p. 27. [...]ys, Is not the Substance the Light, the Life, called [...]rist, where-ever it is found? Doth not the Name [...] Christ] belong to the whole Body, and every Mem­ [...] of the Body, as well as to the Head?

Thus, by their Doctrine, every believing Qua­ [...] [...] may be called Christ, as well as he that suffered [...] the Cross. But I dare say, no true Christians [...]ieve thus, they believe Jesus of Nazareth to [...] Christ, and that the Name belongs to no man [...]e, no, not to the best man on Earth. Also, [...]ey believe the true Christ hath a Body of flesh [...]d bones, without all men, and that he did dye [...]trary to what those Quakers say of their [...]rist.

You may also see many other Passages cited [...] this Book, that confirm this their denyal of [...]us to be Christ. As, one at Numb. 38 where [...] P. denys the outward Person that suffered to [Page 54]be the Christ of God. And another at Numb. 24. where G. F. says, The Seed of Abraham is the Sa­viour of the World; and at Numb 12. W. P. says, This Seed is the Light within, and not what pro­ceeded from the Virgin, Chr. Quaker, p 97.

But to be brief, take one Passage from Christian Quaker, p. 10 W. P. says, Though this general Vi­ctory was obtained, and holy Priviledges there-with, and that the holy Body was not Instrumentally without a share thereof, yet the Efficient and Chief cause was the Light and Life—Pag. 111. So that thus far w [...] can approach the honester sort of Professors of Religion &c.

Observe how far they approach other Christi [...] ­stians; He calls the Body H [...]LY, but can this b [...] other than Hypocrisie? for as is noted at Numb [...] 49, 59. he holds the Body to be earthly & perishing and yet here calls it Holy; nay, the whole Ma [...] Christ he calls, The Finite Impotent Creature; an [...] yet here, (four years after to hide the matter calls the Body holy. Behold the Fruits of pr [...] ­tending to be Infallible! for whatever they po­lish, though never so blasphemous, they cann [...] retract nor condemn it, but use what deceit th [...] can to cover and justifie all.

Note, Tho' some of their late Doctrine see [...] to contradict some here cited, by being otherw [...] worded, G. W. shews, that all that may well [...] and yet they intend the same thing, Connt. Conve [...] p 72 and we must be content so to take it, they repent and condemn their old Doctrine.

CHAP. IV. Of calling Names for Religion.

THough these Quakers do blame all others for calling hard Names, yet they seem not to [...]ome short of others in this matter, by what follows.

Rejoynded, p. 427 W. Penn with one Tongue accuses J. Faldo of Railing, and ill bred Names, and yet with his t'other Tongue he calls J. Faldo these ill [...]red Names, viz. Revengeful, Canniball, Cur yelping at the Moon, &c. see his Introduction, and p. 405.

Also, G▪ Whitehead, with his smooth Tongue, (in Counterfeit Convert) says, Why do you thus write, why do you trouble the World with such BITTER Treatment? But then with his Rough Tongue he calls some seperate Quakers, for their denying Womens Meetings, &c. Vile Apostates, Ʋnruly Beasts, Dogs, Wolves, Devils incarnate, &c. So now it may be said to him, Why dost thou thus write? Why dost thou trouble the world with such bitter Treatment?

Again, W. P. in Reas. agt. Railing, p. 165. he justifies, and declares that he abides by these ill Names given by E. Burroughs, p. 30, &c. to wit. [Page 38] Thou Jesuit, thou Sot, t [...]ou Sorcerer, thou art a Serpent, and the Curse of God is eternally upon thee; Thou art shut out from God forever, thou sottish filthy polluted Beast, thou dark Beast & Conjurer, &c.

And yet in Addres [...] to Protestants, p. 242. he at once unchristians himself and all his Brethren, for so doing, for saith he, Men that call Names [...]or Religion, may tell us they are Christians, if they will, but no body would know them to be such by their fruits, to be sure they are no Christians of Christs making— Good Reader take Notice of it; Alas! how has the man forgot himself!

Again, in brief Discovery, p. 7, 8, 9. by G. F. and others, The Priests are a Viperous and Ser­pentine Generation, Thieves, Lyars, Anti-christs, Conjurers, Witches, Devils, greedy Dogs, really they are Blood-Hounds, still hunting and gaping for their Prey like the Mouth of Hell—Being universally the Bane of Soul and Body, for whom the Theatre of Gods most Dreadful Vengeance is reserved to act their Eternal Tragedy upon; Thus W. Ponn in his Guide Mistaken. &c.

But hold, let us hear what G. F. says, That him­self and W. P. are for distinguishing a Generation of men by hateful and reproachful Names, Why, [...]; pag. 8 of West ans. North, 'tis said, He, who­ever he be, who distinguishes a Generation of Men, under one and the same Government, from the rest, and puts upon them a hateful Name of Distinction & Reproach, whereby th [...]y & others are set in Opposition, [Page 57]breaks the Peace, overthrows the end of the Law, and [...]ads into War, and every evil Work, and s [...]ow a one [...] an evil doer in a high degree.

Thus here is a Continuation of their SO▪ NO, NO, SO: Here they call themselves no Christians of Christs making, and not only so, but also Evil [...]ers in a high degree; for I here affirm, by all the skill they have, they cannot invent or use more [...]ateful and reproachful Names than these; let [...]em confute me, if they can.

Thus I thought fit to give a hint only of their [...]musing the World with such Bitter Treatment (as G. W 's word is) I could insert forty times as many such Complements out of their Books, if [...] were worth reading, yea, e [...]ough to fright sober People, if this will not. But I shall con­clude, with only inserting a few Rhymes out of their Book, called Righteous Judgment, in answer to Fr. Bugg, p. 97. to s [...]ew what prodigious and profound Railery proceeds out of their second Days Meeting at London, as if the Quakers were [...]he only People excellent in the more serious part of that Infernal Practice of inventing or using Hellish Epithites They begin thus,

Thinkest tho [...] to scare us out of our good Order (of Men and Womens Meetings) with thy Goggle-eyed Image of Jealousie, which if thou didst see through thy Spectacls, might afright thee out of thy shallow [...]nceits.

An Ʋgly Spectael [...] for

Rogers Team, [...]risp, Penny man, Bullock & Bug,
Dark Devil driven dungy Gods, desperarely lugg,
Being tyed to the Tail of their seperate S [...]ism,
Popish Libertine, Heathanism, Juda [...]sm, Atheism.

Now, is it not impossible for men, by words, to utter more base and wicked railing Reflections than these Rhymes contain? But herein are they still self-condemned also, for says G. F Gr. Mystry, p. 237. The Work of the Ministers of the Gospel was not to reflect on Persons, or strike at Creatures; thou that reflects on Persons, thou art a false Prophet, &c. Thus not only our Neighbour Preachers, but also those who have of late come over Sea to visit us, are false Prophets (by this their Doctrine) for their Reflections. And yet, how frequently do these false Prophets tell their Hearers, Tis for your good that we spend and are spent, and leave our Countries, our dear Wives and tender Children, and altogether deny our selves of this World, &c? I confess, this is so plausible, that I think it might affect all Christian hearers, but especially such who neither considers the manifest effects of their late Ministry, nor the worthy Observation that our Saviour made of some, who compassed Sea and Land to make one Proselite [and why not these to make many] but when he is made, says our Lord, they make him two fold more the Child of Hell, &c.

Note, These five men i [...]esrted in the aforesaid [Page 59]Rhymes, they call a Team of Devils, and here I expect they will put me in for a sixth Devil. But seeing 'tis contrary to Law to out six Horses in a Team, I query whether a Team of six Devils be not unlawful also?

CHAP. V. Of Prophesies.

OF the many Prophecies and Predictions that I could mention out of my old Friends Writings, I shall at present only set down two.

The first is the Prophecy of Solomon Eccles against John Story who (as S Eccles charged him) contemned Womens Meetings, viz. This is the Word of the LORD to thee, This year thou shalt Dye, because thou hast taught Rebellion against the Living God.

The second, is the Prophecy of G. Whitehead against George Keith, viz. And thus saith the LORD, Because thou hast poured out Contempt, Scorn and Reproach upon my Servants and People, I will assurealy pour out and bring great Contempt and Scorn upon thee

Note, If others think Curses to be fitter Names for these, I'll not contend. But however, Sol. Ecclis not wording that of J. S cunningly enough, he happened to he a false Prophet. Therefore [Page 60]Age and Experience has taught George Whitehead Other wise to word the matter, (as he tells us in his Counter. Convert, p. 72.) for if G. W had pre­dicted some signal or eminent Judgment or Mis­chief to have befallen G K according to the gr [...]eds of the Wick [...]dness, that they charge [...] to be guilty of, he might have mist it too, and to have [...]az [...]eded his honour of being account­ed a Prophet, by his Brethren and Friends. But now, 'tis but to conceit that G K. is scorned and contemned [the fate of all men, less or more] and G W 's Prophecy is fulfi [...]ed, and he keeps his Honour by thus draftily wording the matter.

And truly, we can hear no better account of th [...]se Preachers late Prophecys of Judgments to fall [...]o sever [...]l Towns and Places in England with­in ce [...]tain Months, not one of them is fullfilled, that we hear of; And though the Prophecy and [...]ust Plymouth was so particular, that at the Time prefixt most or many of the People left the Town, but the Judgment not happening, they returned home, saying, This Quaker was a false Prophet. Well, my Friends, I was willing only to give you a small hint of some of your Prophets Infallible Prophecys, advising you and them to observe G. W 's Rule, viz. Otherwise to word the matter for the future, or cease blaspheming and taking the Name of the Lord in vain, as is too frequent for you to do.

CHAP. VI. Of Infallible Discerning.

HAaving met with but poor proof of their being Infallible Prophets, among the Pro­ [...]hecys, let us in the next place come to their [...]pirit of Infallible Discerning, and see how they [...]n discern more than others. The first instance shall here bring is out of G. F's Great Mystry, 107. where he says,

The Quakers are of Abraham 's stock, before Anti­ [...]rist was, or you (Priests) were; and the Quakers [...] witness, they are made free from the wrath to come. [...]nd thou (Priest) sayst, that the holiest man cannot [...]ve an Infallible Character of another man; hast [...] thou in this discovered thy self to be no Minister Christ, or of the Spirit, who cannot give an infal­ [...]ble Character of another man, how canst thou mini­ [...]r to his Condition? how canst thou see where he is? [...]ow canst thou see them that be turned from the Dark­ [...]ss, and that be in Darkness, and distinguish the [...] from the other, an holy man from an unholy man, [...]at canst not give an infallible Character of any mans [...]ate? Pag. 89. Thou art an ignorant man, no [...] [...]nst minister to the People, not knowing the Condi­ [...] they be in, unless they tell thee. And p. 9. You [Page 62]that have not that which is Infallible to judge in you, know not the Spirit of Christ, neither can you judge of Persons or Things, and have not the Infallible Judg­ment, neither have you the Word of God in your hearts, nor Christ which is Eternal and Infallible.

Y [...]u must Note, that this is spoke of and to the World, the Priests of the World; but then he turns [...]out, and tells what Friends have, viz. All which (i. e. the Word of God, infallible judg­ment, &c.) the Quakers have to judge of Persons & Things. And p. 8, 249, 267. The Quakers are the Preservers & Savers of Souls. [A [...]rare People] — Them called Quakers the ONLY Ministers o [...] Christ — And how can they but delude the People, tha [...] are not infallible? Thus far G F.

Now by this Doctrine the Quakers are not Mi­nisters of Christ, but Deluders of the People; fo [...] they have not this infalliabe Discerning, as thos [...] manifold Examples testifie, for have not many o [...] their Preachers and Elders been guilty of diver gr [...]ss [...]ils especially Whoredoms and Adulterie and yet have still kept their outward Minister and Station, and their state not discerned b [...] their B [...] been till by accident it has been out wardly discovered? And therefore, should the not look upon the many Discoveries that has be [...] made of their falling into those snares, to be bo [...] from the Justice and Mercy of God to them? fir [...] as a Judgment upon them, for presu [...]ning to pre­tend to such high Attainments, beyond all othe [...] [Page 63] Christian Professors now living; Next, as a Mercy [...]nto them, to shew them their Weakness and Presumption, if happily they could see it.

For why cannot my old Friends about Delaware [...]e that they want this Spirit of Discerning, as [...]uch as other People, by those late ill Examples of divers of their Preachers, especially of their [...]eing unlawfully concerned with Women, yet [...]heir state undiscerned, till discovered, as afore­ [...]id; and especially that of Rob. Ewer at Phila­ [...]phia, whom the Meeting of Ministers that was kept at his House, did not discern? But which is to be lamented, some are so blinded by [...]heir Preachers crying out, All is Lyes, that they'll [...]carce believe these things, No, not this of Rob­ [...]wer, tho' Publickly proved.

Take one Passage more for Infallible Discerning, from Richard Hubberthorns Wo [...]ks, patron [...]z'd by G. W. and others, p. 212. he there tells a Priest, That they are Lyars that say the Ministers of the Go­ [...]pel do not know who are Elect; for they could dis­ [...]urn the Elect from the World. So these Teachers that know not the Elect (says he) and yet exhort all [...]heir Hearers to believe, and lay hold on Christ, their [...]reaching is vain. And these Priests (says he) tho' they take Sums of Money of their Hearers, yet they [...]ow not who are elect among them.

Come on, my old Friends, come prove your [...]elves, try your selves, and let us know next time [Page 64]you print, whether by this your Rule, there be one Gospel Minister now left amongst you?

But [...]o wheo [...] round about, and knock all down again, W [...]oms says, in his Rebuke p, 22. We ascribe not Infall [...]bil [...]ty to Men, but to the Grace of God, and to men SO [...] AR as they are led by it. Behold Rea­de [...], and [...] this Rhetorick well! For are no [...] other Professors, yea, ALL men in the world SO FAR infal [...]able, as well as Quakers? here W. P has given away the Quakers cause, and set them on even ground with others. But says G. W I cannot give away our cause, for we have sufficient evidence of discerning of Spirits, Timerous Reviler p. 3. Thus George thinks fit to keep up his Con­fidence with bace Say so's, though he cannot but know that the world knews his Say so's, to be false. And I have known a silly Women cheat their pre­tended Spirit of discerning, who travelled from Meeting to Meeting, through several Counties (being bravely received & entertained by Friends) und scerned, till discovered to be no Quaker by others: And such things as these has made them find out a way to help their Spirit of Discerning by admitting none now to travel [on Truths account, as they call it] without Certificates▪ so that tho' G. W. in Qua. plainness, &c tells us They have a Record in Peoples Consciences; yet now they must have a Record in their Pockets, or else I'll assure them, their Friends will not receive them, by their Conscience Record; Let them [Page 65]deny this if they dare; and tell me how many Friends comes over Sea hi [...]her, or goes hence to other Countries to preach by their Consciences Record, without their Pocker Record. And thus is G. W 's Deceit seen, with their [...]uffici [...]nt Evi­dence of Spiritu [...]d Discerning, aforesaid.

But I had almost forgot, how that of late years their infallibility seems to be run our of parti­cular Persons into the Body of Friends or Church, as G. W. demonstr [...]tes in his Apost. [...]ncend. p. 4, 16. there he declares them (the Quakers To be THE People and Church of God, and so to be In [...]alli [...]le, and CANNOT ERR, nor be deceived. But where is this Body or Church? sure not that Meeting of Ministers at Robert Ewer's House in Philadelphia. No, Sam. Jenings lets us know, 'tis at London; for in his Speech at that Yearly Meeting, 1694. he declared. That the Meeti [...]g i [...] America depended on that at London. So then it seems, the Mee­ings else where are but Members of that Body at London and 'tis clear, that the Members so depend on the Body, that if the Body dyes, the Members cannot live) This indeed is the Foun­dation Principle of Old Rome. And here Samuell Je [...]ings has shewed us where New-Rome is. In­ [...]eed I lately read how that the Quakers in Eng­land presented six Publick Addresses to the late King James in four years time; but in five years that King WILLIAM had reigned, the [...] had not presented one to him: And does not this then [Page 66]shew, that those Quakers who thus addressed King James, are as near a kin to the Papists as Sam. Jenings? I also read one thing more, viz. That the Pope once set up Womens Meetings for the increase of Faith among the Waldenses; and I can­not find that ever any else has done the like, beside Geo. Fox, &c. and yet I have searched the Scrip­tures, and some Church Histories too; and 'tis pitty that they have no other President but the Pope, for those Meetings are certainly of service in Deeds of Charity and Hospitality.

In divers other things there seems a very great Harmony between Old Rome and Sam. Jening'ss New Rome, which I am not desirous to repeat now. This know for certain Friends, that the way to recover the deceived, is to discover, lay open and witness against the Deceivers, see T. Elwood's Epist [...] p. 72. Therefore sinee this Truth has chanced to drop from T. E.'s Pen, I shall add, that though my old Friends oft bless themselves thus, viz. WE are redeemed from a vain Life & Conversation more than any Society in Christendom; WE are the ONLY Professors of Truth; and WE are in the Truth, and ALL OTHER Professors are OUT of the Truth [and so says the Pharisees, We are no as other men, We give Alms, We Fast twice a week &c.] Yet I must now say for them, We Quaker do not, nor never did out-do the Papists in general as to Life & Conversation; but herein the Righ [...] teousness of Papists & Quakers doth so harmonize [Page 67]that it made the late Ring James say (as I have an account) in his discourse one with R. Barclay, That if he were disposed to change his Religion, he would turn Quaker. No marvel then why.

But I cannot well omit giving one instance more about the Foundation Principle of Old Rome or top stone of Popery; See Plain Dealing, &c. by P. Livingstone, page 12, 20, 22. where treating about that he calls the form of Truth, viz. gi­ving the Hand, the Hat, and going to Meeti [...]gs, he says, Friends that stand in the Life, and are in the Body, k [...]ow that there is not, NOR CANNOT be preservation out of the Body; for they that are out of the Body [of Friends] are out of the Faith; And the Lord hath chosen the Quakers a peculiar People, above ALL People upon the Earth; and we are to turn to no other People, &c. Mark just so the Pa­pists say, There is no Salvation or Preservation out of the Body or Church. And that they must believe as the Church believes, or they cannot be saved; as he fur­ther says, p. 23. They that believe not as the true Church believes, CANNOT be saved; but this we know of an infallible Certainty, that WE being faith­ful in the Truth, those that are gone from us are of another Spirit, and Not of the Faith of the TRƲE Church.

The very same the Papists say, WE are the true Church, and All that are gone from us, are not of the saith of the true Church. Pray consider, where these Quakers are, And also whether Old Rome can lay a [Page 68]greater Necessity on such low exteenal Ceremo­ [...] as the Hand the Hat, and going to Meetings? for, [...]he assim [...]s p. 5. That Spirit that leads from the pra [...]r [...] thereof, to b [...] dark Spirit, clearness and fr [...]eo [...]o [...] is not [...], but it doth lead it to bondage.

But how quite contrary this is to that in Truths P [...]iol [...], p 24, 51. Every Man ought to be left FRE [...], as the Lord shall perswade his OWN Mind, in doing, or leaving undone, this or the other Practice in Religion. This indeed looks quite with another face, clean contrary to Rome's Impositions afore­said; and yet these Quakers would have us believe they are led by the ONE Spirit. But I perceive J. Crook that wrote that Book, is not a fit Man for their Society.

CHAP VII. Of the Scriptures.

CHristian Quaker, pag. 104. W. P. cites and transposes the Apostles words, thus, Lo, in the Volumn of the Book it is written, I come to do thy Will, O God, A Body hast thou prepared me. But grant W. P hath not altered the Sense of that Text, yet by W. P 's own Doctrine, 'tis very que­stionable whether that be true Scripture, especi­ally because what is written in the [...]olumn of the [Page 69]Book of the old Testament, is only this, Sacrifices and Offerings thou aidst not desire, mine Ears [...]ast thou opened, Psal. 40.6. Mark, here [...]s not a word of a Body hast thou prepared me, which [...]e and his Brethren make such a Noise about in their Books.

Now says W. P. ( Rejoynder, p. 38) I cannot but observe at what a suspected rate the Scriptures have been both first collected, and then conveyed through the several succeeding Ages—I may well object, Are we sure the Judgment of them who first collected them was sufficient to determine what was right, a [...]d what not?—(Also How shall we be assured that in above 300 years, so many hundred Copies as were doubtless taken, should be pure and uncorrupted, con­sidering the private Dissentions, the readiness of each party to bend things to their own belief, and the grow­ing and succeeding Faults of leaving out, a [...]ding, transposing, &c. Nor was the Collectors Judgment In [...]allible—Learned men tell us of little less than 3000 several Readings of the Scriptures of the New-Test­ament in Greek Hence we may observe the Ʋn­certainty of J. Faldo 's Word of God, &c.

Now therefore since W. P. thus declares the Uncertainty of the Scriptures of the New-Testa­ment, and the Psalmist (to which the Apostle seems to refer) shews that Text to be altered, why then should he and his Brethren build such monstrous Principles upon so uncertain a Founda­tion as they render it? That upon these words, [Page 70](which it seems are properly) Mine Ears hast thou opened; as that therefore he who dyed a [...] Je­rusalem was not Christ, but a prepared Body; and that the Jews did not see Christ, but a pre­pared Body; and that the outward Person born of the Virgin was no part of Christ, but only a Garment (see Numb. 38, 48.) And to strengthen this Anti-scriptural Doctrine, T. Elwood has one knack in his Truth Desended, p. 138. where he ventures to belye the common Creed; The common Creed (says he) called the Apostles Creed, says, Christ was conceived by the holy Ghost, Though born of the Virgin. Now pray search the common Creed, and see if the word [Though] be there to be found. Behold this great Quakers Cham­pion! O what an Imposture would he have rendered George Keith to the World, had he wrote this Lye of the Creed.

Note further, W Penn cites and defends this Passage, Rejoynder, p. 61. Quest. Of what service are the Scriptures, as they are given forth and recorded without? Ans. Much every way (saith he) and there is an Agreement and Ʋnion between the Spirit within and the words without.

Observe here how this wise Man confounds himself: The Scriptures, by his account, are al­together Uncertain, and suspicious (at least) of being corrupted; and yet there is an agreement and u [...]ion between the Scriptures, as recorded without, & the Spirit within. How does he here [Page 71]render the Spirit Uncertain! One may see by this, that a man who writes much had need have a good [...]emory, or a stable Faith.

Again, something like this is that late Confes­sion of G. W. in his Counter. Convert, p. 26. We [...]refer the holy Scriptu [...]es (saith he) before all the books extant in the World.

Now, observe here how G. W. carries a double [...]ice to deceive his Reader; for he does not say, [...]hat he prefers the Book called the Bible, before [...]ll Books extant; no, for then he would contra­ [...]ict their Old Books; for the Scriptures in the [...]ible they esteem Uncertain (as above) And their [...]ormer Doctrine shews plainly what those holy Scriptures be, which they prefer; for in Truths Defence, p. 2▪104. they say, You might as well have condemned the Scriptures to the fire, as our Papers and Querys—for our giving forth Papers or printed Books it is from the immediate and eternal Spirit of God. Hence it appears, that those holy Scrip­tures which they prefer, are their own Books, and so much or such parts of the Bible as they will allow to remain uncorrupted, &c. And thus this insincere G. Whitehead hides himself, by a deceivible meaning, as is more plain by what he says in his [...]ntient Book, called, Truth defending, p. 7. That which is spoken from the Spirit of Truth in any (says G. W.) is of as great Authority as the Scriptures and Chapters are, and GREATER, &c.

Now, let the Reader judge what those holy [Page 72]Scriptues are, that they prefer before all Books extant in the World▪ And as to what parts of the Bible they will allow to be holy Scriptures, hea [...] what Joh. Wh [...]ch ad says in Refuge fixed, p. 17. viz. Whether Moses o [...] H [...]rmis were the first Pen-man of the Scriptures? or whether both these, and not one? And whether some words were not spoken by the grand Imposter, some by Wicked Men; some by Wise Men ill applyed; some by good Men [...] expr [...]ssed; some by false Prophets, a [...]d wet true; some by true Prophets, and yet false, &c. Now Reader, do but compare this with what W. Penn says before; and then if my old Friends, for time to come, should object and say, There are seeming Contradictions in the Scriptures, (or Bible) and therefore well may our Friends Books seem to contradict eac [...] other. Pray let them know, that there are not only seeming, but real Contradictions in their Books, but not in the Bible. And as to any see [...]ing Contradictions that may be in the Bible, they themselves (as above) have given the reasons why 'tis so, viz. having been corrupted; but their Books cannot be corrupted, because we have the first Impression of them, which they say, are given forth from the Immediate and Eternal Spirit of God, and so must needs be better and mo [...]e certain Scripture than the Bible, a [...]c [...]ng to their ow [...] Doctrine

Now as to the Titles they give to the Scriptures, take a little more of their Clink Clank as W. P. says of the Priests) for in a Book of G W 's call'd, [Page 73] Davids Enemies discovered, p. 7. he says, These Quakers, do NOT call the [...]our Book [...] of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the New Testament and [...]ospel, as thee and thy Generation (of Priests) do.

But T Elwood, in his Antidote, p. 81. calls the Writings of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John The New-Testament Scriptures of Truth, and so is no Quaker, if G. W. say true; for so he sees cause [...] word the matter.

Again, J. Tomkins and W. Penn put out a Book, [...]nd call it, The Harmony of the Old and New Te­ [...]ament, and so are no Quakers, if G. W. say true. [...]ut pray Note, Though they tell of the Harmony [...]f the Old and New Testament, yet there's but [...]ttle Harmony in their Books, which they esteem [...]qual with, if not prefer to the Scriptures.

Again, W. Caton, in his Books to his Friends, [...]ag. 35.42. calls the VVritings of Matthew, Mark, [...]uke and John, The GOSPEL, and so is no Quaker, [...] G. W. says true. Well, what think ye, my [...]ld Friends, can we suppose these men are any [...]ore led by the ONE Spirit, than others are? [...]ely Nay.

But to face about again, G. Fox, in his Book, News from the North, p. 14 saith, Your Church is Steeple House, which is Carnal, and your Teacher Carnal, your O [...]iginal is Carnal, Hebrew, Greek [...]nd Latine; and your Word is Carnal, the Letter; [...]nd the Light is Carnal, the Letter. [...]o Dust is the [...]erpents Meat; their Original is but Dust, which is [Page 74]but the Letter, which is Death; Their Church i [...] Dust, a [...]e ap [...]o Lime and Stone gathered together. So the Se [...]pent feeds upon Dust—And their Gospel is DUST, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, which is the Letter.

[...] Now Observe,

  • first, how he tells of the Ser­pent feeding on Lime and Stone; pray is not this Carnal too? had not the Devil need to have strong Teeth to know upon Ste [...]ple-Houses? Sure this is both Carnal and Ridiculous, or Ranter-like.
  • Secondly, He renders the Scriptures all alike Carnal, Dust and Serpents Meat, with Hebrew, Greek and Latine. Here's no preference, except in their own Books, and some of those they en­title, The Word of God, The Word of the Lord, A living Testimony, &c. Now if they say the Bible will grow Old and molder away, and become Dust, I say, so will their Books too. And if they say, 'Tis the Sence contained in the Words of their Books, which they call the Word of God, the Word of the Lord; I say, the like is understood of the Scriptures in the Bible. And yet (as do the Papists, so) they have opposed others, calling them Lyars that say The Scripture is the Word; If this be not Equivo­cation, I say again, 'tis an exalting their ow [...] Books above the Bible. Above the Bible did I say yes, why not? for the aforesaid Book, called News out of the North, was (as G. Fox says, p. 1.) Written from the MOUTH OF THE LORD, b [...] ­ [...] [Page 75] [...] who is Naked, and stands Naked before the [...]d, cloathed in Righteousness, whose Name is not [...]wn to the World, which was prophecyed of, but [...] in fulfilled. Therefore it must needs be better [...]ipture than the Bible, for they tell (as above) [...]w Uncertain that is.

Therefore, whatever late Confession they have [...]d [...], in pretending to prefer the Scriptures of [...] Prophets and Apostles before all Books, it [...] be no other but Deceit, till they condemn [...]r old Doctrine; for G. VV. confesses, Their [...]entions may be the same, tho' they may see cause [...]ow) otherways to word the matter, Count Conv. [...]g. 72

And Lastly, Sam. Fisher says of the Scriptures. [...] were their Transcriptions and Translations never [...]tain and entire, by answering to the first Original [...]s, yet are not [...]apable to be to all men) any other [...] a Lisbian Rule or Nose of Wax, see his Addi­ [...]nal Appendix, p. 21. Mark how he affirms [...]t if the Scriptures were never so true, yet [...]y are capable of being NO OTHER than a [...]se of Wax. Now I dare affirm, there is no sort [...] People else in Christendom, except Papists, will [...]k thus of the Scriptures. But experience tells [...] That all sensible Christians who protest against [...] Popish Principle, cannot but have an evidence [...] themselves to the worth and purity of the Scriptures, by those sweet Streams of Life that [...] felt by reading and meditating thereon, [Page 76]beyond what can be felt by reading any other Books.

But before we conclude this Head, take on Verdict more from W. P [...]s Spirit of Truth, p. 38 [...] The Scripture (says he) is much like the Shadow of th [...] true Rule. Now all men know, That the shado [...] is a vain empty uncertain thing, sometimes two or three times longer or shorter than the True or Substance.

Again, W Smiths Primer, p. 11.12. Quest Wh [...] is the Service of the Scriptures, if they be not a Rule and for tryal of things that are spoken? Ans. Th [...] are of great Service, Child, and are to be read are believed—(But) if thou lookest upon the Scriptur [...] for A RULE, and for Trying, thou givest that un [...] [...]hem which belongs unto Christ, &c.

Note, Here the Scripture is denyed to be a [...] Rule at all, no, not so much as to try actions [...] words. But he says, They are to be believed; a [...] yet W.P. shews them to be Ʋncertain. So [...] must believe that which is Uncertain, and no Ru [...] in any case. Is not this rare Doctrine!

But to face round about again, E. Burrou [...] in his Hu [...]-and-Cry after false Prophets, says, I sh [...] lay all People to the Line of Judgment by TH [...] RULE of the Scriptures, and the Spirit that g [...] them, see p. 880. where he not only makes [...] Scripture A Rule, but The Rule, yea, so far [...] Rule, that he trys, judges and condemns the Prie [...] by the express words of Scripture; as Ʋncerta [...] and Corrupt as they render them before.

But as Sam. Fisher says of the Priests, so pray [...]serve G W 's Rounds, Wheelings & Whirlings, [...] in his Book, Tit. Ishmael, &c. p. 3.10. he asserts, [...] Scripture of the Bible is Carnal, the Letter is [...]ath, and killeth; yet he calls his own Writings, [...]e Light and Lise of Christ, &c. But to face [...]out again, he tells us, They prefer the holy Scrip­tures before all Books in the World. But then Round [...] goes again, saying, That which is spoken by the [...]rit of Truth is of as great Authority as the Scrip­tures are, & greater, &c. [And that their Writings [...]t given forth by the Eternal Spirit of God] But [...]ound again comes George with a back stroke, [...]d in Qrs. plainness, p. 71. he says, Our Intention [...]d Principle never was to bring our Books in Compa­ [...]son with the Scriptures. O Confused Confidence [...]d Self-Contradictions!

CHAP. VIII. Of Magistracy and Government.

ALthough I have plenty of Instances before me to cite out of my Old Friends [...]s, I shall [...]gin with my Neighbour Sam. Jer [...] [...]k, [...]all'd, The state of the Case, p. 73. where he says, Magistracy and Government we always on [...]d to be [...] Ordinance of God.

Now Observe, here S. Jenings deals deceitfull [...] and dishonestly, in pretending to be what reall [...] they are not; for he does not tell what nor whose Government they have always owned to be God [...] Ordinance; for these words of his imply, that the [...] have owned all Government under which they hav [...] lived, to be Gods Ordinance, when as their Books declare they own no Government to be such but the Government of those who witness Christ to rule an [...] r [...]ign in them, all other Government being but as [...] c [...]ersome Tree that must be cut down; fo [...] in T [...] Light, by W. Smith, p. 16. saith, We ow [...] Government and Magistracy that stands in th [...] Power of God and executes true Judgment within th [...] Gates, calling down Sin and Evil doers, and setting up Reghteousness, and THO [...]E that walk therein So here 'tis not the Government of such as caus [...] them to suffer loss of Goods and Liberty, tha [...] they own to be Gods Ordinance, As is furthe [...] shewed from Great Mistry p. 90. by G [...]F. Suc [...] as are turned to Corruption (saith he) are Hypocrite [...] they are gone from the higher Power, and so for th [...] Lords sake the Saints cannot be subject to that Power [...] And p. 20. of News from the Noath, Sing all y [...] Saints, clap your hands and be glad, for the Lord Jehovah will reign, and the Government shall be take [...] from you pretended Rulers, Judges, Justices, Law [...] yers and Constables; all this Tree must be cut down and Jesus Christ will Rule alone. Again, I the Ligh [...] will Overturn Kingdoms, Nations and gathered [Page 79]Churches, that will not own me the Light in them; [...]e G. W 's Light and Life, p. 11.

Now, is it not evident from hence, that if Sam. Jenings had exprest himself in the antient implicity of a Quaker, he should have worded it thus, viz. Magistracy and Government we own to [...] Gods Ordinance, so far as we (or Christ in us) [...]ave the Command of it, because we know no People [...]se, that so own and witness Christ to Rule. So that [...]hen such men rule, 'tis no more them that Rule, [...]t Jesus Christ alone (as above G. F. intimates) [...]e present Government being but a dead loath­ [...]om Form. As T. Ellwood ( Sam Jenings intimate [...]rother) says, in his Alarm, p. 6. Did you not [...] says he) make a solemn Covenant with God, That [...] would Extirpate Episcopacy, that Dead Loath­ [...]m Form? Did you not spew it up? And will you [...]n again, and lick up your old Vomit? O do not [...]ol do not run willfully into Destruction again. We [...] Misery to the Ʋpholders of the Priests of the World, [ i. e. the Rulers, for 'tis they that uphold [...]he Priests.]

Again, G. Fox, in his Book called, Papers given [...]orth to the Heads, &c. p. 9. saith, Are not all [...]hose that will dote so much on an Earthly King TRAITORS against Christ? Neither do you [...]ad (saith he that there were any Kings since the Apostles days, but among the Apostate Christians and false Church. Christ is King alone, and makes his Disciples Saints, Kings and Priests, to reign upon [Page 80]the Earth: These are true Christians, and will these have any more Kings among them but Christ? They are out o [...] the Life and Power that make such work for an Earthly KING, and EARTHLY POWERS.

Come, Mark that, W P [...]nn, with thy Industry in getting Grant after Grant for Kingly and Earthly Power. And Mark that, S. Jenings, wh [...] sa [...]dst to the Seperates, [not long before the second time thy Horns were cut from pushing with Kingly or Earthly Power] VVe will take car [...] that you shall not be our Judges. And Mark that my old Friends in general, with your diligence t [...] engross and keep what hold you can on Earthly Power. And behold your Apostacy!

Now had not the Wheel been so turned about that S. J. and his Brethren have lost the antient Marks of simple hearted Quakers, what need he us [...] such craft, to pretend to own what they really d [...] not? or are they sensible how they are fallen from their antient Principles, and now see their forme [...] Weaknesses, why then are they too Proud o [...] ashamed to follow the Example of good men in all Ages, to confess and repent, and leave a Memo­rial thereof to Posterit [...], as they have done. O [...] I know the reason; this they cannot yet do! for then down goes their great pretence to Infal­lability.

Lastly, W.P. Address to Protestants, p 234. [...] we will give antient Story credit (saith he) we shall [Page 81]find, that worldly Weapons were never imployed by the Christian Church till she became Worldly, and so [...]ast to be truly Christian: But why should I say the Church? her Leaders have taught her to ERR. I [...]onfess had not antient Story informed me, that [...] Christian Societies have apostatized, when [...]ey grew numerous, I should have admired at [...]is passage, that the same W. P. should in so few [...]ars after he wrote it, nor only fall into that [...]postacy himself, but also draw many more with [...]m. But some think W. P. has wit enough to [...]ke out to all that see with his Eyes, that the [...]ord of the Magistrate, viz. Constables Staves, [...]eriffs Weapons, Stocks, Prisons and Gallows are [...]ot woridly Weapons, but Spiritual Weapons, [...]en used by Quakers. But however, tho' he [...]s shewed the whole Church of the Quakers concerned in Governments about Delaware, are [...]ast to be Christian, yet he confesseth himself (as [...]ne Leader) to be the cause of it; for he saith, [...]er Leaders, have taught her to Err.

CHAP. IX. Of Persecution and Prosecution.

VIndication of the Quakers Principles, p. 55. says, VVe bear Indignities and Injuries, and being [Page 82]reviled, they revile not again; and we resist not evil, nor are we in Revenge, but leave it to the Lord, whose Vengeance is, and he will repay it.

But Sam Jenings in his State of the Case, p. [...] alledges, That they could do no less than prosecute and fine G. K. and T. B. without the violation of their Trust to the King. O trusty Trojan since the days of Edw. Billing.

Therefore Sam. Jenings must now make their antient Principles to speak thus, viz. We bear Indignities and Injuries when we have no Power to Revenge them; and we leave Vengeance with the Lord, when we are not trusted with Power by the King to take Vengeance our selves. And thus S. Jenings and his Brethren, Apostate-like, have lost (if ever they had) the pretended innocent Nature of the Quakers, and are in the Fall, and Unredeemed; for so they say in their Catechism, by W. S. 'Tis the disposition of OUR NATURE not to seek Revenge, though we do suffer Wrong; for the Revenging Nature is in the Fall; but it is not so with us whom God hath redeemed, &c. Beside, let S. Jenings compare their late Practice with their old Principle about Contending and Suing at Law; see Possession of the living Faith, p 7. It was NEVER the Faith of Christ to Sue, Contend, &c. thus S. J. and his Brother Preachers about Delaware, yea, and Hearers too [like Preachers, like People] are Apostate [...], and have not the Faith of Christ, by their own plain Rules; for the same Principle [Page 83]is held forth by R. H. G. F. G. W. E. B. and others.

Again, I observe S. Jenings tells that the reason of T. B. and G. K. being prosecuted, was for saying, Sam Jenings was too high and imperious in worldly Courts, and ca [...]sing him ignorant, presump­tuous and insolent. N [...]w is not Sam. Jenings here blinded by a sordid persecuting Sp [...]rit, that thus has the face to publish this to the wo [...]ld, seeing it is yet to be read in the Books of the [...]ryals of W. P. W. M. M. F. G. W. and others, that they accuse the Magistrates in England most severely with Injustice, Oppression, Wic [...]edness & Corruption, and yet these Magistrates did [...]ot punish them for that; nor was G. F. punished for telling, Justice Bennet, He was a shame to the Government, as in the Book called, West to North, &c Th [...]s [...]h [...]ws the Magistrates in England more No [...]l [...], more Chri­stian, and far more f [...]ee from a Revengeful Perse­cuting Spirit, than these Quakers, wh [...] cannot bear to be ca [...]led, Ignorant, Presumptuous and I [...]o­lent (though by m [...]no [...] their own [...]en [...]mination, nor spoken when exe [...]c [...]ing his Magistratical Of­fice, but in Controve [...]ies about Religious matters) without taking Revenge on their Persons. But hear what G. F. says of such in Gr. M [...]tery, pag. 125. 366. You are inwardly ravened (saith [...]e) that strike at the Creatures — and to cause People to be put in Prison, and to be perse [...]ted, and have their Goods taken away, such are disorderly Teachers, and [Page 84]shall be rooted our And so far they are self-con­demne [...] Apostates, by their antient Testimonies, so their actions in Pennsilvania. Witness their imprisoning John M [...]Combe when his Wife was but two days delivered of a Child, and in danger of Death, by a Flux, and another of his Family sick also, that dyed in a short time after, and yet he could not prevail so much as to go home to take leave of his Wife, or set his House in order, tho' earnestly desired by him, promising to appear at any time when they should require him; No, that favour could not be gran [...]ed, but to Priso [...] he must g [...], altho' Humphry Murrey, the Mayor and chief Magistrate of the place, offered to be bayl for him, at which Sam Jenings raged, and bitterly reflected upon him, for that he knew his place no better. And what was all this for? surely some he [...]uous Crime, one would think; why, 'twas nor more nor less than for letting a person have two of the printed Appeals to the yearly Meeting (put forth by G. K. &c.) for 2 d. piece, as they cost him. But surely some Seditious mat­ter was contained in this single Sheet; why, the matter they were so offended at, was an Article, wherein it was queried, Whether some Magi­strates, called nakers, at Philadelphia, did not act contrary to the Qrs. Principles, in commissionating one hiring men to fight. And for this they not only imprisoned him, but did what they could other ways to ruin him, by taking away his Lisence [Page 85]which he had to keep an Ordinary, that cost him 3 l 12 s. And yet, like Preachers, like People so dark are many of them, to say, This was not any thing like Persecution, tho' no Law had this poor man broken, nor did they so much as pretend he had broken any Law.

Also, the Imprisoning William Bradsord, and taking away his very Tools that he should get maintenance for his Family by, contrary to the Law of England, so justly pleaded by him, he be­ing one of the Kings Subjects Also, their imprisoning Peter Boss, till Provi­dence put the Government into the hands of Coll. Fletcher, Governour of New-York, who released him our of Prison. And pray what was his Crime? Why, 'twas for writing a Letter to Sam Jenings, querying about several Miscarriages reported of him, as inserted in p. 59▪ State of the case, and among the rest, Whether S. J. was not drunk? In the Tryal of which D. Lloyd being Attorney, pleaded for S. J. and read a Case out of an old Law Book, to this effect, That tho' a Bishop was seen to be drunk, yet was not to be reproved. He also produced an Act against W. Brad [...]ord made in the reign of K. James 2d against printing Books with­out puting the Printers Name to them, which they alledged W. B had done, and not put his Name to the printed Appeal (tho' the Authors Names were affixed thereto.) Well, to Tryal W. B. was brought, D. Lloyd pleaded hard against [Page 86]him, the Jury had their Charge given by S. Jenings, out they went to tr [...] this [...]ime, but it happening so, that there was two or three upon the jury that were not Quakers, they stood upon the Nicet [...] as some of their fellow jurors call'd it, of two Evi­dences, to prove that W. B. printed said Appeal, which not appearing, after about 48 hours the Jury came into (ou [...]t, and told the Bench, they were not like to ag [...]ee. To whom A Cook made this learned Speech, viz. Well, seeing, Friends that you are not like to agree, you are Absolved from your [...]est or Oath) and are discharged; and we will have another Jury that shall agree, and find the Bill. But before another Court, the Government was cha [...]ged, W. Bradford discharged from his the V [...]ngence which they intended.

And yet for all this, these degenerate Quakers with not believe these manifest Truths, known to so m [...]ny, but th [...]'ll believe Sam Jenings Book of Law, who in his P [...]eface, would make People be­liev [...], That the Report of these mens Sufferings is [...]t Sham p [...]t upon the VVorld, and so far from an [...]hing like Pe [...]secution, that it was only Sport and Play; and I'il warrant him, can make Drave Ora­tio [...] [...] in hi [...] Preaching too. 'Twas Prosecution, s [...]s [...], and not Persecution, see state of the case, p 45 Just so also the New-England Priests say, what they did to the Quakers was Prosecution, and not P [...]rsecuti [...]n, see the Book, called, New-England judged.

But there was a man punished for taking away an Hour-glass from a Priest, and this G. Fox calls Persecution, in his Instructions, &c. p. 30. Behold! is there greater Blindness and Partiality to be found in the whole World, than is among these Quakers, that call punishment, for breach of just Laws, Persecution, and yet when they punish men, who have broke no Law, they say, that's no such thing as Persecution▪ but Prosecution.

And though the Quakers have all along made such a great Noise and continual Cryes to the Rulers, complaining of their great and grievous Sufferings by Persecution, even in so much, that they have declared to the World, That thei [...] Suf­ferings have been greater Sufferings, and more Ʋnjust [...]han the Sufferings of Christ, or his Apostles, or of my others since the Apostles days, as in p. 273. of Edw. Burroughs Works; which passage was lately [...]astified in the City Mercury or News Book, by 24 Quakers at London▪ And yet themselves scarce [...]ny sooner mounted into the Seat of Government, [...]ut they fell to persecuting one another, till Pro­ [...]idence stopt them, by the Government being [...]aken from them. Therefore they bein [...] a con­ [...]derable People for Number in some places, the [...]ing and Parliament had great Reason to make [...]hat Law which was made last year, That no Quaker or reputed Quaker shall serve on any Juries, [...] bear any Office or place of Profit in the Government. Thus though they may see what their ill Manners in

[...]ennsilvania has brought on them; yet on the other hand they may take it as a blessing unto them, they being a People not qualified for Go­vernment, especially in respect of Principles antiently delivered; for when T. Budd declared the Duty of Magistrates, in his Book, called, Good Order, &c. p. 34. viz. I do believe it to be both lawful and expedient (saith he) to bring Offen­ders to Justice by the Power of the Magistrates Sword, which is not to be used in vain, &c Hear how G. Fox condemns him for this, in a Letter to Pennsilvania, which Letter I have by me, to shew upon occasion; his words are these, Dear Friends, R F [...]well and A. Cook, Remember me to T. Budd, and tell him, he gave forth a Book, which grieves the honest hearted, and some dirty Spirits have got ad­vantage, and how that it Thwarts our antient Prin­cipl [...]s, that part concerning Magistracy, p. 34. i [...] w [...] l [...]ld upon W. Penn; but he is clear of it. And he c [...] not do well to print it, and spread it, for Friend [...]ere will not sell it — but stopt it — let him write over b [...]t [...]r for Friends to call it in again. So with my love,

G. Fox.

Yet s [...]ch miserable Darkness has over-spread those Quakers a [...] Delaware, that they see not thei [...] Apostacy herein. Nor indeed how should they s [...]ing the Yearly Meeting at London did not find i [...] proper or fir to condemn these Practices, no [...] to put the Actors upon condemning it; No, no so much as that of their g [...]ving a Commission, and [Page 89]hiring men for a hundred Pound, and furnishing them with Arms and Ammunition, to recover a Sloop that Babit and his Mon had stole from Phi­ladelphia harbour; tho' it was an Action to the furthest extent that those words in T. Bada Book could reach, as all that reads the same may see.

Hence 'tis plain, that the whole Body in general are now so far Apostatized herein, that they en­courage their Brethren to grieve the honest heart­ed, give dirty Spirits advant [...]ge, and thwart their antient Principles, unless they will say. G. F. is a Lyar, whom they call, The Father of many Na­tions see W. P 's Rejoynder, p 354.

But to shew further of my old Friends Apostacy in this particlar, R. Barclay in his Apology, p. 399. 407. says, As to what relates to the Magistrates of the Christian World, albeit we deny them not the Name of Christians, because of the publick Profession they make of Christs Name, yet we may boldly affirm, that they are far from the perfection of Christian Religion, because of the state in which they are, they have not come to the pure Dispensation of the Gospel. But for such whom Christ hath brought hither, it is not lawful to defend themselves by Arms, but ought over all to trust in the Lord Thus this Doctrine of R. B. runs almost parrallel with that of W. P. before cited, only he unchristians the whole Body of his Friends concerned in Government; but R. B 's sentence is only on the Magistrates; of which, let those that are Preachers look to it, and study the [Page 90]most effectual means to keep their Hearers from reading such things as these, so dangerous for then discovery.

Come on my old Friends yet a little further, I wish you were as willing to see your Apostacy, as I am to shew you Read your Antient Principle of disallowing to go to Law, and being no Con­tenders, Patronized by G. F. G. W. and E. Bur. in p. 23. of R. Huberthorns Works.

Priests says, Many Diffrences may arise which can­not well be decided without going to Law. R H. Replys, Thou dost allow of going to Law, which the Apostle did not, and he was a Minister of Christ; and here thou hast shewed, thou art none—and who are come to the Doctrine of Christ, which is Yea and Nay, there is NO DIFFERENCE, They need NO GOING TO LAW, there is NO CONTEN­TION; and many Differences are in thy Generation, which is without Christ and his Doctrine, which many of you Sue men at the Law. — And here openly I charge you all in the presence of the living God, to be no Ministers of Christ. O when will you blush for calling all but your selves No Ministers of Christ, no Professors of Truth! All that joyn not with you, or believe not as you believe, you say, do not own Truth, or profess Truth. But I appeal to Gods Witness in all your Consciences, whether this Priest was not a betrer Owner of Truth, or Professor of Truth than you? for his Doctrine and Practice agrees, but your Doctrine is one, and [Page 91]your Practice another; contrary to Truth, double [...]ded men. Therefore condemn our antient Doctrine in your Book, caked, The Quakers [...]lenge, p. 3 viz. The Quakers are in the Truth, NONE but they. And O learn to be more [...]ritable!

CHAP. X. [...]ends Sufferings to be recorded by London Meeting.

[...]RIENDS;

THis is in some sense to answer your Request; for I have met with some Papers sent from [...]or Meeting at London, wherein you frequently for all Friends Sufferings to be sent in to be orded. Therefore I shall here set down the [...]ferings of some Friends about Delaware, called, [...]erate Quaekers, and request your care, that [...]en you meet with this Account, together with [...]aforesaid Imprisonments, &c. to Record the [...]e, as you do others, if you are impartial men, [...] if not, pray let them alone.

In the Year 1695. A. Smith, W. Budd and W. [...]inson in West Jarsey, for cons [...]ientiously refu­ [...]g to serve on Jurys, were fined by the Court, which a Gun was taken from A.S. and a stitch [Page 92]of Bacon from W. B. But by the Sheriffs pleading for VV. A. being poor, he got his Fine remitted. [ Note, This Sheriff is a Baptist, and he declined the Office of Sheriff, and refused to serve, rather than so to take awa [...] his Neighbours goods for matter of Conscience; but those Seperates have not met with so much Christianity in any of their old Friends, that have been so concerned in Office. Pray let your London Meeting take Notice of that, and order those Ministers that come from you to visit them, to do what they can to recommend the Virtue of Love to your Brethren here; for all that have hither to come, has set them still more in Opposition against the S [...]perates, and have increased Envy instead of Love; and are so far from counting the Soperates to be any of the lost Sheep of the House of Israel, whom Christs Ministers should seek after, that they call them Amaleck, & exhort one another to smite Amaleck, and yet like Cowards, never come at them; or like Cocks crowing on their own Dunghills, they do it only in their own Meeting-houses among their own Friends; and he that's most ingenuous at comparing G. Keith and his Friends to the worst of Men and Devils they can find named in the whole Bible, he's an excellent Prea [...]her, and fol­lowed from Meeting to Meeting many Miles, and of this Truth, my own Eyes and Ears are witness.

In the years 1694, & 95. Ralph Ward, a poor Friend at Philadelphia, was several times fined for [Page 93] [...]nscientiously refusing to serve on Juries, and had [...]oods taken from him to the value of 4 l. 6 d. [...] which he complained to the Governoar and [...]ouncil, but had no Relief. The Members of [...]ouncil present were S. Carpenter, S. Richardson, [...] Morris, C. Pusey, D. Lloyd, all Quakers.

At a Court at Burlington, 3d Mo. 1697. Daniel [...]con was fined 10 s. by Quaker Justices only, for [...]fusing to serve on a Jury, tho' he pleaded both [...]iberty of Conscience and the Law lately made in [...]ngland, which says, No Quaker or repured Quaker [...]ll serve on any Jury, nor bear any Office of Profit in [...] Government.

Now here take Notice, The Quakers in England [...]sed to plead with the Rulers, against the Kings [...]aws, for Liberty of Conscience. But now being [...]ot into the Saddle of Government, and being Rulers themselves, they deny Liberty of Conscience [...]o others, that plead FOR the Kings Laws for [...]iberty of Conscience. Let my old Friends at London consider that, and whether 'tis not. Time [...]ow to cry out, as Sam. Fisher once did, p. 144. [...] Gross, Horrid, Hideous and Sordid!

Also, several Friends in East and West-Jersey had Goods taken from them for not answering sumons to Courts, & also for refusing to pay a Tax raised to pay Souldiers wages. Where Note, the Qua­kers in East-Jersey, who were in Unity with their persecuting Brethren at Philidelphia, paid this Tax either directly or indirectly, which was to [Page 94]pay Souldiers wages. I shall give no perticula [...] account of these di bress [...]s, believing the rest are more than you wi [...]l Record; but I canno [...] wel [...] omit, to in [...]tance one more, and leave it and th [...] rest to your Consideration. And that is,

Jo [...] Wood, one of your Brethren, a Preacher [...] Gl [...]ucester County in V [...]st-Jersey, being Sheriff o [...] that County, came with men armed to tak [...] Goods from John Roberts at Pensoaken, & sent tw [...] men before, who pr [...]tended they had lost their way of w [...]ich the said Joh. Roberts & h [...] Wife took pit and gav [...] [...]nen meat to eat. Soon after they espie [...] Wood coming with his Company, wherefor [...] Roberts made fast the Door, but Wood told him he had those within that would do his business they seeing him so treacherous, opened the Door this Wood when came in offered his hand: Rober [...] said, if he came as a Friend it was well. But sa [...] Wood, I come not as John Wood the Preacher, b [...] as the Sheriff of Gloucester. [Now by the way observe, that in the case between G. R. & the Magistrates at Philadelphia, those Magistrates coul [...] not find how to distinguish between Magistrates [...] Quakers or Preachers, but here you see thei [...] Brother J W. had the art to do it.]

But his J. VVood proceeded, and took severa [...] sorts of Goods in use in the house, among whi [...] was a Warming pan, which the woman earnestl [...] desired him to leave by reason of the great u [...] themselves and the Nighbours had of it, in cas [...] [Page 95]of Sickness or Child-bed (there being none there [...]bout except that) But she could not prevail with this VVood, but away he carried, it and soon after this Roberts sell sick, and beginning to Re­cover again, he sate [...]pone day; but at night going [...]o his Cold Bed (for want of the p [...]n to warm it being Winter) th [...] cold Bed made such impression [...]on him, that his speech was soon taken away, which he did not recover again, but dyed in a [...]w days; and what trouble this was to the Wid­ [...]ow, the Neighbours can tell how much she im­ [...]ted the death of her Husband to the want of the [...]n, which she could not perswade this Wood to [...]ave, tho' she offered him to take any other thing [...]stead of it.

Note, the occasion of this Distress was only, [...]or not answering a Summons to Gloucester Court, when the Court at Burlington required the same, [...]he place having been some years in contest be­ [...]ween the wo Counties about the bounds, not de­ [...]ded which County it belonged to.

Come you London Friends [to say no more of he. Inhumanity of this Action of a Preaching Quaker] can you parrellel this in the whole World, that over a pre [...]ended Gospel Minister [...]ook the Office of sheriff before! W. Penn cites [...]lenty of old Authors in most of his Books, pray [...]t him to search all the Rusty Authors to see if he [...]an find a President, and if he can find none, you [...]ay Record this for one, if you please; for the [Page 96]said Roberts was an honest Friend of your Society, and I being with him in his sickness, that very day that he sat up, as aforesaid, he desired me to publish this Preachers Action to the World, and so far have I now fullfi [...]led the Will of the deceased, a [...] also the Desire of his Widdow and Neighbours since his Death.

Now, perhaps some for want of other Falsity to accuse me of, will say I Taunt or Scoff: But what would such sa [...], if I should use such Airy Expressions as hat eminent Friend Sam. Fisher has done in his Rusticus ad Accademico [...], viz. As the Fool thinketh, so the Clock Clirketh; The Cat wink [...] when both her Eyes were shat; The Wheel-barrow runs Rumble to Ramble; A Tale of a Tub with the bottom out; Tittle Tattle, Twittle Twattle; Whirle-gig [...], Flim-flams, Gim-oracks, Hog-styes; Bumble-bee Propositions, Magpye Premises, Roaring Meggs; Thundering Canons to frighten poor fools, &c. This was Sam. Fishers phrase in writing Religious mat­ters, and re-printer for Posterity by the lisence of the 2d Days Meeting in London. And W-Penni in his Testimony before that Book, makes the Scriptures their Rule for this stuff too, and cites 1 Kings 18.27. of Elijah's words to Baal's Priests. Thus I see how far I should be Justified were of their Society. Though the same W. P. with his t'other Tongue is so far from owning the Scriptures for their Rule, that both he and S. Fisher (as is before shewed) would make them unsit for [Page 97]any Rule at all in any case, by rendering them Ʋncertain, &c. Therefore pray ask W. P by what Rule he knows any such word were spoke. as recorded, 1 Kings 18. seeing he holds the Scrip­tures so Uncertain? Doubtless he is as able to give an answer, as if he had served seven years at Rome, as G. W. tells the Baptists, in his Quakers plainness, p. 31.

CHAP XI. Of Swearing.

IN W. Penn's Book, called, Reason against Railing, p. 41. the Question is thus put, How could you now that Swearing in any case were unlawful, if it had not been written, Swear not at all? Is not then the Scripture your Rule in this case?

W. Penn there answers, This shews the Ignorance [...]f Tho. Hicks in the Writings of the best Gentiles, [...]nd his acknowledgment of the Light's sufficiency, in [...]ase we are able to prove Swearing disallowable before Christ came in the flesh. The seven wise men, (saith [...]) famous among the Greeks 500 years before Christ [...]ome in the flesh esteemed Swearing but a Remedy [...]gainst Corruption.

Now observe, does not this plainly shew, that [...]y held Swearing not only allowable, but also [Page 98]good to be used; for what good men would not use means to remedy Corruption? was not W. P. dot [...]sh when he brought this Instance to prove the Light sufficient (without the knowledge of what is written, to shew men they should not swea [...]? B [...]ndes, was it likely that the Light o [...] Law in the best Gentiles would [...]o [...] bid a [...] Swearing at the same time when the Law (outward) was in force, that allowed and commanded Swearing? or that the Gentiles had a sight beyond the Prophets, who never did forbid such Swearing, but on the con­trary commanded it, Jer. 4 2.

Another Instance W P brings, is, That Socrates said, There is a Life more fi [...]m and unquestionable than an Oath.

I Answ. Does not the Law hold forth the same, viz. that here is no need of an Oath among men that live a life unquestionable, or out of S [...]rite? for an Oath was for reconciling and put­ting an end to st [...]fe; so that this of Socrates was so far from sa [...]ing, Sware not at all, that it says as the [...]aw says; an evidence of what Paul said, That the Gem [...]les did by Nature the things contained in the Law. Now l [...]t wise men judge how far W. P. has proved the Light sufficient to shew men they should not swear, without knowing the written Command of Christ. And does not W. P. also confound himself in accusing T. Hicks of Igno­rance? for if we ask him, who they be that live an unquestionable Life? he shews us that the Saints [Page 99]do not; for in Rejoynder, p 175 he says, The Saints shall judge the World, and much more by [...] Judg­ment determine or reconcile things among themselves. Thus seeing the Saints live not a life unquestion­able, but that they need to have things judged and reconciled, how much less do others?

But more particular of Swearing, W. P. and R. R. in their Treatise of Oathes, put out in the Na [...]e of the Quakers, p 46. cites this Passage, viz. They Swear in God, or to God, or by God, who fromise an inviolable Obedience of Mind to him.

Now, to say, I solemnly Promise or Declare in [...]he Presence of Almighty God, &c. is a ca [...]i [...]g upon God to [...]e a Witness to the Truth of the Testi­mony given, which in p 17. they look upon to [...]e no less than a presumptuous Tempting of God to immo [...]s him to be a Witness not only to our Terrene, it Trivial Business. These are their express [...]ords. And yet are they now so far apostatized [...]ad fallen from their antient Yea and Nay, that [...]is is the Oath that the Quakers have used under [...]e new Name of a Test, especially in W. Pen [...]'s [...]rovince of Pennsilvania till of late, that G K. [...]d his Friends bore Te [...]mony against it. And [...]f now in England they have got it confirmed by [...]w, as l' [...] shew a [...]on.

But to proceed; In pag. 68 they cite, That it [...]evil to compell, not only to Swear by God, but by [...]r things. But how do they here condemn them­ [...]ves? for in their Courts about Delaware have [Page 100]seen Quakers give & command the English formal Oath to be given to those that were not Quakers. And yet for this very thing they condemn J. Perrot as an Apostate, in their Book, called, A loving In­vitation, p 8. because when he was Clerk of a Court, he gave some People the Oath. Yet be­hold! now their Brother Da. Lloyd can do the like, and be accounted no Apostate.

Again, in the Book of the Tryal of O. Whithead and T. Burr at Norwich, p. 28, 29. the Recorder threatning to Praemunire them unless they would take the formal Oath, We are ready and willing (says G. W.) to sign this est or Declaration, viz. I do in the Presence of Almighty God solemnly de­clare, &c. I do hereby faithfully promise, by Gods help, &c. Note, This they declare in p. 82. to be the Substance of the Oath, which they then offer­ed to sigh; and kissing the Book, and saying, I swear, they there call the Ceremony and Circum­stance; so it seems they can now dispence with swallowing the Substance, for they there say, They conscientiously scruple the Ceremony and Circumstance, to say, I Swear, and kiss the Book; as much as to say, We offer to swear, but cannot in Conscience say I Swear [Behold the Hypocrasie!] He sur­ [...]er adds, That he is willing to sign such Declara­tion of his Duty of Allegiance, if he may not otherways be believed. Mark, If they may not be believed b [...] [...]ing Yea of Nay, they'll do that now which [...] more, rather than he praemunired. I confess [Page 101] [...]hat would have been hard, but why then have they bound themselves up to Yea or Nay, by [...]rinting so much in denyal of Swearing, if they cannot defend it by Suffering, out will Apostatize rather than Suffer.

Lastly, in p. 35. their Keepers pulling the [...] from the Bar, to have them to Prison again, I ak [...] t [...]ce says G. W. to the Court) we have not yet refused the Oath, being not duly nor regularly brought upon the point, &c. Behold! could any man know­ [...]g the Quakers. Faith about Swearing, ever have expected to hear such a word to come out of the mouths of Quakers, and a chief Leader espcially I were it not better to be plain, as chose Quakers have been, whose Names are R [...]corded in th [...] Court of Chancery, London, for taking the form [...]d Oath? for this Hypocrifie has but caused some to publish in print, That the Quakers can work Miracles. for they can take an Oath, and yet not Swear at all.

And G W. in said Book, shews, That he and some other Quakers did Petition to the Parliament to have the aforesaid Test established by Law, for the Quakers to take instead of an Oath. So the Parliament did last year grant their Request, and confirmed it by Law in these words, viz. [ I A. B. do declare in the Presence of Almighty God, the Witness of the Truth of what I say] This is the Quakers Oath, that they call a Test, now made into a Law, according to their desire Behold now, what's become of their antient Yea or Nay! Ca [...] they [Page 102]now say this is no more than Yea or Nay? Pray what is become of their tender Consciences, that cannot Swear, and yet can swallow down this T [...]t with [...]ucscruple? Than which no Oath in the World can be greater, or more binding; yea, were I read in History, I doubt not but I could prove this T [...]st to be the very form of Oath used in some other N [...]ion And thus far these Quakers are fallen from what the formerly profest, as before cited, and can now stretch their Consciences, by using G. White [...]ea [...]t's Art of Otherways wording the matter. If this be the effect of W. P 's Light, that (without the knowledge of what is written) shews them they should not swear, sure 'tis now become Darkness, as their Term is to others. And yet I cannot see how they can use that Term without Blasphemy, seeing they say, the Light within is Christ and God; for I am sure God and Christ can never be Darkness.

CHAP. XII. Of Fighting, Swearing and paying Tythes.

THe Quakers having denyed Jesus of Nazareth to be the Saviour of the World, and to be in Heaven glorified in the true Nature of Man, both in their antient Books, as is before shewed, [Page 103]and now being charged with the same, and the Persons so accusing o [...] cha [...]ging them having prof­fered to prove the same u [...]on them at any publick Meeting they shall think fit to appoint, yet they refuse to hear with that Ear; and (knowing their guilt in the case) notwithstanding their former Challanges made by them in Print, To disp [...]te with [...] sorts of Professors, yet now they use all their skill to evade and shift from being brought to the point, but cry out they are belyed and wronged. Wh [...]ef [...]e some Preachers, particularly J. Dick­ [...]n and S. Je [...]ings have now found out a new Ar­gument to prove to their Hearers that they are [...]ndeed holy'd and that is, That their refusing to [...]ay lythes, [...]o [...]ight and to Swear, are three Proofs [...]hat they own Jesus to be Christ, and therefore t [...]ey [...]re falsl [...] accused.

Now suppose they had not in the least fallen [...]om their antient Testimony against Swearing, [...]ighting and paying Tythes, yet to what a low [...]ob are these spiritualized Persons now come, who [...]awing all along declared themselves to be The [...]nly Ministers of Christ, should be now driven to [...]eir shifts as to fly to outward Marks to demon­rate their Christianity, especially in that they themselves say, That any Man may keep to outward observations and yet be no Christian. But they have [...]t kept to their antient Testi [...]ony against these either, but are Apostatized, as is before shew [...]d [...]u [...]erning, Swearing, wherein they have only [Page 104]drest up the Oath in a new Garb, and call it a Test, they now see cause so to word the matter.

And then as to Fighting, that little Time they have had the Government in Pennsilvania has given the world sufficient Proof how far they may be trusted to be true to their Principles therein. And they being the commanding parts of the As­semblies [...]oth there and in Jersey, rather than let go the hold they have of the Government, what shifts have they made in raising Money to be im­ployed to secure and defend the Provinces from the French and Indians, by using G. Whiteheads Craft aforesaid, of Otherways wording the Laws & Orders they have made for raising such Money. So that instead of declaring the Duty of Rulers, (in case of Defence) by words of Truth, they have only exchanged their Old Testimony for New Hypocrisie. As for Instance,

When the present Governour presented a Bill to the Assembly of West-Jarsey to raise a Fund or Sum of Money to be imployed to secure and de­fend the Province from the Enemy, not one Quaker in the Assembly would touch with it; but so soon as a new Bill for the same thing was framed, Other­ways worded, then not one Quaker opposed it, but gave his Vote for it, and so it passed into a Law; but it was otherways worded, tho' they intended the same thing.

Next, let us step over into the Government of Pennsilvania, where in the year 1695. we find [Page 105] [...]oll. Benjamin Fletcher, then Governour of that Province, pressing upon the Assembly to raise a fund for his Majesties Service, towards securing the Province from the French and Indians, but this they could not do, No, it was against their tender Consciences, contrary to their antient [...]estimony and Principle; and so no Fund was raised. But the next year W. Penn got the Government into his [...]ands again, and then the Assembly meets again, and now they must do something towards main­taining the Fronteers at Albany, or lose their be­ [...]oved Honour of having the Government: for [...]he Queen had commanded it, and W. P. had [...]ngaged to comply therewith: Well, to work [...]hey went, and soon found a new Name for their [...]ct, and then couragiously raise Three Hundred Pounds for the Indians at Albany, and starcht D [...] ­bloyd is sent to New-York with it, to pay it to Governour Fletcher, for the use afo [...]esaid; for [...]ow it was not against their tender Consciences▪ why so? because they had Otherways worded the Act, yet intended is for the same Ʋse.

I had almost forgot to mention, how one Babie [...]his Company in the Year 1692. stole a Sloop from Philadelphia, upon Notice of which the Qua­tis very speedily got a Company of Men together, [...]archt the Town for Arms, supplyed them with [...]uns, Swords, Powder and Lead, and gave them Commission, and hired them for 100 l. to Re­ [...]over the Sloop from said Privateers, which they [Page 106]did, and Sam. Carpenter paid down the 100 l. to the men, and t [...]e [...]ss [...]bly has since voted it to be a Debt of the Province.

Well, as they were Magistrates they were ob­liged to do all this. But he that reads the several fore-going quotations out of their Books concern­ing Christ, and also considers these matter of fact concerning fighting, acted in the face of the Sun, may [...]afely conclude, That the Quakers own Jesus to be Christ, just so as they testifie against Fighting.

Friends and Neighbours, your LEADERS are so unwilling to be discovered in these things, that ten to one but they will tell you this which I have asserted about W. P 's Grant or Commission, is a Lye, as their usual manner is in other things. And if they tell, [...] so, I know no Remedy, but you must believe them, so long as you see with their Eves; for S. Jennings informed me that it was a Lye, and truly I believed him, till by chance I came to read it my self, &c. and so found him to be the Lyar in the case. And thus by searching out things my self I came to discover now blindly I was (and you are) led on and deluded wi [...]h such Religious Lyes (it I may so call them) For W. P. says in his Address to Protestants, That 'tis the Leaders that teach the People to Err. And S. Fisher says ( Rusticus, p. 191.) of such Leaders,

That the Wheel-barrow runs Rumble to Rumble,
Therefore they'll never leave climbing up by Lyes till down they tumble.

Lastly, for refusing to pay Tythes, many honest [Page 107] Quakers have suffered much, & I do believe consci­entiously too, while many eminent amongst [...]m have (to my knowledge) used divers c [...]a [...]est [...]e Shifts to satisfy or otherways to cheat the Re­ceivers. And T. Ellwood in his Foundation of Tythes, among ten Reasons that he brings against paying Tythes, there is one to shew Tythes inconsistent with the Gospel State; And I know none in Christendom, no, not the Priests themselves, but they will deny that they take Tythes, as Tythes, but only as Maintainance for Preaching, and not as any other part of the Ceremonial Law. And the most weighty Reasons T. E. brings to shew why they refuse to pay Tythes, is, That 'tis the highest Injustice in the Priests to take Tythes of the Quakers, who neither set the Priests on work, nor like their works, nor receive their Work, calling it the Yoak of Oppression as indeed it really is so) Therefore 'tis the Um [...]asonableness & Unjustness thereof that is the ground of their re­fusing to pay Tythes, together with Coveteousness, and not that the paying Tythes is a Denyal of Christ; for T. E. is so far from charging those with breaking any Command of Christ, [or of the Apostles, who pay Tythes, that he implicity grants, they do not, in p. 5.13. So then, seeing they who day Tythes break no Command of Christ] how much less shall their refusing to pay Tythes consti­tute any to be Christians; so invalid & weak is this their greatest Proof that they own Jesus to be Christ, while their Books are standing Evidences, that they deny him. Again, the Turks and Pagans that [Page 108]are not concerned in paying Tythes, do by this their Rule own Christ to be the Saviour of the World, tho' all Christendom knows the T [...]rks Principle is to deny him so to be.

CHAP. XIII. Of MIRACLES.

JEsus Christ wrought Miracles by the Power of God, The Disciples wrought Miracles in the Name of Jesus of Nazareth. G. Fox (is said to have) wrought Miracles by the Power of God, [not a word of Jesus, in whose name the Disciples did it] This is to be seen in the Journal of G. Fox, in the third Table, under the word Miracle, which Miracles they there cite to be, She that was ready to dye, raised up again, The La [...]e made whole, The diseased restored, John Jayes Neck broke, Re­stored, &c.

Now, as to she that was ready to dye raised up. I have known a Woman recover from the poin [...] of Death at the Prayer of a Priest, who took Tyths, & such they call Conjurers, greedy Dogs, &c. Yet this was not lookt upon as a Miracle, tho' believe God might have regard to the Prayers of both G. F. and the Priest in that [...]ase.

Again, as to John Jayes Neck broke, I knew [Page 109]the man, and spoke with him afterwards, who a [...] [...]e was riding with G. F. in East-Jersey, [...]ell off his Horse and disjoynted his Neck, and G. F. seeing [...]ow it was, pulled his neck into Joynt again, and so sav'd his life; And such a thing as that many [...]ave done, yea, a Prophane man has done the like [...] [...]y knowledge.

Also in the Book, call'd A Reply to the Vindica­tion, &c. p. 14. 'tis said, Visible Miracles have [...]n done amongst us in the sight of the World, &c. [...]e also the Journal of G. F. p. 307. And had a large [...]eeting at a Constables House, on whom the Lord had [...]rought a great Miracle, &c. Note, here is neither [...]he Name of the Constable, nor the Town where [...]e dwelt, Nor what kind of Miracle it was, and also 28 years before it was published: Pray what [...]s here to induce any to believe it, but such whose saith is to take all upon trust? Let all discreet Persons consider if such things as these will not [...]arden, instead of converting the Jews; con­sidering Equality wi [...] God, see p. [...], 3. of A Brief Relation, c. confirmed in p. 67 & 127. Great Mystery, where he says, he spoke it out of all Crea­tures. And in News coming out of the North, p. 1. [...]e declares himself to be The Prophet that was pro­phesied of, &c. And S. Eccles calls him, The Pro­phet whom John was not. And G. W. and W. P. in their Books Judas and the Jews, p. 44. Serious Search, p. 58. Judgment Fixt, p. 19, 26. and in [Page 110]several other Books, justifie and excuse as wel [...] these Titles, as also, That he the said G. Fox is THE Father of many Nations, whose Being and Habitation is in the Power of the Hig [...]est, in which he Rules and Governs in Righteousness, and his King­dom is established in Peace, and the INCREASE thereof is without End, and much more to the same purpose, together with his thus being set up a Worker of Miracles too; I say, if the Jews should give equal Credit to these Things with the History of St. Luke, how will they know who is account­ed the Messiah, G. FOX or JESƲS of Nazareth, especially seeing W. Penn denys that Outward Person to be him, which suffered at Jerusalem, who was called Jesus of Nazareth, see Serious Apology, p. 146.

Good Christian Reader consider the Event and Effects of these things! Be otherwise minded than G. Whitehead is, who says. He neither consults Events, nor [...]ears Effects in what he writes; see his Introduct. to Judgment fixt. It is not high Time for some to be raised up to testifie against these Things!

But that which seemed most like a Miracle to me, and many more, as blind as I was the, was, That G. F. should have the gift of Tongues to interpr [...]t all Languages, as in his Book, called, The Battle door to the Docter [...] and Schollars, &c. when alas! it has been of late discovered, that certain Jews were hired to do it for him, and had [Page 111]80 pounds for their pains paid them by G. Roberts, besides 12 Bo [...]les of Wine over and above. And were not this Treatise swelled bigger then I in­ [...]ended, would here have shewed some Examples, [...]o prove the said Journal to be a History not fairly [...]elated, ou [...] Partial and Painted, some things [...] in, some left out, some mended and pe [...]ced, &c. But which is yet worse, if true, I have seen Sheet, called, An Essay, &c. lately put out by one T. [...]. wherein he shews that G F. in answer­ing Priests and Professors Books, f [...]stly Quoted heir words and preverted them, and took pieces of sentences, transposed the words thereof, so as to make them say another thing, that the Authors never intended, and then called them he [...]utho [...]s sayings, and so answered them; which [...] really true, must needs be judged wicked by all [...]oderate intelligent Persons. Therefore it be­ [...]oves W. P. to appear and clear G. F from this [...]ross Charge, the which if he cannot do, h [...]w [...]ainly and falsly does he say in the Preface to his [...]ournal, Many have done well, but thou, dear George [...]xcellest them ALL.

Note I mention these things, because I alway [...]s believed plainness and honest simple hearted deal­ [...]ng was the way to set up Christian Religion, and [...]ot such Craft.

But a to real and unfeigned Miracles, when we [...]ately heard a Report of two Miracles wrought [...]n London, one upon a girle, being restored sud­dainly [Page 112]from a lameness in her Limbs, which she ha [...] from her Infancy, the other of a Woman suddainly made whole from a Leprosie; I sincerely declare I was striken with a dread on my Spirit at the News, fearing I should hear that they were Peopl [...] belonging to my old Friends, the Quakers, becaus [...] I knew them to be already too much exalted in their minds above all other professors of Christi­anity, and if these Miracles should be done upon any of them, it would cause them to insult still more presumptuously; but by reading the Relation I found the one to be a French Protestant Girle, and the other a Baptist Woman, Persons (no doubt) humble enough to beg of God in their Prayers for Pardon for their Sins, as I never heard any Quakers do in more then 20 years attending their Meer­ings, &c.

Lastly, This Observation I made thereupon, which I intreat all to take Notice of, That these Miracles were wrought by or thorough a living [...]aith in Christ, as he is Jesus of Nazareth, or a Person without men, and therefore I deliver it as my sense to be an everlasting Truth, that till the Quakers close with this Faith, 'tis impossible that any real Miracles can be wrought either on them or by them.

But tho' they say (as before) that visible Mira­cles have been done among them, vet it seems by what G [...] W [...] writ in the year 1674 in Quakers plainness, p. 14. they have now lost this and other [Page 113]Evidences of the Spirit, if ever they had them; for he there says, And what if God will not bestow such Gifts and Signs now, must we therefore be no Christians? Are the Baptists willing to be thus con­ [...]luded on this ground? Now Mark, he here grants themselves to be as low, poor & empty as others, having no evident Signs or Gifts whereby it may be known they are sent of God more then other Professors. Now tho' this be such a known Truth, yet to face about again, the same G. W. (in Apost. Incend. p. 4.) lets as know. That he and his Friend are THE Church of the first born. So that as S. Fisher says, p. 748.

Sometimes 'tis one way, then Another.
Sometimes both ways, This and T'other.

CHAP. XIV. Of Life and Doctrine.

If the Trumpet gives an Ʋncertain Sound, who shall prepare himself to Battle?

1 Cor. 13.

MUCH more than formerly do my old Friends the Quakers cry out, 'Tis Life is the only thing that is our All in All; 'Tis no matter for Do­ctrine or Knowledge in this or that Principle: Away [Page 114]with Creeds and Points of Faith, so that we feel Life in our Bosoms, and flowing from V [...]ssel to Vessel.

To which I say, go then thou that counts thy self a rational Creature, and learn of so mean a t [...]ing as a Vegetable, and see if a Plant can grow (with the Life it has within it self) without Leaves. But how comes it to pass that the Quakers have written such a multitude of Books, great Volumns about Principles and Doctrine, opposing all others both Priests and Professors about points of Faith and Doctrine. And E [...] B [...]rr [...]ghs in the Name & behalf of the Quakers having made great Chal­lenges to dispute with all sorts, and any Number of People, at any Time and Place, about Prin­ciple [...] and Doctrine: Why, I say was all this, if Life had been sufficient without Doctrine? Again, if Life may be felt by those who are igno­rant of Doctrine, and that be enough, why do the advise in their Book, called, An awakening Voice, p. 15. viz. People open your Eyes, and be not so besooled with that dotish and blockish Principle, That Ignorance is the Mother of Devotion, but search the Scriptures, and try all things— Have not the most knowing Men in the World been always the most devout to God?

Note the uncertain Sound of their Trumpets; Here, it seems, Life is not sufficient without Know­ledge, and therefore they advise to search after Knowledge for Life or Devotion. And yet now in opposing others that contend for Knowledge [Page 115]in Faith and Doctrine, they cry out, Life, Life, no matter for Doctrine; C [...]eeds and Confessions of Faith (they say) came in with the Apostacy, &c. This brings to my Memory how once I heard a Priest preach so affecting a Sermon (as he com­monly did) that looking about me, I saw weep­ing Eyes on every hand, and yet this Priest was known to me and those People, to be a debaucht man, that thus caused his Hearers to feel Life, (as they accounted) in their Bosoms: even such is the Devotion of all zealous but ignorant) People, especially at the sound of a smooth and affecting Delivery of words, [...]ho believe it their Duty to keep within the Pal [...] [...]f the Church, and be content with whatsoever drops from their Preachers Mouths, so mean spirited are the Peo­ple (saith W. Penn) to take all upon trust for their Souls, see Adress to Protestants. p. 177. Here-W. P. has truly exprest the present Case; for I am livingly sensible, that there are hundreds, yea, Thousands of honest Souls at this day among the Quakers, who are afraid to hear or receive any thing from these who are out of the Unity of their Church; so far are they willingly held from obeying that good Command of the Apostle, and the Advice of one of their Leaders, (as above) To try ALL Things. And it was observed, when Tho. Musgrove, at many Meeting [...] about Dela­ware, preached, That the flesh of Christ was a constant enduring Patience, and his Blood a lively [Page 116]operating Spirit of Life, or divine operating living Love; This set many into [...] singing frame, raising Life in the Meeting (as they term it) partly in that he applyed it to oppose some Doctrine of G. K. and he preaching it as a new Opening, & they believing it so to be. When alas for them! we who have taken their own Advice before, Not to be so dotish and blockish, but have learnt to be more knowing, we know it to be not an opening of Thomas Musgrove, but a piece of an old Creed made at Constantinople in the year 1585. [Thus while they are crying out against Creeds in others, they patch up Creeds to themselves.] And fol­lowing their Advice before, we have also learned to know, that if another Minister had preached the same things to the same People, tho' a Person of as good a Life, and more sound in the Know­ledge and Faith of Christ, yet wanting either the Unity of the Church, or that faculty of gift of a fluent and affecting delivery of his words, would not raise that Life in the People at all.

But what says W. P. further to these things? Why, says he, I am amazed with what Confidence they expose their Souls. This Principle it is, and not Enquiry, that makes Men careless and unactive abo [...]t their own Salvation—'Tis not to be saved, (says he) to be within the Pale of any visible Church in the World; see Address to Protestants, p. 177. But pray why then do they publish such Doctrine in their book called, A loving Invitation, pag. 9 [Page 117]viz. That those who forsake their the Quakers) Ʋnity, and oppose them, are cut Off from Christ, Why, this has been the Sound their Rams horns, have all along made. But in p. 156. W [...] Penn plainly tells us, That the consequence of Peoples not doubting their Ministers, and not putting them upon the Proof of what they preached, has been the Intro­duction of much false Doctrine, Superstition and Formality. Here's the ground, it seems, of those false and confused Doctrines before cited, by reason of our being too long before we doubted our Ministers. And yet, now some are set to do it, how do them turn their t'other face, and Rage at them, calling them Lyars, Apostates, Wolves, Dogs, Devils Incarnate, &c.

Lastly, Though G. Whitehead in Apost. Incend. p. 4. says, He [God] hath chosen us to be his People and Church—We are the Church of the first Born, &c. Yet W. Penn says again, That to be of the Church of which Christ is Head, is quite another thing than to be of any visible Society whatsoever, see Address, p. 177. So that as I began, so I must end,

Since their Trumpets give so Ʋncertain a Sound, Who shall prepare himself to Battle?

CHAP. XV. Sabbath Day Wheel turned Round.

IN Rejoynder, p. 191. W. Penn saith To call any Day of the Week a Christian Sabbath, is not Chri­stian, but Jewish— The Apostle (saith he) makes their Observation or Preference of days, to be no less then a token of their turning from the Gospel; and Christians ought not to be judged for rejecting such Customs, &c. And pursuent to this Doctrine, some Quakers formerly have opened their Shops and followed their usual Imployments on the First Day, both in old England and else-where.

But behold how the Wheel is now turned! for the Quakers at Delaware being the command­ing parts of the Assemblies, have lately made a Law to prefer the First Day before others, calling it The Lords Day; so far are they now turned from their former Gospel, Nay, and this Law has been put in execution too in West-Jersey, and that by none others but Quakers, causing several Persons to suffer, one tryed at Court [but cleared by the Jury] after he had been im­prisoned, for doing no more on the First Day than those who prosecuted him have been fre­quently [Page 119]guilty of, viz. taking up a fettered Horse, or Mare that had strayed from him, that was in danger of being spoyled, he having been seeking the said Horse several days before 'Tis true the man was no Quaker, that thu [...] suffered for taking this pity and honest care on his Beast and himself; But what then? must they needs shew to the world, that partiality, &c. is inherent to their best sort of Apostacy? But if they now see the evil of their old Testimony of forbidding to prefer the First day before another, why do they carry a double face, and not condemn it? O but that's the way to shew themselves fallible, and so confess themselves on even ground with other Christians! here lies the pinch.

And G [...] W. is upon the same double strein too: for when T. S. asked, Whether that Quaker did not sin who sowed a Doublet on the Sabbath day? G. W. in Truth de [...]end. &c. p. 21. Replys, Where dost thou read in the Scriptures, that men must do no Work on the First Day of the week? And yet the same G. W. in his Tryal at Norwich, when the Oath was tendered to him on the First day, he excepted against it, because it was tendered on the Lords Day, as he calls the first day, in p. 26. of the Book of his Tryal; But G. W. might have seen in his Brother S. Fisher's Rusticos, that what is sawce for the Goose is sawce for the Gander also.

Here several other things come before me, of the degeneration of my old Friends, both in Faith and Practice, which for a reason best known to my self, I at present forbear to expose; for I know they think I have already done too much; and I hartily▪ wish I may never do more of this kind, but that I may be imployed hereafter in what is more delightful to me, but be it as God Almighty shall direct me; for methinks I already hear the bitter Treatment I must have from my Neighbours, my old Friends round about, far and near▪ And how the Preachers thunder out Woes and Judgments against me. But this I the less value seeing 'tis an advantage the Preachers have had in all Ages above other men, to preach their pleasure against those who offend them, and that without controul. Hark also how they caution and warn their Hearers, not to read such Books as this, whilest with their other Tongue they bid them, Try all things.

But I have faith to believe, that the Prophesies they utter against me shall be as false as [I am informed] W Pen's was against T. Hiks, viz. So sure as God liveth—The Lord will make the an Example of his [...]URY, and thy head shall not go down to the Grave in Peace, and by this shalt thou know (says he) that not a Lying nor Delusive, but a true and Infallible Spirit hath spoke by me; see Railing against Reason, p. 181. Now whether W.P. did not there bely the Spirit of God? for I [Page 121]do understand that T.H. dyed at Peace in his bed, and with gr [...]at satisfaction.

But as 'tis noted in the Title page, I am not the man that gives out things to lay open wick­edness, but that men may take warning, and fear, and come to know themselves.

AN APPENDIX.

THe case with me is just as with S. Fis [...]er, p. 736. viz. That flood of Follies and Absurdities, that Cloud of Confusions and Contradictions, which Shatters it self up and down [...] plat [...] in sundry Showers, throughout the sundry [...]ges of those mens Books, Every Eye that reads then▪ [...]as they lye at a distance] may possibly not set [...]ght of them easily; Therefore have [...]lled some [...] of them out [for the whole Number passes [...]y skill to cast account of] and [...]l [...]pt them to­ [...]ther a little closer, Not so much to sham [...] [...]h [...]m, [...] to honour the Truth, which they would shame; [...]hat they may be the more ready to be read, and [...] parent to the view of every ordinary Capacity, [...]hat any [save such as seeing will not see] may see [...] Sword of the Lord already laid on the Arm and [Page 122]right Eye of the Idol [Prophets.] Thus far S. Fisher. So I shall proceed to enlarge upon a few perticu­lars.

First, At Number 8▪ I have Noted, that G. W excuses that Blasphemy there set down o [...] S. Eccles, in Serious Search, p. 58. he undertake [...] to direct S. E's Intention in this matter, and gives us to understand that S. E. did not intend as he writ and published; for tho' he said it o [...] G [...] yet he intended it o [...]ly of Christ; so it seems he spoke o [...] writ one thing, and meant another And such a one as does so, W. P. says [in hi [...] Rebuke, p 8.] is no better then one of the wor [...] of Knaves. So here G. W. is vindicating one o [...] the worst of Knaves by his sincere hearted Bro­ther W. P 's rule. They are his own words le [...] them share the matter as well as they can betwee [...] them.

But says G. W. It is a little failure in Syntax that is to say. S E. failed a LITTLE in the Joyn­ing of his words. Thus they can excuse blas­phemy, when uttered by their own Friend [...] but if any of their Opposers do but write A so THE, You for Thou, or fail in a word, O the [...] they cry out, Forgery, Lyes, Blasphemy, an [...] what not (as I could give many instances) The it is not a little failure in [...]yntax only, whic [...] the Law of Charity would not take notice of But if a Quaker write that which is ten time worse, then they can use the Papists art to Dir [...]c [...] their Intention. Pray read else in the Book call' [...] [Page 123] [...]he Mystry of Jesuitism, begin at p. 122. and see [...] George does not here teach people how to equi­ [...]ocate exactly like the Jesuites.

Now let all Intelligent people weigh and seri­ [...]sly consider, whether this [...]e like the simplicity [...]nd single heartedness that the Quakers pretend [...]to, for them to write one thing, and say them­ [...]lves they mean Anot [...]er, or do not intend all they [...]eak or write; [or as in the Title page] see [...]use otherways to word the matter, and yet intend [...] same: just as S. Fisher says of the Priests, P. [...]7 Shameful Shiftings from sense to sense, Mis­ [...]able Marchings from Meaning to Meaning, so [...]at one can hardly know where, nor how to find them, [...] what they mean; But (says he) WE mostly or [...]ER keep to the true, honest, ordinary and plain [...]rport of the words, as they lie open and clear to [...]ERY ordinary and common Capacity, that is [...]illing to know and do the Truth. Thus far S. F. [...] it whether the Quakers do this, I lave to the [...]dgment of all Impartial Readers of this Book, [...] which take a further instance, viz.

They having in their Books called the Scrip­ [...]res Carnal, Death, Dust, Serpents Meat, &c. & [...]e of their own writings▪ they call, The Word [...] the Lord, The Word of God, The voice of W [...] [...]m, &c. G. W. in Quakers plainness, p. 71. [...]epl [...]s, That such Titles therefore have been not [...]rictly, but figuratively placed on some Books, [...] here, it seems, they do not keep to the or­dinary, [Page 124]true, honest and plain purport of the words, but they must be understood in a [...] Figura­tive sense.

Again, on the other hand, tho' the Quaker [...] one while teach, That all Figures were ended by Christ, yet G. W. directs the intention for that too, in his Timerous Reviler, p. 4. where he let us know, They do not intend All, but some, viz the Figures under the Law; And also there ju­stifies their writing or speaking in Figurativ [...] Speeches, Mataphors and Metonymyes, and defends it from Scripture. But here let G W turn back to another of his own Books call'd The Divinity of Christ, and Read these word [...] [...] Epistle (about figurative Speeches) viz W [...] charge thee [Priest Danson] shew us a Verse i [...] Scripture, that speaks such Language, and wher [...] one word may be put for anothr by Metalepses, and so leave People in doubts and Questions.

Mark Reader, does not here need some curiou [...] equivocating and otherways wording the matter to Reconcile these Doctrines & clear themselve [...] of the Guilt of what they condemn in others.

And seeing those high Titles they give thei [...] own Books are Figurative (as they say) let the [...] therefore direct the intention next time the [...] print, so as we may know, whether those Title they have given the Scriptures, are figurativ [...] too, viz. Death Dust, Carnal, Serpents Meat &c. for I cannot yet find in their Books, whe­ther [Page 125]they intend these Titles to be Figura­ [...]e or Real; for they should not leave people [...] Doubts and Questions, by putting one word [...] another, by their own Doctrine; Nay, if [...] may believe S. Fisher they do keep to the plain, [...]e, honest, ordinary Sense of the words, as [...]ey lie open and clear to common Capacities. [...] which it appears, their faith is, that the [...]riptures are Really Carnal, Death, Dust and [...]pents Meat. But then pray, what are their [...]oks? what Names can be found out or inven­ [...]d bad enough for their Books, seeing G. W. [...] Quakers plainness, p. 71. positively asserts, [...] was NEVER their intentions to bring their [...]oks in Comparison with Scriptures, but prefer [...] Scriptures before All Books [O Rare and [...]s [...]! says S. F. p. 145.]

But if on the contrary, they intend the said [...]itles given to the Scriptures, to be figurative; [...]d if G. W. be Sincere in pretending to prefer [...]e Scriptures above their Books, then surely [...]eir Books should have had the worser Titles, [...]d the Scriptures the better Title.

Good Reader weigh this point well; for if these [...]akers do not really and indeed prefer their [...]wn Books above the Bible, why can they not [...]ll the Scriptures, The Word of the Lord, or Word God, in a figurative sense, as well as call their [...]n Books so in a figurative sense?

Therefore I am bold to affirm it, as my real [Page 126]sense, that those late confessions they have made, in Pretending a preference of the Scriptures above their own Books, is gross Equivocation and Hy [...]ocrisie, so long as they justify their old Doctrine in the case.

Behold! how these men deserve to be mockt as S. Fisher Mocks the Priests, viz. They sing their Old New Song to the Tune of the Truth turned out of doors, p. 726. For do but read another short in­stance also about Christ; G. F. in his great My­stery, & [...]. [as in Heb. 2.1 [...].] saith Christ, took on him the Seed of Abraham. And in p. 223. Arreign. of Popery, he saith, the Seed of Abraham is the Savi­our of the world. Thus it seems Christ took the Saviour of the World of the Virgin Mary. But if [...]hat was the Saviour that Christ took, what i [...] Christ that took that Saviour? Consider that. However, here he lets us know, that what Christ took of the V [...]gin, is both the Seed and the Saviour of the World, Both which W. P. expresly denys in Chr. Quaker, p. 97. where he largely de­clares, That 'tis the Light in man that is this Seed, and not what Christ took of the Virgin; And that this Light EVER was in ALL Ages, Sufficient and Saving, Reas. Ag. Rail. p. 16.

Now chuse R [...]ader, whether to take to this Faith published in the year 1674. by W. Penn, or that published a dozen years before by G. Fox, or their more new Faith, now published in the Year 1695. in answer to Dr. Lancaster's Que­ries [Page 127]before cited. Great is their Confusion [...]roughout their Books, especially about Christ [...] the Scriptures; and G. F. tells in his Several [...]pers for the spreading of Truth, p. 17. That [...]d is not the Author of Confusion; but such hold the [...]uth in Ʋnrighteousness.

And G. W. and his Brethren in their Books [...]quently call to Priests and Professors for Signs [...] Proofs of their Ministry, saying, Have you [...] same POWER and Spirit that gave forth the [...]riptures? see the Epist. to Divinity of Christ. [...]in, G. W. in his Enthusiasm above Atheism, [...] says, Timothy and Titus, and others who [...] GIFTS in them for the Ministry, were Ap­ [...]ved; but this is no Proof that these Opposers Mi­ [...]ers are eitheir so gifted or approved. Now, [...]y not their Opposers say the same, viz. Nei­ [...]er is it any Proof that the Quakers Ministers [...] either so gifted o [...] approved.

Again, G W. in answer to R. Baxter, p. 16. [...]never understood that they that set up these Priests, [...]e called as Peter or Paul, or the Elders who had [...]WER to lay on the Hands, that the holy Ghost [...]on the Party on whom they laid their hands [And [...], let us see but one Quaker thus called [...]].

But now take Notice, that when others de­ [...]d a Sign or Proof of the Quakers, of their [...] to the Ministry, or to prove themselves to [...]ore the Ministers of Christ than others are, [...]n they turn the t'other face, and tell them, [Page 128] That 'tis a foolish and an Adulterous Generation, seck a Sign. Thus G. W. in Quakers plainness, p. 34. Now I say, 'tis true, our Saviour did so upbraid the Jews, and might very well, for he had shewed Sign upon Sign, and wrought very many Miracles amongst them, and done many mighty Deeds before them; and yet for them to cry out for more, was indeed foolish. But what is this to the Quakers, who produce No such Miracles, No such Signs, No, No more than other Professors? Must all others therefore be a foolish Generation for asking a Sign or Proof of the Quakers, and yet the Quakers not foolish in demanding the same of others? O consider the conceited Confidence, Arrogance and Pride of these Men! I pray God give them Humility and Charity instead thereof.

But notwithstanding, though the Jews were such an Adulterous Generation, and had so many Miracles wrought before them, yet Jesus Christ promised them one Sign more, and that doubt­less was the greatest Sign of all. Therefore if these Quakers will hold to this Scripture (which they ought to do, seeing they bring it against others) they then ought to give this Adultrous Generation one sign; and that doubtless would be more convincing then all their Books, and what-ever they can say.

Of Infallibility.

VVIlliam Penn in his Rebuke to 21 Divines, p. 22 says, We are horribly abused in saying, we pretend all our Ministers to be Infal­ [...]ble.

But whether what W. P. here says be true, Read what the same W. P. says in Judas and the [...]ews, p. 43. viz. Our Ministry is of God, it stands [...]n the Power of the living spiritual Gift of God. [...]nd in A True account, &c. p. 18. says, We [...]ave Thousands at our Meetings, and none of us dare [...]peak a word, but as eternally moved of the Lord.

Now observe, That which is spoak by the [...]ternal Motion of the Lord must needs be [...]nfal­lible, or nothing is Infallibly spoke. Therefore [...] not this rather horrible falsity. Deceipt and Double dealing in W. P. &c. especially seeing [...]. W. largely declares in his Voice of Wisdom, p. 33 That they that want Infallibility are not true Ministers.

Besides, G. F. says, Their preaching is from Con­ [...]ration, that is not spoken from the Mouth of the Lord — All you that speak, and not from the Mouth [...]f the Lord are false Prophet [...] see his Ans. to the [...]est. Pet. p. 25. and Sauls [...]rrand. c. p. 7. And in Truths defence, p. 107. and News from [...]he North, P. 1. and other Books, they declare [...]hat themselves write and speak, To be from the Mouth [Page 130]of the Lord. And also in Gr. Myst. p. 267. says, The Quakers are the only Ministers of Christ▪ And E. Burroughs says, p. 318. 462. All that ever own God and Salvation, shall own us—Wee are of one Mind and one Soul.

But though I have sufficiently shewed they are not of one mind and Soul, yet here follows after more of their Temporizing Clashes, which they write suiting the Times and their own Interest, viz.

Of Temporizing.

1. G. Fox to the Parliament of the Common Weal, &c. p. 8. 1650. says, Let All those Abby Lands [...] are given to the Priests, be given to the poor of the Nation.

But facing about in 1686. W. P. in Preface to Perswasive to Moderation, says, Far be it from me to Solicite any thing in Dimunition of the just Rights of the Church of England; let her rest pro­tected where she is.

E. Burroughs, p. 105. says, You are in the Witchcraft who receive Commands from without, from the Letter.

But to go round again, in 1675. p. 36. Englands Interest W P says, me say Holy writ is the declared Fundamental Law of Heaven.

Note, how W. P. confounds himself or de­ceives his Readers, or both, for in his Rejoynder [Page 131](as aforesaid) he takes up several pages to prove [...] Scripture Corrupt and uncertain, so much [...]ghting it that he terms it J. Faldo's Ʋncertain [...]rd of God, p. 39. and yet here calls it, The [...]lared Fundamental Law of Heaven.

3. E. Burroughs in An Epistle, 1661. Keep [...]se to the Lords, and to the measure of himself, [...]de manifest in your own hearts; for unto THAT [...] were directed to, in the beginning, and in it is [...]r safety and preservation to the end.

But afterwards, W. P. controuls this plea of [...] B. in his Breif Exam. p. 11. saying, The [...]emy is at work to scatter the minds of Freinds, by [...]t loose plea. viz. What hast thou to do with me? [...]ave me to my freedom, and to the Grace of God in [...] self, &c.

4. W. Smith's Primmer, p. 46. Give Honour whom honour is due: But to a proud, h [...]ady, [...]h minded man, there is no honour due, Though he [...]y be great in she World, and in place to Rule.

But G. F. in a time of need, could say, I [...]our ALL men, much more the King; see G F 's [...]ryal, &c. p. 8. And G. F. in his Papers to he [...]esbyterians, p. 2. says, All Kings have spru [...]g in the Night, since the days of the Apostles, among [...] Anti-christs.

Note the harmony, Notwithstanding their [...]ing, They are of one Mind and Soul.

5. E. Burroughs Advice to the Parliament, 59. says, It was thorough Ignorance that the People [Page 132]subjected to herriditary Goverment, or to the Gover­ment standing in a single Person successively—and our Nation hath been under the Bonds of Slavery in this respect.

But let us hear what contrary Doctrine G. F. preached, when Times were turned, 1664. If I could take any Oath at all (says he) I could take that Oath ( viz the Oath of Allegiance, which Oath binds to the King, his heirs and Successors) see his Tryal, &c. Behold! what good can be expected from that People, whose Leaders are such Temporizers! But Note, this last passage of E. Burroughs is left out of his Works, Printed 1672.

6. Quakers Vindication, p. 3. by G. W and 24 more, 1693. given to the Parliament, where they accuse F. Bugg of Justifying Cromwells Usur­pation, which they say was testifyed against by E. B. and others.

But pray hear how E. Burroughs testified against Cromwells Usurpation, p. 552. The Lord gave thee [Oliver Cromwel] the Necks of Princes to tread upon, their Dominions to inherit. And to the Kings party, he said, To All you called Delin­quents, Cavileers, Thus saith the Lord, my Contro­versie is against you, even my hand of Judgment is upon you already, and you are become cursed in all your Hatchings—and you and your Kings and Lordly Power, shall be enslaved by the Devil, in the Pit of Darkness in everlasting Bondage, where he shall [Page 133]reign your Lord and King for evermore, &c. Given under my hand, and sealed by the Spirit of God, [...]horough E. Burroughs.

Note, this Passage was taken out of E. B 's Trumpet of the Lord p. 9. but left out of his Works in the reprint. Surely they did not believe E. B. was so moved, nor that his Message was sealed by the Eternal God, else why did they leave out this Notable Prophesie? Thus not only their Temporizing is seen, but also the deceit and falsity of G. W. and his 24 Brethren, for pre­ [...]ending, yea, declaring to the Parliament, that E. B. Testifyed against the Usurpers, when indeed it was the Kings party that he Testifyed against, and justified Cromwells Rule. But as I have before noted, that they have mended, pieced and painted G. F 's Journal, so it appears [in this respect] they have done the same by E. Burroughs Works, and others. Now because G. W. and his 24 Brethren speak of others, as well as E. B. that reprehended O. Cromwels Usur­pation, let us hear what G. Fox says in the case.

7. Counsel and Advice, &c. p 37. Let thy Souldiers go forth with a free willing heart, that thou (Oliver Cromwell) may rock Nations as a Cradle

And in his Papers to the Presbiterians, p. 9. he wrote against the King, calling those Traytors against Christ, who desire an earthly King. [Page 134]And, in his Papers to the Parliament, 1659. about Tythes, he bids them sell all the late Kings Parks and his Rents, and give to the Impro­priators.

But as soon as the King came in, viz. June the 5. 1660 they faced about again, and pub­lished a Declaration, signed by G. F. and 12 more, where in p 4. they say, They Love, own and honour the King, &c.—I could cite more but let these suffice at this Time.

Concerning Papists.

A Caveat again Popery, p 37. Eng. Interest, &c p. 4. both by W. P. The Papal Interest is a Combination against good Sense, Reason and Consci­ence. Whether in case they could not be conformed to, they would allow a Toleration were they powerfull? Whether in case they should say, Yes, we ought to believe them, since it is one of their most sacred Maxims, Not to keep faith with H [...]ticks, &c.

But to go round again, Read p. 6. of The Pennsilvania Defence o [...] the D. of Buckinghams Book, And p. 22 of A Reply, &c. by G. C. (i. e. Gulielmus Calamus Anglica, William Penn) published after K. James came to the Crown, viz I must tell him (i. e. the Church of England man) I cannot a [...]mi [...]e his Wisdom, Manners or Justice in his Reflections upon the Roman Catho­licks, after the Assurance of so great an ONE has [Page 135]given him and his Freinds, of their Security and Protection — One thing I must say, Roman Ca­tholicks have been Loyal in England & Holland, &c. See more in the aforesaid Books to the same purpose.

Now let us hear what some Quakers say in two Addresses they made to K James, one in April, 1687. viz. We Pray God to bless the King and his Royal Family, &c. The other Address, in June, 1687. viz. We cannot but with gratefull hearts both admire and acknowledge the Providence of God, that made the Kings Retireing ( into Scotland) give a happy Turn to his Affairs, to the defeating and disappointing the Designs of his Enemys—We do justly conceive our selves obliged to praise God for his goodness in carrying him Thorough and over ALL his Troubles.

Note; as affectionate as they were to K. James, they could not by their Prayers help him in those Troubles that followed, nor did they by their Spirit of Discerning tell him of it before hand (no more then other Professors) But rather that he was Secure, and got thorough ALL his Troubles. But it appeared they were grosly deceived therein.

What shall I say to my old Freinds, but as one latel said, viz. Fret not at Instruments, neither look so much at them, as at the Righteous▪ Hand that is turned against you. Those who once [Page 136]knew the way of the Lord, and afterwards gave way to a Spirit of deceit, Hypocrisie, Temporizing and Formality, such must be laid open, and are more to b [...] Testifyed against, than the very Heathen or open Prophane.

Thus Reader this Book helps thee to sight of many of their Sayings and Unsayings, back­ward and forward, Contradictions, Confusions and Rounds, yea, Round and Round again, Condemning, Confuting and Confounding themselves, and one another, especially George Whitehead, George Fox and Will. Penn, chief lead­ing Men among the Quakers, as may be seen throughout this Book. Yet notwithstanding all this, I know my old Friends so well, that I ex­pect and doubt not, but that they will have that stupendious Confidence, as to deny all this, (or at least not confess it) and say, 'Tis false, and horrid Slanders, &c. Though we read it, though we see it with our Eyes, and though we hear it with our Ears, yet our Senses must all be deceived, and as in Quakers Challenge, p. 3. The Quakers only are in the Truth, and NONE but They. What else may I say! God in his Infinite Mercy open the Eyes of all sincere hearted (though not so discerning, yet) well meaning Christians, and deliver them from such strange Delusion, as he has in a good measure done for me, blessed be his Name forever.

Postscript, by way of Question, To the Leaders of my Old Friends

BEcause W. P. in his Rejoynder, p. 312. de­clares, That he and his Brethren make it their business to CONTEND thorough all Difficulties to promote this glorious Dispensation of Light in the World. Therefore if you will abide by this, and not decline this Testimony too, but that you make a Re­ply to this foregoing Treatise, pray let Lyes, Wherewith S. Jenings state of the Case is sto­red, see G. K's Answer. Equivocations, Reviling and Sophestical Wrang­ling be no longer your Refuge in the case, so much used by your Brother Ellwood against G. K. till several of his own Brethren were ashamed of it. And if you ex­pect God shall prosper you, let that be condem­ned that is condemnable by his Truth, and no longer justifie all by the lump, as you have done formerly. And along with the rest, I desire you give a plain honest Answer also to this Que­stion, viz.

Why this following Doctrine, so frequently preached form [...]rly by antient Friends, is now let fall, and not preached by any of you, viz.

I the Light will overturn Nations, Kingdoms and gathered Churches, that will not own me the Light in them. I will make you knew, that I the Light am the true Eternal God, p. 11. Light and Life, &c. Again, News out of the North, p. 15. I am the same Door that ever was (says G. F.) the same Christ, to day, yesterday, and forever, the Light is the Eye that sees it. Again, Quest▪ to Professors, p. 27. Doth not the Name [Christ] belong to the whole Body, and to every Member of the Body, as well as to the Head Again, News from the North, says, I speak, the same Seed, which is Christ (says G. F.) and if the Seed speak, which is Christ, he hath no other Name. Again, Saul's Errand to Damafcus, p. 7, 8. If Christ be in you, must be not say, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life? — And he that hath the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, is Equal with God, viz. the holy Ghost, see great Mystry, p. 66, 127. To be short, I omit much more such Doctrine from divers others.

Now I say, seeing you have hither to justified this as Gospel, and Christian Doctrine in those who publisht it, why do you not continue to preach it, as they did, seeing also 'tis the Faith or Belief of all you Preachers in general, That when you preach or pray, 'tis not you, but Christ in you that prays I prove this to be your Belief by these two Reasons,

  • First, You do never in your Meetings pray [Page 139]for Pardon or Forgiveness of Sin (Not that I have heard in Twenty years due attendance) for seeing 'tis Christ in you that prays, there is no need of it, he being without sin.
  • Secondly, You do not pray to Christ, because it being Christ in you that prays, it is absurd for Christ to pray to himself.

But I'll take leave to tell you, (and prove it too, if need be) That you are of a different Faith in these two things from the Apostles, Saints and Martyrs, yea, your Faith or Principle herein is contrary to all the primitive Christians in general; for the Scriptures, Church History and Book of Martyrs shew, that their Religion led them to pray publickly for Pardon for their Sins, and some even at the point of Death; and also both Apostles and other Christians frequent­ly prayed to Jesus Christ, as well as to God the Father.

Indeed your Presumption in this Anti-christian Principle is to be lamented, for when some of your Fellow Ministers have been guilty of Whore­doms, Adulteries, &c. though not then openly known, yet these men, thus secretly guilty, can­not stoop, no more than you, to pray for Pardon for their Sins, but still keep to their common Form in Prayer; and this is a Truth known to more than your selves. Now I ask you, Whe­ther do you Believe 'tis Christ that prays in these men too, as well as in you, who may not so be [Page 140]guilty? Pray answer in Truth and Sincerity to this and the rest of the particulars, or other ways e [...]silent; but I have cause to believe you will do neither, but rather, as G. W. has of late years done, in answering Books, as I have seen, where he has not taken notice of scarce a twentith part of a Book, but only send out something, and call it an Answer, to Please your People, and that they may have something to say, when people cry, where is the Answer to such or such a Book?

Now I sincerely profess, that I have done nothing herein but with an honest design, not having wilfully or knowingly wronged either Books or Authors, in any one passage; Therefore I propose this to you Preachers, who publickly accuse us that have lately printed) calling us, Apostates, Lyars, and that we have both abused you and your Friends Books (in falsly citing P [...]ssages out of the same, and wronging their sense, and the like) to come forth to prove these Charges in the face of the world, and if it be found that we have indeed therein wronged you (Errors of the Press and other causual Mistakes excepted, which are incident to all) you shall (in justice and equity) have publick Satisfaction. Come S. Jenings, Come John Simcock, Come John Rodman, Juda. Allen, W. Gabitas, and all other our Accusers, appoint a publick Meeting at [Page 141] Philadelphia at a Months warning, by a few Lines under your hands, put at some Publick places at Burlington and Philadelphia, and giving me also under your hand, that you intend no other and I promise in the behalf of my self and Friends, to meet you, if God permit, provided it be in some publick place where all may hear how you prove your Charges; Come forth I say fairly to prove your Charges, and no longer [...]i [...] back­biting, belying and abusing of us in your own Meeting-houses, as you do, where you will give none leave to answer you.

But I must tell you [...]lainly, I know you so well that I expect no such fair dealing at your hands.

Therefore I'll give the world a Sign, by which they may know that you do not only abuse, bely and Charge us falsly in this case, But also, that your own Consciences tells you that you are guilty of so doing. The Sign is this; If you know and are conscious to your selves that you have and do so bely us, &c. then you'll not come forth, according to this Proposition; But if you find you can get the least advantage of us, by out witting or otherways wording the matter (tho' with never so much falsity) Then you'll come forth, and be glad I give you this opportunity. And by this SIGN shall you be Proved. Thus my Conscience bears witness, that I am clear of the guilt of your charge, Therefore (as says W. P.) with Religious boldness, [...] subscribe your Friend,

Daniel Leeds.

A COPY of A LETTER Sent to the Author by a Person of Note, whose Name is left out, because printed without his Knowledge.

Esteemed Friend D. L.

I Have perused thy Book, entituled, News of a Trumpet sounding in the W [...]lderness &c. in which thou hast discovered and laid open the Mystery of Iniquity more clearly than I have seen done by any other. And for thy labour and pains therein, I pray God of his Bounty to reward thee, and also protect thee from the cruel Effects of the Envy of those People therein concerned, who be­ing Potent round about thee, thou canst expect no other Protection. Though per­haps the thoughts of the suddain stop that the Philadelphia Quakers met with, when thèy were so hot at persecuting G. K. and [Page 143]his Friends, may in some degree check them, and hinder them from doing what otherwise they would. Since I was with thee at Burlingion in 16 [...]2. I have thought God Almighty was then fitting thee for some purpose, because of the suddain and Miraculous Recovery, in great part, of thy Speech, from that extream [...]mpediment of Stammering, which thou had when I was with thee two years before; and I remember I heard thee then say, thou hadst it from a Child: I call it Miraculous, be­cause I have known many to have such Im­pediments, but never before did I know any to loose it, and Recover their Speech again.

The currant of great part of thy Book excellently confirms my Observation of the Quakers, viz. That their Religion really consists in a cross Method to all other Societies of Christians that ever were in being; For such things as are indeed Fun­damentals of the Christian Religion, they account Nicities, Circumstantials & Smaller matters, and care not how confusedly they preach them. But what are really Cir­cumstantials [Page 144]or smaller matters, as Tythe, Mint, &c. (and not of necessity for a Christians practice) they make the Fun­damentals of their Religion. And yet, as thou hast noted, they are Hypocritical in the practice of most of those things too, as might also be instanced in divers other things; I will name two.

First, They make it matter of con­science not to sing Davids Psalms, and yet they use another way of singing in their Meetings; and make a great noise with it too, especially when any fluent or thun­dring Preacher comes amongst them; yea, many of them have written in Posie or Rhymes, which is to be sung; and as I remember W. Baily and J Coal call some Rhimes that they have written by the Name of Songs, so that it seems People may sing the Quakers Writings, but not David's, by their allowance.

2dly, They pretend Conscience not to Honour or Respect their Superiours, by putting off the Hat, but they will bow the Body, and pray what's the difference? I take bowing the Body to be a greater [Page 145]Respect than doffing the Hat. But though they cannot doff the Hat to others, yet those Quakers who are wealthy that live in great Towns and Cities in England, love Hat Honour so well, that they cause their Apprentices to doff their Hats and stand beat headed before them; this their Conscience will allow.

Again, as to Fighting, thou has well noted their Hypocrisie and wheeling and turning about both in their Writings, and also in their Actions about Delaware River. But I wonder how thou came to neglect that notable Instance of my old Friend and Acquaintance Walter Clark, an antient Preacher, now Governour of Rhode-Island, who has given several Commissions to Masters of Vessels and Privateers to fight the French, &c. to defend which and his Commissionating the Officers of the Train-bands under his Government, (and sometimes heading the said Train-bands himself on his lofty prancing Horse, and Souldier-like, caused the Inhabitants to sign the Association on the head of the Drum) brings this Scripture for his De­fence, [Page 146] Ephes. 6 12. We wrestle not against Flesh and Blood, but against Principalities, against Powers, against the Worldly Gover­nours, &c.

Thus by little and little, Inch by Inch they come round, and can do that which at another time is against their tender Consciences; yet I question whether ever they'll be able to wrestle down the world­ly Governours with only little Guns, till they get great ones; as some of them do already maintain in Ships, notwith [...]tand­ing their Father G. Fox his Papers to the contrary. But do they think the world does not see their Hypocrisie in this and many other things? Yea sure, and laughs as them too.

My Friend, I perceive thee not willing to enlarge, else I could have assisted thee with many things out of Books, which I suppose never came to thy sight, and especially out of the Books of G Fox, who was the first setter up of their Reli­gion, as W. P. declares in his Preface to G. F 's Journal; But methinks the world [Page 147]cannot but see W. P. turned Painter in that Preface; for he there declares the outward Vocation of G. F. to be a Shep­herd, and yet 'tis well known he was a Shoe-makers; But 'tis obs [...]rvable, that in Luke. 2. we find, that the Shepherds were the first that preached Christ, the worlds Saviour; so G F. was the first that preached the Quakers Christ, therefore 'tis convenient he be recorded a Shepherd too, though in truth he was a Shoe maker. — But in all W. Pen [...]s Preface, [...]or any where in the Journ [...] can I find, that One Re­markable Passage of G F 's having the Midwife so long attending on his Wife, expecting her delivery of some Child of Wonder (she being near 59 years of Age) but at last brought forth no Child, and the Midwife dismist No, they thought it not convenient to insert this, though so emi­nent a Passage; for it would be enough to give the lye to his pretended Spirit of Discerning

But as for G. Fox Books, I dare engage, the Quakers will never print a Collection of them; for there such a mess of Confu­sion [Page 148]as the World never saw the like, nor can all their art of Mending, Patching and Pa [...]nting ever hide it.

I wish thou hadst enlarged upon the Quakers exal [...]ing their own Sufferings above the Sufferings of Christ, and his Apost [...]es, and Martyrs, viz on that ‘Doctrine that says, The Sufferings of the People of God called Quakers) in this Age, is greater [...]ufferings, and more Ʋnjust then in the days of Christ, or of the Apostles, or in any time since: Queen Marys days brought not forth a Suffering more CruelWhat was done to Christ, or the Apostles was chiefly done by a Law, and in great part by the due Execution of a Law; see E. Burroughs Works, p. 273.’

And though this was Reprinted by the Quakers in 1672. and also lately justifyed by the 24 London Quakers, yet I affirm it to be a grand vain-glorious Error and wicked Lye. For the Sufferings of all the Saints are not to be compared with the Sufferings of the ever blessed Jesus. And yet the Quakers Sufferings were neither so Great, so Cruel, nor so Unjust, as were [Page 149]the Sufferings of the Apostles or Martyrs; for not one Quaker had then been put to death, viz. in 1657. when that Doctrine was first published. And let the Quakers shew by what Law the Apostles and Mar­tyrs Suffered so many various s [...]r [...]s of Cruel Deaths, by those Bloody Tyrants and how the Law was duly executed on them, or forever be ashamed of this vain Boast, which has no parrellel among [...]rotestants. Besides, they come in as Advocates, and plead for all those Tyrants, persecuting Papists, and Cru [...]l Irish, that Murdered so many Thousands for Christs sake, say­ing but about six Lines off, And herein it appears the Sufferings to be more Ʋnjust, because what the Persecutors of Old did they did by a Law, and by the due Execution of a Law, &c.’

But seeing these People have the Im­pudence to impose such things on the World, in their Doctrine, 'tis no wonder that their Books of Controversie are so stuft with gross Lyes, grand Forgeries, wicked Perversions, false Insinuations, and shameful Calumnies, as are the late Books [Page 150]of S. Jenings, T. Ellwood▪ The Peningtons, G. Whitehead, C. Pusey and others I suppose thou hast seen the Answers to them by G K. &c wherein these things are made appear. But I must take leave. Only this;

I canot but smile to see how like men driven to their la [...]t shifts, they thrust in the Revolution of Souls into the present Controversie, though it be no part of the Controversie; No, they can scarce write a B [...]ok, but in that must go at one end or other on' [...]; and this they do, thinking to fright ignorant People from having any converse with G. K or as S. Fisher tells the Priests, It may serve to frighten poor Fools; though they have made it a worn Threed bare story, by so oft print­ing it in their Books

But I am considering where they will now shelter themselves; for they have all along hitherto been battering at G. K. for his Contradictions and Inconsistencies between his former and late Books; and though they have done in this just as S. Fisher says of those lewd Women [Page 151] who being most Whore, call Whore first; yet now G. K. has cut down this Tree, under which they have all along sheltered themselves; for he has now not only acknowledged, but also Corrected his own Errors in Print. Now what re­mains, is for them to do the like, or else the very World will soon discern them as dry as the Fig-Free which our Saviour cursed.

Farewell.

FINIS.

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