THE CASE OF JOHN HINDE Goldsmith WITH HIS CREDITORS JUSTLY STATED.

Giving an Account to the World of the occasion of his Failing, his fair Proposals, and the Justness and Honesty of his Designs to all his Creditors.

LONDON, Printed in the Year 1685.

The Case of John Hinde with his Creditors Stated.

HINDE was a Banker in Cornhill and dealt for great Summs of Money, and formerly was con­cerned in his Majesty's Duty of Hearth-Money, in Company with Mr. George Dashwood, Mr. A­braham Anselme, Captain John Perry and Mr. Edward Buckley, for which there is a great Summ of Money now due to Hinde: That since Hinde received and paid many great Summs of Money to and for the now Managers of that Duty, upon which account he is now Indebted.

That about two or three Years since he became (un­happily) concerned in the New Buildings at Albemarle-House, Grayes-Inn-Fields, and other places thereabouts: That being engaged, the Concern encreasing and requiring continual Supplies of Money to prevent the whole from perishing, he was compelled to advance above 60000 l. there.

That he being in full Credit had great Summs of Money forced upon him, and being in Trade must proceed till he could draw his Effects together in prospect of paying off all before he discontinue it; For as the case with all Bankers is, if he had, or they should put a stop to their general Re­ceiving [Page 2] or Paying before they are ready to pay off all, it may procure a sudden Call, and then they are undone though they have a good Fund at bottom to pay all.

That it was formerly his Case when in Co-Partnership with one Mr. Kirwood who died some few years since; But then their Creditors being moderate Men, and con­sidering that Bankers Estates could not be called in when they pleased, allowed Hinde and Kirwood time, and they paid off all Men to a Peny and had a good Estate left; and Hinde then withdrew his Share and gave over, and left Kirwood in the Trade singly, who dying, and a great Estate being abroad and doubtfull how the Creditors should fare, they not being able to manage it, Hinde at the perswasion of some of Kirwood's Creditors, who were his old Friends, undertook the Trade again; and to preserve them, gene­rously involved himself, upon which he had more Money forced upon him than he knew what to doe with: And the Buildings of Albemarle-House, Grayes-Inn-Fields and those other places being presented as a very profitable Design, he engaged in it, not suspecting so sudden a Call as now hath happened.

That at the latter end of July last, some of his Cre­ditours grew jealous, and made enquiries with whom he was concerned, and joyned together to call in their Mo­ney out of his hands, that he paid away all his present Cash, well hoping it was their occasions that called for it not a design to ruine him. But the paying some made others more violent; for they could not be content to receive their own, but put others upon calling in of theirs. Having before given securities out of his Estate, such as could be separately disposed of, to satisfie others which rather in­creased than asswaged the desires of satisfaction in those that remained unpaid, nay, some that had got securities for half, [Page 3] their Debts were fiercer for the remainder than those that had received nothing. And in the beginning of Septem­ber last, because he would not privately secure them without the privity of forty more that were then de­manding their Debts also, procured an Extent for 10000 l. to be sued out, and seized Hinde and his Goods for it when there was but 420 l. due, and that secured other­wise too.

Upon this Toplady, Hind's Partner flies: But Hinde designing to pay them to the utmost stood his ground, and sent for the Officer to know by whose direction this was done, and so the Officer seized Hinde, and so Hinde became a Prisoner.

The Case being thus, and it being in vain to hope to support his Credit, and pay his Creditours presently he sent for them and acquainted them with his condition, advising with the chiefest of them in what manner they could manage the Estate for their own satisfaction, most of them commiserated his Condition, and desired him to deliver his Estate, and they would allow him 5000 l. nay, some said 10000 l. thereupon he drew up a Propo­sal to give them all upon oath, reserving 5000 l. to himself and Partner, and referred himself to them to put it into writing, desiring nothing but his Liberty and a mean lively-hood.

Others of the Creditors being desirous to be at a cer­tainty, and to know if the Estate would make them any considerable satisfaction, ordered him to propose what the Estate would amount to. To comply with whom, Hinde to justifie his Integrity makes another Proposal to pay the Creditors their whole Debts in Lands, Houses and Goods as they cost, and if that fall short, to make it up in [Page 4] Debts justly due to him, and summons all his Creditors together, and makes these two Proposals. The Credi­tors then met, adhere to the first Proposal, and some of them come to Hinde and tell him they were agreed and demand the Books, Hinde profers his Books if they would sign the Agreement. But instead of that they pre­sent him with a Draught of an Agreement quite contrary, and which in effect obliged Hinde to deliver and assign all his Estate: But he never to be free.

Hinde desires to advise with Councel, and profers to submit to a reasonable Deed. But they fall in Passion and swear to hang him, and in order thereunto, sixteen of the Creditors Petition the Honorable the House of Com­mons to make such a Law against him, if he deliver not up his Books to them upon many untrue allegations therein, and Print a Paper intituled the Case of the Cre­ditors of John Hinde and John Toplady.

Whilst this is in Transaction, the Managers of the King's Revenue of Hearth-money, extended all or most part of Hind's Estate.

The Heads of the Instrument proposed by Hinde to his Cre­ditors are as followeth. (viz.)

That he will discover all his Estate both Real and Perso­nal to his Creditors save 5000 l. which he prays they will allow him for the support and maintenance of himself, Wife and Family.

That within a Week after his Creditors have Subscribed his Instrument to the purpose aforesaid, He will deliver up all his Books of Accompt, Bills, Bonds, Specialties and other Writings touching his Estate to six such persons, as his [Page 5] Creditors should appoint as Trustees, such six persons to be of the chief Creditors.

That within one moneth after delivery of his Books and Writings as aforesaid, or at any time then after; he will at the request, costs and charges of the Tru­stees on behalf of the Creditors, make, execute and per­form all and every such Deeds, Conveyances, Assuran­ces and Assignments of his Estate both real and personal, for the enabling them to get in, receive, recover, sell and dispose of the same to and for the benefit of all his Creditors in Proportion to their several and respective Debts, As they the said Trustees shall from time to time require, order, and appoint, and deliver up all his Estate he hath in possession, or in the hand of any Person in Trust for him, except the value of 5000 l. as aforesaid, and his Houshold-Goods and wearing Apparel, for himself, Wife and Children.

That upon his discovery, and assigning and delivery of his Estate as aforesaid, to the said Trustees as afore­said; He shall make Oath before a Master in Chancery, that such Estate so discovered and delivered is his whole Estate, within the value of 1000 l. over and above the said Summ of 5000 l. for himself to be reserved as a­foresaid, and his Houshold-Goods, and his own Wife and Childrens Wearing Apparel as aforesaid, which said Summ of 1000 l. when he discovers the same, or such part thereof as he shall at any time hereafter find, or hear of, he shall forthwith discover and assign, convey and deli­ver unto the Trustees, as the Case shall require.

And therefore the Oath of the said John Hinde, shall be binding to all the Creditors, and be definitive, and con­cluding to them as for and touching what Estate the said [Page 6] John Hinde hath. But that such Oath may be the more binding and penal to the said John Hinde, if he falsifie the same, he shall at any time upon demand at the re­quest, costs and charges of the Creditors, answer gratis to any such Bill or Bills in Chancery, or any other Court of Equity, as the said Trustees or the Survivors, or Sur­vor of them shall at any time hereafter prefer against him for the Discovery of what Estate he now hath, sa­ving that by such Bill or Bills he shall not be obliged to answer in what the said Summ of 5000 l. by him so to be reserved for himself doth consist in, or in whose hands the same is in.

That Hinde shall imploy himself, and use his best en­deavours to assist the Creditors, to get in the Estate from time to time, as the Trustees shall order and command him.

That upon his discovery and delivering up his Estate to the said Trustees as aforesaid, the Creditors shall de­liver up all Bills, Bonds and Specialties, and vacate all Judgments, and other Securities they have for any Debts from him to them now due, and these presents shall be a good release and discharge to him from the same.

That if at any time within seven years to come, any Person shall lawfully prove he hath or doth conceal or shall not discover his whole Estate within the value of 1000 l. over and above the said Summ of 5000 l. for him­self reserved, and his Houshold Goods and wearing Appa­rel as aforesaid, Then he will be liable to pay the remain­der of his whole principal Debt to each Creditor.

That this shall be no stop of any proceedings against the said John Hinde, or any of his Estate to any Credi­tor [Page 7] subscribing, this Agreement, untill the discovery and delivery of the Estate as aforesaid.

The Heads of the second Proposal made by Hinde to pay his Creditors their whole Principal Debts were these, viz.

THat he will pay each of his Creditors his full Prin­cipal Debt, in Goods, Wares, Houses, Lands Tenements and Debts owing to him, In case the other fall short in manner following.

The Creditors to choose as many, and such of them­selves as they shall think fit for Trustees, as well to settle this Agreement as also to have the Estate delivered, and assigned to; for getting in and disposing of the same, and dividing the same amongst themselves, and the rest of the Creditors for their satisfaction.

And, that within a week after all have subscribed, he will deliver in the Goods and Wares, and an Accompt of the Houses, Lands and Tenements which the Creditors shall accept of at the price they cost him. Which price shall be ascertained by good proof of the Persons the same were bought of, or for default thereof by his own Oath, which shall be definitive.

That what the Lands, Tenements and Goods shall fall short of paying his whole Principal Debts, he shall make up by Just Debts owing him, a Catalogue whereof he will deliver to the Trustees, within a week after all the Creditors have subscribed, and shall make proof of each such [Page 8] Debt being due to him, sufficient to prove the same at Law if need require.

That each Creditor forthwith after his subscription, if he have no specialty to ascertain his Debt, make up his Accompt, and settle the same with Hinde, That he may be able to deliver in sufficient for their satisfaction.

That Hinde his Heirs, Executors and Administrators, from time to time hereafter, make such Deeds, Assign­ments, Conveyances and Letters of Attorney to the Tru­stees to settle the Estate upon them, and enable them to get in the same as they at their charge shall require.

But no further warranty to be contained in them, than onely against himself, and all clayming under him.

That Hinde be put to no charge in setling or getting in the Estate, but be saved harmless from all Charges of Suits and Non-suits in Law or Equity.

That upon Hinde's delivering up the Goods and Deeds of his Estate, all the Creditors to seal Releases to him and his Partner of all Actions to the day before the date of the Instrument. And the Instrument to be a good Release to him and his Partner of all matters to that day.

That this Instrument be no hindrance or bar to any of the Creditors, from proceeding at Law against him till he have delivered up his Goods and Deeds, and a Cata­logue of his Debts as aforesaid.

That if some few of the Creditors stand out, yet if the Subscribers will defend him from the rest he will perform this Agreement, and deliver enough for all as above, aswell the Dissenters as the Subscribers.

[Page 9]The Major part of the Creditors adhering to the first Proposition, Hinde applyed himself to that and therein condescended further, That the 5000 l. should be redu­ced to 2000 l. and 'tother 3000 l. to be allowed him by 12 pence. in the Pound out of the Estate, as it should come in for his pains and service in getting in the Estate, And deli­vered several Copies of this Instrument to several of the Creditors, and the onely thing remaining that they ob­ject to it is, that the 2000 l. should be discovered to them in what that consists, which they propose to avoid fraud. That under Colour of securing 2000 l. there be not more concealed, which as it seems fair on their parts, so it lies hard on Hinde's part, for when discovered, a Commissi­on of Bankrupts which they are now violently prosecu­ting against him, may lay hold of it. Yet to remove all objections on his part, he hereby declares be will submit to that also.

But he must crave leave of his Creditors to undeceive them, and the World, and shew them that the Agents or Advisers of those few Creditors who oppose this Agree­ment, and insist on the Instrument of their own drawing, have put them upon unreasonable Demands. And be­cause he believes the greatest part of his most worthy Creditors know it not, and even those worthy Gen­tlemen who ordered the Agreement to be drawn up, did not intend it for a Snare to him. But ordered an Instru­ment to be drawn up, that might have answered all their ends; to wit, the securing the Estate to the Creditor's use, and Hinde's Liberty upon performance of it. He there­fore here subjoins the Heads of the Instrument, by Or­der of some of the Creditors presented to him upon his making the Proposals aforesaid.

Which are these, viz.

THat a Letter of Licence be prepared, and forthwith signed by the Creditors, and delivered to Hinde and his Partner Toplady, and thereupon they to discover and deliver up all their Estate.

That they shall convey their Estates to the Trustees of the Creditors, as they shall be desired, and shall do all such Acts, and be assisting in getting in the Estate as the Tru­stees shall desire.

That for the plainer and suller discovery of their Estates, they shall answer one or more such Bill or Bills in Chance­ry, as the Creditors or some one of them shall for that pur­pose exhibit, and that within three weeks after the Bill exhi­bited.

That out of such Estate so to be discovered, each of the Creditors shall or may have 16 s. in the Pound or more, and not less for their Debt.

That for the speedier getting in the Estate, a Commission of Bankrupts be taken out, and when 2 s. in the Pound a­bove all charges be gotten in, It be divided amongst the Creditors.

That Hinde in consideration of discovery of the Estate, and being assisting as before shall keep his Houshold-Goods, and his own and Wises wearing Apparel, not excee­ding 200 l. and shall and may receive 5000 l. as follow­eth, (viz.) when any Dividend shall be made amongst [Page 11] the Creditors, for every [...] in the Pound divided to the Creditors [...] to Hinde till the 5000 l. be paid.

And the Creditor's Covenant, that in Case Hinde make a true Discovery, or do not leave undiscovered the value of 1000 l. and convey all his Estate as before, and so much of this 1000 l. as he shall from time to time discover; then the Creditors will not sue Hinde and Toplady for their Debts for 99 years.

Provided, that if Hinde and Toplady do not make a true Discovery, and assign the Estate as before all the Co­venants for the benefit of Hinde and Toplady, therein con­tained shall be void.

Provided also, That this Deed shall not bind any of the Creditors, unless all the Creditors shall sign this Deed by a Day, to be named then next ensuing.

Upon this Instrument Hinde adviseth with Councel, who inform him the Import and Consequences thereof to be thus considered.

That when this Instrument was drawn, Hinde was a Prisoner in the Fleet, upon the Extent of 10000 l. above mentioned, and all his Houshold-Goods seized on, to the value of 3 or 4 Hundred Pounds, when there was but 420 l. due upon that Extent.

In the Instrument the Proposition is, Hinde may keep his Houshold-Goods, and yet they seized on, and no Pro­vision made to restore them to him.

That a Letter of Licence should be forthwith signed by his Creditors, but for no time limited, he a Prisoner in [Page 12] Execution upon the Extent and no provision to Discharge him, and the time the Letter of Licence from the Creditors was by them proposed to be but for so long as he could take an account of his Estate, and discover, deliver and as­sign it to the Creditors.

Whence it follows if he were at present discharged of his Imprisonment, assoon as that time were elapsed the Credi­tors were at liberty to sue him, and he must deliver all up­on Oath and not have two pence allowed him to maintain himself and Family, which is a Wife and five Children, till the Creditors have settled the Estate and made a Dividend.

And if this be reasonable for every honest Man to doe, then let the Reward be considered which follows in the In­strument: Viz. That the Estate shall make 16 s. in the pound to each Creditor, or more and not less, over and above all charges and expences in recovering, getting in, settling and dividing the Estate amongst them, and this to be done by a Commission of Bankrupt. Now what this will amount unto is easily judged. An Estate to be managed by a Mul­titude, a Commission of Bankrupt to have the harassing of it, each particular Creditors Attorney or Sollicitor to be gratified, or the Estate to be torn in pieces by private Quar­rels and Dissensions: As many Bills in Chancery to be an­swered as any of them for their own private gain shall advise to be brought: An hundred and fifty Creditors to be brought to be of one mind in each particular, or till they all agree who shall be Managers, and how far such Mana­gers shall bind each Man's particular Interest; or if no A­greement, as in such cases that is not suddenly done: Till then Hinde to have no Allowance. But the Estate by de­lays decays and is lost, and by Law-suits is wasted; and yet if Hinde, when all help and power is out of his hands cannot make them agree, who already are divided into se­veral [Page 13] Parties, and are quarrelling who shall have the divi­ding of the Bears Skin, and the Estate wasted very probably above half the value by delay and unnecessary Charges of the Commission and other Expences, and pay them 16 s. in the pound he must perish. And if all this were possible for Hinde to perform, which cannot be done if the Estate really and truly would now make out 30 s. in the pound for each Creditors Debt. Then they covenant not to sue him for 99 years, which is so great a kindness, that when almost double his Debts are paid to them, and spent by them, they will forbear to trouble him but not discharge him.

Nor is this the Case by the ill consequence that may happen only, but expresly by the last Provisoe all the sup­posed benefit to Hinde proposed in the former part of the Deed in this latter Clause is totally destroyed. For all the Creditors may sign him a Letter of Licence as is proposed in the beginning of the Instrument, to encourage him to discover and assign his Estate; but when that is done if e­very individual Creditor do not sign this Instrument, this shall not bind any of the Creditors subscribing, so he is left to lie in a Gaol and his Family to starve.

Now for the Information of all the Creditors who may mistake his honest Intentions, and be misled by the Passion of some angry Men, and to convince all Men of their true Interest in this Affair, that the Estate may not be spent in Law-Suits, and be destroyed by the charge of prosecuting Commissions He gives the World the trouble of this Paper, and hereby assures them, That to this good end he is ready to comply with his Creditors in either of these ways, or such other way as the major part of his Creditors shall reasonably de­sire, so they will but grant him his Liberty and the [Page 14] meanest support for his Livelyhood that hath been pro­posed to him; and hereby most solemnly protest, That he is still ready to perform his part of the Agreements by him proposed to his Creditors, and so he will e­ver be ready to comply with them to the utmost of his ability.

FINIS.

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