Cottoni Posthuma: DIVERS CHOICE PIECES OF THAT Renowned Antiquary Sir ROBERT COTTON, Knight and Baronet, Preserved from the injury of Time, and Exposed to publick light, for the be­nefit of Posterity.

By J. H. Esq

LONDON, Printed for Richard Lowndes at the White Lion in Duck Lane, near Smith-field, and Matthew Gilliflower at the Sun in Westminster-Hall, 1652.

To his worthily Honoured Friend, Sir Robert Pye Knight, at his House in Westminster.

SIR,

THe long interest of Friendship, and nearness of Neighbourhood, which gave you the opportunity of con­versing often with that worthy Baronet, who was Author of these ensuing Discourses, induced me to this Dedicatory Address. Among the Greeks and Romans (who were the two Lu­minaries that first diffused the rayes of Know­ledge and Civility through these North-west Clymes,) He was put in the rank of the best sorts of Patriots, who preserv'd from putrefaction and the rust of Time, the Memory and Works of Vertuous Men, by exposing them to open light for the generall Good; Therefore I hope not to deserve ill of my Country, that I have published [Page] to the World these choice notions of that learned Knight Sir Robert Cotton, who for his exact recerchez into Antiquity, hath made himself famous to Posterity.

Plutarch in writing the lives of Others, made his own everlasting; So an Antiquary while he feels the pulse of former Ages, and makes them known to the present, renders Himself long-liv'd to the future.

There was another inducement that mov'd me to this choice of Dedication, and it was the high respects I owe you upon sundry obligations, and consequently the desire I had that both the present, and after times might bear witness, how much I am, and was

Sir,
Your humble, and truly devoted Servant. James Howell.

To the Knowing Reader, touching these following Discourses, and their AUTHOR.

THe memory of some men is like the Rose, and other odoriferous flowers, which cast a sweeter and stronger smell after they are pluck'd; The memory of Others may be said to be like the Poppie, and such Ve­getalls that make a gay and specious shew while they stand upon the stalk, but being cut and ga­ther'd they have but an ill-favour'd scent; This worthy Knight may be compared to the first sort, as well for the sweet odor (of a good name) he had while he stood, as also after he was cut down by the common stroke of Mortality; Now, to augment the fragrancy of his Vertues and Memory, these following Discourses, which I may term, not altogether improperly, a Posie of sundry differing Howers, are expos'd to the World.

All who ever knew this well-weighed Knight, will confess▪ [what a great Z [...]l [...]t he was to his [Page] Countrey, how in all Parliaments, where he fervid so often, his main endeavours were to assert the publick Liberty, and that Prerogative and Priviledge might run in their due Channels; He would often say, That he Himself had the least share in Himself, but his Countrey and his Friends had the greatest interest in him: He might be said to be in a perpetual pursuit after Vertue and Knowledge; He was indefatigable in the search and re-search of Antiquity, and that in a generous costly manner, as appears in his Archives and copious Library; Therefore he may well deserve to be ranked among those Worthies— Quorum Imagines lambunt He­derae sequaces; For an Antiquary is not unfitly compar'd to the Ivie, who useth to cling unto ancient fabriques and Vegetals.

In these Discourses you have

  • 1. A Relation of proceedings against Ambassadors who have miscarried themselves, and exceeded their Commission.
  • 2. That the Kings of England have been pleased to consult with their Peers in Parliament for marri­age of their Children, and touching Peace and War, &c.
  • 3. That the Soveraigns Person is required in Par­liament in all Consultations and Conclusions.
  • 4. A Discourse of the legality of Combats, Duells, or Camp-fight.
  • 5. Touching the question of Precedency between Eng­land and Spain.
  • 6. Touching the Alliances and Amity which have interven'd betwixt the Houses of Austria and England.
  • 7. A Discourse touching Popish Recusants, Jesuits and Seminaries.
  • 8. The Manner and Means how the Kings of Eng­land have supported and improv'd their States.
  • 9. An Answer to certain Arguments urg'd by a Mem­ber of the House of Commons, and raised from supposed Antiquity, to prove that Ecclesiastical Laws ought to be Enacted by Temporal men.
  • 10. The Arguments produc'd by the House of Com­mons concerning the Priviledge of every Free-born Subject.
  • [Page] 11. A Speech delivered in the House of Commons As­sembled at Oxford in the sirst year year of the last King.
  • 12. A Speech delivered before the Councell Table, touching the alteration of Coyn.
  • 13. Valour Anatomized in a Fancy, by Sir Philip Sidney.
  • 14. A brief Discourse concerning the Power of the Peers and Commons of Parliament, in point of Judicature.
  • 15. Honesty, Ambition and Fortitude Anatomized, by Sir Francis Walsingham.
  • 16. The Life and Raign of Henry the Third, complied in a Criticall way.

These Discourses, being judiciously read, will much tend to the enriching of the understanding, and improve­ment of the Common stock of Knowledge.

A RELATION OF THE PROCEEDINGS AGAINST AMBASSADORS Who have miscarried themselves, &c.

IN humble obedience to your Grace's Command, I am emboldened to present my poor advice to this the greatest, and most impor­tant cause that ever happened in this State, the Quiet of the Kingdom, the Honour of the Prince, the safety of the Spanish Ambassadors Person exposed hereby to the fury of the People, all herein involved: A consideration not the least for the reputation of the State, and Government, though he little de­served it.

[Page 2] The information made to his sacred Majesty by him, That your Grace should have plotted this Parliament; Wherein if his Majesty did not accord to your designs, then by the Authority of this Parliament to confine his sacred Person to some place of pleasure, and transfer the Regal Power upon the Prince: This Information if it were made by a Sub­ject, by the Laws of the Realm were high Treason, to breed a rupture be­tween the Soveraignty and the Nobili­ty, either by Reports or Writings, and by the Common Law is adjudged no less: The Author yet knowing that by the representing the Person of a sove­rain Prince he is by the Law of Nations exempt from Regal tryal, all actions of one so qualified being made the Act of his Master, until he disavow: And in­juries of one absolute Prince to another, is Factum hostilitatis, and not Treason. The immunity of whom Civilians collect as they do the rest of their grounds from the practice of the Roman State, deducing their Arguments from these Examples. Titus Livius 2. doc. The Fabii Ambassadors from Rome were turned safe from the Chades with demand of justice against them onely, although they had been taken bearing Arms with the Ethrurian their Enemies: The Ambassadors of the Tar­quines, Livius. Morte affligendos Romani non judi­cârunt, & quanqnam visi sunt ut hostium [Page 3] loco essent, justamen Gentium voluit. And where those of Syphax had plotted the murder of Masinissa, Non aliud mihi fa­ctum quàm quod sceleris sui reprehensi essent, saith Appian: The Ambassadors of the Protestants at the Counsell of Trent, though divulging there the Doctrine of the Churches, Acta Triden. Concil. contrary to a Decree there enacted, a crime equivalent to Treason, yet stood they protected from any punishment: So much doth public conveniency prevail against a particu­lar mischief; That the State of Rome though in case of the most capital crime, exempted the Tribunes of the people from question, August. de le­gibus Antiq. Roman. during the year of office: And the Civilians all consent, that Legis de Jure Gentium indictum est & eorum corpora salva sint, Propter necessitatem lega­tionis, ac ne confundant jura comercii inter Principes, The redress of such injuries, by such persons, the example of Modern and best times will lead us to. Benedict. in vi­ta Hen. 2. Vivia the Popes Legate was restrained by Henry the Second, for exercising a power in his Realm, not admitted by the King, in disquiet of the State, and forced to swear not to act any thing in Praejudi­cium Regis vel Regni. Record. in Scaccar. W [...]st. Claus. Edw. [...]. Hen. 3. did the like to one of the Popes Ambassadors; another flying the Realm secretly, fearing, timens pelli sui, as the Record saith. Edward 1. so restraining another until he had, as his Progenitors had, informed the Pope [Page 4] of the fault of his Minister, and received satisfaction of the wrongs. In the year 1523. Lewis de Pratt: Lewes in the Paper Chart. 1523: Ambassador for Charles 5. was commanded to his house, for accusing falsly Cardinal Wolsey to have practised a breach between Hen. 8. and his Master, to make up the Amity with the French King; Sir Michael Throgmorton by Charles the 9. of France, was so served, for being too busie with the Prince of Condy in his faction. Doctor Man in the year 1567. was taken from his own house in Madriil, and put un­der a Guard to a straiter Lodging, for breeding a Scandal (as the Conde Teri said) in using by warrant of his Place, the Religion of his Country, although he alledged the like permitted to Ghus­man de Silva their Ambassador, and to the Turk no less then in Spain. In the year 1568. Don Ghuernon d' Espes vvas ordered to keep his house in London, for sending scandalous Letters to the Duke d' Alva unsealed. The Bishop of Rosse in the year 1571. vvas first confined to his house, after to the Tower, then committed for a good space to the Bi­shop of Ely his care, for medling with more business then belonged to the place of his imployment: The like was done to Dr. Alpin and Malvisett the French Ambassadors successively, for being bu­sie in more then their Masters affairs. In the time of Philip the second of Spain, [Page 5] the Venetian Ambassador in Madrill, protecting an offendor that fled into his house, and denying the Heads or Justices to enter his house, vvhere the Ambassador stood armed to vvithstand them, and one Bodavario a Venetian, whom they committed to Prison, for his unruly carriage, and they removed the Ambassador unto another house, until they had searched and found the Offendor: Then conducting back the Ambassador, set a guard upon his house, to stay the fury of the people enraged. The Ambassador complaining to the King, he remitted it to the Supreme Councel; they justified the proceeding, condemning Bodavario to lose his head, and other the Ambassadors servants to the Galleys, all vvhich the King turned to banishment, sending the whole pro­cess to Inego de Mendoza his Ambassador at Venice, and declaring by a publick Ordinance unto that State, and all other Princes, that in case his Ambassadors should commit any offence, nnworthily, and disagreeing to their professions, they should not then enjoy the privilege of those Officers, referring them to be judged by them vvhere they then resided. Barnardino de Mendoza, for traducing falsly the Ministers of the State to fur­ther his seditious Plots, vvas restrained first, and after commanded away in the year 1586. The last of Spanish Instru­ments [Page 6] that disquieted this State, a be­nefit vve found many years after by their absence, and feel the vvant of it now by their reduction.

Having thus shortly touched upon such precedent examples, as have fallen in the vvay, in my poor observation, I humbly crave pardon to offer up my simple opinion what course may best be had of prosecution of this urgent cause. I conceive it not unfit, that vvith the best of speed, some of the chief Secre­tarries vvere sent to the Ambassador by vvay of advice, that they understanding a notice of this information amongst the common people, that they cannot but conceive a just fear of uncivil car­riage towards his Lordship or his fol­lowers, if any the least incitement should arise; and therefore for quiet of the State, and security of his person, they vvere bound in love to his Lord­ship to restrain as vvell himself as fol­lowers until a further course be taken by legal examination, vvhere this asper­tion begun, the vvay they onely con­ceived secure to prevent the danger; this fear in likelyhood vvill be the best motive to induce the Ambassador to make discovery of his intelligence, when it shall be required: I conceive it then most fit, that the Prince and your Grace to morrow should complain of this in Parliament, and leaving it so to their [Page 7] advice and justice, to depart the House, the Lords at the instant to crave a con­ference of some small number of the Commons, and so conclude of a Mes­sage to be sent to the Ambassador to re­quire from him the charge and proofs; the Persons to be sent, the two Speakers of the two Houses, vvith some conve­nient company of either, to have their Maces and ensigns of Office born brfore them to the Ambassadors Gate, and then forborn, to shew fair respect to the Ambassadors, then to tell them that a relation being made that day in open Parliament of the former information to the King by his Lordship, they vvere deputed from both Houses, the great Councel of the Kingdom, to the vvhich, by the fundamental Law of the State, the chief care of the Kings safety and public quiet is committed, they vvere no less the high Court of Justice, or Supersedeas to all others, for the examin­ing and correcting all attempts of so high a nature as this, if it carry truth; That they regarded the honour of the State, for the Catholicks immoderate using of late the Lenity of Soveraign Grace to the scandal and offence of too many, and this aspersion now newly reflecting upon the Prince and others, meeting vvth the former distaste (which all in publique conceive to make a plot to breed a rupture between the King and [Page 8] State, by that party maliciously layd) hath so inflamed and sharpned the minds of most, that by the access of people to Term and Parliament, the City more filled then usual, and the time it selfe neer May day (a time by custom apted more to licentious liberty then any o­ther) cannot but breed a just jealousie and fear of some disorder likely to en­sue of this information, if it be not a­forehand taken up by a fair legal tryal in that High Court: Neither want there fearful examples in this kind in the Ambassadors Genoa upon a far less ground in the time of Parliament, and is house demolished by such a seditious tumult: The Parliament therefore, as well to secure his Lordships person, fol­lowers and friends, from such outrages, to preserve the honour of the State, which needs must suffer blemish in such misfortunes, they were sent thither to require a fair discovery of the ground that led his Lordship so to inform the King, that they might so thereupon provide in Justice and Honor, and that the reverence they bear unto the digni­ty of his Master, may appear the more by the mannerly carriage of his Mes­sage. The two that are never imployed but to the King alone, were at this time sent, and that if by negligence of this fair acceptance, there should hap­pen out any such disaster and danger, [Page 9] the World and they must justly judge as his own fault: If upon the delivery of this Message the Ambassador shall tell his charge, and discover his intel­ligence, then there will be a plaine ground for the Parliament to proceed in Examination and Judgment; But if (as I believe) he will refuse it, then is he Author Scandali both by the Com­mon and Civil Laws of this Realm, and the Parliament may adjudge it false and untrue, and declare by a public Act, the Prince and your Grace innocent, as was that of the Duke of Gloucester, 2 Rich. 2. and of York in Henry the sixth his time, then may the Parliament joyntly become Petitioners to his Majesty, first to con­fine his Ambasiador to his house, re­straining his departure, until his Ma­jesty be acquainted with his offence, and aswell for security as for further practice to put a Guard upon the place, and to make a Proclamation that none of the Kings Subjects shall repair to his house without express leave: And to send withal a Letter, with all speed, of complaint against him to the King of Spaine, together with a Declaration un­der the Seals of all the Nobility and Speaker of the Commons in their names as was 44 Hen. 3. to the Pope against his Legat, and 28 Edw. 1. Requiring such Justice to be done in this case, as by the Leagues of Amity, and Law of [Page 10] Nations is usual, which if the King of Spain refuse, or delay, then it it Trans­actio Criminis upon himself, and an ab­solution of all Amity and friendly in­telligence, and amounts to no less then a War denounced. Thus have I by your leave, and command, delivered my poor opinion, and ever will be ready to do your Grace the best service, when you please to command it.

THAT THE KINGS OF EN …

THAT THE KINGS OF ENGLAND Have been pleased usually to consult with their Peers in the Great Councel, and Commons in Parlia­ment, of Marriage, Peace, and War.

Written by Sir Robert Cotton, Knight and Baronet, Anno 1621.

LONDON, Printed in the Year 1672.

THAT THE SOVERAIGNS …

THAT THE SOVERAIGNS PERSON is Required in the Great COUNCELLS, OR ASSEMBLIES OF THE STATE, As well at the Consultations as at the Couclusions.

Written by Sir Robert Cotton, Knight and Baronet.

LONDON, Printed in the Year 1672.

A DISCOURSE OF THE L …

A DISCOURSE OF THE LAWFULLNES OF COMBATS

To be performed in the presence of the KING, or the Constable and Marshall of ENGLAND.

Written by Sir Robert Cotton, Knight and Baronet. 1609.

LONDON; Printed in the Year 1672.

A DISCOURSE OF THE LAWFULLNES OF COMBATS To be performed in the pre­sence of the KING, &c. COMBAT.

WHere difference could not be determined by legal proof or testimony, Combat. Ex lib. 3. Const. Car. magni de testi­bus. there was allowed the party his purgation. Bract. l. 3. c. 18. fol. 137. tit. Corona.

Which was either

  • Canonicall or
  • Legall.

The first by Oath, and called Canoni­call, because it is Lawfull.

[Page 62] The other, which was either Per aquam candentem, ferrum ignitum, or Duellum, called vulgare, because it was brought in by the barbarous people, without the pretext of any Law; Leges Lom­bard. fol. 17. b. Lu [...]prand [...] Rege. Pr [...]pter consuetudin [...]m gent. legem im­piam vitare non possumus. untill the Gothish and Lombard Kings, seeing their Subjects more addicted to Martiall Discipline than to Civill Government, reduced those trialls to Form and Rule: Which Constitutions are now incorporated in the Civill Law.

From the Northern Nations (of which the Saxons and Normans, or Northmanni are part) it was brought into this Land, And although it grew long ago, both by the Decrees of Desiderius Luitprandus, De Papin. Hist. l. 9. c. 11. Lib. 5. Decret. 2. part. ca. 1. qu. 40. and the Mother Church, discontinued amongst the Lombards, as soon as they grew Civilized in Italy; yet it continued till of late with us, as a mark of our longer barbarisme: Neither would we in this obey the See of Rome; to which we were in many respects ob­servant children; which, for that in the Duell, Condemnandus saepe abslovitur, & quia Deus tentatur, decreed so often and streightly against it.

In England this single Combat was ei­ther granted the party by license extra-judiciall, or legall process. The first was ever from the King, as a chief flower of his Imperiall Crown, and it. was for ex­ercise of Arms especially.

Thus did Richard 1. Rich. 1. Parl. Anno 20. give leave for [Page 63] Tournaments in five places in England; inter Sarum & Winton; inter Stamford & Wallingford, &c. ita quod pax terrae nostrae non infringetur, nec potestas justiciara mino­rabitur: For performance whereof, as likewise to pay unto the King according to their qualities or degrees, a sum of money proportionable, and that of a good value and advantage to the Crown, they take a solemn Oath.

The like I find in 20 E. 1. and 18 E. 3. granted Viris militaribus Comitatus Lin­coln, to hold a Just there every year. 20 E. 1. Pat 18. E. 3. in 44. part 2. Ri­chard Redman and his three Companions in Arms, had the licence of Rich. 2. Ha­stiludere cum Willielmo Halberton, Pat. part 3. Anno 19. R. 2. m 16. cum tribus sociis suis apud Civitat. Carliol. Pat. Anno 5. H. 4. m. 8. The like did H. 4. to John de Gray; and of this sort I find in records, examples plentifull.

Yet did Pope Alexand. the fourth, fol­lowing also the steps of his Predecessors, Innocentius & Eugenius, prohibit through­out all Christendome, Detestabiles nundi­nas vel ferias quas vulgo Torniamenta vo­cant, in quibus Milites convenire solent ad oftentationem virium suaram & audaciae, unde mortes hominum & pericula animarum saepe conveniunt. And therefore did Gre­gory the tenth send to Edward the first his Bull pro subtrahenda Regis praesentia à Tor­niamentis à partibus Franciae, as from a spectacle altogether in a Christian Prince unlawfull: Lactan. divin. Instit. cap. 6. For, Gladiatorum sceleribus [Page 64] non minus cruore profunditur qui spectat, quàm ille qui facit, saith Lactantius. And Quid inhumanius quid acerbius dici potest, saith Saint Cyprian, St. Cyp. l. 1. Ep. 2. then when homo occi­diturs in voluptatem hominis, & ut quis possit occidere peritia est, usus est, ars est, Scelus non tantùm geritur, sed docetur. Disciplina est ut primere quis possit, & Glo­ria quòd periunt.

And therefore great Canstantine, Euseb. in vita Constant. l. 3. Zocomen. l. 1. c. 8. as a fruit of his conversion (which Honorius his Christian successor did confirme) established this edict: l. 2. Cod. & Glad. Ex Cod. Theo [...]os. l. 5. c. 26. Cruenta spectacula in otio civili & domesticâ quiete non pla­cent: quapropter omninò Gladiatores esse prohibemus. And the permission here amongst us no doubt, is not the least en­couragement from foolish confidence of Skill, of so many private quarrells un­dertaken.

Combats permitted by Law, are either in causes Criminal or Civil, as in ap­peals of Treason, and then out of the Court of the Cons [...]able and Marshal; F [...]colinus de Brackland cap. 12. H 1. as that between Essex and Montford in the raign of Henry the first, for forsaking the Kings Standard.

That between Audley and Chatterton for betraying the fort of Saint Salviours in Constant, 2. Part. pat. 8. R. 2. Memb. 8. Rot. Vascon. Anno 9. H. 4. the eighth year of Richard the second.

And that of Bartram de Vsano, and John Bulmer, coram Constabulario & Ma­riscallo Angliae de verbis proditoris, Anno 9. [Page 65] H. 4. The form hereof appeareth in the Plea Rolls, [...]lacita coram Rege 22 E. 1. Anno 22. E. 1. in the case of Vessey: And in the Book of the Marshals Office, in the Chapter Modus faciendi Duellum coram Rege.

In Appeals of Murther or Robbery, the Combat is granted out of the Court of the Kings Bench. The Presidents are often in the books of Law; and the form may be gathered out of Bracton, and the printed Reports of E. 3. and H. 4. Bract. l. 3 c. 21 Anno. 17 E. 3. & Anno. 9 H. 4. All being an inhibition of the Norman Cu­stomes, Ex Consuetud. Duc. Norman. cap. 68. as appeareth in the 68th. chapter of their Customary; from whence we seem to have brought it.

And thus far of Combats in Cases Criminall.

In Cases Civill, it is granted either for Title of Arms out of the Marshals Court; Tit. de Equela multri fol. 145. as between Richard Scroop and Sir Robert Grosvenor, Breve Reg. orig. apud R. G. C. Citsilt, and others, Or for Title of Lands by a Writ of Right in the Common-Pleas, the experi­ence whereof hath been of late: as in the Case of Paramour; and is often before found in our printed Reports, Reports Anno 1 H. 6. Dyer Anno 13 Eliz. where the manner of darraigning Battail is likewise; as 1 H. 6. and 13 Eliz. in the L. Dyer expressed.

To this may be added, though beyond the Cognisance of the Common Law, that which hath in it the best pretext of Combat; which is the saving of Christian [...]loud, by deciding in single fight, that [Page 66] which would be otherwise the effect of publick War.

Such were the Offers of R. 1. E. 3. Rog. [...]ovode­den & Adam Merimuth in vita E. 3. and R. 2. Rot. Fran. An­no 7 R. 2. m. 21. to try their right with the French King body to body. Compane de la faughe Regali & Spagna. f [...] 110. and so was that between Charles of Arragon, Joan. de Moli­na Chron. de Loy [...] Reg. de A­ragon. fol. 43. Balla Martini 5. dat in Kal. Maij Anno [...]ontific. 8. and Peter of Terracone for the Isle of Sitilie, which by allowance of Pope Martin the 4th. and the Colledge of Cardinalls, was agreed to be fought at Burdeux in Aqui­tain. Wherein (under favour) he digres­sed far from the steps of his Predecessors, Eugenius, Innocentius, and Alexander; and was no pattern to the next of his name, who was so far from approving the Combat between the Dukes of Burgundy and Glocester, as that he did inhibit it by his Bull; declaring therein; that it was Detestabile genus pugnoe, omni divino & humano jure damnatum, & fidelibus in­terdictum; And he did wonder and grieve, quod ira, ambitio, vel cupiditas honoris hu­mani ipsos Duces immemores faceret Legis Domini & salutis aeternae, qua privatus es­set quicunque in tali pugna decederat: Nam saepe compertum est superatum fovere justi­tiam; Et quomodo existimare quisquam po­test rectum judicium ex Duello, in quo im­micus Veritatis Diabolus dominatur.

And thus far Combates, which by the Law of the Land, or leave of the Soveraign, have any War­rant.

It rests to instance out of a few Re­cords, [Page 67] what the Kings of England, out of Regal Prerogative have done, either in restraint of Martial exercises, or pri­vate quarrels, or in determining them when they were undertaken: And to shew out of the Registers of former times, which what eye the Law and Ju­stice of the State did look upon that Subject, that durst assume otherwise the Sword or Sceptre into his own hand.

The restraint of Tournaments by Proclamation is so usuall, [...]lacita anno 29. & 31 E. 1. that I need to repeat, for form sake, but one of many.

The first Edward, renowned both for his Wisedome and Fortune, Publice fe­cit proclamari, & firmiter inhiberi, ne quis, sub forisfactura terrarum & omnium tene­mentorum, torneare, bordeare, justas facere, aventuras quaerere, seu alias ad arma ire praesumat, sine Licentia Regis speciali.

By Proclamation R. 2. forbad any but his Officers, Rot. claus. an­no 19 R. 2. dat. 26 Feb. and some few excepted, to carry any Sword, or long Bastard, un­der pain of forfeiture and Imprison­ment.

The same King, Claus in dorso 19 R. 2. in the 19th of his raign, and upon the Marriage with the French Kings daughter, commanded by Proclamation, Ne quis Miles, Armiger, seu alius Ligeus aut Subditus suus, cujuscun­que status, aliquem Francigenam, seu quem­cunque alium qui de potestate & obedientia regis existerit, Vpon what pretence so­ever, ad aliqua facta Guer [...] [...]rum, seu actus [Page 68] armorum exigat, sub forisfactura ominum quae Regi forisfacere poterit.

And as in the Kings power it hath ever rested no forbid Combates, so it hath been to determine and take them up.

Thus did R. 2. in that so memorable quarrel between Mowbray and Hereford, Com. St. Alban. 22 R. 2. by exiling them both. And when Sir John de Anestie, and Tho. de Chatterton, were ready to fight, candem quaerelam Rex in manum suam recepit, saith the Re­cord.

And De mandato Regis direptum est praelium inter Johannem Bolmer, 2. Pars pat. anno 8 R. 2. Rot Vascon. anno 9 H. 4. m. 14. & Bar­tramum de Vesana in the time of Henry the fourth.

Sir John Fitz-Thomas being produ­ced before the Earl of Glocester, Deputy of Ireland, and there Challenged by Sir William deVessy to have done him wrong, in reporting to the King, that Sir Willi­am aforesaid should have spoken against the King defamatory words, of which Sir John there presented a Schedule: Placita coram Rege. 22 E. 1. Willielmus, audito tenore Schedulae praedictae, dementitus est praedictum Johannem, dicendo; mentitus est tanquam falsus, & proditor, & denegavit omnia sibi imposita, & tradidit vadium in manum Justiciarij, qui illud ad misit. Et Praedictus Johannes advocavit omnia & dementitus est simil. dictum Wil­lielm. Whereupon the Combat was granted, and the time and place inrol­led: [Page 69] but the Process was adjourned in­to England before the King; who with his Counsell examining the whole pro­ceeding, and that Quia Willielmus atta­chiatus fuit ad respondend. Johanni praedicto super diffamatione principaliter, Rot. Parl. anno 23 E.1. & non sit ci­tatus in Regno isto placitare in Curia Regis, placita de diffamationibus, aut inter partes aliquas, Duellum concedere in placitis de qui­bus cognitio ad curiam Regis non pertinet; And for that the Judge, vadia praedictorum Johannis & Willielmi cepit priusquam Du­ellum inter eos consideratum & adjudicatum fuit, quod omnino contra legem est & consue­tudinem Regni: Therefore, per ipsum Regem & Concilium concordatum est, quod processus totaliter adnulletur: And that the said John and Willlam eant inde sine die; salva utrique eorum actione sua si alias de aliquo in proedicto processu contento loqui voluerint.

In a Combat granted in a Writ of right, Philip de Pugill, one of the Cham­pions, oppressus multitudine hominum se de­fendere non potuit: Whereupon the People against him in perpetuam defamationem su­am in eodem Duello Creantiam proclamabant, which the King understanding, Assensu Concilii statuit, quod praedict. Philippus prop­ter Creantiam praedict. liberam legem non omittat, sed omnibus liberis actibus gauderet sicut ante Duellum gaudere consuevit.

What penalty they have incurred, that without law or license have attempted the practise of Arms, or [Page 70] their own Revenge, may some­what appear by these few Records following

William Earl of Albemarle was Ex­communicated Pro Torniamento tento con­tra praeceptum Regis. Pat. in dors. 4 H 3. Conc. Trid. Sess 9. Tit Decre­ta Reform. Ex Con. Biturien. fol 1022. Claus, anno 3. E. 1. m. 2. To which agreeth at this day for the Duell the Councel of Trent, and that held at Biturio in Anno 1584.

John Warren Earl of Surrey was fined at a thousand marks pro quadam transgres­sione in insultu facto in Alanum de la Zouch.

Talbois was committed to the Tower for attempting to have slain the Lord Cromwell. Parl anno 24 H. 6.

And because Robertus Garvois insultum fecit, & percussit Edwardum filium Williel. mi, inquisitio facta est de omnibus tenementis & catallis praedicti Roberti.

Edw. Dallingrige accused by Sir John St. Leger before the Kings Justices Pr [...] venatione, & aliis transgressionibus, answe­red, that these accusations were false, and threw down his Glove, and challen­ged disrationare materias praedictas versu [...] praedictum Johannem per Duellum. Placita de quo Warrant [...] anno 8 R. [...]. Sussex. Sed quis contra legem terrae vadiavit inde Duellum, he was committed to Prison, quousque sa­tisfaceret Domino Regi pro contemptu.

Sir Nicholas de Segrave, a Baron, Chal­lenged Sir John de Cromwell, and, contra­ry to the Kings prohibition, because he could not fight with him in England, da­red him to come and defend himself in [Page 71] France: therein (as the Record saith) sub­jecting as much as in him lay, the Realm of England to the Realm of France, being stayed in his passage at Dover, was com­mitted to the Castle, & brought after to the Kings Bench; and there arraigned, be­fore the Lords, confesled his fault, & sub­mitted himself to the King, de alto & basso: Wherefore judgement is given in these words, Placita coram Rege Trin. 33 E. 1. Et super hoc Dominus Rex volens habere avisamentum Comitum, Baronum, Magnatum, & aliorum de consilio suo, in­junxit. eisdem, in homagio fidelitate & lige­antia quibus ei tenentur, quod ipsi considerent quails poena pro tali facto fuerit infligenda. Qui omnes, habito super hoc consilio, dicunt quod hujusmodi factum moeretur poenam ami­sionis vitae, Whereupon he was committed to the Tower, & Ro. Archerd, that attend­ed him into France, was committed to prison, arraigned, & fined at 200 marks. In the end, & aftermuch intercession, the L. Segrave was pardoned by the King, but could not obtain his liberty, until he had put in security for his good behaviour.

But this course holdeth proportion with an ancient law made by Lotharius the Emperor in these words, De hiis qui discordiis & contentionibus studere solent, & in pace vivere noluerint, Ex lege Longi bard. 45. circa annum 8 [...] & inde convicti fue­rint, similiter volumus, ut per fidejussores ad nostrum Palatium veniant, & ibi cum nostris fidelibus consider [...]bimus quid de talibus ho­minibus faciendum sit.

A BREIF ABSTRACT Of …

A BREIF ABSTRACT Of the Question of PRECEDENCIE BETWEEN ENGLAND AND SPAINE;

Occasioned by Sir Henry Nevill The Queen of Englands Ambassador, and the Ambassador of Spain, at Calais, Commissioners appointed by the French King, who had moved a Treaty of Peace in the 42. year of the same QUEEN.

Collected by Robert Cotton Esquire, at the commandment of her Majesty.

Anno Domini 1651.

LONDON, Printed in the Year 1672.

A BRIEF ABSTRACT ACT Of the Question of Precedency between England and Spain, &c. • Precedency of the King in respect of • place • Antiquity as a • Kingdom , • or a , and • Christian Kingdom.  , • or , and • Eminency of the Throne Royal  , • or , and • person • Nobility of bloud , • or , and • Antiquity of Government.   

Precedencie of England in respect of the Antiquity of the King­dome.

TO seek before the decay of the Roman Empire the antiquity of any Kingdome is meer vani­ty, when as the King­domes of Christendome, now in being, had their rising from the fall thereof; at which instant Vortigern a Native of this Isle, first established here a free Kingdom four hundred and fifty years after Christ, and so left it to the Saxons, from whom her Majesty is in dis­cent Lineal; and it is plain, that as we were later then Spain reduced under the Roman yoak, so we were sooner infreed.

Subsequence of Spain.

Spain since the dissolution of the Ro­man Empire entituled no King, till of late, for Attalaricus from whom they would, upon slender warrant, ground their dissent, was never stiled Rex Hispa­niae, but Gothorum, and the Kingdom of [Page 77] Castile, Rodericus Sanctius. pag 312. wherein the main and fairest antiquity of Spain rested, begun not before the year of Christ 1017. whereas they were but Earls of Castile before; so that the Kingdome of the English began (which was alwayes as Beda obser­veth a Monarch in a Heptarchie) 460. Beda. years at the least before the Kingdom of Castile or Spain.

Precedency of England in respect of Antiquity of Christian Re­ligion.

JOSEPH of Aramathea planted Chri­stian Religion immediately after the passion of Christ, Baronius. in this Realm.

And Aristobulus one of them mentio­ned by Saint Paul, Dorothaeus. Romans 6. was Episc. Brittanorum, and likewise Simon Zelotes.

The first Christian King in Europe was Lucius Surius. Beda.

The first that ever advanced the papa­cy of Rome, Baronius & Donaco Con­stantini. was the Emperour Constan­tinus born at Yorke. Of whom in the Ro­man Laws near his time is written Qui veneranda Christianorum fide Romanum munivit imperium; And to him peculiar­ly more than to other Emperours are these Epithitons attributed, In inscriptio­nibus antiquis. Divus Divae memoriae, divinae memoriae orbis Liberator, quietis fundator, Reipublic. instaurator, [Page 78] publicae libertatis auctor, Magnus Maxi­mus, Invictus; Restitutor urbis Romae, atque orbis.

And there have been more Kings and Princes of the bloud Royall, Easci [...]ulus temporis. Confessors and Martyrs in England, than in any one Province in Europe.

And from Ethelbert King of Kent, (Converted Anno 596) untill this day, Christianity hath been without inter­ruption continued.

Subsequence of Spain.

In the time of Claudius, Saint James preached in Spain; but gained only nine Souls. Tarapha. So did he in Ireland as Vincentius saith; and they cannot count Christian religion to be then planted in Spain, which shortly after was first tainted with the heresie of Priscilian, then with Gothish Arianism, and after defaced with Moo­rish Mahumetism from 707 years after Christ, Tarapha. in continuance 770 years, untill Ferdinando, King of Arragon and Castilia utterly expelled the Moors.

Precedency of England in respect of the more absolute Authority Politicall.

THe Queen of Englands power abso­lute in acknowledging no superior, [Page 79] nor in vassallage to Pope or Emperour. Eulogium lib. 5 For that subjection which by King John was made to Inno [...]entius the third, after in Parliament, Per praeceptum Domini Pa­pae septimo Julii, Cum fidelitate & homagio relaxatur omnino.

Sir Thomas Moore in his debellation, saith, the Church of Rome can shew no such deed of subjection, neither that the King could grant it of himself. And En­gubinus in his defence of Constantines do­dation, Ex legibus Sancti Edwar­di. nameth not England, Ex legibus Ce­nuti. where he recited all the foedary Kingdomes of the Papacy; the Peter-pence were not duties but Eleemosina Regis, neither the Rome-Scot, but Regis larga benignitas: Parem non habet Rex Angliae in Regno suo: multo fortius nec superiorem habere debet saith Bracton.

Ipse non debet ess e sub homie, Bracton. sed sub Deo, & habet tantum superiorem Judicem Deum: Likewise in appointing Magi­strates; pardoning Life, Appeal, granting privileges, taking homage, and his Jura Majestatis not limited in censu nummorum, Bello judicando, Pace in­eunda.

Eleutherius the Pope 1400 years ago, in his Epistle to Lucius King of Brittain, stiled him Vicarius Dei in Regno suo; so is the King of England in Edgars Lawes; and Baldus Baldus. the Lawyer saith, Rex Angliae est Monarcha in regno suo; and Malmes­bury, Malmsbury. Post conversionem ad fidem tot & [Page 80] tantas obtinuit Libertates quot imperator imperia.

Subsequence of Spain.

The King of Spain hath no Kingdom, but is foedory either to France or Casti­la, enthralled by oath of subjection, and vassallage, from King Henry, to Charles the fifth of France 1369. Ex foedere contra­cto: And for the Netherlands, there is homage due to the French King, or the Papacy, as Arragon to Innocentius the third, by King Peter 1204. confirmed by Ferdinand and Alphonsus 1445. and from James, by the like oath, 1453.

And to Sardinia and Corsica the King of Arragon, from the Bishops of Rome, were under oath of subjection invested: Ex formula fiduciae.

The Kingdom of Portugall in vassal­lage to the Pope under an Annuall Tri­bute.

And the Canaries, Hesperides, and Gorgon Islands subjected to the See of Rome, under the chief Rent of four hun­dred Florins, by Lewis King of Spain, 1043.

Of both the Indies Alexander did re­serve the regalities of Sicilia, Ex Eug [...]bino. the Church is chief Lord.

And Granado and Navarre were made foedary to the Pope, under Julius the second.

[Page 81] Naples at every change sendeth a Pal­frey, as a Heriot, due to the Church of Rome, and of the Empire he holdeth the Dukedom of Millaine.

So that it is questionable among Civi­lians: whether he be Princeps which hol­deth in feodo all of others.

His absolute authority restrained in Arragon, by Justitia Arragonica. In Biscay and other places, by particular reser­vations. And his Jura Majestatis in Cen­su Nummorum, Bello judicando, Pace ineunda &c. Limited by the priviledges of the State, as at Brabant and elsewhere in his Spanish Territories; Ex propriis constitu­tionibus & privilegiis.

Precedency of England in respect of more absolute authority Ecclesi­astical.

HEr Majesties power more absolute in this (confirmed by ancient Cu­stome and privilege) than any other Christian Prince. For no Legat de Latere in England, de jure allowed, Ex Ranolpho N [...]gro. but the Arch­bishop of Canterbury.

If any admitted by courtesie, he hath no Authority to hold plea in the Realm, contrary to the the Laws thereof: Pla­cita 2 Hen. 4. and before he was admitted and entered the Realm, he was to take oath, to do nothing derogatory to the [Page 82] King and his Crown. Placita Anno prim [...] Henri 7. No man might denounce the Popes excommunication, nor obey his authority on pain to forfeit all his goods, without assent of the King or his Counsel. Placita 23 and 34 Edw. Rot. Dunelm.

Henry the First called a Provincial Councel, Malmsbury. so did Canutus and others.

No appeal to Rome without the Kings licence: Anno 32 & 34 Edw. 1. Inven­ture of Bishops and Churchmen, in the Kings hand. Ex Matt. Paris & Hen. Hun­tington.

De gestis Pontific. Donelm Placita. 32 Edw. 1. and in the 32 Edw. 3. Where the reason of the Kings Ecclesiastical authority, to suspend or bestow Church livings is yielded, Quia reges Angliae un­guntur in Capite.

Subsequence of Spain.

The King of Spain can prescribe no custome to prohibit the Popes Legat, nor useth any Authority Penall over the Clergy; Spain can produce no Ex­ample of any Provincial Councel by call of the King For. Bodin lib. 1. cap. 6. towards the end writeth, that the Kings of Spain, Non sine magna mercede impe­traverunt Sixti Pontificis Romani re­scripto ne perigrinis sacerdotia tribueren­tur.

[Page 83] Appeals from the King to Rome al­lowed. So the Kings of Spain, have meerly no power Ecclesiastical, having dispoyled himself of all, by inthralling their Kingdom to the Church of Rome.

Precedency of England, in respect of Eminency of Royall Dig­nity.

THe Kings of England are anointed as the Kings of France, Ex libro B [...]rn wellensis Cae­nobiae. who only have their preheminence before other Kingdoms declared by miracle, in the cure of the Regius morbus, which they can effect only; and that of antiquity: For Edward the Confessor healed many.

2. They are superiour Lords of the Kingdome of Scotland and Man, and Vicarii Imperii; as Edward the third and Oswald intituled Rex Christianissimus: ve. Peda lib. 2.

3. They are named Filii adoptivi Ec­clesiae, Platina. as the Emperour Filius Primogeni­tus, and the King of France, Filius natu minor: vide Platina.

4. They are accompted among Reges super illustres, in this order: Corsettus. Imperator, Rex Franciae, Rex Angliae & Franciae, vide Corsettus.

5. England in the General Councels at Constance and Pisa, was made a Nation, [Page 84] when as all Christianity was divided in­to four Nations, Ex lib. Sacra­rum Ceremo­niar. Itallicam, Gallicam, Ger­manicam, & Anglicam. Ex lib. sacrarum Ceremoniarum Ecclesiae Romanae.

6. Whereupon seat accordingly was allowed at the three General Councels, viz. Constance, Pisa, Sienna, to the English Ambassadors next to the Emperour on the left hand, and to the King of France on the right hand: which were their Ancient seats before the Spaniards at Basill 1431. begun to contend for Pre­cedency.

Where it was in the first Session or­dered, that all Legats should hold such their places, as they had enjoyed here­tofore, according to their worth and antiquity: Yet in the Councel of Trent the precedency of France with Spain was made questionable.

Augustus de Cavalles, as the strongest reason to bar the French Interest, infer­red the Queen of England from her An­cestors, both in respect of Inheritance, Conquest, and Gift, de jure Queen of France. By which reason when he doth shake or overthrow (as he thinketh) the Precedency of France, he doth conse­quently strengthen the Precedency of England.

And in Treaty between Henry the se­venth, and Philip of Castile, 1506 the Commissioners of England did subsign betore the other, And in the Treaty of [Page 85] Marriage with Queen Mary, Anno 1553 those of England are first rehearsed. And at Burbrough Anno 1588. they gave it to her Majesties Ambassadors.

And yet in respect of the Eminency of this Royal throne, to the See of Canter­bury was granted by Vrbane, at the Councel of Claremount, Anno 1096. for ever, the seat in General Councel, at the Popes right foot, who at that time uttered these words; Includamus hunc in orbe nostro tanquam alterius orbis Pontificem Maximum.

Subsequence of Spain.

1. The Kings of Castile are never a­nointed, neither hath the Spanish Throne that vertue to endow the King therein invested, with the power to heal the Kings evil: For into France do yearly come multitudes of Spaniards to be heal­ed thereof.

2. No Kingdom held in fee of him.

3. Spain then not remembred one of the Sons of the Church.

4. The King of Spain placed last after the King of England inter super illustres, by the said Corsettus.

5.The Kingdome was then comprised under Itallica natio, and no Nation of it self, as in old it was called Iberia minor, as a member of Italy, Iberia major. Virgilius. [Page 86] England being Britannia major. Cosmographia.

At which time the Spaniard contented himself with the place next to the King of France. Garsius.

Precedency of England before Spain, in respect of the Nobility of Blood.

HEr Majesty in Lineal discent is de­duced from Christian Princes for 800 years, by Ethelbert a Christian 596. and the Matches of her progenitors most Royal with France, Germany, Spain.

Subsequence of Spain.

For their Antiquity of discent as Kings of Spain is chiefly from the Earls of Castilia about 500 years since. vide T [...]rapha.

For they cannot warrant their dis­cent, from Atalaricus the Goth, and as Dukes of Austria from the Earls of Hapsburgh only about 390 years since.

Their matches anciently for the most part with their subjects, and of late in their own blood.

Precedency of England, in respect of antiquity of Government.

HEr Majesty having raigned now most happily 42 years.

[Page 87] This we would not have alledged, but that the Spanish Ambassador at Basil, ob­jected in this respect the minority of Henry the sixth.

Her sex herein nothing prejudicial, when as both divine and humane Laws do allow it, and accordingly Spain, Eng­land, and Hungary, insomuch, that Mary Queen of the last, was always stiled, Rex Mario Hungariae. Vide Tilius. Tilius.

Subsequence of Spain.

The King of Spain yet in the Infancy of his Kingdome.

For the Precedency may be alledged, viz.

The Antiquity of the Kingdom, when as Castile, Arragon, Navar and Portuguall, had their first Kings about 1025. Anno Christi 1025.

The ancient receiving of the Christian Faith, by Joseph of Aramathea, Simon Zelotes, Aristobulus, yea by St. Peter, and St. Paul, as Theodoretus, and Sophrinius do testifie.

The Kingdome is held of God alone, acknowledging no superiour, and in no vassalage to the Emperour or Pope, as Naples, Sicilia, Arragont, Sardinia, and Corsica, &c.

Sir Thomas Moore denyeth, that King John, either did, or could make England subject to the Pope, and that the Tribute was not paid (pag. 296.) but the Preter-pence, [Page 88] were paid to the Pope, by K. John, by way of Alms.

The absolute power of the King of England, which in other Kingdomes is much restrained.

England is accompted the fourth part of Christendome; 1415. For in the Councel of Constance all Christianity was divided, in nationem, viz. Italicam, Germanicam, Gallicanam & Anglicanam, and according­ly gave voices.

England in the opinions of the Popes is preferred, because in it is conteined in the Ecclesiastical division, two large Pro­vinces, which had their several Legatinati when as France had scantly one.

The Emperour is accompted major filius Papae, Ann [...] Christi. the King of France filius minor, the King of England, filius adoptivus.

The Archbishops of Canterbury, are accompted by the people, tanquam alterius orbis Papae, and anointed to have place in General Councels, at the Popes right foot.

The title of Defensor fidei, as honoura­bly, and as justly bestowed upon the Kings of England, as Christianissimus upon the French; or Catholicus upon the Spaniard.

Edward the third, 1338. King of England, was created by the Emperour, Vicarius Perpe­tuus Imperii; cum jure vitae necisque in om­nes Imperii; snbditos, and the Kings of England, 1065. Papae Vicarii, by Pope Nicho­las [Page 89] the second, vide COPGRAVE.

Innocentius the fourth, 1246. the Pope said, vere hortus deliciarum est Anglia, vere pateus inexhaustus ubi multa abundant, &c.

King Hen. 2. 1185. elected King of Jerusalem by the Christians.

Richard the first conquered the King­dome of Cyprus, 1191. and gave it unto Guy Lusigrian, whose posterity raigned there until of late years.

Kings of England are superiour Lords of the Kingdom of Scotland, and are ab­solute Kings of all the Kingdom of Ire­land.

England is not subject to Imperial and Roman Laws, as other Kingdoms are, but retaineth her ancient Laws, and Pura municipialia.

King Henry the sixth was Crowned King of France at Paris.

The Kings of England did use the stile of a Soveraign, viz. Alti conantis Dei, Lar­giflua, Clementiae qui est Rex Regum & Do­minus Dominorum.

Ego Edgarus anglorum [...] Omni­umque Regum Insularumque Oceani Britanici Circumjacentium, cunctarumque Nationum quae infra cam includuntur, Imperator ac Dominus.

A REMONSTRANCE OF TH …

A REMONSTRANCE OF THE TREATIES OF AMITY AND MARRIAGE Before time, and of late, of the House of AVSTRIA and SPAIN, with the Kings of England, to advance themselves to the Monarchy of Europe.

Written by Sir Robert Cotton, Knight and Baronet.

LONDON, Printed in the Year 1672.

Twenty Four ARGUMENT …

Twenty Four ARGUMENTS, Whether it be more expedient to suppress POPISH PRACTISES Against the due ALLEGEANCE OF HIS MAJESTY.

By the Strict Executions touching Jesuits and Seminary Priests? OR, To restrain them to Close Prisons, during life, if no Refor­mation follow?

Written by Sir Robert Cotton, Knight and Baronet.

LONDON, Printed in the Year 1672.

Twenty four ARGUMENTS Whether it be more expedient to suppress POPISH PRACTISES Against the due ALLEGEANCE To His MAJESTY.
By the Strict Execution touching Jesuits, and Se­minary Priests, &c.

I Am not ignorant, that this latter age hath brought forth a swarm of busie heads, which measure the great Mysteries of State, by the rule of their self-conceited wis­domes; but if they would consider, that the Commonwealth, governed by grave Counsellors, is like unto a Ship directed [Page 112] by a skilfull Pilot, vvhom the necessities of occasions, and grounds of reason, vvhy he steereth to this, or that point of the Compass, are better knovvn, then to those that stand a loof off, they vvould perhaps be more sparing, if not more vvary in their resolutions; For my ovvn particular I must confess, that I am na­turally too much inclined to his opini­on, vvho once said, Qui bene latuit, bene vixit, and freshly calling to mind the saying of Functius to his Friend, at the hour of his untimely death, Disce meo exemplo mandato munere fungi: Et fuge seu pestem—

I could easily forbeare to make my hand-vvriting the Record of my opini­on, vvhich nevertheless I protest to maintain rather deliberatively, than by the vvay of a conclusive assertion; there­fore vvithout vvasting precious time any longer vvith needless Prologues, I vvill briefly set dovvn the question in the terms follovving, viz.

Wh [...]ther it be more expedient to sup­pres Popish Practises, against the due Allegiance to his Majesty, by the strict Execution touching Jesu­it [...] and Seminary Priests: Or to re­strain them to close Prisons, du­ring life, if no Reformation fol­low.

In favour of the first Division.

I.

There are not few, Mercy fore­running the rapine of a mi­lefactor, is an ill Guardian of a Princes Person. who grounding themselves on an Antient Proverb, A dead man bites not, affirm, that such are dangerous to be preserved alive, who be­ing guilty, condemned, and full of fear, are likely for purchase of Life and Li­berty, to inlarge their uttermost in de­sperate adventures, against their King and Countrey.

II.

No less is it to be feared, A hard hand, suddenly remit­ted, is seldom by the rude people interpreted [...] the best sense. that while the sword of Justice is remiss, in cutting off heinous offendors against the Dig­nity of the Crown, the mis-led Papall multitude, in the interim, may enter into a jealous suspence, Whether that for­bearance proceed from fear of exasper­ating their desperate humours, or that it is now become questionable, Whether the execution of their Priests, be simply for matter of State, or pretended quarrel for Religon.

III.

And whereas in a remediless incon­venience, There is no hope of Reformati­on where there is no Confession of the fault. it is lawful to use the extremi­ty of Laws against some few, that many by the terrour of the example, may be re­formed; what hope can there be that Clemency may tame their hearts, who [Page 114] interpret His Majesties grace in tran­sporting their Priests out of His Realm, to be a meer shift to rid the Prisons of those whom Conscience could not con­demn of any capital crime.

IV.

Neither are their vaunting whisper­ings to be neglected, While Justice sleeps, the time serves to sow news, and raise Factions. by which they seek to confirm the fearful souls of their par­ty, and to inveigle the ignorant, doubt­ful or discontented persons: for if the glorious extolling of their powerful friends, and the expectance of a golden day, be suffered to win credit with the meaner fort, the relapse cannot be small, or the means easie to reform the error, without a general combustion of the State.

V.

Let experience speak somewhat in this behalf, Fearful spirits, by sufferance, grow insolent and cruel. which hath evidently descryed, within the Current of few years, that the forbearance of severity, hath multi­plied their Roll in such manner, that it remains as a Corrosive to thousands of his Majesties well-affected Subjects.

VI.

To what purpose serves it to muster the names of the Protestants, Vnion in a pre­pared conspira­cy prevails more than number. or to vaunt them to be ten for one of the Roman Fa­ction? as if bare figures of numeration could prevail against an united party, resolved, and advised before hand, how to turn their faces with assurance, unto [Page 115] all dangers, while in the mean time, the Protestants neastling in vain security, suffer the weed to grow up that threat­neth their hane and merciless ruine.

VII.

Sometime the Oath of Supremacy choaked their presumptuous imaginati­ons; It is hard to perswade those who by reason of their depen­dency on the Pope, are [...]carce masters of their own Souls. and yet could not that infernal smoke be smothered, nor the Locusts is­suing thereout be wholly cleansed from the face of this Land. Now that the tem­poral power of the King, conteined in the Oath of Allegiance, is by the Papall See, and many of the Adorers thereof, impudently avowed to be unlawful; shall the broachers of such Doctrine be suffered to live, yea and to live and be relieved of us, for whose destruction they groan daily?

VIII.

To be a right Popish-Priest, Malis bene­facere, tantu [...] ­dem est ac bo­nis inal [...] facere. in true En­glish sense, is to bear the Character of a disloyal Renegado of his natural obedi­ence to his Soveraign, whom if by con­nivency he shall let slip, or chastise with a light hand, what immunity may not traiterous Delinquents in lesser degrees expect, or challenge, after a sort, in equi­ty and justice?

IX.

If there were no Receivers, Fellowship i [...] misery easeth grief, and by the clamor of a multitude, Ju­stice is many times condem­ned. there would be no Theeves: Likewise if there were no harbourers of the Jesuits, it is to be presumed, that they would not [Page 116] trouble this Isle with their presence, therefore rigor must be extended against the Receiver, that the Jesuits may be kept out of dores; were it then indiffe­rent justice, to hang up the Accessary, and let the Principal go free, namely to suf­fer the Priest to draw his breath at length, whiles the Entertainer of him under his Roof submits his body to the Executioners hands? without doubt if it be fit to forbear the chief, it will be ne­cessary to receive the second offender in, to protection, wherewith a mischief must ensue of continual expence, and scan­dalous restraint of so great a number.

X.

Reputation is one of the principal Arteries of the Common-wealth, which Maxime, is so well known to the Secre­taries of the Papacy, that by private For­geries, and publique impressions of Ca­lumniations, they endeavour to wound us in that vital part; howsoever there­fore some few of that stamp, being better tempered then their fellows in defence of this present Government, have not spared to affirm that Tyranny is unjustly ascribed thereunto, for so much as free­dome of Conscience after a sort may be redeemed for money, notwithstanding there want not many Pamphleters of their side, It is not good to set price on that which being sold will bring re­pentance to the seller. who approbriously cast in our teeths, the converting of the penalty in­flicted on Recusants,and refusers of the [Page 117] Oath of Allegiance, from the Kings Ex­chequor, to a particular Purse, sure we cannot presume, that those Libellers may be diswaded from spitting out their venome maliciously against us, Wariness is to be used with those, Quines totam servitu­tem pati pos­sunt, nec totam Libertatem. when they shall see their Priests mewed up without further process of Law, for either they will attribute this calm dealing to the justice of their cause, the strength of their party, or patience; or that tract of time hath discovered out Laws, import­ing over much sharpness in good pollicy to be thought fitter for abrogation, by Non-usance, than repealed by a publique decree.

XI.

Moreover it is fore-thought, Most men write good Turns in Sand, and the bad in Marble. by some, tht if these Seminaries be only restrain­ed, they may prove hereafter like a Snake kept in the bosome, such as Bonner, Gar­diner, and others of the same Livery shewed themselves to be, after Liberty obtained in Queen Maries time, and if the loss of those Ghostly fathers ag­grieve them, it is probable, that they will take arms sooner, and with more cour­age, to free the living, then to set up a Trophy to the dead.

XII.

Howsoever, Fugitives that crave succour use to lie much in favour of their cause and power. the Jesuits band is known in their native soyl, to be defective in many respects, which makes them under­lings to the Protestants, as in Authority, Arms, and the protection of the Laws, [Page 118] which is all in all; Relation de Botero. It is a sig [...] when a Faction dares number their side, that there is an opinion conceived of sufficient strength, to at­tempt some In­novation. In a Common-wealth there ought to be one head, for which cause a Prince must be vigi­lant, when di­vers factions a­rise that by fa­vouring one, and neglecting the other, in­stead of a head of all he become only a member of one Party. Nevertheless they in­sinuate themselves to forraign Princes, favouring their party, with promises of strong assistance at home, if they may be well backed from abroad; To which pur­pose they have divided the inhabitants of this realm into four sects, whereof rank­ing their troupes in the first place (as due to the pretended Catholiques) they assumed a full fourth part to their pro­perty, and of that part again they made a subdivision into two portions, namely, of those that openly renounced the esta­bilished Church of England, and others, whose certain number could not be as­signed, because they frequented our sre­vice, our sacraments, reserving their hearts to the Lord God the Pope: The second party they alot to the Prote­stants, who retain yet (as they say) some reliques of their Church: The third rank and largest was left unto the Puri­tans, whom they hate deadly, in respect they will hold no indifferent quarter with Papistry: The fourth and last maniple they assign to the politicians, huomoni (say they) senza dio, & senza anima, men without fear of God, or regard of their Souls, who busying themselves only in matter of State, Discontented minds in begin­ning of Tu­mults will a­gree, though their ends [...]r di­vers. retain no sense of Re­ligion. Without doubt, if the Authors of this partition have cast their accompt a­right, we must confess that the latter brood is to be ascribed properly unto [Page 119] them; A multitude is never united in grose, but in some few heads which being ta­ken away, con­verteth their fury against the first movers of the Sedition. for if the undermyning of the Parliament house, the scandalizing of the King in print, who is Gods anoint­ed, and the refusal of natural obedience, be marks of those, that neither stand in awe of God or conscience, well may the Papists boast, that they are assured of the first number, and may presume likewise of the last friendship, when occasion shall be offered; for the preventing of which combination, Certain Germans in Henry the seconds time calling them­selves Publi­cans were marked with a hot Iron in the foreheads and whipped, being thrust out in the Winter, with a Prohibition that none should receive them into their houses, they dyed of hunger and cold. it is a sure way, to cut off the heads that should tie the knot, or at least to brand them with a mark in the forehead before they be dismissed, or (after the opinion of others) to make them unwelcome to the feminine sex, which now with great fervency imbra­ceth them.

These are for the most part Arguments vented in ordinary Discourse, by many who suppose a Priests breath to be contagious in our English air.

Others there are, who maintain the se­cond part of the Question, with rea­sons not unworthy of observance.

In favour of the second Division.

I.

DEath is the end of temporal woes; Rooted suspi­tion, being vio­lently handled, groweth more wary, but not less obstinate. but it may in no wise be accounted the Grave of memory; therefore how­soever it is in the power of Justice to suppress the Person of a man, the o­pinion for which he suffered (conceived truly, or untruly in the hearts of a multitude) is not subject to the edge of any sword, how sharp or keen soever. I confess that the teeth are soon blunted that bite only out of the malice of a sin­gular faction, but where Poyson is diffused through the Veins of a Com­mon-wealth, with inermixture of bloud good and bad; separation is to be made rather by patient evacuati­on, than by present incision; the grea­test biter of a State is Envy, joyned with the thirst of Revenge, If conspirators have one sym­pathy of mind, the conspiracy is never wholly suppressed, so long as one of them remain­eth. which sel­dome declares it self in plain colours, until a jealousie conceived of personal dangers, breaketh out into desperate resolutions; hence comes it to pass, that when one male-contented mem­ber is grieved the rest of the body [Page 121] is sensible thereof, neither can a Priest or Jesuit be cut off, without a ge­neral murmur of their Secretaries, which being confident in their number, secretly Arm for opposition, or con­firmed with their Martyrs Bloud (as they are perswaded) resolve by pati­ence and sufferance to glorifie their cause, and merit Heaven. Do we not daily see, that it is easier to confront a private enemy, than a Society or Cor­poration? Opinion setled in a multitude, is like Hydraes heads, which must be cured with scarring and not by le [...] ­ting bloud. and that the hatred of a State is more immortal, than the Spleen of a Monarchy, therefore except it be demonstrated, that the whole Roman City, which consists not of one brood, may be cut off at the first stroke as one entire head, I see no cause to think our State secured, by setting on the skirts of some few Seminaries, leaving in the mean time a multitude of Snar­lers abroad, who already shew their Teeth, and only wait opportunity to bite fiercely. I will not deny, that, what we fear, we commonly hate, provided alwayes, that no merit hath interceded a reconciliation; for there is great difference between hatred con­ceived against him that will take away the life, Clemency is a Divine instinct, and worketh supernal effects. and him that may justly do it, and yet in clemency forbears to put it in effect; for the latter breedeth reverend aw, whereas the former subjecteth to servile fear, alwayes accompanied with [Page 122] desire of innovations, and although it hath been affirmed of the Church of Rome, Gorticii Axio­mata Politica. Quod Pontificium genus semper cru­dele, nevertheless out of Charity let us hope, that all devils are not so black as they are painted, some, or perhaps many of them there are, whom conscience, or in default thereof, pure shame of the world will constrain to confess that his Majesty most graciously distinguisheth the Theory of Popery; Tacitus in vita Agricol. from the Active part thereof, as being naturally inclined, Parvis peccatis veniam, magnis Severita­tem commodare, nec poena semper, sed saepius poenitentia contentus esse.

II.

Mistaking of punishments Legally in­flicted, commonly proceeds from fond pitty, or the interest which we have in the same cause; both which beget blind partiality; admit then, that the Papall side, When Traitors in evils will not choose the least, it is an argument that they are desper­ate, and breath nothing but extremity of mischief. affecting merit by compassion, may be nearly touched with the re­straint of their Seminaries, it cannot be denyed I hope, except they had the hearts of Tygers, that in humanity they will prefer their ease of durance, be­fore the rigor of death; and albeit that Parsons, Bellarmin, and the Pope him­self, constrain their spiritual Children, to thrust their fingers into the fire, by refusing the Oath of Allegiance, not­withstanding we have many testimonies in judicial Courts, and printed Books, [Page 123] that the greater part of them are of that Theban hunters mind, who would rather have seen his Dogs cruel acts, then have felt them to his own cost.

Garnett himself also in one of his se­cret Letters, It was a precept of Machivells, to put on the mask of Religi­on. that after his death he should not be inrolled amongst the Martyrs, because that no matter of Religion was objected against him; yet it plainly appeared in his demeanour, that he would gladly have survived the possibility of that glory, if any such hopes had remained. Neither is it to be presumed, that being in Prison, he would ever have conceived that we durst not touch his Reverence, So it pleased Parsons to ca­vil, of whom it might be truly spoken, Malus malum pejorem esse vult, & sui similem. or that the Law was remiss which had justly con­demned him, and left his life to the Kings mercy. It was the distance of the place and not Parsons that interpreted the sending over-seas of the Priests to be a greater argument of their inno­cency, than of his Majesties forbear­ance; For had Father Parsons himself been Coram nobis, his Song would rather have been of mercy then justice. It is truly said, that we are all instructed better by examples then precepts, there­fore if the Laws printed, and In­dictments recorded, cannot controul the Calumniations of those that wil­fully will mistake Treason, for Reli­gion: By the execution of two or three of that back-biting number, I [Page 124] doubt not but the question may readily be decided.

—Namque immedicabile vulnus, Ense recidendum est, Ne pars sincera tra­hatur.

III.

To dally with pragmatical Papists, especially with those that by their ex­ample and Counsel pvevert his Maje­sties Subjects, To bestow be­nefits on the b [...]d, maketh them worse and vilifieth the re­ward of the vertuous. I hold it a point of meer injustice; For, what comfort may the good expect, when the bad are by connivency free to speak, and imbol­dened to put their disloyal thoughts into execution? For explaning there­fore of my meaning, it is necessary to have a regard unto the nature of the Kings Liege-People, that are to be reformed by example of justice, and others, Forraigners, who will we, nill we, must be censurers of our actions; It hath been truly observed that the Nations of Europe, which are most remote from Rome, are more superstitiously inclined to the dregs of that place, then the nearer neigh­bours of Italy, whether that humour proceeds from the Complexion of the Northern Bodies, which is naturally more retentive of old Customes, than hotter Regions; or that the vices of the City, seated on seven Hills, are [Page 125] by crafty Ministers of that See, con­cealed from the vulgar sort, I list not now to discuss; but most certain it is, that the people of this Isle exceed the Romans in zeal of their profession; In so much that in Rome it self, I have heard the English Fugitives taxed by the name of Pichia pelli Inglesi, Knock-brests, id est, Hypocrits; now as our Countrey-men take surer hold­fast of Papall traditions, then others; so are they naturally better fortified with a Courage to endure Death for the maintenance of that cause; for this Clymate is of that temperature out of which Vegetius holdeth it fittest to chuse a valiant souldier, where the Heart finding it self provided with plenty of bloud to sustain suddain de­fects, Valour is often overcome by weakness, but being too much prized it turn­eth to unbridled furies. Is not so soon apprehensive of death or dangers, as where the store­house of bloud being small, every haz­zard maketh pale cheeks and trembling hands: Angli (say Ancient writers) bello intrepidi, nec mortis sensu deter­rentur; And thereunto Botero the Ita­lian beareth witness in his Relations; Many strangers therefore coming out of Forraign parts among the rari­ties of England desire to see whe­ther Report hath not been too lavish, in affirming that our con­demned Persons yield their Bodies to Death with cheerfullnesse, and [Page 126] were it not that by daily experi­ence we can call our selves to wit­ness of this truth, The best Laws are made out of those good Cu­stomes, where­unto the people is naturally in­clined. I could produce the Reverend Judge Fortescue, who in commendation of our English Laws, made suitable (as he well observeth) to the imbred Conditions of the imhabi­tants of this soil, avoweth, that the English people in tryal for Criminal causes, Vse to see men dye with resolu­tion, taketh a­way the fear of death, for which purpose the Ro­mans used the fights of their Gladiators. are not compelled by tortures to confess as in other Nations it is u­sed, for as much as the quality of the English is known to be less fearful of death than of torments, for which cause if the torments of the Civil Law were offered to an innocent person in England, he would rather yield him­self guilty, and suffer death, then endure the horror of lingring pains. Insulani plerunque Fures (saith one) and so true it is, that this Countrey [...] stained with that imputation, notwith­standing that many are put to death, to the end that others by their fall, might learn in time to beware; If then it do appear that terrour prevails not, The Hereticks called Publi­cans when they were whipped they took their punishment gladly, their Captain Ger­rard going before them and singing, Blessed are you when men do hate you. Andromache [...]. Si vis vitam minitare. Seneca [...]rag. to keep men from offences which are condemned by Law, and Conscience, what assurance can there be to scare those, who are constantly satisfied in [Page 127] their minds, that their sufferings are either expresly, or by implicitation for matter of Religion and health of their Souls; in such case to threaten death to English-men, Quibus nihil interest humine sublimi ne putrescant, is a mat­ter of small consequence, Purpuratis Gallis, Italis, aut Hispanis, ista minitare, to a setled resolution it boots not to shew the dreadful visor of death; Me­naces to prolong a wearisome life, prevail much more in such cases. Rightly did Clement the eighth consi­der, Worldly des [...]res, may be quench­ed with godly meditations, our beavenly hopes cannot be aba­ted by earthly punishments. that by burning two English-men in Rome for supposed Heresie, he ra­ther impaired his Cause than better'd it, insomuch that many present at the resolute death of Mr. Marsh, who was brought to dust in Campo di Sancta Fiore, spared not to proclaim himself a Martyr, carried away of his ashes for a Relique, and wished their souls in the same place with his; which news brought to the Popes ear, caused him (as it was bruited about Rome) solemnly to protest, that none of the English Nation should pub­liquely from that time be consumed with fire: on the other side if we read the Volumes written in praise of their Priests Constancy, the Mar­tyrology or Callender of Martyrs, and path way of Salvation as it were, chalked out unto the Papists, by sa­crifizing [Page 128] their lives for the Pope, It is a point of wisdome to maintain the truth with as little disputa­tion as may be, least a good cause be mar­red with ill handling. we shall find that by taking away of one we have confirmed and united many, whereof I could give particular in­stance, if I thought any scruple were made in that point. As for forraign parts which hold with the Papall Su­premacy, it is clear that they will be severe, and partial judges in this cause; for albeit that here in England, It is well known to all true and loyal Sub­jects, Truth seldome prevaileth with the partiality of the people, which being ignorant is carried away with the out­ward sem­blance of things. that for matter of Roman do­ctrine, no mans life is directly called into question? but that their disobe­dience in reason of State is the motive of their persecution; Nevertheless where a great Canker of Christendome is rooted in a contrary opinion, and things in this world are for the most part esteemed by outward appearance, this Land cannot escape malicious scan­dalls, neither shall there be want of Colleges to supply their Faction with Seminaries; It is hard to make a rule so general, against which diffe­rence of Cir­cumstance may not except. Therefore again and again, I say, that if the state of the question were so set, that it were possible by a general execution of the Priests, and their adherents, to end the contro­versie, I could in some sort with bet­ter will, subscribe thereunto; But seeing I find little hope in that course, I hold it safer to be ambitious of the victory, which is purchased with less loss of bloud; and to proceed as Tully [Page 129] teacheth his Orator, vvho vvhen he can­not vvholly overthrow his Adversary, yet ought he to do it in some part, and with all endeavour to confirm his own party in the best manner that may be.

IV.

He that forbeareth to sow his ground in expectance of a good Winde or favo­rable Moon, commonly hath a poor crop and purse; so shall it fare with this State; if private whisparings of dis­contented persons, that never learn't to speak well, be too nicely regarded, He that is culumniated by many, is in danger, first to be suspected by his friends, and shortly to be condemned if the slandes continue. yet ought they not to be sleightly set at nought, lest our credit grow light, e­ven in the ballance of our dearest friends. The Papisticall Libellers inform against us, as if we were desirous to grow fat with sucking of their bloud, the very walls of their Seminary Colledge at Rome are bedawbed vvith their lying Phansies, and in every corner the Cor­ner-creepers leave some badge of their malicious spleen against us, crying out of Cruelty and Persecution; but if the penalty of death be changed into a sim­ple indurance of prison, what moat in our eyes can they finde to pull out? or vvith vvhat Rhetorick can they defend their obstinate malapartness, That Counsel takes best effect that is fitted to the nature of times and persons. which with repaying us ill for good, deserve to have coals of indignation poured upon their heads? Visne muliebre Consilium? [Page 130] said Livia to Augustus; Let severity sleep a while, and try what alterati­on the pardoning of Cinna may pro­cure; The Emperour hearkned to her Counsell, and thereby found his Ene­mies mouthes stopped, and the fury of their malice abated. Some there are perchance that will term this Clemen­cy innovation; and vouch the Presi­dent of that City, which permitteth none to propound new Laws, that had not a cord about their necks ready for vengeance, Those Changes of States are safely made, which reser­ving most of the Ancient form, betters it and reduces the defects into order. if it were found unprofita­ble; but let such Stoicks know, that there is great difference between the penning of a Law, and advice giving for the manner of executing it; neither (by their leaves) are all innovations to be rejected, for divine Plato teacheth us, that in all Common-wealths upon just grounds, there ought to be some changes, and that States men therein must behave themselves like skilfull mu­sicians, Qui artem musices non mutant, sed musices modum.

V.

That an evil weed groweth fast, The Church is most zealous, when Persecu­tion is fresh in memory; when those times are forgotten, we gr [...]w to loath that which we enjoy freely. by the example of the new Catholique in­crease, is clearly convinced; but he that will ascribe this generation simply to his Majesties heroicall vertue of Clemency, argueth out of fallacy, which is called Ignoratio Elenchi; was not the zeal of many cooled towards the last end of [Page 131] Queen Elizabeths Raign? hath not the impertinent heat of some of our own side bereft us of part of our strength, and the Papacy with tract of time gotten a hard skin on their Conscien­ces?

Parva metus primo, mox sese attollit in altum?

But if we will with a better insight behold how this great quantity of spaun is multiplied, we must especially as­cribe the cause thereof to their Priests, who by their deaths prepare and assure more to their sect, than by their lives they could ever perswade; It were in­civility to distrust a Friend, or one that hath the shew of an honest man, if he will frankly give his word, or confirm it with an Oath, but when a Prote­station is made upon the last gasp of life, it is of great effect to those that cannot gainesay it upon their owne knowledge.

The number of Priests which now adayes come to make a Tragicall con­clusion is not great; In this case the [...]uestion is not so much of the truth of it, as who shall be Judge, and what Censure will be given. yet as with one Seal many Patents are sealed; so, with the loss of few lives numbers of wave­ring spirits may be gained, Sanguis Martyrum, Semen Ecclesieae; And though those Priests having a disadvantagious cause, are in very deed but counter­feit shadowes of Martyrs unto a true understanding, yet will they be repu­ted [Page 132] for such, by those that lay their Souls in pawn unto their Doctrine, with whom if we list to contend by mul­titude of voices, vve shall be cried down vvithout all peradventure, for the gate of their Church is vvide, and many there are that enter thereinto.

VI.

By divers means it is possible to come to one and the self same end; seeing then that the summe of our vvell-vvish­ing is all one, namely that Popish Priests may have no power to do harm, it is not impertinent to try sundry paths, In the first 11 years of Q. Eliz. it was rasier to sub­due Popery, than now, for then they fea­red to irritate the State, not knowing how farre severity might extend, now knowing the worst, they are resol­ved Agere & [...]ati [...]ortia. vvhich may lead us to the perfe­cting of our desires. Politicians distin­guish inter rempublicam constitutam & rempublicam constituendam, according to the severall natures vvhereof Statists art to dispose of their Counsells and Ordi­nances; vvere now the Rhemists and Romulists new hatched out of the shell, the former course of severity might soon bury their opinions with their per­sons, but since the disease is inveterate, variety of medicines is judicially to be applyed. The Romans did not punish all crimes of one and the selfsame na­ture vvith extremity of death; for some they condemned to perpetuall prison; and others they banished into an Island or some remote Countrey; e­ven in the case of Religion they vvere very tender to dip their fingers in [Page 133] bloud; for vvhen Cato vvas Consull, (and it seemed good unto the Senate to suppress with violence the disordered Ceremony of the Bacchanalls, brought by a strange Priest into the City) he vvithstood that sentence, alledging that there vvas nothing so apt to deceive men as Religion, vvhich alwayes pretends a shew of divinity: and for that cause, it behoved to be very vvary in chasti­sing the professors thereof, lest any indignation should enter into the peo­ples minds, Vulgu [...] est mo­rosum animal, quod facilius duci, quam cogi potest. that some-what vvas dero­gated from the Majesty of God. O­thers (more freely) have not spared to place Relgion, (I mean that Reli­gion vvhich is ignorantly zealous) a­mongst the kinds of Frenzie, vvhich is not to be cured otherwise than by time given to divert, or qualifie the fury of the conceipt, ‘Tantum Religio potuit suadere malorum.’

VII.

Howsoever in valuing the power of a City or strength of arguments, Many P [...]rti­zans encou­rage the faint [...]hearted, and when an one my cannot prevail against number, his thoughts are not how to of­fend, but how to make a safe retreat. quality and vvorth is to be preferred before number; nevertheless vvhere the utter­most of our force is not known, it im­ports much to have it conceived; That the multitude stands for us, for doubts and suspicions cast in an ene­mies vvay evermore makes things seem greater, and more difficult than they are indeed; vve have by Gods mer­cy [Page 134] the Sword of justice drawn in our behalf, which upon short warning is able to disunite the secret underminers of our quiet; we have a King zealous for the house of the Lord, More Priests may be shut up in a year than they can make in many. who nee­deth not to feare less success in shut­ting up of Priests, than our late Queen had, in restraining them in Wisbich Castle, where lest their factious Spi­rits should grow rusty, they conver­ted their Cancer to fret upon them­selves, and vomitting out Gall in Quod-libets, shewed that their disease was chiefly predominant in the spleen; what tempests they have raised in their College at Rome, De [...]s [...]re of in­ [...]ovation is [...]sh and con­ [...]entions▪ and therefore can hardly agree of a head. their own books, and many travellers can witness; the storm whereof was such, that Sixtus Quintus complained seriously of the vexation which he received oftner from the English Scholars, then all the Vas­sals of the Triple Crown; and untru­ly is the Magistrate noted of negligence or overmuch security, that layeth wait to catch the Foxes, and the little Foxes which spoyl the Vineyard, T [...]ce is al­wayes to be wished Pro­vided that un­der the canker thereof, there be not a mis­chief entertai­ned worse than War if self. though af­terwards without further punishment he reserve them to the day wherein God will take accompt of their Stewardship; for if Aristotles City, defined to be a so­ciety of men assembled to live well, be the same which in our Law, hath refe­rence to the maintaining of the people in Peace, so long as we taste of the [Page 135] sweet of a peaceable Government we cannot say but that we live well, and that the City consisting of men and not of walls is happily guided.

VIII.

An Oath is a weak bond to contain him that will for pretended conscience sake hold not faith with heretiques, An oath is of force, so long as it is thought lawfull, when that opinion is crazed, it doth more hurt then good. or by absolution from a Priest thinketh him­self at liberty to fly from any promise or protestation whatsoever; therefore when I remember that Watson the Priest, notwithstanding his invectives against the Jesuits, gained liberty to forge his traiterous inventions, and had others of his society in the complot, I judge if safer to make recluses of them, than to suffer such to dally with us by books, and some idle intelligences cast abroad onely as a mist to bleare our eyes. But how shall we finde the meanes to apprehend those disguised Romanists that borrow the shape of Captaines, Merchants, Gentlemen, Citizens, and all sorts of people, and by equivocati­on may deny themselves to be them­selves? In answer to this question, I will first shew the reason why they are not pursued and taken, and hereafter make an overture how they may be bolt­ed out of their hutches; the nature of Man howsoever in hot bloud, it be thir­sty of revenge, in a cold temper it hath a kind of Nausea as I may call it, or a di­staste [Page 136] of taking away the lives, One man in another be­holdeth the Image of him­self, and there by groweth compassionate and sen [...]ible of that which may fall to himself. even of the Nocent, insomuch that in all Sises and Sessions, an offender can hardly be condemned, whom the foolish pitty of man will not after a sort excuse, with laying some imputation on the Judge, part on the Jury, and much on the Ac­cuser; and such is their blind affecti­on, that the prisoner who perhaps was never recommended for handsomeness, will be esteemed of them, for one of the properest men in the company; from hence it comes that the name of Serjeant, or Pursevant is odious, and the executioner, although he be the hand of justice, is esteemed no better than an enemy of mankind, and one that lost honesty and humanity in his cradle; Reverend Master Fox was wont to say, that spies and accusers were necessary members in a Common-wealth, and deserved to be cherished, but for his own part he would not be any of that number, or wish his friends to affect such imployments; and albeit that the Law permits, What men do unwillingly is never done ef­fectually. and commands every man to apprehend a felon, do we not see commonly very many content to stand by and look on while others performe that office? likewise it is evident, that if such as are tender of their reputations, be very scrupulous personally to arrest men, for civill actions of debt, they will be more unwilling instruments of [Page 137] drawing their bodies to the Rack or the Gallowes, especially when there is any colour of Religion to be pretended in their defence; the diversity of mens faces is great, but the difference of their minds in this case is more varia­ble, wherein the meanest have thought as free as the highest; besides this, there are too many of the blind commonalty altogether Popish, though indeed they make honourable amends for their trea­son; verily I know not what misguiding of the mind it is, that maketh men fore­cast the possibility of alteration in mat­ters of Relgion, When many tumultuous persons assault, there will be a fray. and for that respect they are exceeding backward in disco­very, and laying hands on Seminaries, yea and are timorous in enacting sharp Lawes against them, as those that si­lently say amongst themselves,

Sors hodierna mihi, cras erit illa tibi.

S [...]me also survive? Who, remember that in Queen Maries time, the Prote­stants alledged a Text, that the tares should not be plucked up before harvest, nay shall I speak a buggs word, there is no small number that stand doubtfull whether it be a gratefull work to cross Popery, or that it may be done safely without a foul aspersion of Puritanism, or a shrewd turn of their labours, at some time or other, by which unhappy ambiguity it comes to pass, that these Animalia Amphibia (the Priests I mean) [Page 138] that prey on the Souls and bodies of either sex, Vertue neither praised nor rewarded wax­eth cold. unatached, revell where they list, though they be more seen than a man dancing in a Net; how much fit­ter were it for us couragiously to invite them to our party, by preaching or con­futing them by writing, and unto the State wherein we stand, wisely to apply the saying of the Assirian King to his Souldiers, You are fools (quoth he) if there be any hope in your hearts to redress sorrow by flight, or rather indeavour to make them fly that are the causers of your grief, assuring your selves, that more perish in flight, then in the Battail, even as many seeking to meet the Papists half way discomfort our own party.

IX.

It followeth now (according to the Method prescribed) that an overture be made to get the Jesuits and their sha­dowes the Priests, An ill name given to a good thing discourageth men from medling with it. into possession; it hath been heretofore recited, that the unwelcome name of a bloud-sucker, a busie-body, or a Puritane, hath been shrewd Scar-crowes unto many honest minds; by abrogating therefore of those or such like imputations many will be stirred up to undertake the apprehen­ding of the adversaries unto the truth, especially when for their pains and time imployed, they shall deserve and have the title of good Patriots, dutifull [Page 139] Subjects, Wise men do forecast how to do most with least noise. and zealous Christians; how ready is every common person to carry a malefactor to the stocks, rather then unto the Gaole or execution? and doubtless they will be no less forward to attach a Priest, when they are assu­red that the worst of his punishment shall be a simple restraint within the walls of an old Castle. A certain kind of people there is, with whom money playes a more forcible Orators part, then any perswasion of the dutifull service which they owe to the Com­monwealth, these men will not be neg­ligent to give intelligence, and also to procure it faithfully; Provided that reward may help to line their thread­bare purses, and exempt them from need to sell liberty unto Seminaries; and where assurance of gaine is pro­pounded for discovery, what master or house-keeper will trust his servant with keeping of his Priest, or sleepe quietly while he is engaged to the dan­ger of a Mercenary? I remember that in Italy it was often told me, That the bountifull hand of Sir Francis Wal­singham made his Intelligencers so active, that a Seminary could scarcely stir out of the gates of Rome without his privi­ty, which success by mediation of gold may as readily be obtained from Syvill, [...]dolid, Doway, [...] Paris, and any other places, and by [Page 140] forewarning given of their approach, they may be waited for at the Ports, and from thence soon conveyed to a safe lodging. But whence shall the stream flowe that must feed this boun­ty? it is a doubt easily satisfied, if some thousands of Poundes out of the Recusants penalties be reserved in stock, and committed by his Majesty unto the disposition of zealous distributers, who will not be afraid to conclude Perdat fiscus, Particular of­ficers must be appointed, what is to all is commonly performed by none. ut capiat Christus; neither need we seeke any further succour to repair decayed Castles, and therein to defray the charge of the Priests, with a sure guard to keep them, than the aforesaid forfeitures that by the Justice of the Law may be collected; which course if every it come happily to be entertained, and that Recusancy cease to be an ignominious prey to the sub­ject, the proceedings for Religion shall be less blamed, and perhaps altoge­ther unjustly accused by any grace­less Gretzerus or Cacodaemon Johannes, tincting their pens in Gall and Vine­ger; for besides occasion of Calum­niation given by sutes of that na­ture, it is evident that many Recu­sants that would be indicted for the King, and the effecting the Project aforesaid, shall escape without punish­ment, and be borne out against the power of a private person; begging to [Page 141] no other purpose, The service done for the Kings proper use, hath his Warrant and Countenance, but when a pri­vate man hath the gain, nei­ther reward [...]r bearing out can be expect­ed; and by con­sequence Re­cusants are free. than hath hereto­fore been used: and albeit the penal­ty be rated at 20 l. a moneth, yet was it never the Law-makers intent, that such as were not able to pay so great a summe, should go scot-free, but that according to the proportion of their ability, they should do the penance of their Purses, whereas now if the voice of the people (which is said to be the voice of God) is to be credited, the poorer sort is skipt over, as if they ow­ed no souls to God, nor duty to their Soveraign. A poor Man (saith one) is to be pittied, if he offend through necessity, but if he do amiss volun­tarily, he is more severely to be cha­stised, for so much as wanting friends, and meanes to bear him out, if shew­eth that this fault proceeds from pre­sumption.

X.

Let us now pre-suppose, that all the whole Regiment of Jesuits of Semina­ries were lodged in safe custody, may we then perswade our selves, that Po­pery will vanish like a dumb shew; I am clearly resolved that though it re­ceive a great eclipse, notwithstanding without other helps the Kingdome of Antichrist will onely be hidden, as a weed that seems withered in the Win­ter, and is ready to sprout out vvith the Spring. Temporall armes are re­medies [Page 142] serving for a time, Medicines that work in the spirits of men, are of greater force, and cure more surely then outward Plaisters. but the Spirituall sword is permanent in ope­ration, and by an invisible blow workes more than mortall man can imagine. The word of God carrieth this two-edged weapon in his mouth, which is to be used by faithfull Mini­sters of the Church, whom pure zeal, without respect to worldly promotion, or persons, ought to encourage: Of Judges the Scripture saith Estote fortes; and daily we see, that sitting in their ju­diciall seats, God inspireth them with greater courage, than when, as private persons, they are to give their opinions; no less is the power of the Holy Ghost in his servants, Speech is the interpreter of the minde, therefore who so useth in Di­vine matters to speak reserved­ly, and in a double sense, he will be s [...]s­pected to have a double heart, and unfit to teach them that trust him not. that out of the Pulpit are to deliver his Ambassage; let them therefore not be dismaid to speak out plainly, and tell the truth, without run­ning a middle course between heat and cold, unprofitable discanting upon the Scripture, with an Old postile, or for want of better matter waste the poor time shut up in an hour-glass, with skirmishing against the worthy Pillars of our own profession: Rumor which is ever ready to take hold of evill, hath raised a secret, though (as I hope) a causless suspicion, that there should be some combination underhand, by chan­ging the state of questions, to put us in our old dayes to learn a new Ca­techisme, and when they have brought [Page 143] us out of conceipt with the Reverend Interpreters of the Word, to use us then as the Wolves (mentioned in Demosthe­nes Apology) handled the Shepheards when they had delivered up their Dogs. Most sacred was that Speech of our gracious King concerning Vorstius, He that will speak of Canaan, let him speak the language of Canaan. How can we draw others to our Church, if we can­not agree, where, and how to lay our foundation? or how may we cleanse the Leprous disease of dissention, which the Papists which are least assured to themselves, A good Pust [...] is the Physician of the Soul, and ought to apply his do­ctrine accor­ding to the tenderness or hardness of the Conscience▪ for want of which discretion some mens zeal hath done hurt. and most doubtfull of their Salvation, are not ashamed to ascribe unto many of us? I would not have Mi­nisters indiscreet like Dogs to barke against all, whether they know or know them not, I like better the opi­nion of Aristotle, who adviseth those that stand in guard of a place, to be curst onely to such as are about to endammage the City: If Pursevants or other Civil Officers, would learn to keep this rule, they might go about their business with much credit. The imagined fear of inviting the Romish Faction by force to deliver their Ghost­ly Fathers out of Prison, moves me not a whit; for I cannot believe that they esteeme them at so dear a price, as they would runne the hazard, by free­ing others out of hold, to put them­selves [Page 144] into their places. Some will say that a man of Straw is a head good enough for a discontented multitude; That the Papists are very chollerique it appears sufficiently by their writings, yet it hath pleased God to send those curst Cowes short hornes; that when they should not finde a man of suffici­ency to serve their turn, False miracles and lying news are the food of superstition, which by cre­dulity delude ignorant people they were faine to do homage to Garnetts straw, forgetfull as they are that such stubble cannot endure the tryall of fire: But unto us, that ought to be Doers, as well as Professors of the Gospell, let this remain as a memorable Theorem; Religion is the Mother of good order, Good order is the cause of prosperous Fortune, and happy Successe in all Coun­sells, and enterprises, Therefore in what estate soever there wanteth good or­der, it is an evident Argument that Re­ligion goes backward.

XI.

I have ever held it for a kinde of Injustice to omit the execution of mean Lawes, God which is the great Law­maker, by his Laws prevents sins, to the end punishments may be inflict­ed on it justly; as to avoid I­dolatry, he for­biddeth making of Images; He that cannot live chast, let him marry, &c. made to prevent the effects of Idleness, and then to apply main ex­tremity of the sword, when the pro­ling habit gotten by that vice comes to light; no less is the course uncha­ritable (with pardon for this presumpti­on be it spoken) when we spare them that have no Religion at all, and cen­sure those that can give an accompt of [Page 145] somewhat tending to that purpose. He that is in misery must be born withall if he speake miserably, and when the child from his mothers brest hath suck­ed nothing but Popery, a man had need to be angry with discretion if he hear him speake in the voice of a Papist. God calleth some by miracle, but the ordinary meanes is his Word; if that meanes in any place of this Land be wanting, of what Religion is it likeli­est the people will be? I suppose that few men will gainesay my assertion, that outward sence will direct them to Popery, which is fuller of Pageants than of spirituall doctrine; and what is the cause that after so many yeares preaching of the Gospell, the Common people still retaine a scent of the Ro­man perfume? the Cause is for that the formall obedience of coming to Church hath been more expected than the in­struction of private families, A man is said to know so much as he re­membreth, and no more; and we remember best, what we learn in our youth, there­fore if we will be wise when we are old, we must be taught when we are young. publique Catechizing is of great use, but the first Elements thereof are to be learnt at home, and those things which we learn from our Parents, sticke more surely in our mindes; what was the cause why the Spartans continued their Government so many Revolutions of times, without mutation? Histories re­cord, that learning their Countrey Cu­stomes from their Infancy, they could not be induced to alter them; And [Page 146] in this our native soile we perceive, Out of Oeco­nomicall Go­vernment, the diversity of States grow, & such as a [...]rin­ces house, is the State of the Commons for the most part: by which rea­son a Prince may be the Survey of his House, have an aim how the Common­wealth is affe­cted. that the Common Lawes which rely on antient Customes, are better obser­ved than late Statutes, of what worth soever they be: So doth it fare with the poore people, which being once seasoned with the old dreggs of Pa­pisme, will hardly be drawn from it, till the Learning of the true Faith be growne to a Custome. I will pre­scribe no order nor Officers, to ef­fect this; but I suppose that the an­tient laudable course, by the Bishops confirmation, will not be sufficient to fulfill so great a taske, the Mini­ster must and ought to be the Principall and immediate hand to give assistance to so gracious a worke; and in case any be defective in their duty, the Reverend BISHOPS may take notice thereof in their severall Visita­tions.

Perhaps it will be thought a hard task to constrain old people to learn the A. B. C. of their Christian beliefe, By the Lawes there were Ty­thing men, who gave accompt for ten houholds: Some such Officers might be good in this case: for I hold the breaking of the breaking of the Sabbath to be the ruine of our Religion. but how hard soever it be, I hold it no incivility to prepare people of all ages for the Kingdome of Heaven. By the order contained in the Book of Com­mon Prayer, on Sundayes and Holy­dayes, half an houre before evensong the Curate of every parish ought to ex­amine children sent unto him, in some points of the Catechisme; and all Fa­thers, [Page 147] Mothers, Masters and Dames, should cause their Children, Servants, and Prentises, to resort unto the Church at the time appointed, there to heare and be obediently ordered, by the Curate, untill such time as they have learnt all that in the said Booke is commanded, and when the Bishops shall appoint the Children to bee brought before them, for their Confir­mation, the Curate of every Parish shall send or bring the names of those Children of his Parish which can answer to the questions of the Cate­chisme; It were fit also that they learnt how to distin­guish the com­mon grounds of Propery, where­by the Priests deceive poor people. and there ought none to be ad­mitted to the Holy Communion, un­till such time as he can say his Cate­chisme, and bee confirmed, Many times I have stood amazed, to behold the Magnificence of our Ancestours buildings, which their Successours at this day are not able to keepe up, but when I cast mine eyes upon this ex­cellent Foundation laid by the Fathers of the CHURCH, and perceive their Children neglect to build thereupon, with exceeding marvell, I rest almost besides my selfe, for never was there better ground-plot layd, which hath been seconded with lesse successe: It was not the Bull of Pius Quintus on the Bishop of Londons Doores, or the forbearing to hang up Priests that have wrought this Apostacy, but the Idle­ness [Page 148] and insufficiency of many tea­chers, He that knows not the true cause of an e­vil, cannot help it but by Change, which is a dangerous guide of a State. conspiring with the peoples cold zeale, that hath beene the Contriver of this Webb. Untill the eleventh yeare of Queene Elizabeths Raigne, a Recusants name was scarcely knowne, the Reason was because that the zeale begotten in the time of the Marian Per­secution was yet fresh in memory, and the late Persecutors were so amazed with the sudden alteration of Religion; that they could not chuse but say, Di­gitus Dei est hic. In those dayes there was an emulation betweene the Cler­gy and the Laity; and a strife arose whether of them should shew them­selves most affectionate to the Gos­pell; Where good men are afraid to call a vice by the Proper name, it is a sign that the vice is common, and that great persons (whom it is not safe to anger) are in­fected there­with. Ministers haunted the Houses of worthiest men, where Jesuits now build their Tabernacles; and poor Coun­trey Churches were frequented with the best of the Shire; the Word of God was precious, Prayer and Preaching went hand in hand together, untill Archbishop Grindai [...]s disgrace, and Hatefields hard conceipt of Prophecy­ing brought the flowing of those good graces to a still water; the name of a Papist smelt ranck even in their owne nostrills, and for pure shame to be ac­compted such, they resorted duely both to our Churches and Exercises; [...]e Schism. An­glicano & vis. M [...]n. Eccles. but when they saw their great Coriphaeus Sanders had slily pinned the names of [Page 149] Puritans upon the sleeves of the Prote­stants that encountered them with most courage, and perceived that the Word was pleasing to some of our own side, they took heart at grasse, to set lit­tle by the service of God, and duty to their Soveraign.

Therewith start up from amongst us, Some think that if these mens zeal h [...]d by order been put to imploy it self other­wayes, and a task set them to doe some good and me­morable thing in the Church, they might have been reformed, or made harm­lesse by diversi­on. some that might have been recom­mended for their zeale, if it had been tempered with discretion, who fore­running the Authority of the Magi­strate, took upon them in sundry places and publiquely to censure whatsoever agreed not with their private conceipts, with which grosse humours vented in Pulpits and Pamphlets, most men grew to be frozen in zeal, and in such sort benummed, that whosoever (as the worthy Lord Keeper Bacon observed, in those dayes) pretended a little spark of earnestnesse, Head-strong Papists are not easily subdued, yet must they not be suffered to grow to a Faction, Dis­cretio pro lege discernere quid sic res▪ must lay the burthen in the right place. he seemed no lesse than red fire hot, in comparison of the other. And as some fare the worse for an ill neighbours sake, dwelling beside them, so did it betide the Protestants, who seeking to curbe the Papists, or re­prove an idle drone, were incontinent­ly branded with the ignominious note of Precisian, all vvhich vvind brought plenty of vvater to the Popes Mill, and there vvill most men grinde vvhere they see apparance to be vvell served.

XII.

If without great inconveniency, W [...]thout Re­formation in this point. Po­pery will still encrease, but as all vertuous enterprizes are difficult, so is this most intri­cate. the Children of the Papists could be brought up out of their Company, it were a happy turn, but I finde it to be full of difficulty; there is provision made to avoid Popish School-masters, but there is no word against Popish School-mis­tresses, that infect the silly Infants while they carry them in their arms; A wise house­holder will cast up his recko­nings to see what losse or profit he hath made in a year which mo­veth me to suppose that the former pro­position to examine how Children and servants are brought up, and truely to certifie the list of the Communicants and Recusants, will be the readiest means to let his Majesty know the year­ly increase or decrease of the Church in every Diocesse. And whosoever shall send his Children, or any of his Ma­jesties Subjects to be placed in Monaste­ries or Seminary Colleges, or Popishly to be brought up in forraign parts, I think that for punishment both one and the o­ther worthily might be diffranchised of the priviledge due to English men, so farre forth as any good by the Laws may descend to them, but not to be exemp­ted from the Penalties thereof in the regall jurisdiction of the Crowne. I know well that contradiction is odious, and makes a man seem ambitious to be though tmore understanding than others, Cuevara E­pist. Aure [...]. in which case the Spaniard useth only to [...] me [...] presumptuous, whom he [Page 151] would call foole, if civility would bear it; but in my defence, I hope it shall suffice againe to revive my former pro­testation, that I discourse by the way of Proposition, rather than arrogantly of defining any thing, The Law which took im­mediate notice of an offence▪ gave a quick redresse, and corrected the poor as well as the rich. with pardon therefore may I bee permitted to say, that the first easie Law of twelve pence, inflicted on him that could not give a reasonable excuse for his absence from Church on Sundayes, was one of the best ordinances that hath hitherto been enacted; but while we sought to make new Statutes, savouring of more seve­rity, we neglected the old, and were loath to execute the new, for it is a certaine rule, that whosoever in poli­cy will give liberty, and yet seem to suppresse a crime, Sharp Laws that stand up­on a long pro­cesse, after a manner seem to dispe [...]ce with the vice. let him procure sharpe Lawes to be proclaimed, which are necessary only for some times, and rare occasions, to be put in execution, but not to be an ordinary worke for every day of the weeke; daily use likewise teacheth us, that it is lesse grievous to punish by an old Lawe than by a new, for so much as truth it selfe seldome gets credit without proof, and it is hard to free the people of suspition, that new Lawes are not ra­ther invented against the particular persons and purses of men, than a­gainst their corrupt manners; by force of which reason I am induced to con­ceive, [Page 152] that the old use of the Church contained in good nurture, The allegiance to God ought to precede the temporall obe­dience, for if the first may be obtained, the second will follow of it self. and Eccle­siasticall censures, will much more prevaile to muzzle Popery, than any fresh devises whatsoever; neither do I thinke it blame-worthy to affirme, that our Cause hath taken harme by rely­ing more on the temporall than the spirituall Armes, for while we trusted that capitall punishments should strike the stroke, we have neglected the means which would for the most part have discharged the need of such severity; the Oath of Allegiance is not offered generally to servants and mean people, who if they had taken the Oath, by ab­solution of a Priest might recoyle from it, or change their opinion at leasure, without any ready meanes to discover their Legerdemaine, that Oath I feare will not be often pressed, and to them that shift from place to place, how can it be tendred? the principall Pa­pists now cover themselves in the crowd of the multitude, but if we can disco­ver the affection of the multitude they will easily be unmarked, This course will discover more than the Oath of Alle­giance, and prevent many from falling off by reason of the quick dis­covery. and being singled out rest ashamed of their na­kedness (which under correction of bet­ter judgement) may be effected, if every new commer to inhabit in a Town, and servants newly entertained, within a week or fourteen dayes, be caused to repaire to the Minister, there in pre­sence [Page 153] of the Church-wardens and other honest men, to subscribe unto such briefe and substantiall Articles concer­ning faith and allegiance as shall be ac­cording to Gods word and justice ordai­ned to distinguish the sheep from the Goats; in forrain Countreys every host is bound to bring his guest before an Officer, there to certifie his name, with the occasion of his Comming, and in­tended time of aboade in those parts, and in case he stay longer, he must again renew his licence; so curious and vigilant are they also to keep their Ci­ties from infection, So long as houses and lodgings in London are let to Papists; the Priests will be received, and from thence shall the Coun­try be infected. that without a Cer­tificate witnessing their comming from wholsome places, they may not escape the Lazaretto; no lesse ought we to be watchful to prevent the contagion of our Souls, than the other Nations are of their bodies. Every thing is hard and scarcely pleasing in the beginning, but with time some such course may be rea­dily put in execution, which I propound rather as matter for betterheads to work on, than peremptorily to be insisted on in the same termes; but lest any charge me with temerity, that where I desire to know the multitudes inclination, by the means aforesaid, I satisfie my self with their Parrats language, pronouncing it knows not what, I think it not imperti­nent to put them in mind, that hereto­fore I have required instruction, both [Page 154] precedent and subsequent, If we can pre­vent the in­crease of Pa­pists, those that now live must either be refor­med, or in time yield to nature, and then shall a new age suc­ceed of Christi­ans, by educa­tion made Re­ligious. and am ever of the mind, that though all this cannot be done at once, yet it is necessary al­wayes to be doing our best; knowing, that not to go forward in Religion, is the ready way to go backwards; it is not the outward obedience of comming to Church, that discovers the inward thought of the heart, it is the confession of the tongue that must utter those se­crets, and where the Curates are insuf­ficient, or the Parish great, I wish they had Catechists to assist them, maintai­ned by the purses of the Recusants, which pension being collected for Gods cause, will free us of scandall, though it grieved them to pay the spirituall Army waged against their owne stratagems; surely by giving them way in petty mat­ters, they are grown to be very master­full in their party. Plato affirmeth that the popular State proceeded from the Licence which the people took to make immoderate applauses in the Theaters, when as by arrogating that immunity without controllment, in presence of their Governours, and perceiving the Nobility to joyn with them in the same passions, they thought their heads as worthy to governe, as any of those were made out of the same mould: In like manner while we suffer ignorance openly to maintain such petty glimps of Popery as are thought to be searce wor­thy [Page 155] to be looked at, The br [...]achers of a bad cause being touched in Conscience, at the first move slowly, but if they pre­vaile they grow tyrannous be­yond measure. in small matters run an indifferent course, which neither makes sure friends nor feeble foes, una­wares they take the Bridle from us, and eat out Religion, as it were by an in­sensible Gangrena:

Principiis obsta, sero medicina paratur
Cum mala per-longas invaluere moras.

For by sufferance of breaking small laws people are boldned to set the greater at nought.

To comprehend all things in a Law which arc necessary to the reformation, I neither hold it profitable nor expedi­ent, yet it is discretion to provide for the most important, smaller matters whereof the Lawes speak not are to be commended to the discretion of Parents, Ministers and other Reverend persons, who by example and advice may prepare younglings by education and Custom to obey the Laws, especially such as are in high place ought in this behalf to be like Caesars wife, Non, solum Crimine, Most men will affect to be such as the highest Trusts, and Favours. sed etiam Criminis suspitione vacare, and with such circumspection to behave them­selves, that the world may conceive, in requiring obedience to God, and their Soveraign, A great man is an Idol in the eyes of mean People, and draws many t [...] imitate his actions. that they hold the multitude rather for companions than slaves; If great men take another way, they may seduce many by example, though by words they expresse not their concealed opinions, T [...]ce & leq [...]re said God to [Page 156] Moses, it is the speech of the heart, which utters more than letters, or silla­bles. And in our common Lawes it is held maintainance, when a great per­son onely by his presence countenanceth a cause; neither let us secure our selves with this argument, The Papists are pli­able in small matters, Ergo, they will yeeld in greater; And because they took no Arms in 88. therefore it were needlesse curiosity to suspect them now: for who knowes not that small baits are used to take the greatest Fish, Vt cum esca una etiam hamus devoretur. Wari­nesse is the sinews of wisdome, and no­thing is more dangerous than to be se­cure in matters of State. Few Laws well executed are better than many. Therefore for the Laws already made, I wish that the most effectuall of them which least con­cern life, may be executed; for better it were not to make them, than by neg­lect to set them at liberty: Seeing that many offences there are which men would abstain from, if they were not forbidden, but when a strict Com­mandement is avoided without punish­ment, thereout springs an unbridled li­cense and hardly to be reformed by any rigour.

To conclude, I say freely, that who­so endeth his dayes by a naturall death, he shall be subject to many mens dooms for every particular offence; But when for Religions sake a man triumpheth [Page 157] over the sword, that one eminent Ver­tue razeth out the memory of other er­rours, and placeth him that so dieth in Paradise, A Crown of Glory once at­tained, hath power to dis­pence with for­mer faults▪ (if common opinion may be lawfully vouched) vvhich glory having many followers and admirers, maketh even dull spirits to affect their footsteps, and to sell their lives for the mainte­nance of the same cause. I need not Envy the name of a Martyr to the Je­suite; for his cause if it be rightly vveighed, will blanch that title; but I desire to have all those Lineaments de­faced, vvhich may compound that coun­terfeit Image; in prosecuting of vvhich purpose, if I have failed in my advice, and by confused handling, intricated the question, I humbly request, that a vvise mans verdict may mitigate the heavinesse of the censure.

It is neither good to praise bad Coun­sels, He Counsells best, that pre­fers the Cause of God, and the Commonwealth before any par­ticular. because of their good successe, nor to condemn good Counsels, if the event prove not Fortunate, lest many be ani­mated to advise rashly, and others dis­heartned to Counsell gravely.

‘Illi mors gravis incubat qui notus ni­mis omnibus ignotus moritur sibi.’
THE MANNER AND MEANE …

THE MANNER AND MEANES HOW THE KINGS ENGLAND Have from time to time SUPPORTED And repaired their ESTATES.

Written by Sir ROB. COTTON Knight and Barronet, Anno no­no Jacobi Regis Annoque Domini 1609.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672.

AN ANSVVER TO CERTAI …

AN ANSVVER TO CERTAIN ARGUMENTS Raised from Supposed Antiquity, And urged by some MEMBERS of the lower HOUSE of PARLIAMENT, To prove that Ecclesiastical Laws, Ought to be Enacted by Temporal Men.

Written by Sir ROB. COTTON Knight and Barronet.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672.

AN ANSVVER TO CERTAIN ARGUMENTS Raised from Supposed Antiquity, And urged by some Members of the Lower House of PARLIAMENT, To Prove that Ecclesiastical Lawes Ought to be Enacted by Temporal Men.

WHat, besides self-regard, or siding faction, hath been the main reason of the lower Lay-house labour in Parliament, to deal with Lawes of the Church, the milder Members have yielded a Right which they would maintain by former [Page 204] Presidents, raising the same from

  • 1. Primitive use.
    3. Reasons out of President.
  • 2. Middle practise.
  • 3. Interrupted continuance.

Professing the same by the Laws of

  • 1. The Roman Empire.
    1. Imperial constitutons.
  • 2. The Saxon Kings.
    2. Saxonlaws.
  • 3. The English Parliaments so to do.
    Acts in Parliament

Which since it may raise a prejudice to the Church's peace, or to the Soveraign's power, unopposed; I will make way (in a word or two) to the better answer of some other Pen. What they say is not to be denied, that in course of civil Laws under the Christian Emperours, there be often constitutions Ecclesiastical; and in the Councels of the Church (frequent) the Soveraign's power, and sometimes the presence of lay-Ministers; yet may their assertion admit to the first, this an­swer of Justinian; Justinian. Principes, Sapientes, E­piscoporum monita, pro fide & Religione Chri­stiana, Leges Synodicis Canonibus conformes edidere, recte judicantes, Sacerdotum Sanctio­nes merito Majestatis Regiae nuturoborari. So that those decrees of the Civil Lawes, Tripartita Hi­storia. will prove but confirmative of former Canons, as may be gathered by that of Volentinian and Martian. Emperours, who wrote unto Paladius, their Praefectus Pratorii, that all constitutions, that were against the Canon of the Church should stand void. And to the second, that their presence was to dignifie, and not to dispute; the direction [Page 206] proveth, Distinct. 196. 1. that the Emperor Theodosius gave to Candidianus an Earl, by him to the Ephesian Councel sent; Non ut Quaestiones seu Expositiones communicaret, cum sit illicitum quia non fit in ordine sanctissimorum E­piscoporum, Ecclesiasticis tractatibus intermis­ceri. And Valentinian the elder, though pe­titioned by the Bishops to be present at their Synod, Nicep. lib. 11. said; Sebi, qui unus e Laicorum numero esset, non licere hujusmodi negotiis se interpone­re. And by the Council of Carth. and Affri­can, Con­cil. Ca [...]h. Affric. likewise it appeared; that even Princes would intermeddle with these matters; but Saepius rogati ab Episcopis. And the Em­peror Gratian taught, as Zozimus Zozimus. saith, Om­nes Laicos nihil potestatis inres Ecclesiasticas posse sibi vindicare. And the former Emperor. enacted; In causa Ecclesiastici alicujus ordinis cum judicare debere, qui nec manere impar est, nec jure dissimilis, Ambros. l 5. Ep. 32. Sacerdotes de Sacerdotibus judicare. According to that Saying of Con­stantine the Great; Russ [...]us Ec. clef. hist. l. [...]. Vos enim a Deo nobis dati estis Dii, & conveniens non est ut homo judicet Deos. Thus then stood the practice of the primitive Church; which when it was in those times otherwise, as under Constantius the Arrian, Athanas. saith of him; Haereseos ve­neno imbutos milites, Athan. Epist ad solit. vitam agent. Sicarios, Eunuchos Co­mites, faciebat Sacerd. Judices, & cogebat um­bratiles Synodas, quibus ipse cum monstris illis praesiperet. Whereas otherwise that Emperor, even in the height of Pagan Greatness, Dionysius H [...]lic [...]rn. as­cribed to their Pontifices and Sacerdotes in Common Right, Propter Religionem comitia [Page 208] habere propria, and that Stabili Sententiâ ra­rum erat, quod tres Pontifices communi decre­to statuissent

The second Objection. Ecclesiastical Laws enacted in Parliament.

To the second, as it is in the former true, that many Canons of the Church are interlaced with the Common-wealths, although the Saxon Laws, Saxon Laws. and that the establishment should be by Parliament, which they infer out of the Frontispian, of Inas Statutes in these words: Ego Inae Rex, ex tractatione Episcoporum, Leges Inae. et omnium Alder­mannorum meorum, & seniorum sapientu [...] Regni mei, & confirmatione Populi mei; do or­dain &c. Yet may receive this answer. First, that the Commons did but confirm and not dispute; which to this day is in their summons comprized only ad consuet udinen. But whosoever shall collate the transcript copy with the original, called Textus Rof­fensis, will find these ordinances, Textus Rof­fensis. not called Leges but Synodalia, and almost all by the King and Church-men onely made. Nei­ther was it new in this Isle that Priests direct­ed alone the government, when as the best Record of our eldest memory saith, that the Druides, (a religious Pagan order) not only divinis intersunt, Religiones interpretantur, but de omnibus (as Caesar saith) controversis publicis privatisque confirment, sive de heridet amento, sive de finibus, & praemia & [Page 209] paenas constituunt. And if any, sive privatus, aut populus decreto eorū non stererit, sacrificiis in­terdicunt. And this excommunication amongst them, was paena gravissima. Neither did the times of Christianity here bereave the Church of all such will. For in the Saxon time they intermedled in the framing of the Temporal Lawes, and ought, as appeareth by an Ordinance of that time de Officiis E­piscopi: Cum seculi judicibus interesse ne per­mittent si possint, Leges Regum Saxorum. ut illinc aliqua pravitatum germina pullulaverint. And surely, since these time until of late, the inferiour Ministers of the Church, Eulogium. All the Clergy members of Parliament proved by Record. aswel as Bishops, had suffrage in Parliament. For John de Rupescissa (a story as old as King John's time) saith, Anno 1210. Convocatum est Parliamentum Londoniae, Presidente Archiepiscopo cum toto Clero. & tota secta Laicali. Rot. Parl. 18. Edw. 3. And in the 8. of Edward the 3. the Members of Parlia­ment defective in their appearance, the King chargeth the Arch-bishop to punish the defaults of the Clergie, as he would the like touching the Lords and Com­mons. And in third of Richard the second, Rot. Parl. an. 3. Rich. 2. against a Petition in Parliament contra­dicting Provisions, the Prelates and whole Clergy, make their protestations; And to a demand of the Lay-Commons, for the King's aide the year following, Rot. Parl. an. 4. Rich. 2. the whole Clergy answered, that they used not to grant any but of their free will. And in the eleventh of the same King, Rot. Parl. an. 11. Ri. 2. 11. [...] the Arch­bishop of Canterbury made openly in Par­liament [Page 210] a solemne protestation for him­self, and the whole Clergie of his Pro­vince, entered by word; the effect where­of was, That albeit they might lawfully be present in all Parliaments, yet for that in those Parliament matters of treason were to be intreated of, whereas by the Canon law they ought not to be present, they therefore absented themselves, saving their liberties therein otherwise.

And in the 21. Rot. Parl. an. 21. Rich. 2. n. 9. & 10. of Richard the 2. for that divers judgements were heretofore undon; for that the Clergie were not present; the commons prayed the King, that the Cler­gie would appoint some to be their com­mon Proctor, with sufficient authority thereunto. The Bishops and Clergie there­fore being severally examined, appointed Sir Thomas Piercy their Proctor to assent as by their Instruments appeareth.

And the same year, Rot. Parl. an. 21 Rich. 2. n. 51. upon the devise of Sir Thomas Bussey, most of the Bishops and Lords were sworne before the King again, upon the Cross of Canterbury, to repeal no­thing in this year enacted. So did sun­dry the Proctors of the Clergy, and most of the Commons, by holding up one of their hands, affirmed that they the same would do.

In the judgement of the Duke of Norfolk, 2. Ric. 2. n. 58. and Earl of Warwick the same year, the name and assent of the Procurator of the Clergy alleadged. 1. Hen. 4. And in the first of Henry 4. the Bishop of Assaph, for Arch-bishop [Page 211] and Bishops; the Abbot of Glassenbury, for all Religious Persons; the Earl of Glou­cester, for Dukes and Earls; the Lord of Barkley, for Barons and Barronets; Sir Thomas Irpingham Chamberlain, for Batche­lors and Commons of the South; Sir Thomas Gray, for Batchelors and Commons of the North; Sir William Thirming and John Mekham Justices, for the whole E­states, came to the Tower to King Richard to whom Sir William Thirming, for and in the name of them all, pronounced the sen­tence of deposition, and the words or resig­nation of homage and loyalty.

And when it was enacted anno 6. Henry 6. by the King, Rot. Parl an. 6. He. 6. n. 27. Lords Temporal and Com­mons, that no man should contract or marry himself to any Queen of England, without the special licence and assent of the King, on pain to lose all his Goods and Lands; The Bishops and all the Clergie to this Bill assented, so far as it was not against the Law of God. And thus far for answer to the second part.

The third Reason. Ecclesiastical Lawes enact­ed in Parliament.

The last, which they granted from Presidents, Parliaments since the Conquest, they infer out of the Phrase, and out of the practise; The first by these words: Rex Wintoniae celebravit magnum Concilium coram Episcopis, William M [...]lmesbury. Comitibus, & Baronibus, mi­staking [Page 212] the word, as intending a Provinci­al Synod, whereas it was in those dayes equal and usual for their Parliament, that French Phrase never having admission in that sence here untill the time of Henry 2. Lib. Ecclesiae Cantuar. and then but rarely. That great assem­bly being formerly instiled Magnum Con­silium; and until of late often enjoyed the same name. And this is evident out of the words of Benedictus Abbas in the life he wrote of the 2. Vita Hen. 2. 2. Henry; Circa festum sancti Pauli, venit Dominus Rex usque Northampton, & magnum ibi celebravit Consilium de Statu­tis Regni sui coram Episcopis, Comitibus Ba­ronibus terrae suae, & per Consilium Militum & hominum suorum. Here the intent mani­festeth the nature of that assembly, and the fuller, in that the same Author in the same year, saith, that Richardus Cantuar. Ar­chiepiscopus, and Rogerus Eboracensis cum Suf­raganeis suis congregatis apud Westmonasteri­um in Capella Monachorum infirmiorum tenue­runt Consilium; or their convocation; which had been needless if in their first, they might have done their Church-affaires.

Here might I enter into a large and just discourse, as well of the authority as anti­quity of their Convocation or Synod Pro­vincial, no less antient, Beda. as Beda mention­eth, then in the year 686. when Austin ad­jutorio Regis, &c. assembled in Councel the Brittain Bishops; from which unto this day there is successive Record of Councels or Convocations, Provincial Consitutions. less interrupted then of Parliament.

Practice.

Now touching our practise to ordain in Parliaments Lawes Ecclesiastical, either meer or mixt, although it be by Record evident, yet must it admit this difference: First, that it sprung not from our dispute, or desire, Rot. Parl. but solely from the Petitions of the Church, as usual is in all the Rolls of Parliament, receiving their distinct Title from those of the Commons. And this they did to adde Seculare Brachium to their former Cannons, too weak to reach to corporal punishments; as in the fifth of Richard 2. when to suppress the Schismes, the Clergy became in Parliament the Petitio­ners to the Kings Laity; Claus. 5. Rich. 2. where these words of their assistance are, excluding the Com­mons from any Power of advice: Habita prius bona & matura deliberatione de commu­ni Consilio ipsius Archiepiscopi, Suffraganeo­rum suorum, aliorumque Clericorum, super quo idem Archiepiscopus supplicavit, ut pro debita castigatione illorum qui conclusiones Schisma­ticas praedicare voluerint, animo obstinato dig­naremur apponere brachium Regiae potestatis [...]idem. Charae [...]nti­quae B. B. And this aide was in order in the Con­querors time; who by edict commanded, that every Marshal, Episcope & Deo faceret rectum secundum Canones & Episcopales leges. Which if he doth not, after excommunicati­on, Fortitudo et Justitia Regis adhibeatur. And [Page 214] this even in the Primitive Church, was thought convenient: because as Saint Ambrose saith, for the like intent, to the Emperor Valentinian; Ambrosi [...]s. Non tantas vires sermo mecus habiturus est pro Trinitate bellum gerens, quantum edictum tuum. Hence it is that at this day, the King's authority is annexed ever to the Convocation; as in the antient Church were the like decrees of Kings; as those of Eruigius ratifying the twelfth Councel of Toledo. Nemo illiciator vel contem­ptor vigorem his Institutionibus subtrahat, Concil. 11. Toletan. sed generaliter per cunctas Regni nostri provinci­as hoec Canonum instituta nostrae gloriae tempo­ribus acta, et autoritatis debitae fastigia praepol­lebunt, & irrevocabili judiciorum exercitie prout constituta sunt in omnibus Regni nostri Provinciis celebres habebuntur. Si quis autem haec instituta contemnat, contemptor se noverit damnari sententia; Id est, ut juxta voluntatem nostrae gloriae, et excommunicatas à nostro caet [...] resiliat; & in super decimam partem faculta­tis suaefisci partibus sociandam, amittat. But that the Church-laws ever moved from the Lay-members, I take it as far from Presi­dent, as it is besides nhe nature of their Com­mission: The Bishops and Clergy being onely called in the Writ to that service, the word being, [...]d consenti­endum. Writ of sum­mons Rot. claus. an. 22. Rich. 2. [...]. 7. to come in fide & delecti­one, ad declarandum Consilium & avisamen­tum, & ad consentiendum iis quae tunc de avi­samento & assensu Cleri nostri (and not the Commons) cotigerit affirmari. But if any shall object unto me, that many Laws, [Page 215] as that of the Supremacy in Henry 8. time, had first the ground in Parliament; it is manifested, Archivis. Archiepis. by the dates of their Acts in convocations, that they all had properly in that place the first original. And that this was the use of old, nothing will leave it so clear, as to observe the fruitless suc­cess of the Laity, in all their endeavours to establish Ecclesiastical Laws; And this I will manifest by the Kings answer out of Record, so far as the Rolls of Parlia­ment will admit me, successively. Until the 11. of Edward the first, Rot. Patl. 18. Edw. 1. there is no Re­cord extant; but in that the Commons petition to the King, that a Law may be made against Usurers; Usurie. The King gave answer, that it must be remedyed, coram Ordinariis. And when they desired remedy, Vex [...]tion by Ord [...]naries. de multimodis injustis vexationibus eis factis per Officiales & alios ministros Ecclesiae; The King replyed; Cancellarius emendat in tempo­ralibus; Archiepiscopus faci [...]t in spiritualibus. From hence there is a lack of Record near to the 8. Rot. Parl. 8. Edw. 3. of Edward 3. In which Parliament the Commons desire an Act to restrain the Clergie in their trivial citations; Citations. where­unto they received from the King but this answer onely; That the King will charge the Bishops to see it remedyed. And the first of Richard the 2. Rot. Parl. an. 1. Rich. Pecuniarie pains. 5. Rich. 2. Ecclesiastical Courts. preferring the like petition against corruption of Ordinaries, to do according to the Lawes of Holy Church. And in the fifth of the same King, they complain against abuses in Ecclesiasti­cal [Page 216] Courts. Respons. The King will charge the Clergy to amend the same.

And in the 15. year, when they requir­ed an Act to declare the age of the tithe­able Wood; Tythes. they had for answer, The King would move the Bishops for order be­tween this and the next Parliament.

And in the 17 of Richard 2. 17. Rich. 2. n. 43. when they petiotioned for a residing learned Mini­stry, so as the Flock for want might not perish; Learned Mi­nistery. they had replyed, That the King willeth the Bishops to whom that Office belongeth, to do their duties.

Henry the 4. in his second year, Rot. Par. an. 2. Hen. 4. [...]. 44. desired by the Lords and Commons to pacify the Schisme of the Church; Answereth, he will charge the Bishops to consider the same. And in his fourth year, being im­portuned for an Act for residency of Mini­sters; 4. Hen. 4. replyed Le Roy command an Prelats et perentrecy ils empurvoient de remedie. And in the eleventh of the same King, to the like petition; 11. Hen. 4. Respons: Ceste matiere appartient a St. Eglise et remede en la darraine Convoca­tion.

In Parliament under the 5. Rot. Par. an. 1. Hen. 5. Henry and his first year, the King answereth the Com­mons petition, against oppressing Ordina­ries; If the Bishops do not redtess the same, the King will.

And in Anno 3. Rot. Par. an. 3. Hen. 6. Henry 6. to a Petition that Non-Residents should forfeit the profit of their living; gave answer, that he had delivered the Bill to my Lord of [Page 217] Canterbury, and semblably to my Lord of York; charging them to purvey meanes of remedy.

And in the year following, Rot. Parl. an. 4. Hen. 1. to a petiti­on that Patrons may present upon Non-Residencie; Respons: There is remedy suf­ficient in the Law spiritual.

Since then it is plain by these rehearsed answers, that from the Conquest, they have received but weak admittance: And by the edict of the first King William in these words, Chartae A [...]i­quae B. B. a sharp restraint; Defendo et mea authoritate interdico, ne ullus laicus homo de legibus quae ad Episcopum pertinent se intro­mittat. And that the Saxon Synodals, Leges Saxon. are rather Canon-Laws, then Lay-mens Acts. And the practise of the primitive Church, if well understood, but a weak prop to their desire, It may not seem distastful from the King (walking in the Steps of his Ancestors, Kings of this Land) to return (as formerly) the Commons desires to their proper place, the Church-mans care. And to conclude this point in all Parliaments, as Martian the Emperor did the Chalcedon Councel; Concil. Chale. Cessat jam profana contentio; nam vere impius & sacrilegus est, qui posttot sacer­dotum sententiam, opinionisuae aliquid tractan­dum reliquit. And with the Letter of Gods Law; Levit. 14. Qui superbicrit nolens obedire sacerdotis imperio, ex decreto Judicis morietur hono.

THE ARGUMENT Made by …

THE ARGUMENT Made by the COMMAND Of the House of COMMONS (Out of the Acts of Parlia­ment, and Authority of Law expounding the same) at a CONFERENCE with the LORDS, CONCERNING THE LIBERTIE of the person of every FREEMAN.

Written by Sir ROB. COTTON Knight and Barronet.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672.

THE ARGUMENT Made by the COMMAND Of the House of COMMONS (Out of the Acts of Parliament, and Authority of Law, expounding the same) at a Conference with the LORDS, Concerning the Liberty of the person of every FREEMAN.

My LORDS,

VPon the occasions delivered by the Gentlemen, your Lordships have heard, the Commons have taken in­to their serious considera­tion the matter of the per­sonal liberty: and after long debate there­of [Page 222] of on divers dayes, aswell by solemn Ar­guments as single proportions of doubts and answers, to the end no scruples might remain in any mans breast unsatisfyed; They have, upon a full search and clear understanding of all things pertinent to the question, unanimously declared, That no Freeman ought to be committed, or detained in Prison, or otherwise restrain­ed by the command of the King, or the Privy Councel, or any other, unless some cause of the commitment, deteinor, or restraint be expressed, for which by Law he ought to be committed, detained or re­strained: And they have sent me with o­ther of their Members to represent unto your Lordships the true grounds of such their resolution, and have charged me par­ticularly (leaving the reasons of Law and Presidents for others) to give your Lord­ships satisfaction, that this Liberty is esta­blished and confirmed by the whole State, the King, the Lords Spiritual and Tempo­ral, and the Commons, by several Acts of Par­liament, the authority whereof is so great, that it can receive no answer, save by inter­pretation or repeal by future Statutes: And those that I shall mind your Lordships of, are so direct to the point, that they can bear no other exposition at all; and sure I am, they are still in force.

The first of them is the grand Charter of the Liberties of England; first granted 17. Johannis Regis, and revived 9. Hen. 3: and [Page 223] since confirmed in Parliament above 30. times. The words are these▪ cap. 29. Nul­lus liber homo capiatur vel imprisonetur, aut disseisetur de libero tenemento suo, vel Libertati­bus, vel liberis consuetudinibus suis, aut ut lage­tur, aut exuletur, aut aliquo modo d [...]struatur: nec super eum ibimus, nec super eum mittemus, nisi per leg ale [...]udiciu [...] parium suorum, vel per legem terrae. These words Nullus liber homo, &c. are express enough. Yet it is remarkable, that Mathew Paris (an Author of especial credit) doth observe fol. 432 that the Char­ter 9. Henry 3. was the very same as that of the 17. of King John (in nullo dissimilis are his words) and that of King John he setteth down verbatim fol. 342. And there the words are directly, Nec [...]um in carcerem mit­temus: and such a corruption as in now in the point might easily happen betwixt 9. Henry 3. and 28. Edward 1. when this char­ter was first exemplified: but certainly, there is sufficient left in that which is extant to decide this question: for the words are, that no Freeman shall be taken or impri­soned but by the lawful judgement of his Peers (which is by Jury; Peers for Peers, ordinary Juryes for other, who are their Peers) or by the Law of the Land: Which Law of the Land must of necessity be under­stood to be of this notion, to be by due process of the Law; and not the Law of the land generally: otherwise it would comprehend Bondmen (whom we call Villaines) who are excluded by rhe word [Page 224] liber: For the general Law of the Land doth allow their Lords to imprison them at their pleasure without cause, wherein they only differ from the Freeman, in respect of their persons, who cannot be improson­ed without a cause. And that this is the true understanding of these words, per legem terrae, will more plainly appear by divers other Statutes that I shall use, which do expound the same accordingly. And though the words of this grand Charter be spoken in the third person; yet they are not to be understood of suits betwixt party and party; at least not of them a­lone, but even of the Kings suits against his Subjects, as will appear by the occasion of the getting of that Charter; which was by reason of the differences between those Kings and their People; and therefore properly to be applied unto their power over them, and not to ordinary questions betwixt Subject and Subject.

Secondly, the words per legale judicium parium suorum immediately preceeding the other of per legem terrae, are meant of trials at the Kings suit, and not at the prosecu­tion of a Subject. And therefore if a Peer of the Realm be arraigned at the Suite of the King upon an Indictment of murder, he shall be tryed by his Peers; that is by Nobles: but if he be appealed of murder by a Subject, his tryal shall be by an ordina­ry Jury of 12. Freeholders, as appeareth in 10. Edward 4 6. 33. Henry 8. Brooke title [Page 225] trials 142 Stamf. pleas of the Crown lib. 3. cap. 1. fol. 152. And in 10 Edward 4. it is said, such is the meaning of Magna Charta. By the same reason therefore, as per judici­um parium suorum extends to the Kings suit; so shall these words per legem terrae. And in 8. Edward 3. rot. Parl. m. 7. there is a peti­tion, that a Writ under the privy Seal went to the Guardian of the Great Seal, to cause Lands to be seized into the Kings hands; by force of which there went a Writ out of the Chancery to the Escheator, to seize against the form of the Grand Char­ter, that the King or his Ministers shall out no man of Free-hold without reason­able Judgement, and the Party was resto­red to his Land; which sheweth the Statute did extend to the King. There was no invasion upon this personal Liberty until the time of King Edward 3. which was eft­soon resented by the Subject: For in 5. Edward. 3. cap. 9. it is ordained in these words: It is enacted, that no man from henceforth shall be attached by any accusa­tion, nor fore-judged of Life or Limb, nor h [...]s Lands, Tenements, Goods nor Chattels seized into the Kings hands against the form of the great Charter and the Law of the Land.

25. Edward 3, cap. 4. is more full; and doth expound the words of the grand Charter; and is thus: Whereas it is con­tained in the great Charter of the Franchi­ses of England, that none shall be imprison­ed [Page 226] nor put out of his Freehold, nor of his Franchise nor free Custome, unless it be by the Law of the Land. It is accorded, assented and established, that from hence­forth none shall be taken by Petition or Suggestion made to our Lord the King, or to his Counsel, unless it be by Indictment or Presentment of his good and lawful People of the same Neighbourhood where such deeds be done, in due manner, or by process made by Writs Original at the com­mon Law, nor that none be put out of his Franchises nor of his freeholds, unless he be due brought in answer, and forejudged of the same by the course of the Law, and if any thing be done against the same, it shall be redressed and holden for none.

Out of this Statute I observe, that what in Magna Charta and the Preamble of this Statute, is termed by the Law of the Land, is by the body of this act expounded, to be by process made by Writ Original at the Common Law; which is a a plain inter­pretation of the words, Law of the Land, in the Grant Charter. And I note that this Law was made, upon the Commitment of divers to the Tower, no man yet knoweth for what.

28 Edward 3. cap. 3. is yet more direct; (this liberty being followed with fresh Suit by the Subject) where the words are not many, but very full and significant: That no man, of what Estate or conditi­on [Page 227] soever he be, shall be put out of his Lands or Tenements, nor taken, nor imprisoned, nor disinherited, nor put to death, with­out he be brought in answer by due process of the Law. Here your Lordships see, the usual words, of the Law of the Land, are rendered by due process of the Law.

36. Edward. 3. Rot. Parl. n. 9. amongst the Petitions of the Commons one of them (being translated into English out of French) is thus. First, that the great Charter, and the Charter of the Forrest, and the o­ther Statutes made in his time, and in the time of his Progenitors, for the profit of him and his Communalty, be well and firmly kept, and put in due execution, without putting disturbance, or making arrest contrary to them, by special com­mand, or in other manner.

The Answer to the Petition, which makes it an Act of Parliament, is: Our Lord the King, by the assent of the Pre­lates, Dukes, Earles, Barons, and the Communalty hath ordained and establish­ed; that the said Charters and Statutes be held and put in execution according to the said Petition. It is observeable that the Statutes were to be put in execution according to the said Petition? which is, that no Arrest should be made contrary to the Statutes, by special command. This concludes the question, and is of as great force as if it were printed. For the Par­liament-Roll is the true warrant of an Act, [Page 228] and many are omitted out of the Books that are extant.

35. Edward 3. Rot. Parl. nu. 20. explaineth it further. For there the Petition is: I­tem, as it is contained in the grand Charter and other Statutes, That no man be taken or imprisoned by special command with­out Indictment or other process to be made by the Law upon them, aswel of things done out of the Forrest of the King, as for other things; That it would please our said Lord; to command those to be delievered, that are so taken by special command, against the form of the Charters and Statutes aforesaid.

The Answer is, The King is pleased, that if any man find himself greived, that he come and make his complaint, and right shall be done unto him.

37. Edward 3. cap. 18. agreeth in substance when it saith, Though that it be contain­ed in the great Charter, that no man be taken, nor imprisoned, nor put out of his Freehold without process of the Law: Nevertheless divers People make false Suggestions to the King himself; as well for malice or otherwise, whereof the King is often grieved, and divers of the Realm put in damage, against the form of the the said Charter, wherefore it is ordained that all they which make suggestions, shall be sent with the same suggestions before the Chancellour, Treasurer and his grand Council; and that they there find Surety to pursue their suggestions: and incur the [Page 229] same pain that the other should have had if he were attainted, in case that his sug­gestion be found evil; and that then pro­cess of the Law be made against them, without being taken and imprisoned a­gainst the form of the Charter and other Statutes. Here the Law of the Land in the grand Charter is explained to be without process of the Law.

42. Edward 3. at the request of the Com­mons by their Petitions put forth in this Parliament, to eschew mischief and damage done to divers of his Commons by false Accusers, which oftentimes have made their accusation more for revenge and sin­gular benefit than for the profit of the King or of his People; which accused per­sons, some have been taken and sometime caused to come before the Kings Council, by Writ or otherwise, upon grievous pains against the Law, It is assented and accorded for the good governance of the Commons, that no man be put to an­swer without presentment before Justices or matter of Record, or by due process and Writ original according to the old Law of the Land: and if any thing from henceforth be done to the contrary, it shall be void in the Law and holden for Error.

But this is better in the Parliament-Roll, where the Petition and Answer (which make the Act) are set down at large 42. Edward 3. Rot. Parl. n. 12. The Petition [Page 230] Item, because that many of the Commons are hurt and destroyed by false Accusers, who make their Accusations more for their revenge and particular gaine, than for the profit of the King or his People: And those that are accused by them, some have been taken, and others are made to come before the King's Coun­cel, by Writ or other Command of the King, upon grievous pains, contrary to the Law. That it would please our Lord the King, and his good Council, for the just Government of his People, to ordain, that if hereafter any Accuser purpose any mat­ter for the profit of the King, that the mat­ter be sent to the Justices of the one Bench or the other, or the Assizes, to be enquired and determined according to the Law; and if it concern the Accuser or Party, that he take his Suit at the Common Law, and that no man be put to answer, without presentment before Justices, or matter of Record, or by due process and Original Writ, according to the antient Law of the Land; and if any thing henceforward be done to the contrary, that it be void in Law, and held for error. Here, by due process and Original Writ according to the antient Law of the Land, is meant the same thing as per legem terrae in Magna Char­ta. And the abuse was, that they were put to answer by the Commandment of the King. The King's answer is thus. Because that this Article is an Article of the Grand [Page 231] Charter: The King will that this be done as the Petition doth demand. By this appeareth that per legem terrae in Magna Charta is meant by due process of the Law.

Thus your Lordships have heard Acts of Parliament in the point. But the Statute of Westminster the first cap. 15. is urged to disprove this opinion, where it is expres­ly said, that a man is not replevisable who is committed by command of the King. Therefore the command of the King without any cause shewed, is suffici­ent to commit a man to Prison. And be­cause the strength of the Argument may appear, and the answer be better under­stood, I shall read the words of that Sta­tute, which are thus: And forasmuch as Sheriffs and others, which have taken and kept in Prison, persons detected of Felony, and oftentimes have let out by Replevin, such as were not replevisable; because they would gaine of the one party, and grieve the other. And forasmuch as before this time it was not certainly determined what persons were replevisable, and what not, but onely those that were taken for the death of a man, or by commandment of the King, or of his Justices, or for the Forrest; it is provided, and by the King commanded, that such Prisoners as be­fore were outlawed, and they which have abjured the Realm, Provers, and such as be taken with the manner, and those which have broke the Kings Prison, [Page 232] Theives openly defamed and known, and such as be appealed by Provers, so long as the Provers be living, if they be not of good name, and such as be taken for burn­ing of Houses feloniously done, or for false money, or for counterfeiting the Kings Seal, or Persons excommunicate taken at the request of the Bishop, or for manifest offences, or for treason touching the King himself, shall be in no wise replevisable, by the common VVrit or without VVrit. But such as be Indicted by Larceny, by Inquests taken before Sheriffs or Bayliffs by their Office, or of light suspition, or for petty Larceny, that amonnteth not above the va­lue of 12 d. if they were not guilty of some other Larceny aforetime, or guilty of re­ceipt of Felons, or of commandment or force, or of aid in Felony done, or guilty of some other Trespass for which one ought not to lose Life or Member; and a man appealed by a Prover; after the death of the Prover if he be no common Thief, nor defamed, shall from henceforth be let out by sufficient Surety, whereof the Sheriff will be answerable, and that without gi­ving ought of their Goods. And if the Sheriff or any other let any go at large by Surety, that is not replevisable, if he be the Sheriff, Constable, or any other Bayliff of Fee which hath keeping of Prisons, and thereof be attained, he shall lose his Fee and Office for ever. And if the Under-She­riff, Constable or Bayliff of such as hath [Page 233] Fee for keeping of Prisons, do it contrary to the will of his Lord, or any other Bay­liff being not of Fee, they shall have 3. years imprisonment, and make a fine at the King's pleasure. And if any with-hold Prisoners replevisable after they have offer­ed sufficient Surety, he shall pay a grievous amerciament to the King; and if he take any Reward for the deliverance of such, he shall pay double to the Prisoner, and al­so shall be in the great mercy of the King. The answer is, it must be acknowledged, that a man taken by the command of the King is not replevisable, for so are the express words of this Statute, but this maketh nothing against the Declaration of the Commons: for they say not, that the Sheriff may Replevin such a man by Surety, Scilicet Manucaptores: but that he is bayleable by the Kings Court of Justice: for the better apprehending whereof, it is to be known, that there is a difference be­twixt Replevisable, which is alwayes by the Sheriff upon Pledges or Sureties gi­ven, and Baileable by a Court of Record, where the Prisoner is delivered to his Baile and they are his Jailors, and may imprison him, and shall suffer for him body for body, as appeareth 33. & 36. Edward 3. in the title of Mainprise, plit. 12, 13. where the difference betwixt Baile and Mainprise is expresly taken. And if the words of the Statute it self be observed, it will appear plainly that it extends to the [Page 234] Sheriffs and other inferiour Officers, and doth not bind the hand of the Judges. The Preamble, which is the Key that openeth the entrance into the mean­ing of the Makers of the Law) is: For­asmuch as Sheriffs, and others, which have taken and kept in Prison persons de­tected of Felony. Out of these words I observe, that it nominateth Sheriffs; and then if the Justices should be included, they must be comprehended under the ge­neral word, Others; which doth not use to extend to those of an higher rank, but to inferiours: For the best, by all course is first to be named; and therefore if a man bring a writ of Customes and Services, and name Rents and other things, the general words shall not include homage, which is a personal service, and of an higher na­ture; but it shall extend to ordinary an­nual services, 31. Edward 1. droit 67. So the Statute of 13. Elizabeth cap. 10. which beginning with Colledges, Deans and Chapters, Parsons and Vicars, and con­cludes with these words, and others (and o­thers having spiritual promotions) shall not comprehend Bishops, that are of an higher degree, as appeareth in the Arch-bishop of Canterbury his Case reported by Sir Ed­ward Cook lib. 2. fol. 466. And thus much is explained in this very Statute, to the end when it doth enumerate those were meant by the word other, namely Under­sheriffs, Constables, Bayliffes. Again, [Page 235] the words are Sheriffs and others, which have taken and kept in Prison. Now e­very man knoweth, that Judges do neither arrest nor keep men in Prison; that is the office of Sheriffs, and other inferiour Mi­nisters; Therefore this Statute meant such only. and not Judges. The words are further, that they let out by replevin such as were not replevisable. This is the proper language for a Sheriff: Nay more express afterwards, in the body of the Sta­tute: That such as are there mentioned, shall be in no wise replevisable by the com­mon VVrit (which is de homine replegiando, and is directed to the Sheriff) nor withour Writ (which is by the Sheriff, Ex Officio) But that which receives no answer, is this: That the command of the Justices (who derive their authority from the Crown) is there equalled as to this purpose with the com­mand of the King; aud therefore by all reasonable construction, it must needs re­late to Officers that are subordinate to both, as Sheriffs, Undersheriffs, Bay­liffes, Constables, and the like: and it were an harsh exposition to say, that the Justices might not discharge their own command; and yet that reason would conclude as much. And that this was meant of the Sheriffs and other Ministers of Justice, appeareth by the Recital of 27. Edward 3. cap. 3. and likewise by Fleta, a Manuscript so called, because the Author lay in the Fleet when he made the Book. [Page 236] For he Lib. 2. cap. 52. in his Chapter of Turns, and the Views of the hundred Courts in the Countrey, and setteth down the Articles of the charges that are there to be enquired of; amongst which, one of them is, De replegialibus injuste detentis & irreplegialibus dimissis; which cannot be meant of not bailing by the Justices. For what have the inferiour Courts of the Coun­trey to do with the Acts of the Justices? And to make it more plain, he setteth down in his Chapter (that concerns She­riffs onely) the very Statute of West. 1. cap. 15. which he translates verbatim out of the French into Latine, save that he renders, Taken by the command of the Justices thus, Per judicium Justitiariorum, and his Preface to the Statute plainly sheweth that he understood it of Replevin by She­riffs: for he saith, Qui non debent per plegios dimitti, qui non declaret hoc Statutum; and per plegios is before the Sheriff. But for direct authority, it is the opinion of New­ton Chief Justice, 22. Henry 6. 46. where his words are these: It cannot be intend­ed but the Sheriff did suffer him to go at large by mainprise: for where one is taken by the VVrit of the King, at the com­mandment of the King, he is replevisable; but in such Cases his Friends may come to the Justices for him if he be arrested, and purchase a Supersedeas. This Judge con­cludes, that the Sheriff cannot deliver him that is taken by the command of the [Page 237] King, for that he is irreplevisable, which are the very words of the Statute: but saith he, his Friends may come to the Justices, and purchase a Supersedeas. So he declares the very question, that the Sheriff had no power, but that the Justices had power to deliver him who is committed by the Kings command, and both the antient and modern practise manifests as much. For he that is taken for the death of a man, or for the Forrest, is not replevisable by the Sheriff; Yet they are ordiuarily bayled by the Justices, and were by the Kings VVrits directed to the Sheriffs in the times of Edward 1. & Edward 2. as it appears in the close Rolls, which could not be done if they were not baileable: and it is every dayes experience that the Justices of the Kings Bench do baile for murder, and for Offences done in the Forrest; which they could not do, if the word Irreplevisable in Westminster l. were meant of the Justices as well as the Sheriffs.

For the Authorities that have been of­fered to prove the contrary, Object.1. they are in number three. The first is 21. Edward 1. rot. 2. in Scrin. which also is in the book of Pleas in the Parliament at the Tower fol. 44. It is not an Act of Parliament, but a Resolution in Parliament, upon an Action there brought, which was usual in those times. And the Case is, that Stephen Ra­bab the Sheriff of the County of Leicester, and Warwick was questioned for that he [Page 239] had let at large, by Sureties, amongst others, one William the Sonne of Walter le Persons, against the will and command of the King, whereas the King had com­manded him by Letters under his Privy Seal, that he should do no favour to any man, that was committed by the command of the Earl of Warwick, as that man was: VVhereunto the Sheriff answered, that he did it at the request of some of the King's Houshold upon their Letters. And because the Sheriff did acknowledge the receipt of the King's Letters, thereupon he was com­mitted to Prison, according to the form of the Statute.

To this I answer, that the Sheriff was justly punished, for that he is expresly bound by the Statute of West. 1. which was agreed from the beginning. But this is no proof that the Judges had not power to baile this man.

The next Authority is 33. Object.2. Henry 6.in the Court of Common Pleas, fol. 28. b. 29.where Robert Poynings Esq was brought to the Bar upon a Capias, and it was returned, that he was committed per duos de Concilio (which is strongest against what I main­tain) pro diversis causis Regem tangentibus, And he made an Attorney there in an A­ction: Whence it is inferred, that the Re­turn was good, and the Party could not be delivered.

To this the answer is plain. First, Resp. no Opinion is delivered, in that Book, one [Page 238] way or other upon the Return, neither is there any testimony whether he were deli­vered or bailed, or not.

Secondly, it appears expresly that he was brought thither to be charged in an Action of Debt at another mans Suit, and no desire of his own to be delivered or bail­ed: and then, if he were remanded, it is no way material to the question in hand.

But that which is most relyed upon, Object.3. is the Opinion of Stanford in his book of the Pleas of the Crown Lib. 2. cap. 18. fol. 72. 73, in his Chapter of Mainprise, where he reciteth the Chapter of West. 1. cap. 15. and then saith thus: By this Statute it ap­pears, that in 4. Causes at the Common Law a man was not replevisable; to wit, those that were taken for the death of a man, by the command of the King, or of his Justices, or for the Forrest. Thus far he is most right. Then he goeth on and saith; As to the command of the King; that is understood of the command by his own mouth, or his Council, which is incorporated unto him and speak with his mouth; or otherwise every Writ of Capias to take a man (which is the Kings command) would be as much. And as to the command of the Justices, their ab­solute commandment; for if it be their ordinary Commandment, he is replevi­sable by the Sheriff, if it be not in some of the Cases prohibited by the Statute.

[Page 240] The answer that I give unto this is, that Stamford hath said nothing whether a man may be committed without cause by the Kings command, or whether the Judges might not baile him in such Case; but on­ly that such an one is not replevisable; which is agreed; for that belongs to the Sheriff: and because no man should think he meant any such thing, he concludes his whole sentence touching the command of the King and the Justices, that one com­mitted by the Justice's ordinary command is replevisable by the Sheriff; So either he meant all by the Sheriff; or at least it appears not that he meant, that a man committed by the King or the Privy Coun­cil, without cause, is not baileable by the Justices: and then he hath given no opi­nion in this Case. What he would have said, if he had been asked the question, can­not be known: Neither doth doth it appear by any thing he hath said, that he meant any such thing as would be inforced out of him.

And now, my Lords, I have performed the command of the house of Commons, and (as I conceive) shall leave their Decla­ration of personal liberty an antient and undoubted truth, fortifyed with seven Acts of Parliament, and not opposed by any Statute or Authority of Law whatsoever.

The Objections of the Kings Councel, with the Answers made thereunto at the two other conferences touch­ing the same matter.

IT was agreed by Master Attorney Gene­ral, that the seven Statutes urged by the Commons were in force, and that Magna Charta did extend most properly to the King, But he said, that some of them are in general words, and therefore con­clued nothing; but are to be expounded by the Presidents, and others, that be more particular; are applied to the suggestions of Subjects, aud not to the Kings command simply of it self.

Hereunto is answered, that the Sta­tutes were as direct as could be, which ap­peareth by the reading of them, and that though some of themspeak of suggestions of the Subjects, yet others do not; and they that. do, are as effectual; for that they are in qual reason; a commitment by the command of the King being of as great force when it moveth by a suggestion feom a Subject, as when the King taketh notice of the cause himself; the rather, for that Kings seldome intermeddle with matters of this nature, but by information from some of their People.

2. Master Attorney objected, that per legem terrae in Magna Charta (which is the Foundation of this question) cannot be [Page 242] understood for process of the Law and O­riginal Writ: for that in all Criminal proceedings no Original Writs is used at all, but every Constable may arrest, either for felony, or for breach of the Peace, without process or Original Writ: And it were hard the King should not have the power of a Constable: and the Statutes cited by the Commons make process of the Law, and Writ Original to be all one.

The Answer of the Commons to this Ob­jection was, that they do not intend Original Writs only by the Law of the Land, but all other legal process which comprehend the whole proceedings of Law upon the cause; other then the tryal by Jury, per judi­cium parium, unto which it is opposed. Thus much is imposed ex vi termini, out of the word process, and by the true acceptation thereof in the Statute have been urged by the Commons to maintain their declarati­on; and most especially in the Statutes of 25. Edward 3. c [...] p. 4. where it appeareth, that a man ought to be brought in to answer by the course of the Law, having made for­mer mention of process made by Original Writ. And in 28. Edward 3. cap. 3. by the course of the Law, is rendred by due process of the Law. And 36. Edward 3. Rot. Parl. nu. 20. the Petition of the Commons saith, [...] that no man ought to be imprisoned by special command without Indictment, or other due process to be made by the Law. 37 Edward 3. cap 18. calleth the [Page 243] same thing process of the Law. And 42. Edward 3. cap. 3. stileth it by due process and Writ Original; where the Conjun­ctive must be taken for a Disjunctive; which change is ordinary in exposition of Statutes and Deeds to avoid inconvenien­ces, and to make it stand with the rest, and with Reason, and it may be Collected, that by the Law of the Land in Magna char­ta; by the course of the Law in 2 5. Edward 3. by due process of the Law in 28. Ed. 3. other due process to be made by the Law 36. Edward 3. process of the Law 37. Ed­ward 3. and by due process and Writ Ori­ginal 42. Edward 3. are meant one and the same thing; the latter of these Statutes referring alwayes to the former; and that all of them import any due and regular proceeding of Law upon a cause, other then a trial by Jury. And this appeareth Cook 10. 74. in the case of the Marsha [...]c; and Cook.1.99. Sir. James Bagg's case, where it is understood of giving jurisdiction by Charter or Prescription, which is the ground or a proceeding by course of Law; and in S [...]ld [...]rs Notes ou [...] fol. 29. where it is expounded for Wager of Law, which is likewise a TRYAL at Law by the Oath of the party, differing from that of Jury: and it doth truly compre­hend these and all other regular proceed­ings in Law upon cause, which gives au­thority to the Constable to arrest upon cause; and if this should not be the true [Page 244] exposition of these words (per legem terrae) the King's Council were desired to declare their meaning; which they never offered to do; And yet certainly, these words were not put into the Statute, without some intention of consequence.

And thereupon M. Serjeant Ashley offered an interpretation of them thus; namely, that there were divers Laws of this Realm; As the Common Law; the Law of the Chancery; the Ecclesiastical Law; the Law of Admiralty or Marine Law; the Law of Merchants; the Martial Law; and the Law of State: And that these words, (per legam terrae) do extend to all those Laws.

To this it was answered, That we read of no Law of State, and that none of those Laws can be meant there, save the Com­mon, which is the principal and general Law, and is always understood by way of Excellency, when mention is made of the Law of the Land generally; and that though each of the other Laws which are admitted into this Kingdom by Custome or Act of Par­liament, may justly be called a Law of the land; yet none of them can have that preheminency to be stiled the Law of the Land; and no Stature, Law-book, or o­ther Authority, printed or unprinted, could be shewed to prove that the Law of the Land, being generally mentioned, was e [...]er intended of any other Law than the Common Law (and yet, even by these o­ther [Page 245] Laws a man may not be committed without a cause expressed) but it standeth with the Rule of other legal expositions, that per legem terrae, must be meant the Com­mon Law, by which the general and uni­versal Law by which men hold their Inhe­ritances, and therfore if a man speak of Escuage generally, it is understood (as Littleton observeth plt, 99.) of the incer­tain Escuage, which is a Knight [...]s serviec tenure for the defence of the Realm by the body of the Tenant in time of VVar; and not of the certain Escuage which gi­veth only a contribution in money, and no personal service. And if a Statute speak of the King's Courts of Record, it is meant only of the four at Westminster by way of Excellency: Cook. 6. 20. Grego­ries case. So the Canonists, by the Excom­munication, if simply spoken, do intend the greater Excommunication; and the Emperor in his Institutions, saith, that the Civil Law being spoken generally, is meant of the Civil Law of Rome, though the Law of every City is a Civil Law, as when a man names a Poet, the Grecians understand Homer, the Latinists Virgil.

Secondly, admit that per legem terrae ex­tend to all the Laws of the Land; yet a man must not be committed by any of them, but by the due proceedings that are exercised by those Laws, and upon cause declared.

Again it was urged, that the King is [Page 246] not bound to express a cause of imprison­ment; because there may be in it matter of State not fit to be revealed for a time, least the Confederates thereupon make means to escape the hands of Justice: and therefore the Statutes cannot be intended to restrain all Commitments, unless a cause be expressed; for that it would be very inconvenient and dangerous to the State to publish the cause at the very first.

Hereunto it was replyed by the Com­mons, That all danger and inconvenience may be avoided by declaring a general Cause; as, for Treason; for suspition of Treason, Misprision of Treason, or Fe­lony, without specifying the particular; which can give no greater light to a con­federate then will be conjectured by the very apprehension or upon the imprison­ment, if nothing at all were expres­sed.

It was further alleadged, that there was a kind of contradiction in the Position of the Commons, when they say, that the party committed without a cause shewed, ought to be delivered or bailed; bailing be­ing a kind of imprisonment, delivery a to­tal freedome.

To this it was answered, that it hath alwayes been the discretion of the Judges to give so much respect to a commitment by the Command of the King or the pri­vie Councel, (which are ever intended to [Page 247] be done on just and weighty causes) that they will not presently set him free, but baile him to answer what shall be objected a­gainst him on his Majesties behalf: But if any other inferiour Officer commit a man without cause shewed, they do in­stantly deliver him as having no cause to expect their pleasure; so the delivery is applyed to an imprisonment by the com­mand of some mean Minister of justice; bail­ing when it is done by the command of the King or his Councel.

It was urged by Master Attorney, That bailing is a grace and favour of a Court of Justice, and that they may refuse to do it. This was agreed to be true in divers cases, as where the cause appeareth to be for fe­lony, or other crime expressed; for that there is another way to discharge them in convenient time, by their tryal; (And yet in those cases the constant practise hath been, antiently and modernly to bayle men) but where no cause of the imprison­ment is returned, but the command of the King, there is no way to deliver such per­sons, by tryal or otherwise, but that of Habeas Corpus, and if they should be then remanded, they may be perpetually im­prisoned, without any remedy at all, and consequently, a man that had committed no Offence might be in worse case then a great Offendor; for, the latter should have an ordinary tryal to discharge him, the o­ther should never be delivered.

[Page 248] It was further said, that though the Statute of West. I. cap, 15. as a Statute, by way of provision did extend only to the Sheriff; yet the Recital in that Statute, touching the 4. Causes wherein a man was not replevisable at Common Law (namely those that were committed for the death of a man; by the command of the King, or the Justices, or for the Forrest) did de­clare that the Justices could not baile such an one, and that Replevisable and baile­able were Synonyma, and all one. And that Stanford (a Judge of great authority) doth expound it acordingly; and that neither the Statute not He say replevisable by the Sheriff, but generally without restraint; and that if the Chief Justiee committed a man, he is not to be enlarged by a­nother Court, as appeareth in the Regi­ster.

1. To this it was answered; First, that the Recital and Body of the Statute re­late only to the Sheriff, as appeareth by the very words.

2. That Replevisable is not restrained to the Sheriff; for that the word imports no more, that a man committed by the Juftice is baileable by the Court of the King [...]s Bench.

3. That Stamford meaneth all of the Sheriff, or at the least he hath not suffici­ently expressed that he intended the Justi­ces.

4. It was denyed that Replevisable and [Page 249] Baileable are the same: For, they differ in respect of the place where they are used, Bail being in the King's Courts of Record, Replevisable before the Sheriff. And they are of several Natures, Replevisable being a letting at large upon Sureties; Bailing, when one Traditur in ballium, and the baile are his Jaylors, and may imprison him, and shall suffer body for body; which is not true of replevying by Sureties. And Bail differeth from Mainprize in this, that Mainprize is an undertaking in a sum certain, Bailing to answer the condem­nation in civil Causes, and in criminal body for body.

And the Reasons and Authorities used in the first conference were then renewed, and no exception taken to any, save that in 22. Henry 6. it doth not appear that the Command of the King was by his mouth (which must be intended) or by his Councel (which is all one, as is ob­served by Stamford) for the words are, that a man is not replevisable by the Sheriff, who is committed by the Writ or Com­mandment of the King.

21. Edward 1. Rot. 2. dorso was cited by the Kings Counsel, But it was answer­ed, that it concerned the Sheriff of Leicester­shire only; and not the power of the Jud­ges.

33. Henry 6. the King's Attorney con­fessed was nothing to the purpose; and yet that Book had been usually cited by [Page 250] those that maintain the contrary to the de­claration of the Commons; No. and therefore such sudden opinion as hath been given thereupon is not to be regarded, the Foun­dation failing.

And where it was said, that the French of 36. Edward Rot. Parl. n. 9. (which can­receive no answer) did not warrant but what was enforced thence; but that these words, (Sans disturbance metter, ou arrese faire,& l'encontre per special mandement on en autre manere) must be understood, that the Statutes should be put in execution without di­sturbance or stay; and not that they should be put in execution without putting di­sturbance or making arrest to the contrary by special command, or in other manner. The Commons did utterly deny the inter­pretation given by the Kings Councel; and to justifie their own, did appeal to all men that understood French, and upon the seven Statutes did conclude, that their Declarati­on remained an undoubted truth, not con­trouled by any thing said to the contrary.

The true Copies of the Re­cords not printed which were used on either side in that part of the deba e.
Inter. Record. Domini Regis Caroli in Thesaurar. recep. [...]. sui sub Custodia Domini Thesaurar. & Camer. ibidem remanen. videli­cet Plac. coram ipso Domino Rege & Concilio suo ad Parliamentum su­ [...]m post Pasc. apud London in Ma­ [...]erio Arch [...]piscopi Ebor. Anno Reg­ni Domini Regis Edwardi 21. int. al. sic. continetur ut sequitur.

Rot. Secundo in Dorso.

STephanus Rabar. Vic. Leicester. Vic. Leic. & Warr. co­ram ipso Domino Rege & ejus Conci­lio arrenatus & ad rationem positus de hoc quod cum Johan. Boutet [...]urte, Edw. Del Hache, & W. Havelin nuper in bal. ipsus Vic. per Dominum Regem fuissent assignat. ad Goales Domini Regis deliberand. idem Vic. quendam Wi [...]hel. de Petling per quen­dam Appellatorem ante adventum eorum ju­stic. ibidem appellatorem & Captum viven­te ipso Appellatore usque diem de liberatio­nis coram eis sact. dimisit per plevinam con­tra formam Statuti &c. Et etiam quendam [Page 252] Radum de Cokehal, qui de morte horninis judicatus fuit, & per eundem Vic. Captus, idem Vic. per plevinam dimisit contra formam Statuti, & etiam eundem Ra­dum fine ferris coram eisdem Justic. ad de­liberationem praed. produxit contra con­suetudinem Regni. Et sci. quendam Wilh. fllium Walteri la persone, qui per praeceptum Com. War. Captus fuit, per plevinam contra praeceptum Domini Re­gis, cum idem Dominus Rex per literas suas sub privat. sigillo suo eidem Vic. prae­cepit quod nulli per praecept. praed. Com. War. capt. aliquam gratiam faceret &c. Et super hoc praefat. Johannes Botetourte, qui praesens est, & qui fuit primus Justic. prae­dictorum praemissa recordatur. Et praedi­cuts Vic. dicit quoad praedictum Wilh. de Petling, quod ipse nunquam a tempo­re Captionis ipsius Wilh per praed. Ap­pellat. dimissus fuit per plevinam aliquam ante adventum praedictorum Justic. Imo dicit quod per dimidium Annum ante adventum eorundem Justic. captus fuit & semper detent. in prisona absque plevi­na aliqua quousque coram eis damnat. fuit. Et quoad praedictum Radum bene cognoscit quod ipse dimisit eum per ple­vinam, & hoc bene facere potuit ratione & authoritat. Officii sui, eo quod capt. fuit pro quadam simplic. transgr. & non pro aliqua felon. pro qua replegiari non potuir. Et quoad tertium, videlicet Wilh. silium per­sone, bene cognoscit quod ipse Captus [Page 253] fuit per praecept. praed. Com. War. & quod dimisit eum per plevinam; Sed dicit quod hoc fecit ad rogatum quorundam de ho­spitia & cur. Domini Regis &c. qui eum inde specialiter rogaverunt per literas suas. Et super hoc idem Vic. quaesit. per Domi­num Regem quis eum rogavit & literas suas ei direxit,& ubi literae illae sunt, dicit quod Walt. de Langton eum per literas suas inde rogavit; Sed dicit quod literae illae sunt in partibus suis Leic. Et super hoc idem Vic. profert quoddam brev. Domini Regis de privat. Sigillo eidem Vic. direct. quod testatur quod Dominus Rex ipsi Vic. prae­cepit quod omnes illos trangressores con­tra pacem & de quibus. Com. War. ei scire faceret, caperet. & salvo custodiret absque aliqua gratia ei faciend. Et quia praed. Iustic. expresse recordatur quod ipse & so­cii sui per bonum & legalem inquis. de Mi­litibus. & al. liberis. hominib. eis fact. inve­nerunt quod praedictus Gulielmus de Pet­lenge dimissus fuit per plevinam per mag-num tempus ante adventum eorund. Justic. usque adventum eorund. & per Vic. praed. & etiam quia praed. Vic. cognoscit quod praedictus Rad. dimissus fuit per plevinam per ipsum, un. & hoc dicit quod bene fa­cere potuit eo quod captus fuit pro levi transgr. Et per Record. ejusdem Justic. comp. est quod captus fuit pro morte ho­minis, quod est contrarium dec. praedicti vic. & scil. quia idem vic. cognovit quod re­cepit literam Domini Regis per quam Rex [Page 254] ei praecepit quod nullam gratiam faceret il­lis qui capti fuerunt per praeceptum prae­dicti Com. Et idem Vic. contra praecep­tum illud dimisit praedictum Wilh. fi­lium Walteri per plevinam, qui captus fuit per praeceptum praedicti Com. prout idem Vic. fatetur. Et sic tam ratione istius transg. quam aliarium praedictarum incurrit in poenam Statuti, cons. est quod praedictus Vic. Committatur prisonae juxta formam Statuti &c.

Ex Rot. Paliamenti de Anno Reg­ni Regis Edwardi tertii Trice­simo quinto n. 9.

PRimerement que le grande Charter, & la Charter de la Forreste, & les autre Esta­tutes faits en son temps, & de ses progenitors pur profit de luy & de la come, soient bien & ferment gardes, & mis en due execution sans disturbance mettre ou arrest faire, & l'ccontre per special mandement ou en autre manere.

Respons.

Nostre Sr. le Roy per assent de Prelates, Do­mines, Comites, Barones & la Come ad ordeine & estabili que les dits Charters & Estatutes soient tenus & mis en execution selon la dit Petition.

Nu. 2.

Item come ilsolt contenus en lagrand Charter et autres Estatutes que nul homme soit pris ne­my prisoner per especial mandement sans Endi­tement [Page 255] aut autre due proces affaire per la ley, et sonent foitz ad estre et uncore est, que plu­surs gentz sont empeschez, pris et imprisone sans Enditement ou autre proces fait per la ley sur eux, sibien de chose fait hors de la Forrest le Roy come per autre cause que plese a nostre dit Sr. comander et deliver ceux que sont issint pris per tiel especial mandement contre la forme des Charters et Estatutes avanditz. Respons.

Il plest au Roy, & sinulse sente greve vin­gne & face la pleinte, & droit luy sera fait.

33. Parl. Anno 42. Edward 3. n. 12.

Item pur ceo que plusours de vostre Come son tamerce & disturbes per faulx accusors quenx font lour accusements plus pur lour ven­geances & singulers profits que pur le profit de Roy ou de son peuple, et les accuses per cux ascuns ont est pris & ascuns sont faire ven. deut le Conceil l [...] Roy per brief on autre mandement de Roy sub gra [...]de pain encountre laley, Plese a nostre Sr. le Roy & son Counceil pur droit gou­vernment de son peuple ordeign que si desire as­cun accusors purpose ascun matire pur prosit du Roy que cele matire soit mander a ses Justi­ces del'un Banke ou del'autre, ou d' Assises dent enquere & terminere selonque laley, & si le touche lai onsour ou partie eit sa so [...]t a la come ley, & que null home soit mis a respondre sans presentment deut Justices, ou chose de Record, ou per due process et briefe original, s [...]lon l'an­cient ley de la terre, & si rien desire enovant soit fait a l'enco [...]tre, soit voide en ley, & tenu pur Errour. Respons.

[Page 256] Pur ceo que ceste Article est Article de la grande Charter le Roy voet qne ceo soit fait come la Petition demande.

Ex Rot. Claus. Anno Regis Edwardi primi primom. 1.

Thomas de Clirowe de Blechweth cap­tus & detentus in prisona North. De ponend. per Ballium. pro transgr. Forrest. habet literas Rogero de Clifford Justic. Forrest. citra Trentam quod ponatur per ballium, dat. apud S. Mar­tium Magnum London 20. die Octobris.

M.7.

Stephanus de Li dely captus & detent. in prisona Regis pro trans. per ipsum fact. in ha. Regis de Lyndeby habet literas. Regis Galfrido de Nevil Justic. ultra Trent. quod ponatur per Ballium.

M.9.

Thomas Spademan captus & detent. in prisona Oxon. pro morte Wilh. Win. unde rectat. est & habet literas Regis Vic. Oxon. quod ponatur per ballium. ibidem.

Gulielmus de Dene, Mathaeus Crust, Roger de Bedell, Gulielmus Halfrench, Robertus Wyant, Alex. Horeux, Henric. de Shorne, Nicholaus de Snodilond, Tur­gisius de Hertfield, Robertus de Pole, & Richardus Galiot capti & detent. in pri­sona [Page 257] de Cantuar. pro morte Galfridi de Catiller unde appellat. sunt, habent literas Regis Vic. Canc. quod ponantur per ballium Dat. &c, 23. die Martii.

Claus. Anno secundo Edwardi primi M. 12.

Rex Rogero de Cliffi Justic. Forrest ci­tra Trent. Mandamus yobis quod si Rober­tus Unwyne captus & detent. in prisona nostra de Aylesburie pro transgr. Forrestae nostrae, invenerit vobis duodecim probos & legales homines de balliva vestra qui manu­capiant eum habere coram Justic. rostris ad plac. Forrest. cum in parte &c. ad stand. inde rect. tunc apud Robertum si secund. assiam. Forreste fuerit repleg. praedictis 12. inte­rim tradit. in ballium sicut praedictum est. Et habeatis nomina illorum 12. hominum & ho. bre. Dat. 27. die Februarii.

Clauso Anno secundo Edwardi primi. M. 14.

Vnwynus de Boycot, Deponend. p [...] ballium. Gaf. de Wykenn & Hugh de Stowe detent. in prisona Regis de Aylesburie pro trangressione Venationis habuer. bre. direct. Regis de Clifford Justic. Forrest quod secundum assiam Forrest fu­erint repleg. ponantur per ballium usque adventum Justic. Regis ad plac. Forreste cum in partes illas venerit. Dat. apud Co­dington 28. die Decembris.

M. 15.

Gilbertus Conray de Kedington, & Hugh le Tailour de Kedington capti & detent. in prisona de secundo Edwardo pro morte Edwardi Butting, unde rectati sunt, habue­runt literas Regis Vic. Suff. quod ponantur per ballium.

Clauso Anno 3. Edwardi primi. M. 11.

Galfr. de Hayerton captus & detent. in prisona Regis Ebor. pro morte Ade le Clerc. unde rectatus est, habet literas Regis Vic. Ebor. quod ponatur per ballium. Dat. apud W. 15. die Junii.

M. 20.

Robertus Belharbe capt. & detent. in prisona Regis de Newgate pro morte Thomae Pollard. unde rectat, est, habet literas Regis Vic. Midd. quod ponatur per ballium. Dat. 28. die Februarii.

Clauso Anno quarto Edwardi primi. M. 5.

Mand. est Rad. de Sanadwico quod si Guli­elmus de Pattare & Johannes filius ejus, Wal­terus Home, Walt. Jorven, Henricus Pothe & Gulielmus Cadegan capti & detent. in prisona Regis de secundo Brianello pro trans. Forrest unde rectati sunt, invenerunt sibi duodecim probos & legales homi­nes de balliva sua, viz. quilibet eorum duodecim qui eos manucap. habere coram Justic. Regis ad plac. Forrest. cum [Page 259] in partes ill. venerent, ad stand. inde re­cto, tunc ipsos Willhelmum, Johannem, Walterum, Walterum, Henricum & Willh. praed. duodecim. scil. secundum assiam For­reste fuerint repleg. tradat in ballium ut praedictum est, Et habeat ibi nomina illo­rum duodecim hominum, & hoc. bre. T. Rege apud Bellum locum Regis 29. die Augusti.

Clauso Anno quarto Edwardi primi. M. 16.

Henricus filius Rogeri de Ken de Cottes­brook, Deponend. Par. ballium. captus & detent. in prisona nostra North. pro morte Simonis le Charetter unde appellatus est, habet literas Regis Vic. North. quod ponit. per ballium.

Clauso Anno quinto Edwardi primi. M. 1.

Mand. est Galfrido de Nevil Justic. For­reste ultra Trent. quod si Walter de la Gre­ne captus & detent. in prisona de Nott. pro trans. Forreste invenerit sibi duodecim probos & legales homines qui eum manu­capiant &c. ad stand. inde rect. secundum assiam Forreste Regis, tunc ipsum Walterum praedictis duodecim tradat in ballium si­cut praedictum est. Dat. decimo sexto die Novembris.

M. 2.

Thomas de Upwel & Jul. uxor ejus capt. & detent. in prisona de VVynbole [Page 260] pro morte Stephani Southell unde rectati sunt habuer. liter. Vic. Norff. quod ponan­tur per ballium. Dat apud Rocheland 28. die Septembris.

Clauso Anno sexto Edwardi primi. M.

Bilherus Pesse captus & detent. in priso­na Regis de Norwich pro morte Jul. quond. uxoris suae unde rectatus est, habet literas Vic. Norff. quod ponatur per ballium, T. Rege apud VVestmonast. 12. Novembris.

M. 4.

Mandat. est Vic. Nott. scilicet quod si Thomas de Cadrte rectatus de transg. Forrest quam fecisse dicebatur in Forresto de Shirwood, invenerit sibi sex probos & legales homines de balliva sua qui eum Reg. ad stand. rect. coram R. cum R. inde manucap. habere coram Rege ad mand. vers. eum loqui voluerit, tunc praed. Tho. praed. sex hominib. tradat in ballium juxta manucaptionem supradictam. Dat. decimo quinto die Decembris.

M. 4.

Thorn. Burell Capt. & detent. in prisona Regis Exon. pro morte Galf. Giffarde unde rectat. est, habet litteras Vic. Devon. quod ponatur per ballium.

Clauso Anno 3. Edwardi secundi. M. 13.

Adem le Piper Capt. & detent. in Gaole Regis Ebor. pro morte Henr. Adam depo­nend. in ball. le Simer de Escricke unde rect. est, habet literas Re­gis Vic. Ebor. quod ponatur per ballium usque ad prim. assiam. T. Rege apud Westm. septimo die Febr.

M. 14.

Margareta uxor VVilh. Calbot capta & detent. in Gaole Regis Norwic. pro mor­te Agnetis filiae Wilh. Calbot. & Martil. soror. ejusdem Agnet. unde rectata est, habet literas Regis Vic. Norff. quod pona­tur per ballium. T. Rege apud Shene 22. die Jan.

M. 18.

Johannes Frere Capt. & detent. in Gaole Regis Exon. pro morte Ade de Egelegh unde rectat. est, habet literas Regis Vic. De­von. quod ponatur per ballium. T. Rege apud VVestm. 8. die De [...]embris.

Clauso Anno quarto Edwardi Secundi. M. 7.

Robertus Shereve capt. & detent. in Gaole Regis de Colcestr. pro morte Ro­bertile M [...]igne unde in [...]i [...]tat. est, habet lite­ras [Page 262] Regis Vic. Essex, quod ponatur in ballium usque ad pri. assiam. Dat. 22. die Maii.

M. 8.

VVilh. filius Rogerile Fishere de Shur­borne capt. & detent. in Gaole Regis Ebor. pro morte Roberti le Monnour de Nor­ton unde rectatus est, habet literas Re­gis Vic. Ebor. quod ponatur per ballium usque ad pri. Assiam, Dat. 25. Die April.

Clauso Anno quarto Edwardi secundi. M. 22.

Thom. Ellys de Stamford capt. & de­tent. in prisona Regis Lincoln. pro morte Michael. filii VVilh. de Foderingey unde rectatus est, habet literas Regis Vic. Linc. quod ponatur in ballium usque ad pri. Assiam. T. Rege apud novam VVest. octavo die Septembris.

Patent. Anno octavo Edwardi pars prima membr. 14.

Rex omnib. ad quos &c. Salutem. Scia­tis quod cum Georgius De Rupe de Hiber. Pro Georgio de Rupe. defunctus pro eo quod ad Parliamenta a­pud Dublin in Hibern. Ann. Regni Domi­ni Edwardi nuper Regis Angl. praec. no­strivicesimo, & Anno Regni nostri secun­do [Page 263] tenta, non venit prout summonitus fuit, ad ducentas marcas amerciatus fuisset ut accipimus, Ac Johannes filius praedicti Georgii nobis supplicaverit ut habito re­spectu ad hoc quod praedictus pater suus se a Parliamentis praedictis causa in obedien­tiae non absentavit, per quod ita excessive amerciari deberet, Velimus concedere, quod amerciamenta illa quae ab ipso Jo­hanne ad opus nostrum per summonitio­nem Sccii nostri Dublin jam exigunt, ju­ste moderentur. Nos volentes cum eo­dem Johanne gratiose agere in hac parte, Volumus & concedimus quod decem librae tantum de praedictis ducentis marcis ad opus nostrum ex causis praemissis leventur; Et praefatum Johannem de toto residuo earundum ducentarum marcarum tenore praesentium quietamus. In Cujus. &c. T. Rege apud Novum Castrum super Ty­nam.

Per Petitionem de Concilio apud Novum Castrum super Tynam.

Et mandat. est Thomae & Camerar. de Sccio. Dublin quod praedictas decem li­bras de praedictis ducentis marcis de prae­fato Johanne ad opus Regis levent, & ip­sum Johannem de toto residuo inde ad­dict. Sccam. exonerari & quietum esse fact. T. ut supra.

Per eandem Petitionem

Patent. vicesimo septimo Edwardi tertii pars prima membr. 13.

Rex omnibus ad quos &c. Salut. Sciatis quod de gra. Pro Iacobo de Audele de non veniendo ad Parliamen­ta. nostra speciali Concessimus pro nobis & hered. nostris dilecto, & fideli nostro Iacobo Daudle de Helegh quod ipse ad to tam vitam quietus sit de veniendo ad Parliamenta & Conciiia nostra & hered. nostrorum ac etiam ad congregationes Magnatum & procerum ad mandata no­stra vel heredum nostrorum ubicunque faciend. Ita quod idem Jacobus, quo­ad vixerit ra [...]ione non adventus sui ad Parliamenta, Concilia, seu Congregatio­nes hujusmodi, seu Personalis Compara­tionis in eisdem per nos vel heredes no­stros aut ministros nostros quoscunque non impetatur, occasionetnr aliqual. seu gravetur. Concessimus insuper pro no­bis & [...]ered. nostris praefato jacobo quod ipse toto tempore vitae suae ad laborand. de guerra in servitiis nostris vel hered. no­strorum seu ad homines ad arma, hobela­rios, vel sagitarios in hujusmodi servitiis ex nunc inveniend. extta Regnum nostrum Angl. nisi cum Regale servitium nostrum aut heredum nostrorum summonitum fu­erit, contra voluntatem suam nullatenus Compellatur, nec ea de causa aliquali er impetatur, Ita semper quod idem Jacobus cum hominibus ad arma & aliis armatis pro defensione Regni nostri Angl. infra idem Regnum quoties aggressus inimi­corum [Page 265] nostrorum aut aliud periculum vel necessitas eidem Regno immineant una cum aliis fidelibus nostris ipsius Regni proficiscat. & homines ad arma, hobelar. & sagittar. juxta statum suum sicut Caeteri de eodem Regno ea de causa invenire te­neatur. In Cujus rei &c. T. Rege apud West. 20. die April.

per ipsum Regem.

Patent. 42. Edwardi. 3. part. secunda mem. 13.

Rex omnibus Ball. Pro Roberto de Insula mi­lite de non­v [...] endo ad Parliament. & fidelibus suis ad quos &c. Salutem. Sciatis quod de gra. no­stra speciali concessimus pro nobis & hered. nostris dilecto & fideli nostro Roberto de Insula mil. fil. & heredi Johannis de Insula, quod idem Robertus ad totam vitam su­am hanc habeat libertatem, videlicet, quod ad Parliamenta seu Concilia nostra vel he­red. nostrorum ex quacunque causa veni­re minime teneatur. Et quod ipse in ali­qua Jurata, attincta aut magna Assisas nos vel heredes nostros tangent. aut aliis Juratis, attinctis aut assizis quibuscun­que non ponatur &c. Et ideo Vobis mandamus quod praedictum Robertum contra hanc concessionem nostram non molestetis in aliquo seu gravetis. In Cujus &c. T. Rege apud West. 24. die Novembr

per breve de privato Sigillo.

Pat. 34. Henric. sext. membr. 23.

Rex omnibus ad quos &c. Pro Rich. Duce Ebor. de tenend. Parliamentum nomine Regi [...]. Salut. Sciatis quod cum pro quibusdam arduis & urgen­tibus negotiis nos statum & defensionem Regni nostri Angl. ac Ecclesiae Anglicanae contingentibus, quoddam Parliamentum nostrum nuper apud Palatium nostrum VVest. teneri, & usque ad duodecim. diem hujus instantis mensis Novembr. ad idem Palatium nostrum adjornari & prorogari ordinaverimus, quia vero dicto Parlia­mento nostro propter certas justas & rati­onabiles causas in persona nostra non potue­tuerimus interesse, Nos de circumspectio­ne & industria Carissimi Consanguinei nostri Rich. Ducis Ebora. plenam fiduci­am reportantes, eidem Consanguineo no­stro ad Parliamentum praedictum nomine nostro tenend. & in eod. procedend. & ad faciend. omnia & singula quae pro nobis & per nos pro bono regimine & guberna­tione Regni nostri praedicti ac aliorum Dominorum nostrorum eidem Regno no­stro pertinent. ibidem fuerint faciend. nec non ad Parliamentum illud finiend. & dis­solvend. de assensu Concilii nostri plenam tenore praesentium Commisimus potesta­tem. Dantes ulterius de assensu ejusdem Concilii nostri tam universis & singulis Archiepiscopis, Episcopis, Abbatibus, Pri­oribus, Ducibus, Comitibus, Vice-comitibus, Baronibus & Militibus cum omnibus aliis quorum interest ad Parlia­mentum [Page 267] nostrum praedictum conventur. scilic. tenore praesentium firmiter in man­datis quod eidem Consanguineo nostro intendant in praemissis in forma praedicta. In Cujus &c. T. Rege. apud VVest. II. die Novembr. Per breve de privato Sigillo & de dat. praedict. &c.

Pat. 24. Henric. 6. memb. 19. pars prima.

Rex omnibus Balliis & fidelibus suis ad quos &c. De non veni­end. ad Parlia. Lovel. Salut. Sciatis quod cum ubi VVilh. Lovell miles ad Parliamenta & Concilia nostra ad mandatum nostrum, venire te­neatur, hinc est quod idem VVilhelmus, ob divers. infirmat. quibus detinetur, abs­que maximo corporis sui periculo ad Par­liamenta & Concilia praedicta laborare non sufficit, ut informamur. Nos praemis­sa, ac bona & gratuita servitia quae idem VVilh.tam patri nostro defuncto quam no­bis in partibus transmarinis impendit, & nobis in in Regno nostro Angl. impendere desiderat Considerantes, de gratia nostra speciali Concessimus eidem VVilh. quod ipse durante vita sua per nos vel hered. nostros ad veniend. ad Parliamenta seu Concilia nostra quaecunque tent. sive in posterum tenen. contra voluntatem suam non ar­ctetur nec Compellatur quovis modo, Sed quod ipse ab hujusmodi Parliamentis & Conciliis in futur. se absentare possit licite & impune, aliquo Statuto, Actu, Ordina­tione. sive Mandaro inde in Contrarium [Page 268] fact. ordinat. sive provis. non obstant. Et ulterius volumus, & eidem Wilhelmo per praes. Concedimus quod absentatio hujus­modi non cedat ei in damnum seu preju­dicium quoquo modo, Sed quod praes. Car­ta nostra de exemptione, per praefatum Wilh. seu alium quemcunque nomine suo in quibuscunque locis infra Regnum nostrum Angl. demonstrat. super demonstratione illa eidem Wilh. valeat & allocetur, Pro­viso semper quod idem Wilh. ad volunta­tem suam, & heredes sui loca sua in Par­liamenta & Conciliis praedictis habeant & teneant, prout idem Wilh. & antecesso­res sui in hujusmodi Parliamentis & Con­ciliis ab antiquo habuerunt & tenuerunt, Concessione nostra praedicta non obstante. In Cujns. &c. T. Rege apud West. quarto die Febr.

Per breve de privato sigillo & de da­ta praedicta authoritate Parliamenti.

Clauso Anno 27. Henric. 6. m. 24. dorso.

Rex dilecto & fidel. suo Hen. summonit. Parliamenti. Bromflete Militi Baroni de Vescy Salutem. Quia & Volumus enim vos & heredes vestros mas­culos de Corpore vestro legitime exeuntes Barones de Vessey existere. T. Rege apud West. 24. die Januar.

Pat. 34. Henric. sext. membr.13.

Rex concessit Hen. Bromflete militi do­mino [Page 269] Vessey qui senio & tantis infirmita­tibus detentus existit, Pro Henrico. Dom. Vessey de exemptio­ne. quod absque maximo Corporis sui periculo labor. non sufficit, quod ipse durante vita sua ad personalit. veniend. ad person. Regis, per aliquod breve sub magno vel privato sigillo, aut per lite­ram sub sigillo Signeti Regis, vel per ali­quod ad aliud mandatum Regis vel hered. suorum seu ad aliquod Concilium, sive Parliamentum Regis vel hered. suorun ex nunc tenend. nul­latenus arctatur neque compellatur Contra vo­luntat. suam &c. T. Rege apu [...] West. 13. die Maii.

Per ipsum Regem de dat. praedicta auctoritate Parliamenti.

A SPEECH Delivered i …

A SPEECH Delivered in the Lower House of PARLIAMENT Assembled at OXFORD: In the first year of the Reign of KING CHARLES, I.

By Sir ROBERT COTTON Knight and Barronet.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672.

A SPEECH Delivered in the Lower House of PARLIAMENT Assembled at OXFORD: In the first year of the Reign of King CHARLES.

Mr. SPEAKER,

ALthough the constant VVis­dome of this House of Commons did well and worthily appear in censu­ring that ill advised Mem­ber the last day, for tren­ching so far into their antient Liberties, and might encourage each worthy Servant of the publique here to offer freely up his Council and opinion: Yet since these VValls cannot conceal from the Ears of captious, guilty and revengful men with­ou [...], the Councel and debates within: [Page 274] I will endeavour, as my clear mind is free from any personal distaste of any one, so to express the honest thoughts of my Heart, and discharge the best care of my trust, as no person shall justly taxe my innocent and publick mind, except his Conscience shall make him guilty of such Crimes as worthily have in Parliament im­peached others in elder times. I will there­fore, with asmuch brevity as I can, set down how these disorders have by degrees sprung up in our own memories; how the Wisdom of the best and wisest Ager did of old redress the like. And lastly, what modest and dutiful course I would wish to be followed by our selves in this so happy Spring of our hopeful Master. For ( Mr. Speaker) we are not to judge, but to pre­sent: The redress is above ad Querimoni­am Vulgi.

Now ( Mr. Speaker) so long as those at­tended about our late Soveraign Master, now with God, as had served the late Queen of happy memory, debts of the Crown were not so great; Commissions and G [...]ants not so often complained of in Parliaments; Trade flourished; Pen­sions not so many, though more then in the late Queens time: for they exceeded not 18000. l. now near 120000. l. All things of moment were carryed by pub­lick debate at the Council-Table; No ho­nour set to sale; nor places of Judica­ture. Lawes against Priests and Recu­sants [Page 275] were executed: Resort of Papists to Ambassadors houses barred and punished; His Majesty by daily direction to all his Ministers, and by his own Pen declaring his dislike of that Profession: No wastful expences in fruitless Ambassages, nor any transcendent power in any one Mini­ster. For matters of State, the Council-Table held up the fit and antient dignity. So long as my Lord of Somerset stood in state of grace, and had by his Majesty's fa­vour the trust of the Signet Seale; he oft would glory justly, there passed neither to himself, or his Friends any long Grants of his Highness Lands or Pensions: For that which himself had, he paid 20000. l. towards the Marriage-Portion of the King's Daughter. His care was to pass no Monopoly or illegal Grant, and that some Members of this House can witness by his charge unto them. No giving way to the sale of Honours, as a breach upon the Nobility (for such were his own words) refusing Sir John Roper's Office, then tendred to procure him to be made a Baron. The match with Spain, then offered (and with condition to require no further tolerati­on in Religion then Ambassadours here are allowed) discovering the double deal­ing and the dangers, he disswaded his Ma­jesty from; and left him so far in distrust of the Faith of that King, and his great Instrument Gondomar, then here residing, that his Majesty did term him long time [Page 276] after a Jugling Jack. Thus stood th'effect of his power with his Majesty when the Clouds of his misfortune fell upon him. VVhat the future advices led in, we may well remember. The marriage with Spain was again renewed: Gondomar declared an honest man: Poperie heartened, by ad­mission of those unsure, before conditions of Conveniencie. The forces of his Ma­jestie in the Palatinate withdrawn, upon Spanish faith improved here and beleived; by which his Highness Children have lost their Patrimony, and more money been spent in fruitless Ambassages, then would have maintained an Army fit to have recovered that Countrey. Our old and fast Allies disheartened, by that tedious and dangerous Treaty: And the King our now Master, exposed to so great a pe­ril, as no wise and faithful Councel would ever have advised. Errors in Government, more in misfortune by weak Councels, then in Princes.

The loss of the County of Poyntiffe in France, was laid to Bishop Wickham's charge in the first of Richard the 2. for perswading the King to forbear sending aid when it was required: a Capital crime in Parliament. The loss of the Dutchie of Maine was laid to Dela Poole Duke of Suffolk 28. Henry 6. in single and unwisely treating of a Marri­age in France.

A Spanish Treaty lost the Palatinate: VVhose Councel hath pronounced so great [Page 277] power to the Spanish Agent (as never before) to effect freedome to so many Priests as have been of late, and to become a Solli­citor almost in every Tribunal or the ill-affected Subjects of the State, is worth the enquiry.

VVhat Grants of Impositions before crossed, have lately been complained of in Parliaments? As that of Ale-houses, Gold-Thred, Pretermitted Customes, and many more; the least of which would have 50. Edward 3. adjudged in Parliament an hei­nous crime, aswel as those of Lyons and Latymer.

The Duke of Suffolk in Henry 6. time, in procuring such another Grant in derogati­on of the Common Law, was adjudged in Parliament.

The gift of Honours kept as the most sacred Treasure of the State, now set to saile, Parliaments have been Suitors to the King to bestow those Graces; as in the time of Edward 3. Henry 4. and Henry 6. More now led in by that way onely then all the merits of the best deservers huve got these last 500. years. So tender was the care of elder times that it is an Article 28. Henry 6. in Parliament against the Duke of Suffolk, that he had procured for himself, and some few others, such Titles of Ho­nour; and those so irregular, that he was the first that ever was Earl, Marquess, and Duke of the self same place. Edward the first restrained the number, in pollicie, [Page 278] that would have challenged a Writ by Tenure: and how this proportion may suit with profit of the State we cannot tell. Great deserts have now no other recompence then costly Rewards from the King; For, we now are at a vile Price of that which was once inestimable. If worthy Persons have been advanced freely to places of greatest trust, I shall be glad. Spencer was condemned in the 15. of Edward 3. for displacing good Servants about the King, and putting in his Friends and fol­lowers, not leaving, either in the Church or Common-Wealth, a place to any, before a Fine was paid unto him for his depen­dance. The like in part was laid by Par­liament on De la Poole. It cannot but be a sad hearing unto us all, what my Lord Treasurer the last day told us of his Ma­jesties great Debts, high Engagements, and present wants: The noise whereof I wish may ever rest inclosed within these Walls. For, what an incouragement it may be to our Enemies, and a disheartning to our Friends, I cannot tell. The danger of those, if any they have been the cause, is great and fearful. It was no small motive to the Parliament, in the time of Henry 3. to ba­nish the Kings half-Brethren for procu­ring to themselves so large proportion of Crown Lands. Gav [...]ston and Spencer for doing the like for themselves, and their followers in Edward the 2. time, and the Lady V [...]ssy for procuring the like for [Page 279] her Brother Beaumont, was banished the Court. Michael de la Poole was condemned the 20. of Richard 2. in Parliament, a­mongst other Crimes, for procuring Lands and Pensions from the King, and having imployed the Subsidies to other ends then the grant intended. His Grand-Child, William Duke of Suffolk, for the like was censured 28. Henry 6. The great Bishop of Winchester, 50. Edward. 3. was put up­on the Kings mercy by Parliament for wasting in time of Peace, the Revenues of the Crown, and gifts of the People, to the yearly oppression of the Common-VVealth. Offences of this Nature were urged to the ruining of the Last Duke of Somerset in Edward 6. time. More fearful Examples may be found, too frequent in Records. Such Improvidence and ill Council led Henry the third into so great a strait, as after he had pawned some part of his Forreign Territories, broke up his House, and sought his Diet at Abbies and Religious houses, ingaged not onely his own Iewels, but those of the Shrine of Saint Edward at Westminster, he was in the end (not content, but) constrained to lay to pawne (as some of his Successors after did) Magnam Coronam Angliae, the Crown of England. To draw you out to life the Image of former Kings extremities, I will tell you what I found since this As­sembly at Oxford, written by a Reverend man twice Vice-Chancellour of this place: his [Page 280] name was Gascoign; a man that saw the Tragedy of De la Poole: He tells you that the Revenues of the Crown were so Rent away by ill Councel, that the King was inforced to live de Tallagiis Populi: That the King was grown in debt quinque centena millia librarum: That his great Favourite, in treating of a Forrieign Marriage, had lost his Master a Forreign Dutchie: That to work his ends, he had caused the King to adjourn the Parliament in Villis & re­moti partibus Regni, where few People, propter d [...]fectum hospitii & victualium could attend, and by shifting that assembly from place to place to inform (I will use the Authors words) illos paucos qui remane­bunt de Communitate Regin, concedere Regi quamvispessima. VVhen the Parliament en­deavoured by an Act of Resumption, the just and frequent way to repair the lan­guishing State of the Crown (for all from Henry 3. but one, till the 6. of Henrry 8. have used it) this great man told the King it was ad dedecus Regis, and forced him from it: To which the Commons answered, although vexati laboribus & expensis, Quod nunquam concederent taxam Regi, until by authority of Parliament, r [...]su [...]eret actua­liter omnia p [...]rtinentia Coronae Anglioe. And that it was magis ad dedecus Regis, to leave so many poor men in intolerable VVant, to whom the King stood then indebtad. Yet nought could all good Councel work, until by Parliament that bad great man [Page 281] was banished: which was no sooner done; but an Act of Resumption followed the inrollment of the Act of his Exile­ment. That was a speeding Article a­gainst the Bishop of Winchester and his Bro­ther, in the time of Edward 3. that they had ingrossed the person of the King from his other Lords. It was not forgotten against Gaveston and the Spencers in Edward 2. time. The unhappy Ministers of Ri­chard 2. Henry 6. and Edward 6. felt the weight to their Ruine of the like Errors. I hope we shall not complain in Parlia­ment again of such.

I am glad we have neither just cause or undutiful dispositions to appoint the King a Councel to redress those Errors in Parlia­ment, as those of the 42. H. 3. We do not de­sire, as 5. H. 4. or 29. H. 6. the removing from about the King of evil Councellors. We do not request a choise by name, as 14. E. 3. 3. 5. 11. R. 2. 8. H. 4. or 31. H. 6. nor to swear them in Parliament, as 35, E. 1. 9. E. 2. or 5. R. 2. or to line them out their directions of rule, as 43. H. 3. and 8. H. 6. or desire that which H. 3. did promise in his 42. year se act [...]o [...]nia per as­sensum Magnatum de Concilio suo electorum, & sine eor assensu nihil. We only in loyal duty offer up our humble desires, that since his Ma­jesty hath with advised Judgement elected so wise, religious & worthy Servants to attend him in that high imployemnt, he will be pleased to advise with them together, a way of remedy for those disasters in State, led in by long security and happy peace, and not with young and single Councel.

A SPEECH Made by Sir …

A SPEECH Made by Sir ROB. COTTON

Knight and Baronet, before the Lords of his Majesties most Honourable PRIVYCOVNCEL, At the Councel Table: be­ing thither called to deliver his Opinion touching The ALTERATION OF COYNE.

2. Sept. Annoque Regni Regis Caroli 2.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672

A SPEECH Touching the ALTERATION OF COYNE.

My LORDS,

SInce it hath pleased this Honourable Table to command, amongst o­thers, my poor Opinion concerning this weighty Proposition of money, I must humbly ctave par­don; if with that Freedome that becomes my duty to my good and gratious Master, and my obedience to your great command, I deliver it so up.

I cannot (my good Lords) but assuredly conceive, that this intended Project of enhauncing the Coyne, Honour Ju­stice & Profit will trench both into the Honour, the Justice, and the Pro­fit [Page 286] of my Royal Master very farre.

All Estates do stand Mag is Famâ quam Vi, Honour as Tacitus saith of Rome: and Wealth in every Kingdome is one of the Essential marks of their Greatness: and that is best expressed in the Measure and Puritie of their Monies. Hence was it, that so lohg as the Roman Empire (a Pattern of best Government) held up their Glory and Greatness, they ever maintained, with little or no charge, the Standard of their Coine. But after the loose times of Com­modus had led in Need by Excess, and so that Shift of Changing the Standard, the Majesty of that Empire fell by degrees. And as Vopiscus saith, the steps by which that State descended were visibly known most by the gradual alteration of their Coine, And there is no surer Symptome of a Con­sumption in State then the corruption in money.

What renown is left to the Posterity of Edward the first in amending the Standard, Edw. 1. both in purity and weight from that of elder and more barbarous times, must stick as a blemish upon Princes that do the contrary. Hen. 6. Thus we see it was with Henry the sixth; who, after he had begun with abating the measure, he after fell to a­bating the matter; and granted commis­sions to Missenden and others to practise Alchemy to serve his Mint. The extremity of the State in general felt this aggrie­vance, besides the dishonour it laid upon [Page 287] the person of the King, was not the least advantage his disloyal Kinsman took to ingrace, himself into the Peoples favour, to his Soveraign's ruine.

VVhen Henry the 8. Hen. 8. had gained asmuch of Power and Glory abroad, of Love and O­bedience at home, as ever any; he suffered Shipwrack of all upon this Rock.

VVhen his Daughter Queen Elizabeth came to the Crown, Queen Eliz. she was happy in Council to amend that Error of her Fa­ther: For, in a Memorial of the Lord Treasurer Burliegh's hand, I find that he and Sir Thomas Smith (a grave and learned man) advising the Queen that it was the honour of her Crown, and the true wealth of her Self and People, to reduce the Stan­dard to the antient purity and p [...]rity of her great Grand-Father King Edward 4. Edw. 4 And that it was not the short ends of VVit, nor starting holes of devises that can su­stain the expence of a Monarchy, but sound and solid courses: for so are the words. She followed their advise, and began to reduce the Monies to their elder goodness, stiling that work in her first Proclamation Anno 3. A Famous Act. The next year fol­lowing, having perfected it as it after stood; she tells her People by another Edict, that she had conquered now that Monster that had so long devoured them, meaning the Variation of the Standard: And so long as that sad Adviser lived, she never (though often by Projectors importuned) could be [Page 288] drawn to any shift or change in the Rate of her monies.

To avoid the trick of Permutation, Coyn was devised, as a Rate and Measure of Mer­chandize and Manufactures; which if mu­table, no man can tell either what he hath, Iustice [...]. or what he oweth, no contract can be cer­tain, and so all commerce, both publique and private, destroyed; and men again en­forced to Permutation with things not sub­ject to wit or fraud.

The regulating of Coine hath been left to the care of Princes, who are presumed to be ever the Fathers of the Common-VVealth. Upon their honours they are Debtors and VVarranties of Justice to the Subject in [...]hat behalf. They cannot, saith Bodin, Bodin. alter the price of the moneyes, to the prejudice of the Subjects, without incurring the reproach of Faux M [...]nnoyeurs. And therefore the Stories term Philip le Bell, for using it, Falsificateur de Moneta. Om­nino Monetae integritas debet queriubi vul­tus noster imprimitur, saith Theodoret the Gothe to his Mint-Master, Theoderet the Gothe. Quidnam erit tutum si in nostra peccetur Effigie? Princes must not suffer their Faces to warrant falshood.

Although I am not of opinion with Mir­ror des Justices, Mirror des Iustices. the antient book of our Common Law, that Le Roy ne poit sa Mony Empeirer ne amender sans l'assent de touts ses Counts, which was the greatest Councel of the Kingdome; yet can I not pass over the Goodness and Grace of money of [Page 289] our Kings: Edw. 1. & 3. (As Edward the 1. and the 3. Henry the 4. Hen. 4. & 5. and the 5. with others, who, out of that Rule of this Justice, Quod ad omnes spectat, ab omnibus debet approbari, have often advised with the people in Parlia­ment, both for the Allay, Weight, Num­ber of peeces, cut of Coynage and ex­change;) and must with infinite comfort acknowledge, the care and Justice now of my Good Master,, and your Lordships Wisdoms, that would not upon infor­mation of some few Officers of the Mint, before a free and careful debate, put in execution this Project, that I much (un­der your Honours Favour) suspect, would have taken away the Tenth part of every man's due debt, or Rent already reserved throughout the Realm, not sparing the King; which would have been little lesse then a Species of that which the Roman Stories call Tabulae novae, from whence very often seditions have sprung: As that of Marcus Gratidianus in Livie, who preten­ding in his Consulship, that the Currant mo­ney was wasted by use, called it in, and al­tered the Standard; which grew so heavy and grievous to the People, as the Author saith, because no man thereby knew certainly his Wealth, that it caused a Tu­mult.

In this last part, Profit. which is, the Dispro­fit this enseebling the coyn will bring both to his Majestie and the Common-Wealth, I must distinguish the Monies of [Page 290] Gold aud Silver, as they are Bullion or Commodities, and as they are measure: The one, the Extrinsick quality, which is at the King's pleasure, as all other mea­sures, to name; The other the Intrinsick quantity of pure metall, which is in the Merchant to value. As there the measure shall be either lessened or inlarged, so is the quantity of the Commodity that is to be exchanged. If then the King shall cut his shilling or pound nominal less then it was before, a lesse proportion of such Commodities as shall be exchanged for it must be received. It must then of force follow, that all things of necessity, as Victuall, Apparell, and the rest, as well as those of Pleasure, must be inhaunced. If then all men shall receive, in their shillings and pounds a lesse proportion of Silver and Cold then they did before this pro­jected Alteration, and pay for what they buy a rate inhaunced, it must cast upon all a double loss.

What the King will suffer by it in the Rents of his lands, is demonstrated e­nough by the alterations since the 18. of Edward the 3. when all the Revenue of the Crown came into the receipt Pondere & Numero, after five groats in the ounce; which since that time, by the severall changes of the Standard is come to five shillings, whereby the King hath lost two third parts of his just Revenue.

In his Customs, the best of rate being [Page 291] regulated by pounds and shillings, his Majesty must lose alike; And so in all and whatsoever monies that after this he shall receive.

The profit by this change in coynage, cannot be much, nor manent. In the other the loss lasting, and so large, that it reacheth to little less then yearly to a sixth part of his whole Revenue: for hereby in every pound tale of Gold there is nine ounces, one penny weight, and 19 grains loss, which is 25 l. in account, and in the 100 1. tale of Silver 59 ounces, which is 14 l. 17 s. more.

And as his Majestie shall undergoe all these losses hereafter in all his receipts; so shall he no less in many of his disburse­ments. The wages of his Souldiers must be rateably advanced as the money is de­creased. This Edward the third (as appea­reth by the account of the Wardrobe and Exchequor) as all the Kings after were enforced to do, as oft as they lessened the Standard of their monies. The prices of what shall be bought for his Ma [...]esties ser­vice, must in like proportion be inhaunced on him. And as his Majesty hath the greatest of Receipts and Issues, so must he of necessity taste the most, of loss by this device.

It will discourage a great proportion of the Trade in England, and so impair his Majesty's Customs. For that part (being not the least) that payeth upon trust and [Page 292] credit will be overthrown; for all men being doubtful of diminution here­by of their personal Estates, will call their moneys already out, and no man will part with that which is by him, upon such apparent loss as this must bring. What danger may befall the State by such a suddain stand of Trade, I cannot guess.

The monies of Gold and Silver former­ly coyned and abroad, being richer then these intended, will be made for the me part hereby Bullion, and so transported; which I conceive to be none of the least in­ducements that hath drawn so many Gold-Smiths to side this Project, that they may be thereby Factors for the strangers, who by the lowness of minting (being but 2 s. Silver the pound weight, and 4s. for Gold; whereas with us the one is 4. and the other 5 s.) may make that profit beyond-sea they cannot here, and so his Majesty's mint unset on work.

And as his Majesty shall lose apparently in the alteration of monies a 14. in all the Silver, and a 25. part in all the Gold he after shall receive; so shall the Nobili­ty, Gentry, and all other, in all their former setled Rents, Annuities, Pensions and loanes of money. The like will fall upon the Labourers and workmen in their S [...]tute-wages: and as their receipts are lessened hereby; so are their Issiues increa­sed, either by improving all prices. or [Page 293] disfurnishing the Market, which must ne­cessarily follow. For if in 5. Edwardi 6. 3. Mariae, and 4. Elizabethae, it appeareth by the Proclamations, that a rumor only of an alteration caused these Effects, punish­ing the Author of such reports with im­prisonment and pillory; it cannot be doubted but the projecting a change must be of far more consequence and danger to the State, and would be wished that the Actors and Authors of such disturbances in the Common-Wealth, at all times here­after might undergo a punishment propor­tionable.

It cannot beheld (I presume) an advice of best judgment that layeth the loss up­on our selves, and the gain upon our ene­mies: for who is like to be in this the greater Thriver? Is it not usual, that the Stranger that transporteth over monies for Bullion, our own Gold-Smiths that are their Brokers, and the Forreign Hedge­minters of the Netherlands (which terms them well) have a resh and full Trade by this abatement? And we cannot do the Spanish King (our greatest enemie) so great a favour as by this, who being the Lord of this Commodity by his W [...]st- Indies, we shall so advance them to our impoverish­ing; for it is not in the power of any State to raise the price of their own, but the value that their Neighbour Princes ac­ceptance sets upon them.

Experience hath taught us, that the [Page 294] enfeebling of coyn is but a shift for a while, as drink to one in a dropsy, to make him swell the more: But the State was never throughly cured, as we saw by Henry the eighths time and the late Queens, untill the coyn was made up again.

I cannot but then conclude (my honou­rable Lords) that if the proportion of Gold and Silver to each other be wrought to that parity, by the advice of Artists, that neither may be too rich for the other, that the mintage may be reduced to some proportion of Neighbour parts, and that the Issue of our Native Commodities may be brought to overburthen the entrance of the Forreign, we need not seek any way of shift, but shall again see our Trade to flou­rish, the Mint (as the pulse of the Com­mon-Wealth) again to beat, and our Ma­terials, by Industry, to be a mine of Gold and Silver to us, and the Honour, Justice and Profit of his Majestie (which we all wish and work for) supported.

The Answer of the Committees ap­pointed by your Lordships to the Proportion delivesed by some Offi­cers of the Mint, for inhauncing his Majestie's monies of Gold and Silver. 2. September 1626.
The first part. The Preamble.

VVE conceive that the Officers of the Mint are bound by Oath to dis­charge their several duties in their several places respectively. But we cannot con­ceive how they should stand tyed by oath to account to his Majesty and your Honors of the Intrinsick value of all Forreign coyns, and how they agree with the Stan­dard of the State (before they come to the Mint) for it is impossible and needless: In the one, for that all Forreign States do, for the most part, differ from us and our money infinitely amongst themselves: In the other; it being the proper care of the Merchants, who are presumed not to pur­chase that at a dearer rate then they may be allowed for the same in fine Gold and [Page 296] Silver in the coyn of England, within the charge of coynage. And therefore need­less.

To induce the necessity of the Proposi­tion, they produce two instances or ex­amples; The one from the Rex Doller, and the other from the Royal of Eight; where­in they have untruely informed your Ho­nours of the price and value in our monies, and our Trade of both of them. For whereas they say, that the Rex Doller weigh­eth 18. penny weight and 12. grains, and to be of the finest at the pound weight, 10. ounces, 10 pence weight, doth produce in exchange 5. s. 2. d. farthing of sterling monies. We do affirm that the same Dol­lar is 18. d. weight 18. grains, and in fine­ness 10. ounces 12. d, weight, equal to 4. s. 5.d.ob. of sterling monies, and is at this time in London at no higher price, which is short thereof by 13. grains and a half fine Silver upon every Dollar, being 2. d. sterling or thereabout, being the charge of coynage, with a small recompence to the Gold [...] Smith or Exchanger, to the pro­fit of England 3. s. 6. d. per Centum.

Whereas they do in their circumstance averr unto your Honours, that this Dollar runs in account of Trade amongst the Merchants as 5. s. 2. d. ob. English money: It is most false. For the Merchants and best experienced men protest the contrary, and that it pas [...]eth in exchange according to the Int [...]insick value onely 4 s. 5. d. ob. [Page 297] of the sterling money, or neer thereabouts, and not otherwise.

The second instance is in the Royall of Eight; affirming that it weigheth 17. pen­ny weight, 12. grains; and being but of the fineness of 11. ounces at the pound weight, doth pass in Exchange at 5 s. of our sterling moneys, whereby we lose 6.s. 7 d. in every pound weight. But having examined it by the best Artists, we find it to be 11. ounces, 2. d. weight fine, and in weight 17. penny weight, 12. grains; which doth equal 4. s. 4. d. ob. of our ster­ling monies, and passeth in London at that rate, and not otherwise, though holding more fine Silver by 12. grains and a half in every Royall of Eight, which is the charge of coynage, and a small overplus for the Gold-Smiths gain. And whereas they say, that the said Royall of Eight runs in account of Trade at 5 s. of his Majestie's now English money; the Merchants do all affirm the contrary, and that it passeth on­ly at 4 s. 4. ob. of the sterling monies, and no higher ordinarily.

And it must be strange (my honourable Lords) to believe that our Neighbours the Netherlanders, would give for a pound tale of our sterling Silver, by what name soe­ver it passeth, a greater quantity of their monies in the like intrinsick value by Exchange; Or that our Merchants would, knowing, give a greater for a less to them, [Page 298] except by way of usance. But the deceipt is herein only, that they continually va­rying their coyn, and crying it up at pleasure, may deceive us for a time, in too high a Reputation of pure Silver in it, up­on trust, then there is, untill a trial; and this, by no Alteration of our coyn, unless we should daily, as they make his Majestie's Standard uncertain, can be prevented, which being the measure of Lands, Rents and Commerce amongst our selves at home, would render all uncertain, and so of necessity destroy the use of money; and turn all to permutation of such things as were not subject to will or change.

And as they have mistaken the ground of their Proposition; so have they, upon a specious shew of some momentary and small benefit to his Majesty, reared up a vast and constant loss unto his Highness by this design, if once effected. For, as his Majesty hath the 1argest portion of any both in the entrances and issues; so should he by so enfeebling of his coyn, become the greatest loser.

There needs no other instance then those degrees of diminution from the 18. of Edwards, 3. 18. Edw. 3. to this day; at which time the Revenue of the Crown was paid after five Groats the ounce (which is now five shillings) which hath lost his Majesty two thirds of all his Revenue; and no less hath all the Nobility, Gentry, and other [Page 299] his Majestie's landed Subjects in proportion suffered. But since, to our great comfort; we heard your Honours the last day to lay a worthy blame upon the Mint-Masters, for that intended diminution of the Gold­coyn done by them without full warrant; by which we rest discharged of that fear: We will (according to our duties and your Honours command) deliver humbly our opinion concerning the reduction of the Silver money now currant to be pro­portionably equivalent to the Gold.

The English sterling Standard, which was no little honour to Edward the first, that setled it from an inconstant motion, and laid it a ground that all the States of Europe after complyed to bring in their ac­count, which was of Silver an 11 to one of Gold, the Kings of England for the most part since have constantly continued the same proportion: and Spain, since Ferdi­nand, who took from hence his Pattern, have held and hold unchangeably the same unto this day: but since with us, a late improvement of Gold hath broke that Rule, and cast a difference in our Silver of six shillings in the pound weight; we can­not but in all humility present our fear, that the framing, at this time of an equa­lity, except it were by reducing the Gold to the Silver, is not so safe and pro­fitable as is proposed by those of the Mint.

For whereas they pretend this, Our [Page 300] richness of our Silver will carry out what now remaineth: We conceive (under fa­vour) it will have no such effect, but clean contrary. For all the currant Silver now abroad hath been so culled by some Gold-Smiths, the same either turned into Bul­lion, and so transported, that that which now remaineth will hardly produce 65. s. in the pound weight one with another; and so not likely, for so little profit as now it goeth, to be transported. But if the pound sterling should be as they desire, cut into 70. s. 6 d. it must of necessity fol­low, that the new money will convert the old money (now currant) into Bullion; and so afford a Trade afresh for some ill Patriot Gold-Smiths, and others, who formerly have more endamaged the State by culling, then any others by clipping; the one but trading in pounds, the other in thousands; and therefore worthy of a greater punishment. And we cannnot but have just cause (my Lords) to fear that these bad members have been no idle in­struments, for their private benefit, to the publick detriment, of this new project, so much tending to enfeebling the sterling Standard:

We further (under your Lord ships fa­vours) conceive, that the raising of the Sil­ver to the Gold, will upon some suddain oc­casion beyond Sea, transport our Gold, and leave the State in scarcity of that, as now of Silver.

[Page 301] And to that Objection of the Proposers, That there is no Silver brought of late into the mint; The causes we conceive to be (besides the unusual quantities of late brought into the mint in Gold) one the overballasing of late of Trade; the other, the charge of coynage. For the first, it can­not, be but the late infection of this City was a let of exportation of our best com­modity, Cloth, made by that suspected in every place. To this may be added the vast sums of money which the necessary occasion of war called from his Majesty to the parts beyond the Seas, when we had least of Commodities to make even the bal­lance there. And lastly, dearth and scarcity of corn, which in time of plenty we ever found the best exchange to bring in silver. And therefore, since by Gods great Fa­vour the Plague is ended, and general Trade thereby restored, and more of Plen­ty this year, then hath been formerly these many years, of corn, we doubt not but if the Ports of Spain were now as free as they were of late, there would not prove hereafter any cause to complain of the want of Bullion in the State.

The second cause, that the mint re­mains unfurnished; will be the charge of coynage, raised in price so far above all other places, constraining each man to carry his Bullion where he may receive by coynage the less of loss. And therefore if it may please his Majesty to reduce the [Page 302] prices here to the Rates of other of our Neighbour Countreys, there will be no doubt but the Mint will beat as hereto­fore.

Questions to be proposed to the Mer­chants, Mint-Masters, and Gold-Smiths, Concerning the Alteration of the Silver Mo­nies.

1. VVHether the Englist monies now currant are not as dear as the Forreign of the Dollar and Reall of 8. in the intrinsick value in the usual ex­changes now made by the merchants be­yond-Seas?

2. Whether this advancing will not cause all the Silver-Bullion, that might be transported in mass or Forreign coyn, to be minted with the King's stamp beyond-sea, and so transported, and his Mint thereby set less on work then now?

3. Whether the advancing the Silver­coyn in England will not cause a trans­portation of most of that that is now currant to be minted in the Netherlands, and from them brought back again, where­by his Majestie's Mint will fail by the ex­ported benefit?

4. Whether the advancing the Silver coyn, if it produce the former effects, will not cause the Markets to be unfur­nished [Page 303] of present coyn to drive the ex­change, when most of the old will be used in Bullion.

5. Whether the higher we raise the Coyn at home, we make not thereby our Commodities beyond-sea the chea­per?

6. Whether the greatest profit by this enhauncing, will not grow to the ill mem­bers of the State, that have formerly cul­led the weightiest peeces, and sold them to the stranger-Merchants to be transpor­ted?

Certain General Rules collected concerning Money and Bullion, out of the late Consultation at Court.

GOld and Silver have a twofold esti­mation: in the Extrinsick, as they are monies, they are the Princes measures given to his people, and this is a Prerogative of Kings: In the Intrinsick they are Com­modities, valuing each other according to the Plenty or scarcity; and so all other Commodities by them; And that is the sole power of Trade.

The measures in a Kingdom ought to be constant: It is the Justice and Honour of the King: for if they be altered, all men at that instant are deceived in their precedent contracts, either for Lands or money, and the King most of all: for no [Page 304] man knoweth then, either what he hath or what he oweth.

This made the Lord Treasurer Burleigh in 73. 1573. when some Projectors had set on foot a matter of this nature, to tell them, that they were worthy to suffer death for attempting to put so great a dishonour on the Queen, and detriment and discontent upon the People. For, to alter this pub­lick measure, is to leave all the Markets of the Kingdome unfurnished; and what will be the mischief, the Proclamations of 5. Edwardi 6. 3. Mariae and 4. Elizabethae, will manifest; 5. Edw. 6. 3. Mariae. 4. Eliz. when but a Rumor of the like produced that effect so far, that be­sides the faith of the Princes to the contra­ry delivered in their Edicts, they were in­forced to cause the Magistrates in every Shire respectively to constrain the people to furnish the Markets to prevent a muti­ny.

To make this measure then, at this time short, is to raise all prizes, or to turn the money or measure now currant into disise or Bullion: for who will depart with any, when it is richer by seven in the hundred in the Mass, then the new mo­nies; and yet of no more value in the Mar­ket?

Hence of necessity, it must follow, that there will not in a long time be sufficient minted of the new to drive the exchange of the Kingdome, and so all Trade at one instant at a stand; and in the mean time [Page 306] the Markers unfurnished: Which how it may concern the quiet of the State, is wor­thy care.

And thus far as money is a measure.

Now, as it is a Commodity, it is respect­ed and valued by the intrinsick quality. And first the one metall to the other.

All commodities are prized by Plenty or scarsity, by dearness or cheapness, the one by the other: If then we desire our Silver to buy Gold, as it late hath done, we must let it be the cheaper, and less in proportion valued; and so contrary: for one equivalent proportion in both will bring in neither. We see the proof there­of by the unusual quantity of Gold brought lately to the Mint by reason of the price; for we rate it above all other Countries, and Gold may be bought too dear. To furnish then this way the mint with both, is altogether impossible.

And at this time it was apparently pro­ved, both by the best Artists and Merchants most acquainted with the Exchange, in both the examples of the Mint-masters, in the Rex Dollar and Reall of Eight, That Silver here is of equal value, and Gold above, with the forreign parts in the intrinsick; and that the fallacy presented to the Lords by the Mint-Masters, is only in the nomination or extrinsick quality.

But if we desire both, it is not raising of the value that doth it; but the ballasing of Trade: for buy we in more then we [Page 306] sell of other Commodities, be the money ne­ver so high prized, we must part with it to make the disproportion even: If we sell more then we buy, the contrary will follow:

And this is plain in Spain's necessities: For should that King advance to a double rate his Reall of 8. yet needing, by reason of the barrenness of his Countrey, more of Forreign Wares then he can countervail by Exchange with his own, he must part with his money, and gaineth no more by enhauncing his Coyn, but that he pay­eth a higher price for the Commodities he buyeth; if his work of raising be his own. But if we shall make improvement of Gold and Silver, being the staple Commodity of his State; we then advancing the price of his, abase to him our own Commodities.

To shape this Kingdom to the fashion of the Netherlanders, were to frame a Royal Monarch by a Society of Merchants. Their Countrey is a continual Fair, and so the price of Money must rise and fall to fit their occasions. We see this by raising the Exchange at Franckford and other places at the usual times of their Marts.

The frequent and daily change in the low Countries of their monies, is no such injustice to any there as it would be here. For being all either Mechanicks or Mer­chants, they can rate accordingly their labours or their wares, whether it be coyn or other Merchandise, to the present con­dition of their own money in Exchange.

[Page 307] And our English Merchants, to whose profession it properly belongs, do so, ac­cording to the just intrinsick value of their Forreign coyn, in all barter of Commo­dities, or exchange, except at Usance; Which we, that are ruled and tyed by the extrinsick measure of monies, in all our constant Reckonings add Annual bargains at home, cannot do.

And for us then to raise our coyn at this time to equal their proportions, were but to render our selves to a perpetual in­certainty: for they will raise upon us daily then again; which if we of course should follow, else receive no profit by this present change, we then destroy the Policy, Justice, Honour and Tranquility of our State at home for ever.

THE DANGER WHEREIN T …

THE DANGER WHEREIN THIS KINGDOME NOW STANDETH, AND THE REMEDY.

Written by Sir ROB.COTTON Knight and Baronet.

LONDON, Printed in the year 1651.

VALOUR ANATOMIZED IN …

VALOUR ANATOMIZED IN A FANCIE.

By Sir PHILIP SIDNEY. 1581.

LONDON, Printed in the year 1672.

VALOUR ANATOMIZED IN A FANCIE.

VAlour towards Men, is an Emblem of Ability; towards Women, a Good quality signify­ing a better. Nothing draws a Woman like to it. Nothing is more behoveful for that Sex: for from it they receive Protection, and in a free way too, without any danger. Nothing makes a shorter cut to obtaining: for a Man of Arms is alwayes void of Ceremony, which is the Wall that stands betwixt Piramus and Thisby, that is Man, and Woman: For there is no Pride in Women but that which rebounds from our own Baseness (as Cowards grow Valiant upon those that are more Cowards) So that only by our pale asking we teach them to deny; and by our shamefac'dness we put them in mind to be modest. Whereas indeed it is cunning Rhetorick to per­swade the hearers that they are that al­ready which the world would have them [Page 324] to be. This kind of Bashfulness is far from Men of valourous disposition, and especially from Souldiers: for such are ever men (without doubt) forward and Confident, losing no time left they should lose Opportunity, which is the best Factor for a Lover. And because they know Women are given to dissemble, they will never believe them when they deny. Certainly before this age of Wit and wearing Black, brake in upon us, there was no way known to win a Lady, but by Tilting, Turneying, and Riding to seek Adventures through dangerous Forrests: In which time these slender Striplings with little Legs were held but of Strength enough to marry their Wid­dows. And even in our days, there can be given no reason of the inundation of Servingmen upon their Mistresses, but onely that usually they carry their Masters Weapons, and their Valour. To be ac­counted handsome, just, learned, and well favoured, all this carries no danger with it. But it is better to be admitted to the title of Valiant acts: at least that im­ports the venturing of Mortality; and all Women delight to hold him safe in their Arms who hath escaped thither through many dangers. To speak 2t once; Man hath a priviledge in Valour. In Cloaths and good Faces we do but imitate Wo­men; and many of that Sex will not think much (as far as an answer goes) [Page 325] to dissemble Wit too. So then these neat Youths, these Women in Mens Apparell, are too near a Woman to be beloved of her; they be both of a Trade, but he of grim aspect, and such a one a Lass dares take, and will desire hint for Newness and Variety. A Scar in a Mans face, is the same that a Mole is in a Womans, and a Mole in a Womans is a jewel set in White, to make it seem more white. So a Scar in a Man is a mark of honour, and no blemish, for 'tis a Scar and a blemish in a Souldier to be without one. Now as for all things else which are to procu [...]e love, as a good Face, Wit, Cloaths, or a good Body; each of them (I must needs say) works somewhat for want of a better; that is, if Valour corri [...]e not therewith. A good Face a [...]aileth no­thing; if it be on a Coward that is bash­ful, the utmost of it is to be kist; which rather increaseth than quen [...]beth Appe­tite. He that sendeth her Gifts, sends her word also, that he is a Man of small Gifts otherwise; for wooing by signs and tokens, implies the Author dumb. And if Ovid (who writ the Law of Love) were alive, as he is extant, and would allow it as a good diversity; then Gifts should be sent as Gratuities; not as Bribes; and Wit would rather get pro­mise, than Love. Wit is not to be seen, and no Woman takes advice of any in her Loving, but of her own Eyes, or her [Page 326] Wayting Woman: nay, which is worse, Wit is net to be felt, and so no good Bedfellow. Wit applyed to a Woman makes her dissolve her simperings, and discover her Teeth with Laughter; and this is surely a purge for Love: for the beginning and original of Love is a kind of foolish Melancholly. As for the Man that makes his Taylor his Bawde, and hopes to inveagle his Love with such a coloured Suit, surely the same man deeply hazzards the losse of her Favour upon every Change of his Cloaths. So likewise the other that Courts her silent­ly with a good Body, let me tell him that his Cloaths stand alwayes betwixt his Mistriss eyes and him. The Comliness of Cloaths depends upon the Comliness of the Body, and so both upon Opinion. She that hath been seduced by Apparell, let me give her to wit, that men al­ways put off their Cloaths before they go to bed; and let her that hath been inamoured of her Servants Body, under­stand, that if she saw him in a skin of Cloath (that is, in a suit made to the pattern of his body) she would discern slender cause to Love him ever after. There are no Cloaths fit so well in a Wo­mans eye, as a Suit of Steel, though not of the fashion: and no man so soon sur­priseth a Womans Affections, as he that is the subject of Whisperings, and hath alwayes some 20 stories of his own At­chievements [Page 327] depending upon him Mi­stake me not, I understand not by Valour one that never fights but When he is backt by Drink or Anger, or hissed on by Beholders; nor one that is desperate, nor one that takes away a Servingmans Weapons, when perhaps they cost him his quarters wages; nor one that wears a privy Coat of defence, and therein is Confident: for then such as make Buck­lers would be accounted the very scum of the Common-wealth. I intend one of an even Resolution, grounded upon Reason, which is alwayes even; having his Power restrained by the Law of not doing Wrong.

Philip Sidney.

Wooing-stuff.

FAint Amorist: what, do'st thou think
To taste Loves Honey, and not drink
One dram of Gall? or to devour
A world of sweet, and taste no sour?
Do'st thou ever think to enter
Th' Elisian fields that dar [...]st not venture
In Charons Barge? a Lovers mind
Must use to sayle with every wind.
[Page 328] He that loves, and fears to try,
Learns his Mistris to deny.
Doth she chide thee? 'tis to shew it,
That thy Coldness makes her do it;
Is she silent? is she mute?
Silence fully grants thy Sute;
Doth she pout, and leave the room?
Then she goes to bid thee come;
Is she sick? why then be sure,
She invites thee to the cure;
Doth she cross thy sute with No?
Tush, she loves to hear the woo;
Doth she call the faith of man
In question? Nay, 'uds-foot, she loves thee than;
And if e're she make a blot.
She's lost, if that thou hit'st her not.
He that after ten denials,
Dares attempt no farther tryals,
Hath no warrant to acquire
The Dainties of his Chaste desire.
Philip Sidney.

Sir Francis Walsingham' s ANATOMIZING Of

  • Honesty,
  • Ambition, and
  • Fortitude.

Written in the year 1590.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672.

Sir Francis Walsinghams ANATOMIZING Of • Honesty, , • Ambition, and , and • Fortitude. 

WHat it is directly that I wil write, I know not: For, as my thoughts have ne­ver dwelt long upon one thing; and so my Mind hath been filled with the Imagination of things of a different na­ture: So there is a necessity that this Of­spring of so un-composed a Parent must be mishaped, answerable to the Original from whence it is derived. Somewhat I am resolved to write, of some Virtues, and some Vi [...]es, and some indifferent things. For, knowing that a Mans life is a perpetual Action, which every moment is under one of these three heads; my Imaginations have ever chiefly tended to find cut the Natures of these things, that I might, (as much as my Frailty (the inseperable com­panion of Mans nature) would give me [Page 332] leave) wear out this Garment of my Bo­dy, with as little Inconvenience to my Soul as I could, and play this Game of Conversation (in which every one (as long as he lives) makes one) with the repu­tation of a fair Gamester, rather than of a cunning one.

And first I will write of Honesty; not in its general sense (in which it compre­hends all Moral Vertues) but in that parti­cular in which (according to our phrase) it denominates an Honest man.

Honesty is a quiet passing over the days of a mans life, without doing Injury to ano­ther man.

There is required in an Honest man, not so much to do every thing as he would be done unto, as to forbear any thing that he would not be content to suffer; For the Essence of Honesty consists in forbear­ing to do ill: And to good Acts is a proper Passion, and no Essential part of Honesty. As Chastity is the Honesty of Women, so Honesty is the Chastity of Man. Either of them once impaired is irrecoverable. For a Woman that hath lost her Maidenhead, may as easily recover it, as a Man that hath once taken liberty of being a Knave can be restored to the ti­tle of an Honest Man. For Honesty doth not consist in the doing of one, or one thousand Acts never so well; but in spin­ning on the delicate Threds of Life, though not exceeding Fine, yet free from Bracks, [Page 333] and Staines. We do not call him an Ho­nest man, but a Wotthy man, that doth brave eminent Acts: But we give him the title of an Honest man, of whom no man can truly report any ill.

The most eminent part of Honesty is Truth: not in VVords (though that be ne­cessarily required) but in the Course of his Life; in his Profession of Friendship; in his Promise of Rewards and Benefits to those that depend upon him; and grate­ful acknowledging those good turns that he receives from any man.

The greatest Opposite to Honesty is Falshood; and as that is commonly wait­ed upon with Cunning and Dissimulation, so is Honesty with Discretion and Assu­rance.

It is true, that Custome makes some ap­parently false; some through Impudence, and too much use; and other some for want of Discretion, which if they had had, should have been employed in Co­vering it. And there be some, in whom (though it be impossible Honesty should be a Fault in Society) their indiscreet ma­naging of it, makes it holden for a thing that's meerly a Vice, a wonderful trouble­some Companion.

An Honest man is as neer an Aptitude to become a Friend, as Gold is to become Coyne: he will melt with good Offices well done, and will easily take the stampe of true Friendship; and having once taken [Page 334] it, though it may be bended and bruised, yet still will keep his stamp clean without Rust or Canker, and is not ashamed to be enclosed in it, but is contented to have all his glory seen through it onely.

It is of it self a Competent Estate of Vertue, able to supply all necessary parts of it to a Mans own particular, and a Man that is born to it, may raise himself to an eminency in all Vertues; though of it self it will not furnish a Man with the abilities of doing any glorious thing. It is pity that Honesty should be abstract­ed from the lustre of all other Vertues. But if there be such an Honesty, the fit­test Seat for it is the Countrey, where there will be little need of any greater Ability, and it will be least subject to Cor­ruption. And therefore, since it is the Foundation upon which a man may build that part of his life which respects Conver­sation, he that builds upon it (let his acti­ons be never so mean) shall be sure of a good, though not of a great Reputa­tion; whereas letting it perish, let the rest of the Building of his life be never so eminent, it will serve but to make the ruine of his good Name more notori­ous.

Of Ambition.

LOve, Honour, and Praise are the grea­test Blessings of this world: All other Contents reflect primarily upon the Body: and please the Soul onely because they please some one or more Senses. But those therefore only delight the Senses, because the Soul by discourse was first pleased with them. For in it self there is more Musick in a railing Song, thrust up­on a good Ayre, than in the confused Ap­plause of the multitude. But because the Soul, by Discourse, finds this Clamor to be an argument of the estimation which those that so Commend it have of it, it likes it self better, and rejoyceth the more init self, because it sees other men va­lue it. For there are two wayes of pro­ving; the one by Reason, and the other by Witness; but the more excellent Proof is that of Reason: For he that can by Reason prove any thing to me makes his knowledge mine, because by the same Reason I am able to prove it to another: But if 20. men should swear to me they saw such a thing, which before I did not believe; it is true, I should alter mine o­pinion, not because there appeared any greater likelihood of the thing; but be­cause it was unlikely that so many men should lie: And if I should go about to make others of the fame opinion, I could [Page 336] not doe it, by telling them I knew it, or I saw it; but all I could say, were, I did be­lieve it; because such and such men told me they saw it. So in the Comfort a man takes of himself (which grows out of the con­sideration of how much it self deserves to be beloved) a vertuous wise fellow will take enough Comfort and Joy in himself (though by Misfortune he is troubled to carry about with him the worlds Ill Opi­nion) by discoursing that he is free from those Slanders that are laid upon him, and that he hath those Sufficiencies and Venues which others deny. And on the contrary side, he without deser­ving it (having the good Fortune to be esteemed and honoured) will easily be drawn to have a good Opinion of himself; as, out of Modesty, submitting his own Reason to the testimony of ma­ny witnesses.

Ambition in it self is no Fault; but the most natural Commendation of the Soul, as Beautie is of the Bodie: It is in Men, as Beauty is in Women. For, as to be naturally exceeding handsome, is the greatest Commendation of that Sex, and that for which they most desire to be Commended; so that Ambiti­on by which Men desire Honour the na­tural way (which consists in doing honou­rable and good Acts) is the root of the most perfect Commendation that a Morall Man is capable of.

[Page 337] Those onely offend in their Ambition, who out of the earthliness of their minds dare not aspire to that true Honor which is the estimation of a man, being as it were the Temple wherein Vertue is inshrin'd; And therefore settle their minds onely upon attaining Titles and Power; which at the first were, or at least should be the Mark whereby to distinguish men accord­ing to the Rate of their Vertues and suffici­encies; but are now onely Arguments of a Mans good Fortune, and effects of the Princes favour.

It is true that Power is a brave addition to a worthy Man; but a Fool, or a Knave that is powerful, hath (according to the degree of his Power) just that advantage of a vertuous prudent man, that Adam, before he fell, had of the Angels that stood; an Ability to do more ill.

As for Titles (which at first were the marks of Power; and the Rewards of Vertue) they are now (according to their name) but like the Titles of Books, which (for the most part) the more glori­ous things they promise, let a Man nar­rowly peruse them over, the less substance he shall find in them. And the wooden Lord is like the Logg that Jupiter gave the Frogs to be their King; it makes a great noise; it prepares an expectation of great matters, but when they once perceived it unactive, and senlesly lying still, the wiser sort of Frogs began to de­spise [Page 338] it, and (in fine) every young Frog­ling presumed to leap up and down upon it.

Some few there are, who (least the spe­cies of our antient worthy Lords should be lost) do preserve in themselves the will and desire, since they want the means, to do brave and worthy Acts. And there­fore I say, let a Man by doing worthy Acts deserve honour, and though he do not attain it, yet he is much a happier man than he that gets it without desert. For such a man is before hand with Repu­tation; and the world still owes him that honour with his deserts cry for, and it hath not paid; VVhereas that man that hath a great Reputation, without deserving it, is behind-hand with the world; and his honour is but lent, not paid; And when the world comes to take accompt of its Applause, and finds his Title of Me­rit (by which he pretends to it) weak and broken, it will recall it's Approbation, and leave him by so much the more a noto­rious Bankrupt in his good Name, by how much the Estimation of his Wealth that way was the greater.

Of Fortitude.

FOr a Man to be compleatly happy there is required the Perfection of all Morall Virtues; And yet this is not e­nough; [Page 339] For, Virtues do rather banish Misfortunes, and but shew us Joy, than establish Felicity: VVhich is not onely an utter Alienation from all Affliction, but an absolute Fulness of Joy. And since the Soul of Man is infinitely more excellent than any thing else it can meet withal in this VVorld, nothing upon Earth can satisfie it, but in the enjoy­ing of the greatest Abundance of all de­lights that the most nimble witted Man can frame to himself; For that his Soul will still have a further Desire, as unsa­tisfied with that it enjoyes. (Therefore the Perfection of Happiness consists in the Love of God; which is onely able to fill up all the Corners of the Soul with most perfect Joy; and consequently to fix all its desires upon those Celestial Joyes that shall never be taken from it. But this, as it cannot be obtained by Dis­course, but by unfeigned Prayer, and the Assistance and Illumination of Gods Grace; So is it not my purpose to prick at it. And for that part of Felicity which is attained to by moral Virtue, I find that every Virtue gives a Man Perfecti­on in some kind, and a degree of Felici­ty too: viz.

Honesty, gives a Man a good Report;

Justice, Estimation and Authority;

Prudence, Respect and Confidence;

Courtesie, and Liberality, Affection, and a kind of Dominion over other Men.

[Page 340] Temperance, Healthy.

Fortitude, a quiet Mind, not to be moved by any Adversity, and a Confidence not to be Circumvented by any danger.

So that all other Virtues give a Man but an outward Happiness, as receiving their Reward from others; onely Temperance doth pretend to make the Body a Stranger to Pain, both in taking from it the Oc­casion of Diseases, and making the out­ward Inconveniences of VVant, as Hun­ger and Cold, if not delightful, at least suffareble.

Fr. Walsingham.
A Brief DISCOURSE Co …

A Brief DISCOURSE Concerning the Power of the PEERES AND COMMONS OF PARLIAMENT In point of JUDICATURE.

Written by Sir Robert Cotton, at the request of a Peer of this REALM.

LONDON: Printed in the Year 1672.

A Brief DISCOURSE Concerning the POWER Of the PEERS, &c.

SIR, To give you as short an accompt of your de­sire as I can, I must crave leave, to lay you, as a ground, the frame or first model of this State.

When, after the Period of the Saxon time Harold had lifted himself into the Royal Seat, the great Men, to whom but lately he was no more than equal either in fortune or power, disdaining this Act of Arrogancy, called in William, then Duke of Normandy, a Prince more active than any in these Western Parts, and re­nowned for many Victories he had for­tunately atchieved against the French [Page 344] King, then the most potent Monarch of Eu­rope.

This Duke led along with him to this work of Glory, many of the younger Sons of the best Families of Normandy, Picardy, and Flanders, who as Under­takers, accompanied the Undertak­ing of this fortunate Man. The Usur­per slain, and the Crown by War gain­ed; To secure Certain to his Posterity what he had so suddenly gotten, he sha­red out his purchase, retaining in each County a portion to support the Dignity Soveraign, which was stiled Domenia Regni, now the antient Demeans; And assigning to others his Adventurers such portions as suited to their quality and ex­pence, retaining to himself dependency of their personal service (except such Lands as in free Alms, were the portion of the Church) these were stiled Barones Regis, the Kings immediate Free-hol­ders; for the word Baro imported then no more.

As the King to these, so these to their followers sub-divided part of their shares into Knights Fees; and their Tenants were called Barones Comites, or the like; for we find, as the Kings write in their Writs, Baronibus suis & Francois & An­glois; the Soveraigns Gifts, for the most part, extending to whole Counties or Hundreds, an Earl being Lord of the one, and a Baron of the inferiour Donations [Page 345] to Lords of Townships or Mannors. AS thus the Land, so was all course of Judi­cature divided; even from the meanest to the highest portion, each several had his Court of Law, preserving still the man­ner of our Ancestors the Saxons, who jura per pagos reddebant; and these are still termed Court Barons, or the Freeholders Court, twelve usually in number, who with the Thame or chief Lord were Judges. The Hundred was next; where the Hun­dredus or Aldermanus, Lord of the Hun­dred, with the chief Lords of each Town­ship within their limits judged.

Gods People observed this form in the publique, Centuriones & Decani judica­bant plebem onni tempore. The County or generale placitum was the next; This was, so to supply the defect, or remedy the Corruption of the Inferiour, Vbi Cu­riae Dominarum probantur defecisse, perti­nent ad Vicecomitem Provinciarum. The Judges here were Comitos, Vicecomites, & Barones Comitatus qui liberas in eo terras h [...] ­bent.

The last and supream, and proper to our question, was Gener ale Placitum apud London, Vniversalis Synodus, in Charters of the Conqueror, Capitalis Curia, by Glanvile. Lib. Ep. Glan­vile. Magnum & Commune consilium coram Rege & Magnatibus suis. In the Rolls of Hen. the third, it is not stative, but summoned by Proclamation; Edi­citur generale placitum apud London, [Page 346] saith the Book of Abingdon; whither e­piscopi, Duces, Principes, Satrapae, Rectores, & Causidici ex omni parte confluxerunt ad istan Curiam, saith Glanville, Causes were referred propter aliquam dubitatio­nem quae emergit in Conitatu, cum Comi­tatus nescit dijudicare. Thus did Ethel­weld Bishop of Winton transfer his Suit against Leoftine from the County, [...]d ge­nerale placitum, E [...]b Sancti Etheldredi Epise. in the time of King E­thildred: Queen Edgin against Goda from the County appealed to King Ethel­dred at London, Congregatis principibus & sapientibus Aogliae. A Suit between the Bishops of Winton and Durham, in the time of Saint Edward, Coram Epis­copis & Principibus Regni in praesfentia Re­gis, ventilata & finita. In the 10. year of the Conqueror, Episcopi, Comites, & Barones Regia potestate e diversis Pro­vinciis ad universalem Synodum pro causis audiendis & tractandis convocati, saith the Book of Westminster, and this conti­nued all along in the succeeding Kings Reigns until towards the end of Henry the third.

As this great Court or Councel con­sisting of the King and Barons, ruled the great affairs of State, and controlled all inferiour Courts, so were there certain Officers, whose transcendent power seemed to be set to bound in the executi­on of Princes Wills; as the Steward, Constable, and Marshal, fixed upon [Page 347] Families in Fee for many Ages: They as Tribunes of the People, or Ephori a­mongst the Athenians, grown by an unmannerly Carriage, fearful to Mo­narchy, fell at the Feet and mercy of the King, when the daring Earl of Leicester was slain at Eversham. This Chance, and the dear experience Henry the third himself had made at the Parliament at Oxford in the 40. year of his Reign, and the memory of the many streights his Fa­ther was driven unto, especially at Runny­mead near Stanes, brought this King wise­ly to begin what his Successors fortunate­ly finished, in lessening the strength and power of his great Lords. And this was wrought by searching into the Regality they had usurped over their peculiar Sove­raigns (whereby they were (as the Book at St. Albans tearmeth them) Quot Domi­ni tot Tyranni) and by weakening that hand of power which they carried in the Parliaments, by commanding the service of many Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses to that great Councel. Now began the frequent sending of Writs to the Com­mons, their assents not only used in Mo­ney, Charge, and making Laws (for be­fore all Ordinances passed by the King and Peers) but their consent in Judgements of all natures, whether Civil or Criminal. In proof whereof I will produce some few succeeding Presidents out of Record.

[Page 348] When Adomar that proud Prelate of Winchester, Eliber Sancti Albans fol. 20 [...] Anno 44, [...]. 3. the Kings half Brother, had grieved the State with his daring power, he was exised by joynt sentence of the King, the Lords, and Commons; and this appeareth expresly by the Letter sent by Pope Alexander the fourth expostu­lating a revocation of him from Ba­nishment, because he was a Church­man, and so not subject to Lay Censures. In this, the Answer is, Si Dominus Rex & Regni majores hoc vellent, meaning his revocation, Communitas tamen ipsius ingressum in Angliam jam nullatenus su­stineret. The Peers subsign this Answer with their names, and Petrus de Mont­ford vice totius Communitatis, as Speak­er or Proctor of the Commons; For by this stile Sir J. Tiptoft Prolocutor affirmeth under his Arms the Deed of en­taile of the Crown by King Henry 4. Ch [...]rtaorig. sub [...]i,ill Ann. 8. H. 4. apud Rob. Cotton in the 8. year of his Reign, for all the Com­mons.

The Banishment of the two Spencers in 15. E. 2. Praelati Comites & Barones & les autres Peeres de la terre & Commons de Roialme, Rot. Parl. am.o 15 E.2. give Consent and Sentence to the Revocation and Reversement of the former Sentence; the Lords and Com­mons accord, Rot Parl.anno 16. E.2. and so it is expressed in the Roll.

In the first of Edward the third, Rot. Parlanno 1. E. 3. n. 11. when Elizabeth the Widdow of Sir John de Burgo Complained in Parliament, that [Page 349] Hugh Spencer the younger, Robert Bal­dock, and William Cliffe his Instruments, had by duress forced her to make a writ­ing to the King, whereby she was dis­poiled of all her inheritance, Sentence was given for her in these words. Pur ceo que avis est al Evesques Counts & Ba­rones & autres Grandes & a tout Cominalte de la terre, que le dit escript est fait contre ley, & tout manere de raison si fuist le dit escript per agard delparliam. dampue elloques al livre ala dit Eliz.

In the 4th. of Edward 3. it appears by a Letter to the Pope, that to the Sen­tence given against the Earl of Kent, the Commons were parties as well as the Lords and Peers; for, the King directed their proceedings in these words; Comitibus, Magnatibus, Baronibus, & aliis de Com­munitate dicti Regni as Parliamentum illud congregates iu [...]unximus, ut super his discernerent & judicarent quod ratione & justitiae conveniret, habere prae oculis, solum Deum qui cum concordi & unae­nimi sementia tanquam reum criminis laesoe majestatis morti abjudicarent ejus sen­tentia, &c.

When in the 50th. Parl. Anno [...] Ed: 3. of E. 3. the Lords had pronounced the Sentence against Ri­chard Lyons. otherwise than the Commons agreed; they appealed to the King, and had redress, and the Sentence entred to their desires.

When in the first year of R. 2. Parl. 1. R. 2. n. 38, 39. Willi­am [Page 350] Weston, and John Jennings were arraign­ed in Parliament, for surrendring cer­tain Forts of the Kings, the Commons were parties to the Sentence against them giv­en, as appeareth by a Memorandum annex­ed to that Record.

In I H. 4. although the Commons re­fer by protestation, Parl. 1. H. 4. the pronouncing the sentence of deposition against King Richard the Second, unto the Lords, yet are they equally interessed in it, as appeareth by the Record, for there are made Proctors or Commissioners for the whole Parlia­ment, one Bishop, one Earl, one Abbot, one Barronet, and Two Knights, Gray and Erpingham, for the Commons; and to infer, that because the Lords pronounced the sentence the point of Judgment should be only theirs, were as absurd, as to conclude that no autho­rity was left in any other Commissioner of Oyer and Terminer than in the per­son of that man solely that speaketh the Sentence.

In the Second of Hen. Ho [...]. Parl. An. [...]. H. 5. the 5th the Peti­tions of the Commons importeth no less than a Right they had to act and assent to all things in Parliament; and so it is Answered by the King. And had not the Journal Roll of the Higher House been left▪ to the sole entry of the Clerk of the upper house, who, either out of neglect to observe due form, or out of purpose to obscure the Commons right, [Page 351] and to flatter the power of those he im­mediately served, there would have bin frequent examples of all times to clear this doubt, and to preserve a just Interest to the Commonwealth. And how conveniently it suits with Monarchy to maintain this form, lest others of that well-framed body, knit tinder one head, should swell too great and monstrous, it may be easily thought. For, Monarchy again may sooner groan under the weight of an Aristocracy, as it once did, then under a Democracy, which it never yet either felt or feared.

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