❧ AN ANSVVER TO THE CALVMNIOVS LETTER AND ERroneous propositiouns of an apostat named M. Io. Hammiltoun Composed by M. VVILLIAM FOVLER
¶I am not ashamed of the Euangel of IESVS CHRIST For it is the power of God vnto Saluatioun, to euerie ane that beleueth.
¶Imprentit at Edinburgh be Robert Lekprewick dwelling at the Netherbow. 1581.
❧ TO THE RICHT HONORABLE FRANCES Earle BOTHVEL, Lord MA [...]L [...], CHRYCHTOVN LIDDISDAILL &c. and grit Admiral of Scotland. M. WILLIAMS FOVLER wissheth incres of honour & perpetuall felicitie.
IT is not without good reasoun, nather contrair commendable example RICHT HONORABLE, that I presume to dedicat this present treatise, being the first fruitis of my ingyne vnto ȝour Lordschip. For this hes bene ane daylie practise and an old custome at all tymes be thame obseruit, quha with grit trauel & eirnest diligence hes profited in letters: that quhensoeuer at any tyme thay ar myndit to commit their laubours vnto licht, they do harbour them vnder the countenāce & couer thē vnder the autority of sum noble personage. mouit theirto be dyuers considerations, pairtly to procure sum defence and protectioun to thair works: Pairtly to purches sum commendatioun to them selfis.
This being throughly weyit and dewly be me considerit I haue takin the boldnes through example, by the dedicatioun heirof to acknawledge ȝour Lordschip as an maist worthie patroun of my good and Godly meanings.
And as I am encouragit sumquhat be example, so I am not a lytill heirto inforcit by ressoun. For seing my self to be wholie addictit vnto ȝour Lordship, al y t then quhilk ather I am willing to accomplisch or able to performe, dois iustlie appertene ȝow. My dewtie crauis na les althoght ȝour commendable vertewis deserueth mair, quhilks if I war of any habilitie to frame them so decently by toung, as ȝour Lordschip practises them commendablie be work, I wald think my selfe contentit in my concait. Bot sa it is, that I rather confesse my imbecillitie heirin by schamefast silence, then to impair ȝour Lordschippis praises by scarcitie of words. Thairfoir leuand the rehearsel of thais vertewis quhairwith ȝour Lordship is adornit [Page] to be decorit with gritter eloquence, I will not cease continually to meruell at thame quhilkis now I can not sufficiently commend.
My houpe mekill ineressis that thir my laubours salbe mair freindly acceptit be ȝour Lordschip, then any wayis disdainfully misly kit. For hauing vnderstād baith be ȝour Lordschips letters, and be the report of vther gentlemen, quhat grit remembrance ȝow haue dayly of me, conioynit with a singuler fauour and a maist eirnist loue: of the quhilk I haue na small assurance, I may be certen, that ȝour Lordschip will als courteously raceaue this present (being the significatioun of my guid mind & plege of my effectionat seruice) as I offer it willinglie▪ And so vpoun the consideratioun of my dewtie, and vpon the considence of ȝour Lordschips accustomit courtesie, I haue takin the boldnes to decore this treatise with ȝour Lordschips noble Name. This leauing to trouble ȝour Lordschip any longer, I cōmit ȝow to God, who send ȝow a goodly encrease in vertow & a prosperous returne to ȝour countrie.
¶THE PREFACE TO THE READER
Being compelled to leaue france, be y e cruel persuit of papists after my arryuing to this Countrey, thair did cum into my hāds an letter derected to our Ministers, replenished w t calūnies quhilk quhan thay had perused, thay thocht it expedient that I suld answer thairto, for that the argument of that letter did concerne my selfe. I not willing to deny thair requeist, quhom in euerie way I suld reuerence: and being mair cairfull to satisfie thair desire, then affrayit of vther menis reports, haue vnder takin that quhilk I haue done.
Bot that ȝow may vnderstand with quhat ordour we haue procedit in this apologie. Ȝe sall knaw that we haue in his calumnious letter sum things as being maist false, suppressit with silēce: vther things as hauing sum probabilitie, bot ȝit na treuth we haue so confuted y t nothing remanis quhairin this Godles Apostat may iustifie him selfe against me, or falslie alledge for farder defence. And seing that with his calumnious letter thair ar certen erroneous propositions conioynit. I haue refellit thē be this method. In placing first his propositioun, to the quhilk derectly I oppone a contrair plat, thairefter I do come to the probations of his propositions, quhilks are ather for the maist pairt impertinently brocht furth of the scripteurs, or falsly wrastit out of the docteurs Lykewayis I haue adducit the citation of the autorities as he hes placit them, that his errour & ignorance may the mair appeir. In end I conclude confirming my awin plat.
Now thairfor freindly Reader I beseik ȝow effecteously that ȝe wald not miscontrew my guid mening nor mislyke my labours heirin, bot to accept them in guid pairt. I craue for my dilygence bot a freindlie acceptance of ȝour courtesy ȝe can geue me na lesse.
I confes in deid y t an Scoller of tender ȝeirs, of waik discretiō of raw iudgemnt, of small countenance, and litil vnderstanding can not pyke mekill praise for his trauel.
Bot gud mettels ar not to be misly kit, thocht they be takin out [Page] from the dustie earth. The things quhilks I haue weill spokkin ar not to be reiectit althocht I want an exteriour grauite. If any for my newnes thinks worser of me thē I was willīg to deserue & if yair be sum y t for my youth wil contem me, & ȝit thay not being ignorant that nemo repente summus extitit. I am content (thay being abusit ather by malice in detracting, or by lake of discretioun in discerning) to abyde thair censeur. Bot as manye things cums to passe contrair the houp and beyond the expectatioun of man, so it may happin heirin against my feare. My aduersar steared vp with enragit affectioun, & be the malicious mynds of vthers, thocht to bereaue me of my lyf, bot prased be God the successe was better. Through his calumnious & maist sclanderous wryting, he purposed to haue drownit me in perpetual ignominie: Bot it hes fallin out vther ways. The mair yat his malice appeareth: my honour farder (Louit be the Lord) is aduancit. For as he that straik IASON on the stomak thin king to slay him, brak his impostume with the straik, quhairby he recouered his helth: euin sa it hes hapnit with my aduersare▪ His horrible cruelty & detestabil wickednes hes purchest me no small commt [...]datioun. ANTISTHENES sentence cums weil into mynd, for he said that al persons had ather great necessitie of good freinds or enuyous enemies: for freindis in admonishing, and enemies in blaming, ar the cause that men withdrawe them from vice. And suirlye in my awin persoun I haue found this prouerb trew, Virescit vulnere virtus. For had not the occasion bene offred be this apostat peraduenteur I had not profited sa veil in this studie, nor bene sa weill occupyit in this subiect, nather had I procurit sa grit praise of sum, as he is dishonorit of all. Bot I knawe y t he was desyrous that his fame micht be spred, and name knawin in doing euil. as HEROSTRATVS in burning the Temple of DIANA. And ȝit it may fair with him, as with TR [...]SIMA [...]HVS, baith to be put to shame & silence.
- PAge 1. lyne 22. grit grit greif, reid grit greif. ly. 29, is reid hes.
- Pa. 1. ly. 5. their. R ather page 2. lyne. 26. rote. reid Roote.
- Page. 6, ly. 3. in quhatsumeuer. reid in quhatsumeuer companie, Lyne 32. accomplices, reid complices.
- Pag. 8. ly. 35. amends, reid amends be word.
- Page, 10. ly. 16. preguant, reid pregnāt. ly. 17. thogh. R. through
- Pag. 13, ly. 35, assofiat, reid associat.
- Pag. 16, ly, 2. ignonie, reid ignominie.
- Page 1. lyn [...]. 9. fermo [...]s. reid sermons.
- Page 3. anticedent. reid antecedent.
- Page 7. ly. 23. benefeits, reid benefeit,
- Page 8. lyne 22. thir, reid this.
- Page 12. lyne 22. prositioun, reid propositioun.
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- Page 19. lyne 15. t [...]uds. reid tends. deuoaioun reid deuotioun.
- page 22. ly. 17. follouit, reid flouit. ly. 22 increditeurs, reid incredulus.
- Page 23. ly. 30. also laitly. reid absolutelie.
- Page 24. in the margen in his 13. quest, & 2. chap. ly. 32. we cannot be helpit. reid we may be helpit.
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- Page 28. ly. 5. veritie now, reid veritie.
- Pay. 29. ly. 7. apProbre, reid. opprobr [...] ¶ iiii,
❧ ANE ANSWER ❧ VNTO THE EPISTLE.
IT is a saying na les commoun then commonly prouit trew: he quha passes the bounds of schamefastnes, and brekes the borders of modestie, may euer afterwart laufully be impudēt. For the nature of vngodly men, be raschful temeritie and insupportabill audacitie, destitute of the feare of God, not retening in thair actions their honestie or iust measure, but willingly despysing reasoun, searches vitious extrimities, quhairby they endeuoir tha me selues not only to put to executioun be violent force, all vice and beastly crueltye, Quhilk ather yairto be peruerse mens counsal are persuadit, or be thair awin cankred effectionis preassit, not also fostering their foolishe foly with yair furious fantesies, employes yair haill power, trauel & diligence, calumniously to selander, & sclanderously to blaspheme partly thame, aganist quhome iniustly sic violent beastlines yai haif wrocht, partly vthers be ye lyke schameles impudencie to quhome sic outragious mischeif, & inhumane cruelty, iustly is displesant. quhilk of lait be example mair nor manifest is ratiseit, And in experience be an vngodlie apostat, an filthy & impure pest of mā confirmit. Sua it is (louing Reader) I being in Paris inhumanlie inuadit, & be this bouchour (with vthairs accumpaneit) cruelly persecut, quhisk vnto yame, quha did behald sic outragious dealing gaue ane large mater of sorrow: & to vthair godly men in Scotland, an ampill occasion of grit grit greif, quhairof freindly being admonishit, & be sum sharpely reprouit, despysing ye ane, & contemning ye vthair, reiecting all admonitions quhairby to repentāce he micht bene brocht, now laitly agane his euil wil not being changit, nor h [...] malicious mynd appaisit be a doggishe rage & enraged dispite, as for his last dispair geuin a fairweil to al godlines & honestie, nocht only my fame & honour (quhilk I micht sufferit with pacience) bot Gods seruants blasphemously is defamit, & his trew religioun sacrilegiously impugnit.
[Page]This euidentlie may apeir by his treatise in notabil act of apostasy & ye maist calumnious that euer was [...] ▪ the iniurious superscriptiō quhairof gaue me not samekil the occasioun of lauchter (being mair superstitious nor religious) then the contents yairof ministred vnto me the mater of meruel, quhilk men wald beleif, him for to haue it written be an ardent desyre and zele of veritie, then throuch ostentatioun or arrogancy, les nor his vitious life, & vnbridelit behauiour war mair knawin, nor his deuot affectiō manifest. Be ye quhilk proudly puft vp, & arrogantly inspyrit, mair aboundant he is in detr [...]cting nor in honoring: & in defaming mair copious, thē in deuly praysing. Althocht in it nathing he can craue, or iustly to him vendicat yairin That is his, iniuries, Lies, calumnies, periories, and dispytefull inuectiues being exceptit as (rafehe [...]ilars, Seditious doctrene, Vēnom of intoxecat breists, plattring lyis, reuthles Dogs, calūnious Impostures Foolisch, Mischeauous, dangerous Errors, impoysonit breastis, hideous trumpeters of Seditioun, affectionat ministers of Lyes, Rauing headis Abominabill, Damnabill, Detestabill, Condemnabill heresies, Theaues, Reuars, and Stealers) with vyair infinit blasphemous wordis almaist the hail contents of his treatise, vnwordy to be written, & vncumly to be rehearsit, gatherit out of the bordel, quhairin he euer maist hā tit, to defame Christis seruants, & to blaspheme his kirk. O iniquitie of tymes O corruptioun of maners! O shameles malice that passis measure! Are thir ye frutes of Philosophie? Is this rauing railing decent for an maister, quhais lyfe sould be ane example of modestie & grauitie, ȝit makes him selfe the mirrour of lyes, the Trumpet of calumnies, & ye rote of vanitie. shameles Foole, whair doth foly force thee yat thou sould be so immoderat in displaying filthely ye force of thy venomful toung? miserabil ar tha Discipillis (monstrous heid) quha by thee are reuled & instructed, for quhar may thay els learne of the yan yat quhilk yai heare? or how canst thou instruct yame verteously, quha fa vitiously dois lyue? bot quhair honesty can haue na suey: modestie can haue na strenth. This thy writing ye vmbre & shaddow of thy actionis is voyd of wit, and thy railing without res [...]un, yat gif be iudgement punishment sould be decernit, with torments rather thou art to be confoundit, then w t argumēts confuted. [Page] Treuth it is indeid that from all replying my [...] did mekil abhorre, willing to quenche ye remembrance of sa immoderit iniuries, be forgetfulnes, and to burie ye memorie of sa grit offences be obliuioun. ȝit les, nor throuch my silence, his lyes perhappis sould haue sic aduantage of ye treuth, yat, yat quhilk maliciously be writ and deade in effect be hes performit, as rycht sould be receauit. I am forced to enter in defence, to satesfie be iuste report thais quhais heartis are not preocupat be his false narratioun, nor myndes preuentit be his feinȝeid falshoode.
How hard & difficil a thing it is vnto yame, quha be ye singulare mercy of yair God, hes engrauft in yair harts, an detestatioun of erroneus doctrine, & superstitious idolatrie, quyetly, w tout dissembling grit cummer & perrelous danger, to remaine in Paris ye tresonabill treasons, ye bloody massacars, the vnnaturall slauchters, & horribill murders yair cōmittit wil testifie, & ma ages yan yis wil beir record. for Satan w t sic cruel rage, hes swa enragit & enflamit his seruantis aganist ye members of Christ, yat nayer yair vntowardenes can be assuagit by ye feare of Gods punishments, nor malicious mindes repressit, be his fearfull threatnings, nor yair wickednes coolit be his terribill iudgements, ȝea yair vngodlynes hes sa far increassit, yat ye hope of saluatioun can not alure yame from it, for sa grit hes bene yair vnbridelit feruēcie to pleis yair maister, & sa lytil yair thochtles cair to pleis our God. Sa vehement hes bene yair thrist efter ye blood of Christs people, and ȝit not quenchit: sa grit is yair drouth, but ȝit neuer slokned: seing yat dayly ye deuill mouis ye myndes of his awin to all horrible impietie, and ye harts of sic wood tygers to commit al wyld cruelty. Paris, Rouen, Tholouse, Orleane, Burdeaux w t vyair innumerabill Touns in France, may (allace) serue for ouercertane proofe in yis mater, & my selfe for a witnesse. Sua ye case is (gentill Reader) & so ye mater standeth.
That feruent zeale in professing Christs Euangel, & contemption of Idolatrie, quhair w t God of his mercy from my ȝoutheid endeued me, procurit aganis me ye enuy, & indignation of idolatrous Papists quha perceuing yat nather yair friuole arguments, nor alluring promeissis, micht peswade me to abiure Christes trewe religioun, and [Page] embrace yair feinȝeit fantasyes, & forgit inuentions, tooke at lenth counsall to follow yair accustomit course, and in place of christiane admonitioun to lat me fele sic stripes, as of their foirfathers the people of God rasauit of before, quha seikand the occasioun how vnder pretence of particularities they micht coulour thair cruelty, & couer thair hatred kendled against me for the cause of religion, The whisperings wherof not being vnto me secreit, nather the takins obscure, I auoidit warly, & from sic maters willingly absteanit, as might haue mouit thame to execute yair enterprise. quhairthrouch thair rage being for a space deserrit mair then degestit, at last an Hammiltoun (a modest man) be sum Scottis papeists cōmandit, & be others requeistit, following yair aduise to accomplish thair desire, & persewing his awin determinatioun to execute his tyranie, be thir monis fulfillit it.
To my Lord ARBROITH maister IOHNE HAY a Iesuist presented an buik composed be him contening certaine questions proponit to our ministers, I entring in my Lords Chalmer (quhairin also this apostat was present) raceauit of maister Iohne Hay another likwise, and sum of the articles thairof being disputed betuix vs, and be him mair querrelously discussit nor modestly rasonit, We fel after this prolixt disputatioun, into that article quhairby the autour of the Buik affermes the making of Images not to be contrair vnto the cōmand of God. my Lord (mouit be ane constant zele of religioun) replyit, that not onely it was derectly against the cōmand of God, but also the making of them was expresly contrair his Maiestie, he sophistically be a vaine distinctioun of representatioun & adoratioun, confuslie confounding altogether, eludit Gods cōmandiment. My Lord desiring me to ansuer: be a familiar argumēt I insistit in the contrair. that cumming from S. Germains port, I did sie blind men praying [...] reuerent prostratioun of thair bodeis, & discouerit headis vnto the Image thair placeit. And thairfoir bene inforcit freindlye to demand of him, I did require if any thing could be represented to the blind men? na thing, in respect that nather the sensles Image did thame behald, before quhilk thay war prostrat, nather thair eies being blinde & destitute of sight, could regard it. Restis then y t quhilk conueniently of this argument insewis, that this thair actioun can [Page] not be cailit representatioun, bot adoratioun & worshipping, expresly & derectly contrair to the command. My Lord glaidly considerit the force of the argument, & seing thairby our blind rabbi, so suddenly ouercome, that to vex his lordship with farther disputation he micht not, nather be ausuer to molest me, courteously rais [...]out of his Chyre, and as I had triumphit, embraced me: quhairat our maister apostat hauelie commouit, & raging within him selfe, immediatly cam running from the otherside of the Chalmer, desiring me againe to receit my argument. I in place of praise & victorie, desiring only the treuth to haif place, fulfillit his desire, he then in this priuie conference, thinking that he might boldly iniury me, nane being present to beir record yair to, na vther wise answerit to the consequence (thē away damnable heretique, I sal pluk ȝour Luggs, I sal ding out ȝour harnes,) to ye quhilk brauling quyetlie I replyit, that he wald offend in performing his promises, nather wald I with pacience suffer sie bragful bosting if he alane wald discharge him self of the same. This querrulous conference thus being endit, I taking my leaue of the cō panie, departit. And thair efter did conuene with him, and as he couartlie performit, that quhilk with baldnes he promised: I on ye vther part sumquhat commouit tuik leue at my awin hand of acquentance to visite his eare. Quhairof our countrey men (I mene thais yat ather wilfully hes abiurit thair Faith, or be a blind zeale impugnis the faming) being aduertised, & grittumlie reioysing, that heirby occasion commodiously was offred, to performe that quhilk befoir was deuisit, neglectit a tyme, bot thair hail wittis spedely imploiit, to cause this apostat to put thair counsel to execution. To yat end diuers conuentionis wer halden, declaring how I contemnit thair religioun, & micht not by ony moyen persuade me to embrace it. And how they micht peraduenture brokin my Lord Arbroith of his constancie, & sindrie times easily persuadit him to their faction, if yat I had not by insisting in the contrair withstand thair purposis, and to agrauat the caus, & to mak me ye mair odius, yai forgit infinit leis & fals accusations aganist me. Finaly to persuade this burrio to tak the mater in hād thai laid befoir his eies how grittumly al Catholikkis suld be obleist vnto him, & how far his auin name yairby sould be aduancit. [Page] Bot it was not hard to consel hī, quha in y e mater was redier to obey then yai ayer to cōmand or requeist: quhair of he gaue euident signes in quhatsūeuer he come in, of ye quhilk I not being ignorant, & thinking y t Dogs rather barquet throuch custōe thē throch cruelty mair of vse than of wildnes, secuirly I contemnit his brauling & lichtlye regardit his boosting, seing gif yat querrell war to be debaitit (In ye quhilk al men if occasion requyre, sould spend yair lyues) or yat controuersy decydit, betuixt me & him onlye, ayer be disputatioun or vthar extraordinar meanes: nather suld he find me fant in ye last, nor sluggishe in ye former. Neueryeles his malice encressing, diuers times be deceat he awaitit on me, accompaneit w t a grit number of young men, of ye quhllk sum gentil men hauing knawlege, socht ye way to stay his enterprise (wisely considering yat it was easy to him with grit force to ouercome me in Paris, quhilk in frier places and alane had perhappis not bene so facill) & purchessit ten dayis abstinence, ȝit he obseruing the reul approuit amongs yame, yat na Faith sould be kepit vnto yame quhome yai esteme as heretiques. The thrid day after quhilk was ye 18 day of Marche. 1580. I not weil instructed in yat point, yat mistrust was ye Mother of Securitie, suddenly was onbeset & at vnwaris inuadit be him & 13 debauchit scollers: quha violenly casting yair hands all w t one preis vpon my body & thrawing me to ye ground, tred me vnder yair feite. The pepill astonyit at sic lawles outrage, be sa mony persounis aganist me alane execute. Demandit Whisperingly, quhat menit sic horribill hādling & cruel demaning of me? quhat was ye occasion yairof? yai esteming yat ye pepill wald haue succourit me to hinder yair helpe, cryit out yat I was a Huguenot, a Heretique, a contemnar of ye Saints & a blasphemer of ye virgen Marie. quhairat yai war sa commouit, yat enragitly yai conioynit yair force w t yair fury, presing fordwart euery on to strike me, & to plague me mair yan to release me of my pane. But wald God yis had bene all, quhilk was ouer mekill, or ye rest a lye, quhilk is to monstrous. For yis Butchour w t his accomplices backwart trailit me through ye rewes, w t thair feit & edges of thair Muiles batit on my face, with pennerinkhornes & batons vpon my head, to the effusion of my blood in grit quantaty, disfigurating of my visage [Page] & wounding of my bodie. And albeit that from the college of [...]orteret throuch the rew d' amandeis be the head of the place Maubert shamefullie thai trailit me, euerie man & woman running from the market places to behald sic a spectakil, ȝit thai neuer desistit in raiing fra iniuries, nor in persewing fra crueltie. For be oppin force they drew me in the colledge of Nauer, & thair shamefullye in the presence of sax hundreth dischargit thair beistlines. Ȝea his cruelty with his complices tyrannie, sa far extendit, y t my breist was na m [...]ir sparit nor my bak, my craig nor my face, & beīg by my bluid quhilk fel in my throt, almaist wirried, the power of my bodie rather ouercome and strenth tyrit, thē my courage failȝeing, how I dispysit his creueltie sa far as my voyce micht extend. (❀ Composito ad hilaritatem vultu subridens dixi excute excute tyrannidem apostata, corpus habes in hoc saeuito animum tamen inuictumgero, nec me vn quam huius supplicij ob Christi euangelum pudebit.) To compt the sorows quhilk I sustenit, and reakning the pleagues quhilk I receuit, I am certane wald rather breid an admiratioun, then an beleif. But I mene not (gentle Reders) to offend ȝour guid & modest minds with the rehersall of sic immoderat iniuries, quhose eares I am assured dois glow, and haertis alreddy greuin at that quhilk I haue vterit, And ȝit I knaw that sic horrible and monstrous beistlyncs is hard to be credeit of thame quha knawes not the nature of thir cruell tygers. But the Lord is my witnes befoir quhais iustice sait I most compeir, that in this hail discourse I haif not excedit the bounds of treuth. Nather I think yat anie manis toung is abill to atteine to the hundreth pairt of the particularis, quhilk at that present this poore carcage suffered.
I haue lykewise many noble, leirnit, wise, & godly countriemen to beir me recorde heirin. Sic as The Lord of ARBROITH. The Earle of CRAVFVRD, The Maister of MARCHAL, The Lord of LENDORS, and Syr IAMES BALFOVR, quhome I name all to thair grit honour, quhairof for thair courtesie, christian loue, and freindly confort shawin vnto to me in my hauie distres I am cōpellit of deutie to be cairful sa lang as my lyfe sal lest. Quhair foir referring this mater to thair testimonie I will be shorte, seing [Page] they are worthie of credit in a gritter matter nor this alreddy bel [...] uit. It is not my purpose cairfully to refell, quhatsoeuar this filthy apostat falsly in his vennemous & godles letter, hes writtin, seing the honorable gentilmen befoir namit haue alredie conuictit him to be a shamful lyer.
Now I can not sufficiently meruel how this feinȝit Wose, dar be so bauld as to couer sic cruel dealing with the Gabart of the Rectoris command. Truly if the mater war weil tryit in ye maturinis, he wald be found an vnthankfull suppost to staene the honnour of his chief Magistrar, with sic outragious tyranie. This I am able to proue, how boldly I can not tel, how truelie I knaw, that the executioun of this beistlie fact came soner vnto the Rectors eares: then anie complaint maid aganist me. not geuin at the requeist of this vnnaturall Dog, a vndiscreit Rector wald sa far haue extendit his autoritie, I wald knaw of this impudent lier, quhat coulour the Rector could pretend to sie suddane commands. In maters of Religion he is na ordinar iudge: for sic cases are referrit vnto the court of Parliament, befoir the quhilk willinglie I wald haue comperit, knawing assuredly that be the King his edict of pacificatioun, quhilk sic vnbry delit and debordit Brigans dois contem, and by the cleirnes of my conscience void of crime, I wald esilie bene absoluit: If he wil alledge that in particular iniureis the Rectors autoritie was iustly interponit. ȝit be na Law he can mak it iust to condem a man befoir he be ather hard or sene.
As concerning the iniuries quhilk faslie he aledgis to be done vnto him be that maist modest godlie and leirnit man Maister NICOLL DALGLEISCH. in that point he hes als leudly & lounlie lyit, as in all ye rest. For as this apostats debordit and vicious life, bent to contentioun & stryfe, euer farther from modestie, then from vanitíe did abhor: sua the maners & good conuersatioun of Maister NICOL DALGLEISCH war adornit with sobriety & wisdome. Ȝea be the contrair it is not vnknawin to many in PARIS how proudly this vnnaturall scoffing foole, iniuryit yat godly man, & bow impudētlie his arguments being in a lauful forme proponit, admittit the twa former sumptionis, and the conclusion ansuerit, Ergo glaikis, w t vther iniurious words, quhairof he was compellit be his chief to make amē [...] [Page] althoht in hart he retenit still his auld venome.
I pas of purpose many rayling words, quhilk be his vntamit toung he blastis out against Gods seruāts w t out occasion, for sic an obscure Harlot yai neuer thoght worthy to be namit from that place, And returning vnto those, quhilks ȝit with blawen cheakis, riftingly he speuis forth against me, specialy in braiding vnto me vnthankfulness as if yat I had maid guid cheir with him, in his house, thairby geuing to vnderstād how familiarly he leuith with them, quh [...] hes zelously professed the treuth. I beseik ȝow (gentil reader) to haue me in this point appardonit, quhilk he wald haue importen sum misterie, seing for ye iustification of my cause, & for ye discharging of my honour, I am forcit to discover y t quhilk glaidly vtherwise I wald conceal: & vrgit to reuele mair than my modesty wald permit, or my honestye allow. It chanset me indeid at my first arryuing to Paris, for certen priuat busines, to seke a cousing of his in his chalmer. at quhat tyme he being at his parisien brekfast, offred vnto me sic coursly common courtesie, as na mā almaist without ruid & vngentle churlishnes, can neglect. I being inforcit be his inportune requeist, dranke with him in deid, bot sa far frō ryatous surfetting and grit gluttonie, as I micht weil haue receauit my part of an vther disione, now seing he is not aschamed to obiect vnto me sic smal triffils, vnwordy to be rehearsit not sa mekil proceading of loue, as of common custome, thou may easily (gentle Reader) consider the mans nature.
As touching the familiarity betuix him & others of our religioun: I wald knaw quhither it wer of loue, or of hypocrisie? of loue he can not say, seing he professis him selfe a deadly ennemie to al them that steadfastly mainteanis the cause of God. And thairfor promisis to ꝓuide new mater to our Ministers, meaning thairby, to slaye hurte or persicute sum mā. Besides that commonly in his drukkin lawings, he brags bosts & threatnis, that I sal be the last protestant, that euer sal lycht a candil in Paris. And thairfoir by necessarie consequence we may conclud y t it is by plain dissimulation, that this suppost of satan Iniyres him selfe in the companie of them that feareth Cod, wating thairby the occasion to cut thair throttis.
It is sumquat of veritie, that I haue sene sum, & heard vthers qu [...] [Page] hee [...] familiar with him bot only for this and siclyke [...] his [...] in his words [...] & his oftentation in his learning [...] exit [...] my Prince & my gounlynit [...]ith [...] mirrily to mock his folie. For I know my self [...] that his [...] pend for [...] space of half [...] did in weary [...] meruelling that [...]mbitiosly [...] his [...] to compose som epigramins in the commendatioun of him in philosophy [...]. that they might [...] put in the first leif of his [...] cipil being als [...] versit in poesi [...], as th [...] master yairof is altogether ignorant, gatherit yth [...]r mens epigramias in praise of poesy. The [...] ȝeir maister thinking th [...] verse to haue a good trot▪ & [...]ophing them r [...]ther by thair sounding, nor [...]cansing them be iust measure, approuit [...]hem althocht impertinent to the purpose, and thocht thay w [...] [...]greable to be placit befoir his buik, vntil my brother master IOHME GIDD [...] (quhome for our tend [...]r loue & for the good expectatioun of his preguant spirit, I name) reiding the vers [...] be ye master thogh oftentatioun to him of [...]ed did admonische him, that thay war not congruant vnto the mater nor agreable vnto the subiect. For the discipils intentioun being to [...] his master, Hammiltou [...] in philos [...] phy gaue him the cōmendation of a poet: sa far yat he did say in him numina quinque latent. quhen rather decem furiae.
[...] Thairfoir Hammiltou [...] vnto quhome my pen now I derect, v [...] nocht insolently, fauour not thy selfe, vanely [...]ot consider that [...] for thy good conditions, gentle qualities, or grit wisdome [...] thy societie or do embrace thy companie, quhen sum only to remarqu [...] thy shameles vanitie, & vthers is possible be to [...]in the agan [...] & d [...] lyuer thee from the deuils clawes ar bot with the familiar, desist th [...] ̄ from thy calumnion railing & leue of Hammiltoun thy [...] calumnies, make an end at last of thy [...] and measure thy [...] by thy awin soote. It is ambitioun that gydes thee, and [...] blinds thee. A [...]end by correctioun rather, th [...]n fail be pers [...]ueran [...] malice, estemit not solid louing or cumly commendatioun, that yair to thou may espyre by th [...] detracting of my learing. For albeit far from any on the an part, my youthful age t [...]rough hir course for a [Page] [...] (the [...] of my birth [...] on the vther, thou grosse cre [...]ure, of [...] then of knawledg, [...] bene in the Scholes of philosophie befoir my [...] ȝit pra [...]t be God we are not of [...] my side (without arrog [...]ncie be it spok [...]n [...] that will be d [...]it by thy sophistie, or stainȝit by thy calu [...]nie [...].
A [...] concerning my predicesseurt. Quhat may thou charge thē with quhairof canst thou accuis the [...]half th [...]y b [...]ne traitours vnto th [...]ir Kings; couspyrit tha iyair slaughters [...] or haue th [...]y slaine the Kingi [...] Maiesties Roge [...] not. For vther wayis al Scotlād wald conuict th [...] of a lie. My [...]randfather, culd shir & Father: ȝe & befor th [...] thair progi [...]itours on baith the sides, sa lang as thay had the vsury of this lif [...] hes bene obedient subiects vnto thair Kings, & borne of [...]ices as magistrat [...] in the Toun of Edinburgh, thair honestie & gu [...]d behauiour towards all men, wer alsu [...]il kna [...]in togidder with thair faithfulnes towards thair Superiours as the treasone crueltie & murthers of thy nerrest blood is manifest. culd thy brother (the Chappelier) absolu [...] him from the cruel murther of the Kings [...] guhen he being at his cruell slaughter in Striuiling lay stikk [...] in a gutters but allac [...] the death was ouer honorabil that suld preuentit the gallous, yairfor Partius ista viris tamen obiectate memento. To returne to the purpose, Amangs my forbear [...], thou art not able to name any, that euer was attemptit w t sic crymes as thou falslie layis vnto thair charge. If I wald giue place vnto my affections, or in referring euill woordes wald w t thee contend, from the qhuilk debait my wil dois mekil abhorre, I might iusty paint thee in thy awin couleurs, & [...] thy [...]win maners odious vnto thy [...] nor in so doing I wald peraduētur offend th [...] eares of the [...]odly, being yairto enforcit by thy selanderus railing. For if ather honesty might mouit the, or re [...]oun had possessit th [...]e, besid [...]s the tinsal of thy estimatioun, thou suld no [...] causit [...]ther mens honours to cum in hazard, rather by irreue [...] scuffing & i [...] ting tants by malice speuit furth against Gods predestinatioun, maid it als foolishelie, as ignorantly, a defence for thy mischief ignorantly I say, becaus to quhome significations of words are not knawin, th [...]gs [Page] be them signified are not veil vnderstand. For in place of prescience and fore knawledge, scoffingly thou vsis predestination, being of th [...] significatioun maist ignorant. To the quhilk I ansuer (correcting the in the word quhairin lourdly thou hes errit) yat God did not cōpell thee to execuit sic outrage against me, nather by fatall destinie driu [...] ̄ the (as thou ieasts) to selander his Ministers, & to impugne his tr [...]uth (for thairunto thy wicked wil and cankred affectioun was bent) Ȝis because God did foirknaw & hath fortald, that his seruants sulde be persecut be trubles and suffer ignomie for his saik: It was not contrar vnto his wil that thou suld sua haue done. Albeit heirfoir thou is not frie from cryme, seing sic excusis Iudas micht haue vsit in betraying Christ▪ For wicked men do not obey God, how soeuer thay put to executioun tha things quhilk the Lord our God him self has apointed. For obedience proceadeth of a volunti [...]r affectioun trusting to please him. And ȝit thou persistand in thy foolishness, fearing to for get thy vanitie vnaduyslie maks thy selfe guilty of trasoun, in ratefiing and approuing the murther of the first Regent. For in scorning me, thus wayis thou writes. that I rather demereit to be put in the Kalender of our Bybill, seing that I was persecuit be thee as an enemie to Religioun, nor vthers quha war slaine for particulare feid, &c not for Religioun. We are not ignorant of quhome thou wrytis: defame him baldly, Inuy his honour desist not frō thy railing, approue mair nor regret his murther, the dome is decernit, the sentence is pronuncit: the gallous is abyding thee.
Alwayisas it is the leist portioun of my wil to ansuer to sic scuffings: sua it is not ye maist part of my deutie to repres thy scandaleux tong For as thairin na end culd be had: sua y is writing thairby s [...]ld excres to an grit volume. ȝit for eschewing of prolixity quhilk may procure tidiousnes, and for the pretermission of thy calumious railing, quhilk may breid offence, I wil end. Protesting alwayis we be hard concerning the ancient Docteurs. quhais autorities nather we contemne nor dois reiect, hot willingly thame imbraces. prouyding that thai be cō form [...]ble to the word of God, agreabil euery an w t vther, and not dissenting from them selfes.
Attour quhair m [...]trimonie thou improuis, & chastitie wald persuad [Page] because that thou hes set doun dissimulation as a setled sentence, esilie I can not be persua dit, that thou hes discommendit in the Ministers that honorable band of Matrimonie, be God autoriti [...], be Christ decorit, and by the haly Gaist in the mouth of the Apostle honorit. For as it war a wolrd to creddit that Clodius earnest [...]ye reasonit of pudicitie: sua it is a wounderful thing to heare Hammiltoun a comon harlot commend Chastitie. Thy harlatrie is als oppinly knawin to vs in Scotland & in France: as thou art thairof in thy awin conscience priuie. Ȝea mair assuredly I affeirme that our Ministers als modestly vsis thair awin Wyffes, as thou hast filthely abusit vthers. Looke, inquyre and searche the hail estait of the Ministrie of Scotland, n [...]ne sal thou find quhais lyfe & conuersatioun is not als mekil to be commendit, as thine with the hail pasturs of ȝour Cacolyke kirk is to be dispraisit In this mater na vther proofe I wil vse than bring ȝour awin Writars for confirming of the same. Quha testifies that ȝour Kirks was as bordels, ȝour Altars as beds for Whordome, and the Priests w t Froiris vnder pretence of confessing, ather seruit as Pandaroussis to corrupt W [...]men▪ or as Adulterars to abuse them. This halynes (I wil not say opin wickednes) was not in priuat pasturs on lie, bet also in Abbots Byschops, Cardi [...]ils & Paps, the fauorisiers, permitters & defendars of sic [...]normities. For Pape sixtiis gaue full dispensatioun for fornications & adulteries that was fifthely vsit in Italy in his tyme: sua thay fel not in the horrible cryme of Sodomie▪ all Hoores for the tollerance of thair bordellis as [...]ufull tributairs payit him monethlye in Gold. The Epitaphes of thair libidinous lust and lycherous lyues ar ȝit extant as a monument of thair commendable chastetie. As of Pape Sixtus.
Thir ar the signs of the chastitie of the Romane Prelats quha thinks it les sin to enterteine Harlots than to assofiat them self [...] in the band of Matrimonie. Thir at the takens of thair grit continencie, and the [Page] [...] or th [...]ir e [...]poysoned doctrine quhilk being but a mas of [...] As abusi [...] the vogue of christian Religioun. Ȝit n [...]n [...] thair is of s [...] lytle iudgement, that wil thair eyes open: or sa expert of knauledge, that can not perceaue it to be only an heip of trumperies, deceits, & superstitious abusis. In confirmatioun quhairof, as our ministers couragiously racea [...]is thy vnaduisit offer: sua thay being assured of victorie, cryis prouokes and appels ȝou all to disputatioun. And for ya [...] effect I on thair behalf, desyres thee (if be thy behauiour thou maye come in sic creddit) that thou requeist thy Prince, that licence may be impetrat fra the King of France and his counsel to our ministeris to cum to France, quhairthrough sall ense [...] tua grit commoditeis besides many vthers, the an in sauing of expensis, the vther in releauing of ȝour bodies from trauel. Prouiding [...]lwayes that w e saife condu [...]t pledges be grantit for the securitie of thair bodies and preseruatioun of thair lyues, because thay haue plaine proofe & dayly experience of ȝour fals promises & deceatfull treasons; that without grit danger vpon naked promisis and ane bair letter, thay can not hazard thame selfes. For the grit malice ȝe haif conceaued against thame: & the cruel murther of IOHN [...] HV [...] and I [...]ROME of PRAGA shamefully betryit at the counsall of Constance, with the iressonable and horrible massacars dayly committit with the violatioun of ȝour faith contrair the seruands of Christ; makis thame at last to become mair wise and mair circumspect than of before. Neuertheless, I think that this offer of disputatioun be not be the rest of our Scottis papists proponit, bot vanely & vousteously be ȝo [...] offred. For then diffidently and maist dispairitly thay wald do, if thay wald commit to sic an ignorant asne the maist vnlearnit am [...]ngs thame all anie argument yair of. Delyte not Hammiltoun in thy pregnant wit I wil not say thy folishe vanitie? bot a smal prick of a praine may sca [...]l the wind in blaw in bleddars
In end, as voyd and eruptie vess [...]ls rings maist and tattels loudest [...] euen so thou of gritter ostentarioun then of doctrine, of arrogancie then of knawledge, of rasher railing then of solid reason, bosteously after thy blasphemies thus wayis cōcludes, if thou proue not Christs [...]uangel, or our trew Religioun quhilk truely we profes, an [...] heip of [Page] [...] condemn it her [...]sies thou with the rest [...] without mercy being execut) to suffer the [...] aduent [...]re thin [...] tha [...] zealously thou hes this [...] thy dissimulatioun and conscience in Religioun by thy intercepted le [...]ter veil instructed. can [...] dence vnto thy promisis then thy [...] in Religioun [...] besides thee [...] prefer rit not thy particulare vtilitie befoir Gods [...], & thy priuate cō moditie befor [...] his worshipping. Bot if it may be demed be thee, and iudged by vthers, that mair by accusatioun, then through iust reason I sa suspect thee. let thy awin setled iudgement giue proofe heirin. & that thou sould haue na cause ayther to accuse me in depriuing thy dytement, or in wrais [...]ing thy words. I haue set downe a portioun of thy letter directed vnto ane. quhais name for sindry respectis I haue conceald.
¶ I pray [...]ow heir the saying of a foole. Ȝ [...] kn [...]w the answer of the wise King of France, (qui neseit distimula [...]e nescit regn [...]re. And Cicero say is, ment [...]uivsque est quisqu [...], as haue [...]ne [...] of paragraph is of the [...]it. De dolo m [...]lo, and how it differs fra the [...]. To win a Baronie of land ȝe wil find out [...] to the preser [...]atioun of ȝour s [...]ul My he [...]d raues efter [...]
How canst you defend thy impiety masquet hypocreit [...]hou canst [...]y remoue from vs that persuasioun that thou art not an [...] & epicurien [...] is thair any sa far from knawledge, or sa dotish? sa sensles, o [...] sa ignorant, that may not manifestly and by plaine confessioun, decerne thy [...]odles conscience? Whether if I suspect the wrangfully, or nocht: let thy awin words beir recorde and the indifferent reade [...] Iudge.
I will not vse sarder writing, ether in reprouing thy foolish [...]es, refelling thy calum [...]ies, or in brydling thy venemous toung. bot ending, returne vnto that, from the quhilk the grounde of this apologie hes flowit. That albeit the wicked nature of godles men, enemies to all trew Religioun, trauels be al moyen to oppres the professours of the same Ȝit earnestly we call vnto God that thairby we may nocht be discouragit calling to remembrance, we are aduertisit our condition to be, for to awake by approbri [...], ȝea in doing good calumniously to be accusit. And that God hes this Law imposit and inioynit vnto his [Page] [...] beleues in him▪ [...] not only [...] molestit, tro [...], [...] also with ignomie & infemie condemnit to the death. And seing our conditioun is not [...] the Apostles, quha war [...]st [...]mit as superfluities of the w [...]rld, we thinke it [...]a shame howsoeuer for the [...] of the [...], persecuit, or to be cōfigurat with our Maister and Sauiour [...] qusin was [...] for vs, & to [...] [...]n [...] ingloir that in his persoun all quhilk we for the testimonie of the tr [...]uth indure, sal be turnit to our ioy, and conuerrit to our comfort. To whome be euerlasting gloir, w t all honour, and praise, for euer.
¶ HEIR FOLLOW IS YE CONFVTATIOVN OF HIS ERRONEOVS CONCLVSIONS WHAIR OF This is the first.
[...]Thair it only a [...] haly and Catholik Kirk dispersit on the face of the hail earth, out of the quhilk thair can [...] be sa [...]it.
SEING thy purpose and intentioun is: partly to acqueir vaine gloir, and to be reputed leiruit amangs the ignorants; and partely by opponing thy selfe maliciously contrair the veritie, to impugne impudently Christs euangel. I meruel not a lytill qnhat spreit sould haue mouit thee, that iniustly thou sould hane traducit our Ministers, and be sic propositiouns traualit (if thou micht) to conwict thame: as if thay ather in thair sermons hath teachit, or in their doctreine denyit, to be ane holy & Catholik Kirk. throuch the warld dispersit, out of the quhilk, thair is na saluatioun. Bot euer constantlye to hais affirmit, that they quha wald be heritours of the Father, behouit to be in the fameil & housald of the mother. In the quhilk it hes pleasit God to regenerat thame whome he hath designed to be coheritours with his sonne Christ Iesus. Bot let vs expend the consequence quhilk of this propositiō thou dois attex, and of the places impertinently broght furth of ye scriptures and confusly out of the doctours for probatioun.
ADVERSAR. Then if [...]hair is [...]a saluatioun out of the Catholik Kirk necessarly it dois follow what ather the Kirk of Scotland, laitlie erectit be Knox & Paul Methuer, & vthers of thair sect is not the trew kirk or els all our forfathers quha dyit in the Romane Kirk ar condemnit in s [...]ull & body to the eternal fyre of hel, because they neuer embraced si [...] a religioun as this caluenisme.
ANSWER. I answer vnto this desperat conclusioun, that our forbears wer in the same Kirk. that we ar now. And albeit they vnderstuid not sa weil sindry heads of Religioun as was requyrit: Cyp lib 2. cp. 3. Ȝit with S. Ciprian I say, that althogh thay by ignorance and simplicitie offend it; ȝit the clemencie and mercy of the Lord may haue them app [...]rdonit. Quhairvnto [Page] we thair Children can not aspyre. seing we may not pretend ignorance for our defence, being of sic superstition and abusis admonished, and at this time faithfully in the veritie i [...]structed. Ȝit thairto nocht the les resisting by a deliberat malice.
❧ THE SECOVND. The Kirk of Christ is the sure rock of ver [...]le, Sa it is impossible Scho can erre in on [...] thing pertenand to mens Saluatioun.
Quhat is the meaning of this apostat I sal schortly expone The papists affirmes that the Kirk of Christ, euin in sic thigs as it decreits or decernis without the word of God, can not erre. Our assertioun vpon this head is this, In admitting sa far the Kirk dois not erre, quhen hir awin wisdome being remouit, sho suffers her self through the haly spirit, be ye word of God to be gouernit. the controuersie remains in this point we will haue the autoritie of the Kirk annexit to the word of God, and subiect to the voyce of her Spouse: thay will haue it aboue the word, and consequently aboue the halye Gaist: [...] 14 [...] 16. because inseperablie thay ar cōioynit. Bot to ȝour probatiōs.
ADV. This conclusioun is confirmit in S. Mathew, quhair Christ promisit to Peter that the gates of hel sal not preuail against his Kirk.
ANS. We confes that Christ hes promised that the ports and gaits of he sal not preuail against the elect. That is, that thay sall not alluterly ouerthrowe them, albeit in sum things and for a tyme thay may fall.
Ioh. 14.AD. And S. Iohne say is I sall pray the Father and he sal giue them the haly Spreit to remaine with them for euer.
AN. I answer that this promeis of Christ is maid vnto the elect & chosin children. nether ȝit so to them, but they leaning vpoun thair awin iudgement ar oft tymes suffred to fal, baith in doctrinee and maners. Quhilk insirmityes notwithstanding sal na way preiudge thair saluatioun. As by monye hundereth examples of the seruands of God is prouin. Sa yat the Spreit of God is neuer alluterly remouit from them. Bot ȝit sumtyme thay feil the weight of thair imperfections wher in neuertheles that Heuinly seid of regeneratioun do thar [...]fter vtter the selfe.
AD And be S▪ Paul to Tim calling the Kirk the piller and sure ground of veritie.
[Page]AN. I answer that it is not so called absolntly, & without all respect so pronuncit by the Apostle, for then Christe war not the sure grund & corner stane thairof, quhilk is not only maist absurd to affirme: bot contrair the Epistle to Corinth, and Ephesi. thairfore to ansuer directly: in this respect ye kirk is the sure ground of veritie. Because Gods word, & haly scrip teurs quhilks are the veritie, vphalds the Kirk.
AD. Of this conclusioun it is notoriously knawin to al vneffectionat me, that the ministers of Scotland a [...] blasphemous against Gods promeis▪ quhen they teache & preiche that the Kirk of God may erre in ony head of Saluatioun.
AN. Blasphemous mouth, thy foolish iudgement & blindnes conioynit with extreme malice heirby mair suffiàiently is discouered. Our myndes we haue declarit vpon this mater, vnto to the quhilk we adioyne, that Christ hes left his word vnto his Kirk, euen as an compas in an Schip. quhairunto if the Mariners haue regard, the Schip dois not erre nor go astray. Let in lykewaise the woord of God suffice for an Compasse quhairby the Kirk may be reulit that sho erre not.
❧ THE. III. PROPOSITIOVN. ¶ The members of Christs Kirk in the earth ar not only the guid quha as inheriteurs of Christs Kingdome in heauen, bot also the euill sa lang as thay keip vnttie with the rest of Christs flock.
I confesse that the visible Kirk of God dois consist of good and euil men. quha be Christ ar comparit to cauff and corne heipit in a barne togither. bot a maist absurd opinioun it is, & damnable in the self, for to affirme the wicked to keip vnitie of faith with the Godly, or that thay ar the mēbers of Christ. For seing Christs flock be faith ar fauit: the wicked retaining with them (as thou hes written) the vnitie of Faith: most necessarlie be sauit.
AD. Of this the c [...]ft of the Ministers may be discouerit, quha perceauing themselues condemnit by the vesible Kirk. feinȝeis to themselfs an [...]uuisible.
AN. Be quhat kind of argumentatioun is this cons [...]quent inferrit? I requyrit better iudgement of a xx ȝeirs dialectatiner thē in his anticedent he suld haue repugnantia in adiccto and of the saming scoffing calumny is broght in, rather then [Page] a formell conclusioun. I afferme that our Kirkes are veseble, thair doctreine hard, and obedience sa far as our corruptit natures may suffer geuin thairto, and themselves are sene.
❧ THE IIII PROPO. The Kirk of God [...]n the earth of necessitie man be veseble & knawi [...] throgh ye w [...]rld.
❧ I sall conuince be iuste and force bill arguments that quhilk thou wald obtrud vnto vs to wit, visibelitie to be an trew & essentiall note of the Kirk of God. For be dyuers waies the visible kirk may be obscured. of ye quhik w [...] laik not sufficient examples baith in haly scripturs & prophane histories. Quha knawes not that vnder the dayes of King Achab, the Kirk of God was so obscurit, that the Propheit Elias he [...]uely complainit, nane was left on lyfe except him that did honour God? And quha is ignorant of that cruelty in the dayis of Nero (Domitian, Dece, Diocletian, Maximilian, Valerian, Aurelian, Valentian, Rhedaguse, Gersorich, Attill [...], quhairby the persecutioun of the faithfull was so feirfull that the haill number of the Christians being almaist deuourit by the sword, the remanent had na Kirkis to assemble themselues to the seruice of thair God? In constantinus age the resident of the faithfull was so small: that the Empriour mokking Athanasius and Liberius said, that thay only perturbit the peace & tranquilitie of the haill earth. Vnto whome Liberius ansuered, not because O Empriour we are fewe in number and alane, the worser is our faith. Moreouer as the Kirk of God may be oppressed be persecution: sua it may ba obscured by the darknes and clouds of superstitious errours, broght in be corrupted pasteurs, subiect vnto ignorance and malice, quhairthrow the Euangel of Christ [...]uely may nocht appeir. For S Paull him selfe testifyis that in the latter dayes the Antichrist sall sit in the middes of hir.
I micht vse in this argument mony [...]autorities of ancient writers for probatioun, les nor I sould seeme to be tedious. Thairfoir I returne vnto the rest of his reasones. and to that [Page] of Isaias, Isai. [...]. quhilk he abusis, restoring that place corrupted be him to the a win puretie.
In the last dayes [...]he mountaine of the house of the Lord sathe prepari [...]n [...] [...]ontains and exalted aboue all h [...], and all nations fall come v [...]to it.
I answer that the excellencie of the mount Sion, quhairof thy Prophet speiks, pertains lytle or nothing vnto the perpetuall visibilitie of the Kirk. Bot that in this respect it was prefeirit befoir all vthair mountains. Because that thair christ was first preichit be his Apostles. To quhais doctr [...]ine [...]fterwart the hail warld gaue obedience. And thair for it is said, that all nations sall flow thairunto. Not that al men come rinning to Ierusalem; M [...]. [...].bot that forsaking thair errours, returned vnto the trueth, quhilk at Ierusalem first was preichit.
AD. And S. Mathew saying that an eytie puildi [...] vpon an montain [...] can not be hid.
AN. This place nathing establisseth thy errour. For he yat hes a spoink of iudgement may perceaue, that Christ onelie speakes in that place of the m [...]ners and conuersatioun of the Apostil [...]. Mat. 10.
AD Christ commands also to haue recours vato the Kirk and s [...]haw vnto it [quhilk war impossible. les nor it war visible) if that he quha has offendit the ma [...] na satisfaction for p [...]iuat admonitioun.
AN. Demanding of the, I answer with that Godly & lei [...] nit man Maister THOMAS SMETOVN. whether heirfoir suld we haue recourse to an vniuersall or particular Kirk? To an vniuersall we may nocht, because nather it nor the members thairof can be conuenit togidder in an place. And a particulare be the proces of tyme may decay and be obscurit, And thairfor not visible, sa be this argument thou may proue lytle, seing Christ in that place alludis vnto the Senat of the Iewis, quha Inquyrit of the maners of euerie man.
AD. S. Augustene promis this cl [...]irly saying, [...]. Augu. devn [...] [...]ccl [...]. [...] is against the promeis of Christ that ather his Kirk be vnuesible or only knawin as ȝours in Gene [...] & in Scotland in certe co [...]ne [...] of the wa [...]ld.
AN. I grant that in S. August. age the Kirk of God verye much did floorish. And iustly he reprouis the donatists, quha did reioyce in their fewnes, afferming that the Kirk of God be onlie in a corner of Aphrica, & that they for the sinnis of v [...]hers, war s [...]parat from the communioun of the [...]arld. Ȝit if [Page] thou speaks of our age, without grit shame thou can not defend the Kirk of God to be visible all whair, for smal & lytill is the part of the warld, few ar the regi [...]uns of the earth, in ye quhilk Christ is visiblie proffessit, his words preachit, and his Sacraments deuly administratit. And gritter is the number of hethens, Chrisi [...]. 4 in Is [...]iam. Iewes and Turks, than of Christians.
AD. S. Chrisostome sayi s that it is als impossible that the Kirk of God be hid, as the Sun [...] to be destitute of his lyght.
AN. Bot quha dayly dois not see Apostat that the light of the Sune is obscurit & darknit be the thikness of trublit cluds and heirof thairfoir a better consequence, with gritter reason may be collected: Euin as the brichtnes of the Sone by troublit motions in the air may be hinderit & darknit: sa the kirk of God ether be externall persecutioun of ennemyis, or by the in wart corruptioun of pasteurs for sum space appeir not, vntil God of his grace represse the fury of his enemies, and abolische by the brichtnes of his Word the ignorance & corruptioun of pasteurs.
AD. Of this we gathe [...] that since the Ministers are constranit to conf [...]sse thair Synagog to bene v [...]uesible at the leist mair nor an 1000, ȝeir it is▪ impossible it can be the trew Kirk.
AN. I wil answer thy blasphemyis with silence, resraning from replying euil words, les vnwittingly I be conuincit of that quhilk I haue alreddy condemnit in thee. to the matter I affirme our doctrine not to be new, for it is als ancient as y [...] faith quhilk we professe nor our Kirks vnuisible [...] this 1000. ȝeir. For we baldly defend, that in na age sence the Pape (the sone of perditioun) hes vsurped sic tyrannicall power, that thair hes not bene sum, quhome God steare vp in opponing thame against his tyrannie And althoght this lang time as S. Paull has forespokin, he hes sittin in the middest of the tempill. His antiquitie of possessioun, sould not turne the verytie in a [...]use. Seing ane hours prescriptioun, may sufice to anull his papedome.
❧ THE V. PRO. *In the trew and Cathol [...]k Kirk thair hes bene and sal be euer an continuall successious of faithfull Docteurs & Pasteur [...].
[Page]That the confutatioun of of this conclusioun the mair easily may be concaued, & for eschewing of tha things, quhilks may reteine the lecteur in suspence, we mynd shortely to intrreat of the mater it selfe. We planely deny (quhairof we fall assigne guid reasons) that the Kirk of God is decernit by personal successioun, a note conuenient to al Kirks, Grecians Assyrians, Armenians, and Ethiopians: quhilkis the Pape hes condemnit in mony heads of heresie. And mair proper, to indaisme, and turcisme: then to the Kirk of Christ, as afterwart salbe breifly declarit.
AD. This is prouit by S. Paul to the [...]phesi. 4. chap that Christe gaue to his Kirki [...] sum Apostlis, sum prophets, Euangelists, Pasteurs and docteurs.
AN. We acknawledge Hammiltoun Christs gifts, & benefeits, be the quhilks cairfully and beneficially he hes indeuit his Kirk. Bot it is far socht to collect heirof, an continual sue cessioun from Pape, to Pape.
AD. And in S [...]ath. quhair Christ say is to his Apostles I sathe with ȝou to the end of the warld. of t [...]e quhilk this thou infers Sua that gif the Apostlis did not remaine in thair a win persons as thay did not. it is necessare that thay ramanit in their successeurs vnto the latter d [...] y.
AN O profound iudgement! Bot seing I will not tak vpon me, to alter thy words, I leaue them by thy selfe to be corrected, and thy mynd farther to be explained, quhilk of it self is vaine, dark and obscure. For I wald thou fatiss [...]it my petition quhilk is necessar. Whither did the Apostles remaine in their successours bodily or spiritually? spiritually they micht not: Seing it is the Spreit of God, & not of the Apostles, that suld remaine▪rests then that bodely and substantialie, quhilke is fals.
AD. August, S. Augu. epist. [...]65 prouis be this argument the Donastis to be Schismatiques because they [...]culd shaw [...] na [...]successioun of lawfull pasleurs sen Christs dayis.
AN. Treuth it is that augusteine e [...]teames it to be ane grit benifites of God and solid praise and commendatioun to the Kirk, that from Peters dayes, and the Apostles, they war vnto his age, a successioun of lanfull pasteurs. but he neuer repu [...]it personall successioun, to be an maist proper, necessare, and in fallabill note of the kirk, for he him self affirmes the contrair [Page] s [...]ying [...] [...]ill not proue our Kir [...]s, De v [...]it [...]cl. [...]. [...]ther by successioun of Byshops, autoriti [...]s of councels, or be the number of miracles [...]nd visions, but be the prescriuit [...]ords of the euangel. For if it [...]ar an necessar and maist propre not of the kirk; whairlyneall successioun war, thair also suld be the Kirk of God. This reciprocatioun most be, for thou ea [...]teamis it to be proprium quarto modo. The Scrybes then and Pharisies personallie & lynealie discending from Aaron and Moyses(in quhais chyre ordinarly & successiuelie they sat) quha crucesyit Christ suld be the trew Kirk. I do not approue this reasoun but ȝour for-argument standing trew, it is inuincibill▪ in end, if euer the autoritie of ony kirk micht bene aduancit by personall successioun, it was Ierusalem: seing it was promisit, that the Lord for euer suld inhabit yat [...]empil. & thairfor be this word the [...]ēpil the Temple of the Lord, they opponit thē vnto the Prophets. bot we read in the 7 chap. of [...]eremie quhat was answerit. Finallie granting (without preiudice to the veritie) lyneal sue cessioun to be an trew note to the kirk, we acknawledge it to mak mair for our defence, then for ȝour poursuit considering that our pasteurs succeadis personallie to quhatsume [...]er hes b [...]rne office in Christs Kirk: and in doctreine, vnto Christ & his Apostels, and vnto all vthairs, that after thame treulie hes professed the same word.
❧ THE VI. PRO. Am [...]ng [...] all the pa [...]t [...]ar [...] of the Kirk the preacipall hes bene the Bischops, sence Chri [...]te [...] day [...]. 6.
Thir propositioun dois vtter thy shameles ignorance, vnderstanding not quhat the names of BYSCHOPS & ELDAR [...] meanes. Quhilk sumtymes baith by the Scripteur of God, & [...]ncient W [...]ytars, war sa confundit, as the ane was indifferent lie takin for [...]he vther, as leirnitlie prouis Hierome vpoun th [...] first to Titus▪ Esterwart the names war so deny dit, that be th [...] word BYSCHOP they onlie vnderstuid the quha laubor [...]t in preaching the word. And by the ELDARS tha, quh h [...]d [Page] the C [...]nsure of maner [...]. In this last sence if the word be t [...]kin It is trew, that the BYSCHOPS a [...] cheif amangs all Pasturs and that the Elders ar subiect vnto them and sua [...]nderstands Ignatius ad Philad. and Augusteine [...]ryting of Aerius. but I pray thee good master [...]ammiltoun, quhair red thou that by the scripteur of God they suld be inequal [...]tie amangs trew By shops, that is, the faithful preachers of Gods word [...]read ouer, consider the m [...]ter a litill b [...]tter, and yairefter giue me an degest answer.
❧ THE. VII. PROPOSITIOVN. Among [...] all Bysh [...]p [...] the Byshop of Rome [...] [...]toritie and iurisdictioun. 7
This propos [...]tioun verry of be [...]odlie men hes bene discussit [...]nd now l [...]the by that singular leirnit man Maister THOMAS SMETOVN lear [...]itlie ref [...]ted: that to trauell in this treatise in the desoluing of the same, wald appeare almaist superflous, if his malicious mynde war satisfyit [...]nd [...]alumnies repressit. Quhilk althocht it be hard to do, seing by reasoun it can not be contentit: Ȝit [...]a far as in writ, by sum obiections it is decla [...]it, with gritter modestie I wil answer, then he with iniurious words hes obiectit. Bot of a thing I wald admoi [...]she the [...]e [...]er or I proceadit farther, seing the probations of this propositioun ar sa confus [...]e patchit together, that scarcesi [...] d [...]stinctlie they can be confuted, for tha pl [...]ces quhilk sould bene befo [...]r, this apostat hes placit behind: and tha quhilk sould haue bene placit behind, [...]r placit out of all ordonr b [...]foir: and [...]aking th [...]t for the secound member of his probatioun, q [...]hilk is the next conclusioun follo [...]ing [...] sal ind [...]uour my se [...]fe derectli [...] to answer to all, and first vnto that place of the [...]u [...]ngel misconstrued be him, and wrang [...]itllie thrawin f [...]t the supremacy of P [...]ter. For Peter in that place confussed Christ to be the sonne of the leuing God, M [...]t. 1 [...] vnto [...] home Christ promised that he was Peter, and vpon that rock q [...]hilk [...]e confessit he wald buyld his Kirk. that is, that confessioun quhilk Peter [Page] maid, or Christ be Peter confessed. was the onlie foundatioun▪ and sure rock quhali vpon the kirk suld be buyldit, as S Paul [...] witnessech saying, 8. Co [...]. 1. na man can lay an vther fundatioun then that quhilk is alreddy [...]aid, IESVS CHRIST. Vnto this expositioun the Ancient fathers nocht onlie accords, bot also they approue it vniformaly, Chrisist. 55. s [...]p [...]r Hieto in Mar. [...] Augu. tractat 12 [...], sup. Ioh [...]. Chrisost. Ambrois Hierom, and August. quha affirmis that Pet [...]r was callit from Petra the rok and nocht Petra from Pet [...]r; as Christ is not namit fra an christiane, bor an christiane from Christ, vnder the name of th [...] Rock, Christ is signified: and vnder Peter, all christiane pepil▪ and mair planely this reuerend father wryts, that Christ wald say be tha words. I will build ȝou Peter vpon me, and not me vpon▪ ȝou. For if the kirk war buildit vpon Peter, it wald hau [...] a waik fundatioun, and the ports of hel suld preuail against it. in respect the voyce of a woman maid him to abiure & deny Christ.
AD. Secoundly Christ promised at that tyme quhilk befoir was performit, bot th [...] Kirk at that tyme, wa [...] biggit vpon Christ him selfe. Heirfoir he meaneth, not the buylding of the Krik vpon him self bot vpon Peter and his successeur [...].
AN. I regret mair thy ignorance, nor thy foolishe vanitie. for a thing that is performit, neids not againe after the performing, to be promised. Bot when it is promisit, it is requiseit to be performit. Christ then Hammiltoun, performit rather that thing quhilk befor he had promisit, then promisit that quhilk before was performit.
AD. Thirdlie Christ [...] promeis was that he sould confirme the rest of his breathere [...] quh [...]n euer thay s [...]ld f [...]ll in ony doubt.
AN. Treuth it is, Christ commandit Peter to confirme his bretheren, and sa suld al trew pasteurs. Bot quhat of this? Nathing.
AD. Last of all it is [...]otoriously k [...]awin to all q [...]ha r [...]i [...]s the E [...]an [...]elists, that Peter was called [...] first of the Apostles.
[...]. 1 [...].AN. Asinus port [...]t misteria. & it is a grit pitie Hammiltoun thou want [...] pulpet, hauing sa weil preachit ouer the Pot. I think this reason was maid in the MAR [...]ET ȝour head being weill a gait in the west. In the rehearsal of the Apostles namis beginning is maid from Peter. Ergo sayis our [...]o. ȝeirs dialecticiner. [Page] Peter is the head of the Apostles, I [...]ns [...]er that th [...] consequēce is not good, quhairvpon sic vsur ped tyrannie suld be establishit. for the spreit of God is not scrupulus in placing of words before, or efter, seing the names of the Apostles ar rehearsit in Mark, & Luk, bot the saming ordour is not obseruit, And in the 2 chap. to the Galla. James is preponit before Peter, the sonne also b [...]fore the Father, Gal. 1. rather then it is [...]o be estemit that as the Apostles war chosin & callit. Sua in the 10. chap. they [...]ar rehearsit.
AD. The vther part is that the Byshop of Rome h [...] succedit with lyke a [...]toritie & Iurisdictioun a [...]one all Byshops becaus the orde [...] that Christ institut s [...]uld remaine for [...]uer.
AN, An perplex method and confused ordour in disput [...] tatioun, for this is nathing different from the nixt proposition to the quhilk mair conuenientlie I sall answer then I wald in this place.
❧ THE VIII. PRO. Euse. lib. 5. cap. 4. The Pape of Rome in the primitiue Kirk hes euer sensyne exereysit his iurisdictiō abonet all vther Byshops.
AD. Vve proue this by Victor quha being neare the Apostils dayis excommunica [...]he hail Kirks of Asi [...] because they wald not agrie with the Kirk of Rome concerning [...]he obseruatioun of [...]asche day.
AN. Thou art far ouerschot in g [...]uing ouermekill credit to the reporte of vthers, or to muche libertie to thy a win iudgement. for nathing is writtin of Pape Victor in Eusebius 4.5.6. or 7. chap. of his 5. buik, alwayes I with mair trauell and diligence, hes searchit Eusebius volums and hes red in his 22. and 23. chap. of sum litill controuersie amangs the Kirks of Rome and Asia; bot so indifferent, that he testifies that by the discr [...] pant and various obseruation of the maner of fasting, the concord of of the efficacie in profe [...]sing the Euangell, & the vnitie of faith, was verie mekil commendit. Bot Victor (sayis our apostat) excommunicat the haill Kirk of Asia? treuth. bot by quhat autoritie? for rather it was by proude ambicioun, then by laufull reasoun. For Policrates referrit the custome of th [...] Apostles and Martyrs to quhome he succedeth anents the obseruatioun [Page] of [...]asch day. And wald in n [...] wayis sub [...]it him self to the Byshop of Rome; quhairfoir Victor mouit be an ambitious spreit excommunicat him. Bot Eusebius Adionis verum ista ceteris omnibus p [...]rum placebant Episcopis. in sa fa [...] that IRENEVS heuely inuehit against hi [...].
[...]p lib. [...] [...]pist. 1 [...]AD And b [...] S. Cyp quha writs to Stephan [...]s Pap [...] o [...] Rome to depos [...] Mar [...]ian [...] because h [...] was au Nouatian.
AN. Ȝeschaw weil haith by th [...] citatioun and euilgatheri [...] sentēce that thou neuer saw S. Cip. work, for he in the 1 [...]. epist. of his 3 buik wrytes to Steph. that he derect letters to the prouince and people of Arles, desyring them to depose Martianus and place another in his roume. Quhairin he plainlie declairi [...] that it perteins na mair to Stephanus nor to any vther Bysho [...] saying, Si quis ex Collegio nostro heresin facere, et grege [...] Christi lacerare et va; tare tentauerit: subuenié t ceteri, & quasi pastores v [...]iles, oues dominicas in gregē colligant. whairby w [...] may pl [...]nie vndrstand y t quhé an Minister of God dois fail, al the rest hes power to depose him,& to prouyde for that flock. This far faithfully of Cyprians letter, quhairin if thair be ani [...] iurisdiction, rather it is Cyprian that vsurps the saming, cōmanding and inioyning to Stephanus to wryte, then Stepha. quha did obey. Moreouer it was not Cyprian nor Stephanus quha did depose Martienus: bot the vther Byschops i [...] th [...] prouence, at thair requeist. Bot all is good aneugh that may [...] serue for ȝour Papis power.
AD. And also by the Fathers of she [...] of Carthage and Mi [...]eria [...].
AN. In this confusd prositioun thou hes neuer ȝit broght [...] richt autoritie for the confirmation yairof. & in this thou lyes impudentlie. for the councell of Carthage resisted oppinl [...]e to the Paps leigats, [...] C [...]l. 4. b [...]ik 7 [...]quha affirmit that supreme iurisdictioun was grantit to the Pape of Rome by the Synod of Nic [...]. And producit th [...] acts thaiaof▪ quhilks war feinȝeit. the coucell resisted thair [...]o, thinking that the Pape of Rome suld not haue credennce in his a win cause, quhairos they sent to Constantinopil and to vther Touns of Graecia, that they micht [...]cquere mair veritabil examples of sic priuilegis. In the quhilkes n [...] vther thing [Page] was fund, bot that quhilk did abrogat the hail autority of th [...] Romaine by shop, quhairby he was deprehendit to haue lyi [...] impudentlie, in supposing the councel of Sardice, for the concel of Nice. Moreouer by that saming councell thay w [...]r excommunicat that appellit to the pape of Rome. For in th [...] sixt canon of that samin councel is expreslie commandit: tha [...] the Bxshop of Alexandria sal haue the reul ouer certen kirks [...]nd the Byshop of Rome ouer certen, & the Byshop of Antiochia lykwayis ouer certen. And that it be not laufull [...]o [...] any one of them to inuaide anothers iurisdictioun: and if any an be not conté tit with his a win, craue dominion ouer vther [...] he aucht of richt to be callit a bre [...]kar of the customes,& also of the haly canons. GREGORIE wil haue him repute to b [...] the verry Antichrist, quha styles him self supreme pasteur of pasteurs,& vniuersal Byshop. saying▪ I speak it with baldne [...], whosoeuer caleth him self the vniuersal Byshop, [...]reg. [...] his 4 [...] & 10. [...]. or desiris so to be called, he is in his pryde the forerunner of Antichrist: because in his pryde he setleth him self aboue vthers. And in ane vther epistle thus Way is wryting to Eulogius. Behold euin the tytle of ȝour letter. ȝe haue [...]ritin the proud poesy, naming me the vniuarfall Pape, Greg. l [...] his 7 [...] & 10 [...]. notwithstanding I haue forbiddin it. I beseik ȝour halynes to do so na mair, for what soeuer is geuin to anie abone reasoun, the same is takin from ȝour selfes.
❧ THE IX. PRO. Na man ought to be [...] or haldin an rrew Minister or pasteur in Christs Kirke [...] [...]e ra [...]. ue the Sacrament of ordour'he impositioun of hands.
❧ I confes indeid that thay▪ ar not to be estemit laufull Ministers in an w [...]ill reformit kirk, quha ar not ordinarly callit. ordinare vocatioun consisteth first in the inuart working of the halie spreit in the hart of him, quha is to receaue that burdene, quhairby he may be assurit of an vpricht zealous meaning, and that also God hath indewit him [...]ith sum gifts for the discharge of the [...]ffice quhairinto he is appoyntir. Secoundlie besydes the motioun of Gods Spreit, the Kirk of God ought to take tryall baith of his man [...]ris and qualyties. [Page] sufficient to discharge a good conscience, to the edificatioun of the flock. quhilks being found, we deny not, bot the impositioun of hands with solemne prayers was ane ceremonie▪ vsit in ordaning of pasteurs, baith since Christs dayis, and long off befoir, and ȝit be vs is maist diligently obseruit. Sua that na pairt of this proposion being weil vnderstand, maks any thing against vs, except only the nam [...] of Sacrament quhilk improperly is heir vsit, without warrand of Godis worde or anie guid reasoun.
AD. Of this we euidently may infer that Ca [...]uin and Be [...], with Tailȝeours & Skinners and vther mechanics quha hes intrudit them self [...] in the office of Ministrie neuer rasauid sic ordours ar not to behaldin laufull Pasteurs bot as theauis and reuars quha h [...] [...] in amangs Christs flock not by the dur bot by the window.
AN. Sententias loquitur carnifex And a fearfull sentence without all reasoun pronuncit. And althoght condemnit appostat they fere not the force of it, ȝit they man appele to ane mair indifferent ludge. Quhairfoir suld they be reput as theauis and halden as reuars? Is it because thair heads are not shauin? Is it because they are not ordanit be the vsurpit papisticall power. If sa be, nather ware the Apostles Euangelistis &c. to be reputit lauful becaus they war not ordaned by the hie Preasts quha had the ordinar ecclesiastical power. ȝea by the like reasons and saming arguments, they did exagitat the ministerie of S. Iohn the Baptist togither with Christs doctrine, saying who giue the this autority. Bot as to Caluin & Beza & vther Godly learnit men, quhome ȝe comprehend vnder the name of Tailȝours and Skinners, thay had a laufull & ordinar calling in the flocke vnto the quhilk thay preachit. As at mair lenth may be declarit, and is writtin be many vthers.
❧ THE X, PROPO. The intercessioun and imun [...]tioun of the Saincts and Angeli derogate nothing nor is not contrario [...]s to Christs mediatioun.
I p [...]s the contradictioun in the propositioun, with the friuol distinctioun of mediatioun broght in by ȝow for profe of the saming, to cut of many words quhilk I maist neadis haue vsit, [Page] gif I wald accurratlie examine all the points thairof. for I am certen thou canst not tell quhat thou meanes by the distinctioun of mediatioun, thy purpose being mair to conuince the trueth, and obscure the veritie: then anie wayes to establische the saming. For Christe is our Mediatour in baith the natures, that is, as he is God and man in one persoun. and not acording to his humane nature only, as S. Ihon 14.16. witnesseth. I am the waye, the treuth, and the lyfe. No man cummeth to the Father bot by me. And quhatsoener ȝe aske the Father in my name 'he will giue it ȝou.
AD, we reid in the [...] of Zach. that the Angel prayit vnto the Lord desyring him to haue pitis on lerusalena & the Touns of iudah and lykewise in the 12. chap. of Tobias.
AN. Vnto former obiectioun I answer, that sclendrouslie thou hes red that place, for vnder the name of Iuda & Ierusalem is vnderstand the Kirk of Christ, for the quhilk christ the Angel of Angels makis intercessioun. Vnto the Secound I say, that the buik of Tobias is not sufficient to proue any head of doctreine. Thridlie althoght the Angell pray for vs, ȝi [...] it followis not be na guid Logik: that we sould pray vn to the Angell.
AD. And be S. Ioh. 6. Reuels. saying the reik of the incense of the eraisons of the Sancts ascendit out of the hands of the Angel kefoir the Lord.
AN. Howe so euer thou wreast this place, it hes the lyke Ergo with the former.
AD Quhau the pepil of Israel war plagued for thair rebellioun God wald not resaue thair prayers bot said let Moyses pray for thie pepill and I will heare him.
AN. Treuth it is that moyses was thair principall pasteur and Propheit, familiar with God, be quhais voyce God spake vnto his people▪ Bot it followis not that Moyses suld bene inuocat or worshipped, and to be haldin as thair refuge, or that he was intercessour, bot only Minister. Iob. 4 [...] Iob. 5.
AD. [...]ykewayis God luikit to the pruitencle of Iob quhan he pray it for his freind. and in an vther place it is said call if thair be anie that will answer the, and [...] to sum of the Sancts.
AN. Na questioun is [...]ot an faithfull man may pray for another, bot not be called his intercessour.
ADVERSAR. Gene. 4 [...]. Alsomen in earth praying the an for the vther, as the Corinths did for S. Paul, derogat [...] to Christs mediatioun, as lykwayis testifies lak [...]b [...] benedie. [...].
[Page]AN. I ans [...]er vnto the former place [...]ith S. August. tha [...] Christien men in thair prayers do pray [...]e for another, and so we ar commandit: bot he for whome no man dois pray, bot he for all men, Aug. lib. [...]. cap. 8, [...]. is onlie our Mediatour. To the secound lyke. way is I answer, that the children of Ioseph sould not pray to Abraham Is [...]ak and lakob, for the blissing in this maner is pronuncit. God before quhome my fathers Abraham & lsak did walke, God quhilk fed me al my lyfe long vnto this day. And the Angel quhilk hes delyuerit me from all euill, blisse the bairnes and let the names of my forfathers Abram end Isak be namit in them. quhairby Ephraim and Man [...]sseh Iosephs sonnes and lakobs nepheus soul [...] be accountit in the familie of Iakob, and rekned to be the sonnes of Isr [...]ell, and to reteine ether of th [...]me equall portioun with the rest of the sonnes of lakob, as gif he had begottin thame him selfe. I his expositioun agreeth prope [...]ly with that pla [...] quhilk is conteanit in the 4 cha. of Isai, psophecie, quhain the wemen requyrit that the mens names micht be [...]e callit vpon them, that i [...], according to the Hebrew phrase ya [...] thay micht. be called the W [...]ffes of an man, & n [...]mit efter thair Husbáds. So if this phrase in this place imports na misterie, nather suld the former. now seing it w [...]r tedious to dilate lang ans [...]ers vpon friuol reasons, we minde to contract ȝour arguments i [...] schortar fo [...]me. Of the quhilks tua ar brocht furth out of the reuela of S. Iohne the 1. and 6, ch. thairof Vnto the quhilk I answer, that y e sancts are said to desire God to seuenge thair blood: P [...]. 2 [...]p [...] [...]p. euen as the blood of Abell, cryit for vengence [...]ó the earth. And so dois the murther of PARIS cry for the lyke r [...]waird, with the death of many vthair Saincts of God.
AD. S. Peter said to his flock that he sul not only admonis [...]h, the sa l [...]ng, as he [...] on lyf to i [...]mbr [...]c [...] [...]l Godlin [...]s and ve [...]te w. Bot als [...] wald labo [...] that aft [...] his d [...]th thay sold ha [...] t [...] memory of th [...] thin [...] quhilk he could not do being dea [...] bot only by hi [...] i [...]tercessio [...] for thame.
AN. Peruershe sophist. for that quhilk he he [...] promisit tu [...] maner of wai [...]s he hes performit. First be his Epistles, quhilk [...] his death dois remaine, be the quhilk is flock wa [...] pu [...]i [...] [Page] rem [...]mbrance and the posteritie after them in memor [...]e, that he followit not dissaitfull fabils, when he openit vnto th [...]me th [...] cumming of our Lord. Secoundlie that he hes tane paine and trauel in prouyding to his flock faithful M [...]nisters in th [...] Kirk after [...]is death, y • his memorie & the remembr [...]ce of th [...] [...]hings quhilk he teachit vnto thé, micht be refreschit in thair harts. For vther way is if Peter w [...]r leuand or Paul, I dou [...] not [...]ot they wald ryfe thair claithis in geuin them y • worshiping & assigning vnto thame that office quhilk is proper vnto our Saluiour, A [...], 14 [...] as BARNABAS did with S. PAVL in th [...] Toun of Lystre.
AD As▪ [...] cap. 8 God has [...] same with miracle [...]
AN. Put on thy spectakils. For by miracles onlie without the testimonie of the scripteur, th [...] inuocatioun of Sancts can not be ra [...]auit. nather dois S. Aug. words [...]ny wayis confirm [...] the saming. For he [...]ryt [...]s so, I [...]la de gradu descendit [...]t ad fanc [...]i martyris memoriam orare perrex [...]rat▪ It is not faid be S August [...]n, or abat sancti martyris memoriam. Na mair nor he [...]ald say or [...]bat Templum, quhilk war ver [...] improperly spokin. I [...]ppin thy errour th [...]n, thou ignorantlie refers the word dr [...]re to ad martyris memorlam, quhik onelye sould be per [...]exerat.
AD. This also [...] [...]mit be, Ba [...]l, h [...]. de 40. Ma [...]. S lhere. con vigi. Ba [...]l, Hierata, Origines, Chrisost [...]me, Nazi [...]n with Cipria [...].
AN. To al thir sorgit autorit [...]es I answer with Hierom yat [...]uhil [...] of th [...] scripteur h [...]s na autori [...] [...] the ly [...]e facility it may be rei [...]ctit as it is adducit. quhilk Aug. plainly dois cō firme wryting to Mier. in 48. epist. heare not this, Donatus [...]aith, Rogatus saith, Vincens [...]s saith, Ambros [...] saith, Au. saith Bot hearken and giue eare vnto this the Lorde saith, For instead of all thairs lear [...]ed fathers, or fath [...]r abone the al, cums vnto my minde the scripteur of Godg, uhairin is an exclusue seutence pronuncit, na man cummeth to the Father but by me. Lib, 2. [...] 2 [...]. co [...]. cr [...]fo [...] To it I appele from all maner of wrytaris that thinkes vther vai [...] ▪ For the docteurs of the Kirk, as mest are oft deceaued. [Page] Althocht thair autorities thou hes rather brocht for ostentatioun, then substanciallie to proue ȝour purposse, fo [...] na man of sound iudgement will thinke that Bas [...]l & Nazianzen wald call vpon the sancts, Oirge li [...]. con [...]. se [...]. althoght they playi [...] sumquhat with gritter libertie, then ether b [...]came the gr [...]uitie of th [...] persons, or sinceritie of Christian [...] Religioun. Origines buik is falslie supposit in his name, for he dois planelie deny thi [...] consequence, NOTE the blissit in the Heauins pray [...]. for vs, thairfore th [...]y suld be inu [...]cat. Cyprians buik de secta & magis is adieterous, & Chrisost messe is attributed wr [...]ngfully vnto him for amang [...] the Sanct their mentioned, Chrisosto. is countit him selfe quha expreslie in all his warks reiects the inuocatiō of sancts. As in his 12 homelie vpon the woman of CANAN, tel me O Woman, since thou art a wicked and sinfull woman, HO [...] durst thou go into God? I knaw, saith scho, quhat I do. Behold the wisdome of the woman, she praieth not to IAMES she e [...]tre [...]teth not IOHN, she goeth not or PETE [...], she did not get her self to the companie of the Apostles: she soght for na intecessour: NOTE bot for al thais things she toke r [...]pentance for hir companioun, quhilk did fulfill the roume & place of an Aduocat, so she did go to the hych [...] fountaine. Let this autority suffice to confute thy errour, and for an strenthie Bul [...]ark [...] and For [...]r [...]sse to subuert the inuocatioun of Sancts.
❧ THE XI. PROPO. It is [...]ot against the command of God to mak the Imagi [...] of our Saluiour Christ and of his Apostles.
As the inuocatioun of Sanctes is to be banischit out of th [...] hea [...]t sa Imagis quhais vse tending to deuotioun [...]r to be abolischit from the eyes of men the Tempil. 9 Augu. in [...] 11 [...] [...]. for as [...]il sai [...] Aug. althog [...]t they be sensles, ȝit for th [...]t the verie proportioun of men set a loft and in honorable hicht after they one beginneth to be adored and honored of th [...] multitude breadeth and ingendreth in euerie man that most [...]le affectioun [Page] of errour that althoght thair he sind na naturall mouing or ta kone of life, ȝit h [...] thinketh sum God or Godly thing is with in it, and so being dece [...]ued, partlie by the form [...] that h [...] seth and partlie by the example & deuotion of the p [...]piil quhome they sie obedient to the saming he thinketh that the Images being so lyke lyniug bodeis, NOTE can not be without sum lyuinge thing vnderneth them.
AD This conclusion is pr [...]i [...] because [...] place of the scripture can be produci [...] wh [...] [...] i [...] forbiddi [...].
First I answer be the contrarie seing i [...] is na way commandit by the scripteur of God: it can not be na wayis laufully vsit.
AD. And gif it had b [...]e forbiddin i [...] th [...] 2 [...]. [...]p. of [...]xodus wit [...]ut al di [...]i [...]c [...]io [...] [...]s the Ministers falslie allegis he had bene c [...]trarious vnto him self because in the 25. [...]h [...]p, he commands to mak the Image of the Ch [...]r [...]bims.
AN. I answer vnto this quhilk is mair an calumnie the [...] obiectioun. That they condemne not all Images without distinctioun. for they kn [...]w that Christe him selfe did not condemne Caesars Image in the money. For painting & grauing [...]r things indifferent nather guid nor euil, in sa far, that quhen th [...]ir vse teuds not to deuoa [...]oun bot to decoratioun and ornament. Bot euin sua, that God can not be repr [...]sentit be na Image. As to the Cherubims they war set vp to couer the Arke or the Mercie seat [...], to the end that the pepill micht vnderstand that the nature & Maiestie of God quhome they worshipped was altogether hid and couered from them, and na wayis culd be sene, Num. [...]1. nor be any visible thing represented▪ As for the brasin Sepent it was set vp for the present necessitie, as [...] sacrament only for a tyme to indure, as by the fact of Ezechias was manifest. 4. reg 18. Bot thir examples can na wayis serue for your Images, vnles thou find me a sure warrand out of Gods worde, commanding them, as we lie of the Cherubims and Serpent.
AD It is provin also by Christs a win ex [...]mpill quh [...] as te [...]i [...]es Eusebius in hi [...] 7. b [...]ik of his ecclesia [...] history se [...]t hi [...] a win Im [...]ge vnto the King Ab [...]ga [...].
AN. Read quha will Eusebius 7. buik, they [...]all d [...]prehend thee to haue falslie lyit.
AD Also i [...] the premiti [...]e Ki [...]k [...]emorrhi [...]e quh [...] w [...]s ha [...]lit by Christ did [...] a [...] [Page] image [...]o him quhilk as Christian did rep [...]if as contrair the command of God.
AN It appeareth [...] how ȝour cause itendeth, quhen it is confirmit by sic sutill probations. That image was onlye historicall maid for an declaratioun and monument of the hail [...]ng of the woman by Christ. And that it sould not be thought that Iesus Christe or his Aposti [...]es did commande the same Eusebius subiounds. It is na meruell that the heathens receauing sic benefites of our Saluiour did these things, for, we haue sene the Image of Peter, of Paul, & of Christ drawin in coleurs & preserued. And it may weill be thoght that men in old [...] tymes being not ȝit remoued from thair superstitioun vsit after this sort to worship thame by an eathnisch custom [...] as thair sauiour [...], [...] Au. [...]ib [...]. de cu [...] [...] &c.
AD. S. August. declaris it was the cu [...]om [...] in his dayis to haue the Images of Pe [...] and Paul with Christ.
AN Contrarie waies it is plaine that he alluterly reiects them as it is euident in his 49. epist. & in his Catolog heresi, 7 amangs the rest of the [...]nrpocratians errours, he notis a certen woman namit. Marcellina quha being of that saming sect, [...]orshipped the Image of Iesus and Paul, Homeir and Pythagoras In the place be ȝo [...] cytit, he approuis [...]a Imagis speciallye maid for Religiouns saik, Bot declares be quhat occasion the enemies of Christ feinȝeit certen buiks in his name, written to Peter and Paul of magik and witchcraft, because sayeth he they saw in si [...]drie places peter & paul paintit vpon the walis with Christ. nather dois heir August. approue sic paintrie, na [...]her deny we for beautie and knaweledge picteurs maye be maid.
AD. And the v [...]iuersalt traditioun of all [...]gi [...] [...] in the Kirk to have the signe of the crosse as Tert [...]lian witnesseth [...] c [...]r [...]s militis.
AN Bot sic an signe was not as now is vfit, in his tyme the Christians held vp thair hands in the air, and by thair fingers transuersly puttin, formit a figure of the crosse, quhairby they declared thair professioun that they beleuit in our Saluiour crucefyit. and ȝit thair is a grit difference of the signe of the Crosse that incontinent eua [...]ishis a way, and a material Image substancially existin. The signe is ancient, bot the figure laite. [Page] By the quhilk Christe is abominablie fixit to ane galow tri [...], quhilk ȝe honour with reuerence, and worschipps with prostratioun of ȝour bodies, as it is euident by the words of ȝour Masse buik. O crux aue spes v [...]ica, Blissed be thou O cro [...] our only esperance. Auge piis iustitiam reis (que) dona veniam. Incresse iustice to the Godly, & sch [...]w mercy to the culpabil. Heirby ȝour impietie mair nor beastly is discouered: for Hab. in his 2. cha. pronuncis this sentence, malediction aboue him that sayis to tree, stok, or stane, a walke and teache me, and ȝ [...] esteme them as books of the Laics & commoun pepill, be th [...] quhilks they are callit to remembrance to serue Christ. Bot an vnhappie memorie is that quhilk stands in nead of a sightfull conceat, and miserabill is that man quhilk na vtherway is can haue the presence of Christ with him vnles he haue his Image paintit on the wall, NOT [...] or express it in sum vther mater, for sic a memorie that is nourisched by Images procedeth not of ha [...]ty loue: bot of necessitie of eye sight.
AD. Of this we [...] the fraudfull interpritatiouns of the command of God he the Ministers, and how they follow the futsteps of Iulianus apostaza in destroying the images of Christ, as the Turks causes the renega [...] Christians to spit vpon the crucifix quhilk the trew Christians he [...] for an ensig [...]e and baner.
AN. Quhen sall we haue an end of thy calumnies? I think neuer, bot I leaue them vnto thy self; and the vnto thy awin wickednes. Quhat Iulianus the apos [...]t hes done against the Christians, quhat the Turks lykewayis we knawe, all that to haue procedit of plaine malice against Christ. Bot that quhilk our Ministeres hes done in destroying the Imagis placit for Gods in ȝour kirks, that I say hes follow it from a good zeall to praise God, for the quhilk they haue sufficient assuraunce by the command of God and example lykewayis of the ancient fathers. For EPIPHANIVS wrytis to Iohn Patriark of Ierusalem in the 2. tome of Hierome. In that I hard certaine did grudg aganist me, for that when we went together to the holy place, quhilk is caled Bethel, to mak a gathering thair w t me according to the maner of the Kirk; and come to a village caled ANABLATHA, & as I passed I sawe a candil burning, & [Page] asked quhat place it was, and quhen I learned it was an Kirk and h [...]d entred into it to mak my prayers, I founde thair ane vaile hinging at the entrie of the Kirk paynted hauing the Image as it war of Christ or of sum Sanct, NOTE for quhose picteur it was in deid I do not remember, thairfoir quhan I sawe the Image to hing in the Kirk of Christ, contrarie to the cōmandiment of the scripteurs, I rent it in sondre, and gaue counsell to the kepars of the Kirk to burie sum poore bodie in it. I bes [...]ik ȝo [...] charge the preists of that place, that they cōmand that sic painted claiths as be contrary vnto our Religioun, b [...] no more hanged vp into the Kirk of Christ, It behouis ȝour reuerence to haue cair heirof, this is snperstitioun vnmeit for the Kirk of Christ, and dangerous for the pepole, and thairfore oght to be remoued.
❧ THE XII. PRO. [...]It is consonant to Gods word to pray for the dead. 12
❧ If that be consonant vnto Gods word or conuenient vnto the Scripteur, quhilk ather from ignorance of the benefites of Christ hes followit, or fra vnbeleef or incredulitie hes procedit: or fra an humane affectioun hes cumit halelie disteulit hauing but the name of charitie, the prayers for the deade ar then to be halden agreable to Gods word. Bot seing in the blood of Christ our sinnes ar waschin away. Be it far from vs, that so ignorant of this benefeit we suld be [...]r s [...] increduteuis in esteming that the prayers of men may mair awaill then the mereits of Christ, or that we sould think God to be so inhumane that he wald haue payment estet the obligatioun is rent I mene, that he hes forgeuin vs in Christ our debt & not the punischemen thairof, quhilk rather the Papeists teaches sould be remouit be [...]praye [...]s of men, ringing of Bellis, offring of siluer, and to be extenuat through passing vnto pilgramagis.
AD. This is prouin by the [...]. buik of the Macah. the [...]. chap, quh [...]irin it is said yet it is an haly and hailsome prayer to pray for the deid that they may be [...] from thair sinnes,
[Page]AN. Bot quhat autoritie suld be geuin to that buik, it is euident by the hinmest verse of the saming, qnhairin the autor crauis pardoun quhair he failleth, nath [...]r is the haly spreit to be aseryuit vnto it, NOT [...] quhilk the authour ascryuis vnto his awin diligence, for in it thair are many contrarieties. First as concerning the death of Antiochus. Seing in the 1. buik, & 6. cha It is writtin that he dyit of a fewer. In the 2. & 1. ch. it is said that he was slaine in spuilȝeing the Kirk of Nanea. & in the 9 chap. of that same buik, it is writtin he was strukkin miraculouslie be the hand of God in the montains. Bot in the 1. buk it is said he dyit in Babylon. the ȝeir of his death in the 1. buk & 6. chap. after the grecian calculatioun is. 149. In the 2. & 1. chap. 148. Lykewayis Lysias gouernour of Eupators armie maid peace with Iudas Machabeus, vnto quhome Antiochus Eupator (sone to antiochus the tyran aboue specifiit.) wrytes concerning that mater. the ȝeirs of the dait of the letters are 148, ather then most Eupator be haldin King before his fathers death, quhilk is maist fals, as in the 9. chap. it may apear or els Antiochus dyit not the 149, Aug. lib. 18. [...].3 [...] de ciuit. dei ȝeir of the Grecians, quhilk is contrair vnto the 6. chap. of the 1. buik.
AD. Albeit perchance the books of the Mach. war not [...]as [...]uit in the Synagog of the Iewes a [...] canons ȝit S, Aug witnesseth that the Kirk of God [...]asauit them as cano [...]i [...].
AN, I deny not Hammiltoun that in them ar not thingis conteined profitabill for edificatioun, Bot I affyrme that they war not writtin, that our faith suld be established vpon them on that thay may serue for confirmatioun of doctreine, or to haue flow it from the haly spreit. For the Spreit of God neuer vsis in the scripteur to be suppliant vnto men, and for his imperfectioun to beg pardoun at thair hand., for nathing ought to be impute to the Halie Gaist, quhilk becommeth not the grit Maiestie of God. And althoght that S. Augu. approueth [...]hem ȝit he dois not also laitlie, bot rather with twa prouisio [...] admits them. First if that thay be soberlie red, nixt warlie hard. Bot sa conditionarlie he pronunces not of the rest of the canonicall scripteurs. Ȝea GREGORI [...] him selfe in the [Page] 19. booke, vpon the 17, chap. of Iob, testifies that thay war [...] not canonicall.
AD. S Paul also affirmes this, that quhair he sayis they that buy de vpon Christ trayle hay or stu [...]bill salb [...] sa [...]it hot as by the fyre quhilk place can not be vnder [...]tande of the fyre of hell because fra it thair is na redemptioun.
AN. A far soght, obscure, and confusd probatioun, and nathing pertinent to the purpose. For rather he confirmes purgatorie, that is ignotum per ignotious: then directlie prouis the prayers for the dead. Neuertheles I sall indeuour my selfe to answer vnto that quhilk inderectlie is obiectit. Be the fyre is vnderstand the tryall of the halie Gaist, be the Stubil & Hay courious and vnprofitabill doctreine, quhilk be the fyre, that is, be the halie Spreit salbe tryit, be the quhilks mens inuentions and traditions with vnprofitabill doctreine not groundit vpon the word of God salbe consumed. Bot seing vpon this place be falslie builds Purgatorie, I am glad that it is bigged vpon hay and stubbil, that in our age now the fyre of God being kindlit, it is all burnt away,
AD. And [...]ortulia [...] counts the prayers for the deap amangs the tra [...]latio [...] obser [...] in the Kirk in his age.
AN. If this autoritie of Tertulian be thee alledged be tre [...] thou dois maliciouslie, falslie, and wickedlie, wraist the Scripteur of God in confirmation of that quhilk is not writtin, bot as an vncerten traditioun rasauit. Vnto S. Aug. thou dois ar [...] grit iniurie, that wald hane him establish thy errour, althoght he prayit for his Mother MONICA. quhairin he erred by an [...] luising affectioun and humane compassioun towards hir. for he him self in his euch. ad laurent. 67. chap. in an worde he slokkins purgatorie and condems the prayers for the deade. saying, Qui hoc credunt sunt et catholici qui humana quad [...] beneuolentia mihi falli videntur, tha quha beleuis Purgatory for to be, ar not only Herityks hou also catholyks, qu [...]a be an humaine beneuolence appeirs vnto me, to be deceauit, and after he subioynes, [...] post enim hanc vitam, nullus est penitentius locus. Efter our Sauls be desoluit from our bodyes, thair is na place of repentance. This also is confirmit by [...]erom saying [...]e kna [...]e that in this world we can not be helpit an of another [Page] ather with prayars or with counsalls b [...]t efter we be once befoir the iudgement sait of Christ, nather Io [...] DANIEL nor NOACH, be abil to pray for any bodie, but euerie man fall beir his awin burden. I might vse many vther autorities for the confirmatioun of [...]his mater, but thir I thinke are sufficient.
❧ THE XIII. PROPOSITIOVN. In the Sacrament of the Altar vnder the forme of bread and wine the bodie and blood of Christ is reallie and substancially co [...]teaned.
AD. This conclusioun is confirmit [...]e thrie Euangelists, quha testifies that Christ i [...] his latter supper said [...]ak eat this is my bodie quhilk fall he geuin for ȝow, the quhilk words are so cleir and euident that no [...]n can doubt vnles he wald giue mair credence vnto his awin sense and iudgement nor to Christs infallabill words.
AN. I answer with S [...] Hierome that the Euangell standeth not in the words of the scripteur but in the meaning, I [...]r. vpon 1. Galla. for gif in sic wechtie maters, we wald pretex the simplicitie of words Christ then suld be ane Lambe, an Porte, an Way, the trewe Wine, and an husband man, Quhilk forme of speaking onlye is figuratyue.
AD. Iustinus the marty [...]e to Antonimis saith that euin as we beleiue Christ had fl [...]sch and blood so we oght uo beleue that breacnd wine quhilk he con [...]ecrat was changed in his fleshe end blood.
AN. I answer that thir words are misticallie and sacramentallie to be vnderstand, for in that secound apologie, he proueth against y e heretiks be y e sacramēt of the eucharist Christ for to haue had verry body and verry fleshe, and not phantastik as they did think, in this maner, if Christ had neuer tre [...]e flesh this Sacraments suld be false, seing they neuer culd represent nor signifie that thing quhilk was neuer extant. Bot I wald not thou assumed him for ane patroun of ȝour transubstantiatioun, quhen he teachis in that saming apologie the bread and wine efter consecratioun to be changed in our bodie and nurisch the saming, quhilk plainelie Ireneus aprouis saying by the bread and Cup quhilk ar the sacraments of the [...]odie and blood of Christ, ex quibusa [...]getur et consistir car [...]is nostraesubstantia, of the quhilk the substance of our flesh [Page] and of his precious blood ne [...]er institute be him nor obseruit in his kirk, les nor thou wild willingly close the eyes of thy cōscience against the treu [...]h. Bot I knaw thy stubbernes, that althogh good reasons may mak the acknawledge the veritie, ȝit thou rather will consent with ȝour superstitious mesmongars, nor say treuth with the veritie now. [...]. 14.
AD This conclusioun is prouin because Christ has callit himself a Priest for euer efter the ordour of Melchisadek: we reid in the book of Genesies that Melchisadek offred bread and wine thairfor Christ being presigurat be Melchisadek of necessitie man hau anelyke maner of sacrifice to w [...]ttrubl [...]die.
AN This confusd reasoun is saxtymes repeted be ȝow, bot fa oft to answer, it w [...]ld be countit superfluous, thairfoir I wil contract the sume of all in an forme that I may derectlie answer thair vnto. OBIECTIOVN The figure of Melchisadek behouit in veriritie to be accomplishe [...] in Christs preisthood. Bot Melchisadek offred to God the Father bread and Wyne. Thairfoir it behouit Christ not onlie to offer that, bot that the veritie of the figure might be performit in his body and blood also. I admit the propositioun, and denyis the assumptioun, because that in the Epistle to the Ebrewes many conferences and dyuers collations ar maid of Melchisadeks preisthod & of Christ quhairin na mention is maid of bread and Wine. ANS. To be short y e figure of Melchisadeks preisthood dois consist in tha things quhilks ar not comon with Arons preisthood; bot the offring of bread and wine, was dayly in the sacrifice of Aaron, thairfoir Christs preisthood rather suld be after the ordour of Arō nor Melchisadeks, if the offring of bread and Wine ware the principall things in Christs preisthood. NOTE Bot all this controuersy floweth from the ignorance of the Ebrew word, for in the 14 of Gene it is writin, that after Abraham returnit from the battel with his souldiers being werie, Melchisadek quha was King causit bread & wine be broght furth quhairby Abraham and his armie micht bene refreschit. The same King also being hie Priest blissit him the error of our aduersar consisteth in this word (broght furth) quhilk be sum is exponit obtulit, bot wrang and be vthers as be Iero. pro [...]ulit, and be [Page] vthers, educi fecit, causeth bread & wine to be brocht furh to refresche the stomaks of the wearie souldiers, quhilk he did lyberallie being King, and being hie Priest deuotelie he gaue him his benedictioun.
AD. Of this we collect that tha quha lawbours to abolich the sacrifice of Christs body and blood in the messe ar blasphemous against Christ and his eternall preisthood after the ordour of Melchisadek.
AN, I affirme bold [...]y that that quha imbraces sic horrible prophanatioun of Gods glorie, dois defile their soule with Idolatrie, and sa far as thay may, not only puts Christ to shame & approbre, bot also dois him crucesie. For inrespect if the sacrifice be iterat, Christ must be crucifyet, quhilk was bot on & singulair sacrifice. For S. Paul writing to the [...]brews 6 ch. witnesseth, that nane can be offrit except him that dieth.
❧ THE XV. PRO. [...]It is contrarius & repugnant to the custom of the primittu [...] Kirk to institut & cōmand any publict f [...]sting on Sonday & to ma [...] bankets on Fryday.
AD. This is prouin be Tertulian quhan he wrytis of the constitutioun of the Kirk, saying we hald it as a sacriledge to command any fasting on Sonday.
AN. Since by the scriptur y • art not able to confirme this, we are not constranit to obey mens inuentions, for Tertulian in that same place saith, it is altogether vnlaufull that vpon y • Sonday in worshipping God, to fal vpon our knees the contrair quhairof notwithstanding his autoritie, is rasauit be al christians, & thairfoir we may als easily reiect this superstitloun in fasting vpon the Fryday, Te [...] [...] psych. as not kneling vpon the Sonday, & ȝit he wryts vther wais in his buik contra PSYC. saying we mā hencfurth fast w tout cōpulsion, of fre will not be comandimēt of this new disceplin, acording as euery mā sal se time & place
AD. Epipha, sha [...]s that Aerius was condēnit as a herityk becaus he eats flesh on fryday
AN. I think that the probation of this, is, t [...]at thy asser [...]iō most suffice for autoritie, shaw me the place, & I will pr [...]pare the an ansuer, NOT [...] alwaies to satisfy y • present I ask of the as S [...]y. writing to Pomp. against the Epistle of Ste. frō whence haue we this tradition? [...]hither cumith it frō the autority of y e Lord or of the Euangel, or els fra the cōmandiments & Epistilles of the Apostles? yairfor if it ather be cōmandit in y e [...]uāgel or cō [...]enit in the acts or epi. of y • Apostils, let [...]s keip y e same tradi [...]iō
[Page]AD. [...] S, Aug, saith qu [...]osomes fa [...]eth vpon the [...]onday selanders the hall Kirk.
AN. Bot he after his awin maner modestli [...] tra [...]ellit to reduce all sic abusis to the fundatioun of the scripteur, that h [...] reprouis not si [...] superstitioun s [...]ueirly, he randers the ressoun in his 119. epist. to casulanu [...] in the quhilk he writs concerning thame that absteanit from flesh. Si de hac re meam sente t [...]m quaeras, eteni [...] huiusmodi multa propter nonul [...]arum v [...]l sanctarum vel turbulentarū personarum scandala, liberius improbare non audeo. that is, if on this mater my sentence zo requyre. surely si [...] many things for the sclander of halie and trubilsum persons, frelie I dar not improue, and efter hend in that samin epistil. Ego in Euangilicis & Apostolicis literis animo reuoluens video preceptum esse ieuinium quibus autem diebus oportet ieiunare, et quibus non opor [...]eat non inuenio esse definitum. I reuoluing in my mynd do fynd that in th [...] letters of the Euangell and Apostils fasting to be commandit. bot I fynd not determined and appointed by the command of the Lord or of y e Apostils, quhat day we must fast, & quhat day we must not fast.
AD. Of this conclusioun is manifest that the Ministers instituting thair publict fa [...] vp [...]d [...]onday & making thair banquet [...] vpon Fryday, ar [...]ot only selaudrous to the hail [...] k [...]rk bot also followis the firsteps of the Manicheans & vther condemned herityks.
AN. Thou hes begunne with blasphemyis as posessed with foolishnes, & endith with iniuries as bereft of wisdome. I appeale thee (blasphemous mouth) to thy awin conscience, if thou hes by reportevnderstuid of anie; or being present, had knauledge, that they maid bankets on any day: bot euer sharpely and vehementlie to haue improuit the same. To the matter. Di [...]. 61, qu [...]a san [...]onia. First I ansuer with Pape Stephanus & conforme to his command, quhairof the tennour is this. If syndrie of our predicess [...]urs haue done certen thinges, quhilk at that tyme might weil haue bene done without hurt, quhilks afterward are turned vnto errour and to superstitioun: NOTE let them be distroyit and abolished by the successeurs. Secoundly according to this re [...]l [...] confes that the Kirk in hatred of the Manicheās (quha wald bring in perpetual fasting vpon Sonday as a law,) [Page] and in detestatioun of vther heretyks, thoght it na [...] wayis expedient [...]o fast vpon Sonday fearing that thairby men sould haue f [...]llin in the Manicheans errour, Bot now that cause is remouit, and the errour als weill by our fathers as by vs presently condemned, & altogether the memorie thair of buryit. N [...]ther do we appoint our fasting vpon the Sounday as any [...] way agreable with them, bot as a maner indifferent of it self, and maist conuenient for the estair and necessitie of o [...]r time, NOTE seing na vther day the people can be sa commodiously gathered to ioyne th [...]ir prayers with fasting. Nather do we mak any l [...] of it, bot quhen sic extraordinar dangers appeares, as requyris extraordinar humiliatioun. And to concluid the mater in few termes & mair expreslie seing that fasting is apointit for prayer. and vpon the Sounday na man will denye bot we may pray: thair is na cause then quhy we may not vse that, and vpon the Sounday, to steare vs vp to mair feruent prayer. The Lord of his mercie geu [...] vs his grace, that baith vpon Soundaye and vther dayis, we may so fast & praye, that our flesche being huimlbit befoir God by vnfeinȝeit faith & earnest prayer, W [...] may obtene mercie at the hand of our God, through I [...]SVS CHRIST our Lord and Saluiour. To quhome be al honour Praise and glory warld w t out end AMEN.
❧ Imprentit at EDINBVRGH be ROBERT LE [...]PREVVICK, dwelling at the NETHERBOVV.